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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: victoryrose on 12 April 2015, 08:39:28 pm
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Eh, the title of this thread isn't really what I mean as I actually have orgasmed in bookings multiple times (including with the client I'm talking about). Basically, I got some positive AW feedback from today's booking, but he mentioned in it that there's no "audible" feedback from me. Basically that I'm extremely quiet. It's true, I'm very anxious and can rarely even "let myself go" entirely when I'm with partners in my personal life, nevermind at work when I have to be on guard. Nevertheless, I am able to orgasm if the technique is right and when I do it's obvious. I just don't go in for all the moaning, I make some noises here and there and my breathing changes but that's about it.
I'm worried because he obviously felt it was a big enough deal to include it in the feedback, and I do remember one other occasion when a client seemed rather annoyed that I wasn't screaming with pleasure. I am rather introverted and demure, I believe this comes off as obvious on my profile and if not at least on the phone, so it's not as if I market myself as a porn-star like screamer.
I am really not into the idea of acting it out either, honestly that's just going to make things more awkward than it already was.
Anyway, am I the only one? Does anybody else not really make that much noise? Is this a complete dealbreaker? Will other clients now be put off? :-[
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My advice is to "dramatise" a little! Ok fake is what I mean, it keeps them happy in my experience x
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I am definitely quiet because my parents' house had very thin internal walls and I did not want to make it obvious what I was doing.
Just make a comment in your marketing that you don't fake and you hate fake noises... but when you do orgasm, they will notice.
And for the ones who don't, thank them.
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I like Daisy's view...
I'm also silent and don't cum with most clients.
I don't bother to 'act' or worry about it.
I'm not that attached to clients money
to do stuff I'm not comfy with.
One day this guy is worried about screaming, the next
he'll be fretting about squirting or size of labia lips! ;D
Client reviews sets punters up for endless
comparison and disappointment.
*I don't like detailed reviewers and think it's
disrespectful to be so revealing. I ban em.
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I'm quiet too. Blame the porn!
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Im quite too (on the odd occassion someone actually makes me come), I mean don't get me wrong I moan but its not loud porn star type moaning and I would feel ridiculous faking it.
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I don't like to fake but... When I've had enough I'm like Meg Ryan!
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Fake it until you make it!
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Like 20 'ahhs', 20 'uuuoooh's', then arch the back...
then a wibbly-wobbly muscle contraction...
then a licking-lemons face?
Would that do the trick? :D
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Just like there's a market for squirters, or a market for girls who scream, I'm sure there's a market out there for demure girls who don't make much noise. As XW5 says, emphasize that you do 'real' orgasms, or maybe something like 'I'll never piss off your neighbors." Lol.
But just because you think it's obvious you're orgasming doesn't mean anyone else can tell. I'm female and I can't even tell a real from a fake. It might be useful to add "I'm cumming" into your repertoire, if you haven't already.
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Yep faking seems to keep them happy
I did have one who was annoyed at me for the way I made noises ( just to add I'm not at all one of the cringeworthy ones, unless that's what they push me to with their insistence)
You can't win, but fake American porn noises seems to be what they think is normal
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Haha, thanks everyone! I'm in a weird period at the moment where I'm sort of worried about adding anything more off-putting to my profile, ever since I tried to explain my nationality I've seen a drastic decrease in requests which then shot straight back up when I removed that part. ::) When I said I made my orgasm obvious, I mean I actually tell them haha. But it's only happened twice and I'm not interested in pretending to them that I have came otherwise. I get that some expect that but to me it's just a weird and unnatural thing to lie about especially if they have only penetrated me - such a small percentage of women can orgasm from that alone. I don't know, it just doesn't at all flow with who I am and faking it would just heighten my anxiety by having me worry the whole time that they can tell I'm faking it. I'm not really interested in pandering to the kinds that write reviews if I'm honest, given I'm so vanilla I don't think I even appeal to them.
I'll try and word something about it in my profile, not really sure that it's anything but a bad thing though which is why I'm reluctant. I really don't think there's much of a market for people like me in my city (which is already relatively quiet for this work in comparison to some others).
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My advice is to "dramatise" a little! Ok fake is what I mean, it keeps them happy in my experience x
I don't think you should fake it at all. One of the common pet hates of clients is fakers. If you talk to them about it you'll soon find that. I'm the same as the OP, quiet but the client can often feel the contractions. I don't bother if they know I have or not. Some clients it happens most times I see them but they are the minority. The ones that kind of expect it I don't book again.
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In my view, many of them don't care too much if you are quiet or loud, but from time to time, you get one of those who absolutely MUST make you cum no matter what, and they won't stop pestering you and asking 1milliom questions as to why you can't 'just relax' 'just let it go' etc etc. i find it much much easier to just fake it when I get one of those pussy masters, rather than try to explain that my body is not a machine, as they usually don't understand that
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My advice is to "dramatise" a little! Ok fake is what I mean, it keeps them happy in my experience x
I don't think you should fake it at all. One of the common pet hates of clients is fakers. If you talk to them about it you'll soon find that. I'm the same as the OP, quiet but the client can often feel the contractions. I don't bother if they know I have or not. Some clients it happens most times I see them but they are the minority. The ones that kind of expect it I don't book again.
I think it depends how good you are at faking? I'm pretty good I think, don't over dramatise and scream the house down! If I waited for a real orgasm off a punter I'd be waiting a long time x
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I fake it with every client who gives me attention down there for longer than 2 minutes, and also sometimes fake it during sex if I feel they want me to orgasm or if they're taking too long and I need to speed them up (always works). It felt weird at first especially b/c I very rarely fake it in my personal life. In the beginning I had to really concentrate and try to act out what I do both noise-wise and with my body when I'm having a real orgasm. Now I'm so good at it I can be mentally creating my grocery list while singing along to a song in my head AND contracting my muscles so it looks and feels like I've completely lost control. I find it incredibly amusing and one more trick to use at my disposal, and the clients' egos love to be stroked by thinking they can make you come. I am not normally turned on by clients at all and even if I was I'm there for him, not myself, so almost never have real orgasms with clients b/c then I'd have to concentrate on something other than his experience. I get really good feedback and every man loves giving a woman an orgasm, so I don't feel bad at all about faking it- like I said, I'm creating an experience and playing into a fantasy. I think you need to have the trifecta in order to pull it off- the right amount of noise/breathing (nothing phony or over the top), facial expressions AND body tensing.
Oh, and for the muscle spasms- do your kegels and core work! I have so many guys say something along the lines of "there is no way you could have faked that, your body was spasming" or "wow I could feel you pulsing." The bonus is it will make your real orgasms stronger, too ;D
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I've mentally stopped myself over the years from having an orgasm, I've wanted to save it for my personal sex life, I've had the odd client who gives good oral but I never cum. It's all an act in a way? I mean gfe is an act, we are not their girlfriends or in love but we act like we are, it's part of the service they pay for. I think a lot of us deserve an oscar, all my clients get a good effort from me and 90% are regular punters so I must be doing something right and I genuinely care that they get their money's worth x
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It's all an act in a way? I mean gfe is an act, we are not their girlfriends or in love but we act like we are, it's part of the service they pay for. I think a lot of us deserve an oscar, all my clients get a good effort from me and 90% are regular punters so I must be doing something right and I genuinely care that they get their money's worth x
I think this all the time. Like during appointments I will be mentally patting myself on the back for giving such a good performance. I've started judging actresses doing sex scenes b/c I'm always thinking I could do it so much better ;D
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My advice is to "dramatise" a little! Ok fake is what I mean, it keeps them happy in my experience x
I don't think you should fake it at all. One of the common pet hates of clients is fakers. If you talk to them about it you'll soon find that. I'm the same as the OP, quiet but the client can often feel the contractions. I don't bother if they know I have or not. Some clients it happens most times I see them but they are the minority. The ones that kind of expect it I don't book again.
I think it depends how good you are at faking? I'm pretty good I think, don't over dramatise and scream the house down! If I waited for a real orgasm off a punter I'd be waiting a long time x
Completely agree nia, majority of women will not come so easily, but men love the ego stroking. It's extremely rare for a punter to think you're faking it...unless you're a bit unnatural with your acting
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My advice is to "dramatise" a little! Ok fake is what I mean, it keeps them happy in my experience x
I don't think you should fake it at all. One of the common pet hates of clients is fakers. If you talk to them about it you'll soon find that. I'm the same as the OP, quiet but the client can often feel the contractions. I don't bother if they know I have or not. Some clients it happens most times I see them but they are the minority. The ones that kind of expect it I don't book again.
I think it depends how good you are at faking? I'm pretty good I think, don't over dramatise and scream the house down! If I waited for a real orgasm off a punter I'd be waiting a long time x
Completely agree nia, majority of women will not come so easily, but men love the ego stroking. It's extremely rare for a punter to think you're faking it...unless you're a bit unnatural with your acting
Maybe with you, but here must be a lot of poor actresses around then. As I said before it's one of the more frequent moans.
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Yeah, all I seem to hear is punters moaning about the fake moans! I don't think the fact I don't fake orgasms means they're not getting their monies worth. They're having an 18 year old coming round to their house, doing all she can that she is comfortable with to make them happy. Is my fake orgasm really going to make that much of a difference? They must have small egos if the lack of an orgasm is really going to break them, again - I'm not too interested in pandering to the delusional that think I'm really there to get off, unless I do get off. I don't think it's something they should expect or necessarily deserve, for those girls that do fake it convincingly, it's a nice extra but I didn't come into this thinking it was a must-do until that feedback. It's really not my thing at all, I can feign pleasure but not an orgasm and I am already a ridiculously quiet person, it's one of the many reasons I can't do "regular" service jobs. If they want the "girlfriend experience", they can get the bit where I don't cum as well as that happens all too regularly with actual couples. ;D However, note that I did actually orgasm and that he knew, so the problem evidently isn't if I can or can't have a real or fake orgasm, it's the fact that I don't moan a lot during.
My point is that just the thought of fake-moaning is something I'm really not comfortable with, I simply don't express myself that way unless I'm with a partner. Like some of you don't feel comfortable having real orgasms on the job, I don't feel comfortable making noise. Feeling like I have to do this is just going to add yet another level of stress to a job I don't exactly love already. To be honest, I think it's getting to the point where it's expecting a bit much out of me, and with this guy in particular he got an extra ten minutes *on top of* another hour as he drove me there and back from the train station, so he was definitely getting his money's worth!
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My advice is to "dramatise" a little! Ok fake is what I mean, it keeps them happy in my experience x
I don't think you should fake it at all. One of the common pet hates of clients is fakers. If you talk to them about it you'll soon find that. I'm the same as the OP, quiet but the client can often feel the contractions. I don't bother if they know I have or not. Some clients it happens most times I see them but they are the minority. The ones that kind of expect it I don't book again.
I think it depends how good you are at faking? I'm pretty good I think, don't over dramatise and scream the house down! If I waited for a real orgasm off a punter I'd be waiting a long time x
Completely agree nia, majority of women will not come so easily, but men love the ego stroking. It's extremely rare for a punter to think you're faking it...unless you're a bit unnatural with your acting
Maybe with you, but here must be a lot of poor actresses around then. As I said before it's one of the more frequent moans.
Yeah I know what you mean, I definitely don't do it unless I feel they won't quit asking or pestering then it's sometimes easier just to get them to move on, but I hate doing it too
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I just say i go sensitive and wont be able to perform if i cum too soon, i'll leave it to the end of the booking. I cum within like 1 minute lol i'm an easy cummer but i hold on for that reason
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I haven't had a real orgasm with a client in 8 years ::) and nowadays I just shut off and save something so intimate for my husband, the thought of being that vulnerable with a client makes me feel quite sick frankly.
I am however a great faker and hear all the time "wow that was amazing, I could FEEL it!" it always makes me smirk a little. Technique and skills officially honed.
It's not for everyone though, when I was still learning my faking skills I used to be extremely quiet but I would use the excuse I was focussing on the client and how much I was loving it to put on a show for them. They eat that shit up and soon forget what they were complaining about!
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Don't feel like you have to change anything just because a client said so. Stick with what you are comfortable doing.
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I would never fake, makes it all the more special when it just happens naturally ;)
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Hi lovely,
We just can't keep them all happy.
I had a client complain during intercourse that I was faking it and I absolutely wasn't, I just happen to be more boisterous.
I think we have to run with what is natural
To us, which ever way we express ourselves there will be clients who will appreciate us and like us exactly as we are.
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I've never genuinely had an orgasm with a client (came close, but never got there ;)), and I tell them so..
I explain that for me personally it's about more that having an orgasm, and just because I don't come, doesn't mean I
don't enjoy it!
And they're usually totally fine and quite understanding about it.
I do make the appropriate noises of enjoyment (even when I'm bored off my tits ;)), but I've never faked an orgasm, and
it's never been a problem..
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I've had a few older ones seem put out if I haven't so I will fake it later in the booking with those ones, then they expect me to scream! Lots of guys who cum don't exactly scream so I say to them, I did but I'm not a screamer. Most of the time they think it's genuine though.
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Probably just as well I don't come with clients, especially older ones, as I swear when I have an orgasm lol ;D
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When it's especially intense I swear too! and bite the pillow. Might try that one time when wriggling and breathing heavy and moaning isn't enough for them. They might love it. ;D
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Well I have changed my approach a bit and incorporated some noises I can manage (okay I mean a sort of heavier breath and a happy sigh), they seem happier but then generally I've had some bloody wonderful clients lately!
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I find a lot of guys get annoyed when i don't orgasm which I never do, I generally fake just sometimes my body can naturally be stubborn but does anybody else find that some guys get about funny about you not reaching climax?
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The ones that ask or rather expect me to orgasm (bloody annoying) get my Oscar Award treatment in that it's fake fake fake all the way (incredible how a bit of writing around and loud moans and groans can work oh and not to mention YOU MADE ME CUM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH! .............
However.................. on the other hand I have a few lovely incredible regulars who are very unassuming, almost humble in some weird way and they make me orgasm every time! I actually look forward to those bookings because I think, yes, lucky me!
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I have a few clients who have made me orgasm but I actually resent this happening and don't really enjoy it. It makes me feel weird that I don't really enjoy being intimate with them but my body responds to it :-\
I HATE when during sex a client will whisper 'I want to make you come' or 'I want you to come first' so I fake it because I don't want them banging away for ages and holding back when it's not ever going to happen. I don't EVER orgasm through penetration. I don't know if some men are really so ignorant to not know that about 1/3rd of women CAN'T orgasm through penetration or if they just want the ego boost and don't really care much if you fake it ::) Like others I use my pelvic floor muscles, arch my back and shudder a little, also if they're touching me I grab their hand and hold it against my clit and afterwards I pretend my clit is oh so sensitive like it is if I have a genuine orgasm.
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I wish I could cum everytime with every client. I have no issue about not wanting to or holding back, it's just that I physically can't. I'm just as bad in personal relationships. I'm too used to only wanting to make sure I give pleasure. I find its way too much pressure if a guy wants or expects me to cum n I never fake it. I don't believe in that. I've cum twice with clients n I would never have expected it. Had a handful of surprise squirts which is odd as I'm not a squirter. I'm more interested in them coming n enjoying themselves then leaving me to get on with it later on my own if I fancy it, no pressure. And I can take ages to come at times n wouldn't want them getting bored anyway. Some get me close but it's rare I organ.
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I am definitely quiet because my parents' house had very thin internal walls and I did not want to make it obvious what I was doing.
Just make a comment in your marketing that you don't fake and you hate fake noises... but when you do orgasm, they will notice.
And for the ones who don't, thank them.
Exactly this.
I'm pretty quiet...I don't generally orgasm with clients but even when they are doing something terrible I'll oooh and aah a little and heavy breathe...only one guy has ever mentioned it but I just said 'I can say oh fuck me baby and harder, harder like a porn star if you want, but I think that's too fake' I said it in a nice, laughing way. He just laughed too and that was the end of it, it went well from there.
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I wish I could cum everytime with every client. I have no issue about not wanting to or holding back, it's just that I physically can't. I'm just as bad in personal relationships. I'm too used to only wanting to make sure I give pleasure. I find its way too much pressure if a guy wants or expects me to cum n I never fake it. I don't believe in that. I've cum twice with clients n I would never have expected it. Had a handful of surprise squirts which is odd as I'm not a squirter. I'm more interested in them coming n enjoying themselves then leaving me to get on with it later on my own if I fancy it, no pressure. And I can take ages to come at times n wouldn't want them getting bored anyway. Some get me close but it's rare I organ.
It happens with me when I feel relaxed which I do with some regulars. I get what Alice842 says about your body reacting to it. That's what happens to me. I used to try and resist it sometimes, but it's best to go with the flow. It's one of the aspects of this work I like these days.
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I find it very difficult to fake it, just not a very good actress. Most of my clients are three decades older than me so its hard to be turned on to orgasm. Have managed it once though with a lovely 55 year old. his tongue was just out of this world ;)
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I see a regular who always makes me come twice in one hour. He is amazing in bed and much better than any of my ex partners.
Often others make me come too. Those ones who think are so good, but do really nothing for me and have no idea how to please a woman, I just can't wait for them to finish, I 'pretend' just to encourage them to come.
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I have a few clients who have made me orgasm but I actually resent this happening and don't really enjoy it. It makes me feel weird that I don't really enjoy being intimate with them but my body responds to it :-\
I HATE when during sex a client will whisper 'I want to make you come' or 'I want you to come first' so I fake it because I don't want them banging away for ages and holding back when it's not ever going to happen. I don't EVER orgasm through penetration. I don't know if some men are really so ignorant to not know that about 1/3rd of women CAN'T orgasm through penetration or if they just want the ego boost and don't really care much if you fake it ::) Like others I use my pelvic floor muscles, arch my back and shudder a little, also if they're touching me I grab their hand and hold it against my clit and afterwards I pretend my clit is oh so sensitive like it is if I have a genuine orgasm.
^^^this, 200%! I don't think I could have said it any better, alice842! It irritates me to no extent when a client will think it's "their job" to make me come. Then, I have to go through the most dramatic acting job to make them think that I do, otherwise, they won't stop or get all bent out of shape. Most of them think that your privates are like a fricking scrubbing board and when you tell them to go more gently (even showing them with your hand), they *still* keep it up! WTF? It's like they're so utterly dense and don't even speak English?!! Idiots...
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I say 'It'll take 2 hours'...
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I can only have an orgasm or two a day (with a few hours in between.) Sometimes a customer can get me off and that's nice. But in order to do so they have to what actually gets me off - nothing weird or anything, it's just that I like to be touched a particular way.
I don't really bother to fake it very often because it seems unnecessary for most clients. But you do get the ones that state a desire to see me cum. Sadly, they're often the ones who aren't very good lovers (and the least likely to take hints or directions.) So, I put on the spasms and kegals and try to mimic what I actually do when I orgasm. They do seem to be convinced. I guess because the ones that are naive enough to expect it are the most gullible or something.
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I had an orgasm recently when an oldish guy was rubbing his thigh against me. That's done it for me before, when we're wriggling around and I've rubbed myself on their thigh :) I don't think to do that often but thinking about it makes me horny. How strange.
Sometimes when I've had one with someone I don't fancy, I wonder if it's because they're so unlikely to be ones I'd go with outside the job that it makes it seem more taboo and that turns me on :-*, the dirty old man types but again the touch has to be right. It's not often that happens though.
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It's like we're damned if we do and damned if we don't. They want us to cum - on their schedule, according to their techniques - and if we don't we're cold miserable money-hungry wretches. But if we fake it we're, cold and dishonest miserable money-hungry wretches.
To hear some of them, anything other than genuine nymphomania is unacceptable and we should all go stack shelves at Tesco if we're not "cut out for this." Imagine if they were to get their way... they'd all be in a very long queue to visit the scant handful of prossies who are genuinely enjoy sex with every client.
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It's only happened once, but when I had to fake it with someone who went on and on, he did phone again and said that seeing as I enjoyed it so much would I consider having an affair rather than a paid thing as he couldn't financially mange it again >:(
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To me work is all acting, and it doesn't do anything sexually for me. I subscribe to the "fake it 'til you make it" school of philosophy. ;D
Love it!
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It's only happened once, but when I had to fake it with someone who went on and on, he did phone again and said that seeing as I enjoyed it so much would I consider having an affair rather than a paid thing as he couldn't financially mange it again >:(
Ha! Amazing! What did you say to him?
I think it may be something to do with the kind of client that I select/prefer but ALL of them expect me to come. That's the one trait I wish they didn't all have. Sometimes I just don't want to, but that isn't allowed and so out comes the acting because I'm aware that if I don't I'm ruining their fantasy and the whole point of the booking.
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I don't even bother faking it.. I just tell them straight out I've never came with a client but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy it! :D
And make the appropriate "enjoy" noises, sometimes they're actually real though lol, but most of the time I fake them ;)
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It's only happened once, but when I had to fake it with someone who went on and on, he did phone again and said that seeing as I enjoyed it so much would I consider having an affair rather than a paid thing as he couldn't financially mange it again >:(
Ha! Amazing! What did you say to him?
I said sorry if it sounds harsh but this is a business and my living so I'm not looking to have an affair with anyone. That was the end of him! He was very lah di dah, awfully posh first name, best not say it but what was worse was that he said his wife had just had a baby and that's why he had a few financial difficulties. How did I resist!!
Orgasming, real or faking, can backfire at times as some might think they're more special then others and we might do them favours but if someone's hinting they won't finish until I do and trying to go going over time then I'll continue faking with those ones. Happier doing that with my vibe which some of them like.