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Author Topic: Why aren’t people offering bareback sex banned from using Sex Worker Websites.  (Read 2665 times)

KirstyKiss

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I'll offer what I like when I like and others can do the same.
It's judgemental ballocks.

Sexybaker

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Well it should be illegal for sex workers to offer or engage in bareback as it is a public health risk. In other countries where the sex industry is legalized it is not allowed, there are strict rules regulating legal sex establishments etc

If it isn't safe it isn't allowed and the whole 'my body my rules' bollocks is not tolerated.

amy

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Well it should be illegal for sex workers to offer or engage in bareback as it is a public health risk. In other countries where the sex industry is legalized it is not allowed, there are strict rules regulating legal sex establishments etc

If it isn't safe it isn't allowed and the whole 'my body my rules' bollocks is not tolerated.

Well, aren't you a treat? If I no longer retain control over what I do with my body, who do you suggest gets to decide?

I don't know which country you're in, but you must be staggeringly naive if you think that no unprotected services ever happen in these circumstances, and even more so if you can't see that making individual services illegal just holds the door open for a black market to develop and flourish where sex workers can be exploited far more easily.

Plus, what other 'unsafe' activities would be on your hit list? Smoking, drinking alcohol, skiing, riding motorcycles - the former two are certainly far more of a 'public health risk' than a handful of people having unprotected sex for money? Or are you happy for adults to make their own choices in everything else bar shagging? Paid shagging that is, unless you plan to outlaw casual sex without a condom altogether - good luck with that.

Or as Kay has said, you could just concentrate on protecting yourself and direct your energies into something a bit more constructive than judging others and their choices.

As always, 'I would...' is fine here on SAAFE. 'You should...' is not, and we'll have no more of it.

I won't say it again.

MsRedhead

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Well it should be illegal for sex workers to offer or engage in bareback as it is a public health risk. In other countries where the sex industry is legalized it is not allowed, there are strict rules regulating legal sex establishments etc

If it isn't safe it isn't allowed and the whole 'my body my rules' bollocks is not tolerated.

and that's why legalisation is rubbish and most sex workers want decriminalisation instead (and yes, I know NZ has condom laws, but imo it shouldn't). More criminalisation isn't going to help anyone.

Any sex worker who only offers protected services could also be going out shagging civvies without protection at the weekend. Mind your own business and stop worrying about others.

CelesteManchester

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My. This escalated quickly.

I can’t control what others do, only myself. Well, I guess that’s not necessarily true; I CAN control if the client uses a condom or not, & by god & by damn HE WILL😡.

Just worry about your own self.
An American on a British site, still learning the slang😉

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I doubt there even from South America just saying that plus i doubt they all offer bareback probably just say that thinking it will bring in more work.

But even if they do offer it or any other nationalities or English women it is not really our business to out them or even judge them really. So many seem to really go into one over sex workers offering bareback but many are offering OWO and CIM which carry a lot of risks too but there busy judging barebackers. I really don't get it.  If your taking risks unprotected whether it's vaginal sex or oral both carry risks.

Just being a sex worker is a big risk anyway.


Kay

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So many seem to really go into one over sex workers offering bareback but many are offering OWO and CIM which carry a lot of risks too but there busy judging barebackers. I really don't get it.  If your taking risks unprotected whether it's vaginal sex or oral both carry risks.

Yep, two SPs that I've heard of over the years were spreading gonorrhoea orally, and also, at my local GUM clinic they don't give you a throat swab even if you ask for one.
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TantricTease

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I doubt there even from South America just saying that plus i doubt they all offer bareback probably just say that thinking it will bring in more work.

But even if they do offer it or any other nationalities or English women it is not really our business to out them or even judge them really. So many seem to really go into one over sex workers offering bareback but many are offering OWO and CIM which carry a lot of risks too but there busy judging barebackers. I really don't get it.  If your taking risks unprotected whether it's vaginal sex or oral both carry risks.

Just being a sex worker is a big risk anyway.


For me then it’s a problem in a parlour when a girl does it but when she is an indie then I see it differently and if you worked in a parlour then I’m pretty certain you wouldn’t like it if you yourself had covered sex, every sp in a parlour dreads the BB girls!

I can see why some do it, for the extra cash but I value my health above money and so I guess sometimes I expect everyone to see it the same as me.

It’s also more risky having unprotected sex compared to unprotected oral, it’s why oral without is far more common that BB.

Edinlass06

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Yep, two SPs that I've heard of over the years were spreading gonorrhoea orally, and also, at my local GUM clinic they don't give you a throat swab even if you ask for one.

I mean, I literally went public (as did another girl) saying I had it. If someone didn't stand up and say it, how many other people would have been infected? Your post makes it seem like it was deliberate!

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What services a SW provides should be entirely their own choice, not the "sex police", pimps or punters.

Emmaaa

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You get various personalities in society. I think it is the escorts business what they do in their lives.

I offer protected services and it doesn't mean I should hate on others. I would rather put spare time into manifesting desire in my personal life.

Kay

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I mean, I literally went public (as did another girl) saying I had it. If someone didn't stand up and say it, how many other people would have been infected? Your post makes it seem like it was deliberate!

Not at all - I was just pointing out that OWO spreads STIs, re. others judging those who do bareback.
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English Green

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Not at all - I was just pointing out that OWO spreads STIs, re. others judging those who do bareback.

I was told by a Gum nurse once that OWO in sex workers seem to spread more STI's then the odd small percentage probably doing bareback vaginal sex with clients. Makes sense though as a lot of sex workers do OWO. This is why i won't judge sex workers who offer bareback and could spread infections because anyone offering unprotected services can spread infections and it mostly will come from OWO as so many offer it.

Don't get me wrong clients who try to get bareback with me or ask for it i don't like it one bit as i don't offer it and i will make a note of them but i just honestly do not get the views that OWO is suddenly safe and do not pass on infections and bareback is the only one that does.

I think some might need to do a bit more research into how OWO CIM spreads infections too and from what i was told by a Gum Clinic a lot more in sex workers then probably the smaller amount that offer bareback.

Obviously Irish Trans never said if she offers everything protected but if she is offering OWO then the hypocrisy is shocking.

English Green

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For me then it’s a problem in a parlour when a girl does it but when she is an indie then I see it differently and if you worked in a parlour then I’m pretty certain you wouldn’t like it if you yourself had covered sex, every sp in a parlour dreads the BB girls!

I can see why some do it, for the extra cash but I value my health above money and so I guess sometimes I expect everyone to see it the same as me.

It’s also more risky having unprotected sex compared to unprotected oral, it’s why oral without is far more common that BB.

You say more risky having unprotected sex but StI's are caught more from OWO in sex workers then the ones just doing bareback. Ideal world yes it would be nice if everybody used a condom to not pass on infections but that is not how it is now. I am not saying bareback in sex workers is a good thing obviously if asked i would say don't risk offering it but those providing OWO are also responsible for spreading STI's. If someone catches Gonnoreah from offering OWO to clients and passes it on and another sex worker catches Gonnoreah and passes it on from doing bareback it equals same result.

All this is is glass houses. I had a past acquaintance in sex work who used to offer every service going apart from unprotected vaginal sex and she said to me she had a woman in her local town who advertised doing bareback and she hated her and wanted rid of her so she told me she started a campaign to get rid by using male friends to do fake bookings and freak her out and then sent her profile round to neighbours to out her as sex worker and one doing bareback and this is coming from someone who has caught 2 STI's that she told me previously about and never knew so passed it on to how many more clients. But she thinks she is above the local barebacker. Anyway i told her she was a hypocrite and i don't like women who turn on other women to out them to neighbours because they think somehow they are special and different.

I can understand it a little more coming from sex workers who only offer everything safe and do not agree with barebackers but i find it really odd coming from sex workers who also contribute to STI risks. I know quite a few sex workers over the years that offer OWO and quite a few have caught Gonorreah, Syphilis, Hepatitis, Chlamydia some have even caught them 3 or 4 times But the ones offering vaginal intercourse unprotected are the ones always judged and attacked.

Edinlass06

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I was told by a Gum nurse once that OWO in sex workers seem to spread more STI's then the odd small percentage probably doing bareback vaginal sex with clients. Makes sense though as a lot of sex workers do OWO. This is why i won't judge sex workers who offer bareback and could spread infections because anyone offering unprotected services can spread infections and it mostly will come from OWO as so many offer it.



When I actually went in to my clinic (SW only) they actually said it was pretty rare to see someone catch it from OWO and it was likely to do with another health issue I had at the time. I wish they would take a stance on it where they would ALL AGREE.  :FF

The thing that actually irritates me more than anything in this situation are those who

1. offer it 'on the sly'
2. do not cross check clients.

Too many preachy preachy arguments.

We are all responsible for our OWN health. Alas I knew some people didn't care, which is why I went public when I picked something up.
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