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Re: Client not paid
« Reply #15 on: 23 October 2020, 12:51:23 pm »
If you seriously believe any of that would hold water (and if you do, I have a bridge you might be interested in), then fine. Suspending disbelief at superhuman level, what happens when he says she's lying and he did pay her?

She has messages supporting his lies he never paid her then he blocked her. So those messages are proof of the kind of person he is never paying her.

I am not saying she should take it further as probably will not be worth the hassle especially as it was not a long booking.

But i do remember someone i know who had a outcall it was for several hours around £700 she should have got and bank transfer never arrived after. She contacted him had proof on texts that he never paid also, so she went to a solicitor explained the situation he asked if she had any proof which he agreed to pay and never paid she pulled up the proof from his telephone number. The solicitor then sent him a letter basically saying you agreed to pay this money and said it had gone to her and it was untrue they gave him so many days to pay up and he ending up paying her the full amount within 3 days of getting the letter. She had his address so obviously the situation was easier and getting a solicitor involved worked for her. The scammer did not even think a solicitor would represent her or she would even contact one.

It is just an example of a situation working out in the end for her anyway.

But the key message should be never ever ever do bank transfers or start any service without that money being in there. A bank transfer for a deposit that you get before is the only way a bank transfer could work.

Majority of men that want to pay by bank transfer on arrival to a booking are scammers.

I went on a outcall to a house before lockdown and i made it clear on phone payment is paid in cash to him and i text it. I arrived and i said lets sort out payment after 1 minute of getting in he then said sure what is your bank details? I was like your joking i told you cash. He said your the only one refusing it and telling me i cant pay that way everybody else i have over is fine. I said i don't care i want my cash and i am not leaving without it. For 10 mins he kept arguing then showed me his bank that he had over 5k in that bank. I knew he was trying to scam me. I refused to leave and said if its not paid lets call the police he never wanted that so he ending up having to go into town to get the 2hrs outcall fee.

He was a nightmare kept trying to get bareback and boundary pushing other things and ignoring when i said stop that i had to get very abrupt with him before he realised i was getting angry and was going to be leaving and there was traces of coke in the bedroom so can see why he never wanted police there but i drove a long way there and turned down other bookings so i was not in the mood to be conned but even if he never went to get the cash machine i would never have agreed to any transfer i don't want the anxiety of not getting it and having to beg for the money after.

If he never went cash point i would have called police and take the gamble that it would go in my favour,  i actually had a friend that went on an outcall and had trouble with a horrible rude drunk old man who refused to give her the money i think it might have even been he paid her a bit extended and tried to con her owed her another 150 or something like that she ended up calling police they arrived could see the situation he was conning her and calling her a whore in front of police the police told him he needs to pay her he was arguing and being verbally aggressive when the police threatened to take him down the station and sort it out down there he ended up paying. The police were good in this situation they saw what he was trying to do and she got all her money owed.


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Re: Client not paid
« Reply #16 on: 25 October 2020, 10:48:56 pm »
I never had any problems with bank transfer if they ask to pay this way then it’s done at the beginning of the booking and I get my phone out go on my banking app and can litrally see it instantly showing in my account I move it to another account and I do all this just on iPhone. If the money did not instantly show as available then no booking.
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Re: Client not paid
« Reply #17 on: 25 October 2020, 11:47:11 pm »
I didn’t think bank transfers could be reversed!  I accept them and check my account. But can the guy actually reverse it?
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English Green

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Re: Client not paid
« Reply #18 on: 26 October 2020, 08:36:15 am »
The guy cannot reverse it once it has gone into your account but if the bank suspect fraud or another reason they can recall it.

The problem with the scammers is if it's not in your account when you are supposed to start the booking you have the hassle of getting him to leave as some have found out when they refuse to go because they say it will be in there but your end it's not showing. Just so much hassle another reason i will not do this.

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Re: Client not paid
« Reply #19 on: 26 October 2020, 07:06:00 pm »
Hi Curvycutekate and I am so sorry this happened to you. It is absolutely soul destroying when you don't get paid for this kind of work. I truly believe there is a special place in hell for this kind of man.

The truth though is that unless you get cash in your hand at the start of the booking, the likelihood is that you won't get paid. The strongest position that you have during sex work is at the very start of the booking - when you are there and they know you will give them what they want, but only if they pay you, cash in your hand, right then and now. Once you have sex without receiving payment they will not pay you afterwards. Take that as a given: once you've fucked them, that money (if it ever existed) is gone.

I disagree with the previous posters because I don't think the payment was made or reversed at all. Although that can be done it's quite difficult and requires form filling and a personal interview at the bank. Far easier to sweet talk a girl that trusts you've put in money then blames the bank. Don't be that girl!

I'm sorry it's too late for you Kate but I hope this thread can help others x

saltysweet

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Re: Client not paid
« Reply #20 on: 26 October 2020, 07:31:32 pm »
I agree with Nelly.
If you re-frame the incident- he was never a 'client' as he has no intention of paying, but he is an experienced pussy thief.
« Last Edit: 26 October 2020, 07:35:02 pm by saltysweet »

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Re: Client not paid
« Reply #21 on: 27 October 2020, 08:47:28 am »
I had a man call me up the other day and ask to pay by bank transfer and I said that was okay except I won’t be taking so much as a shoe off until I was able to see that cash in my account and move it, he then cancelled, obviously going to try and do what yours did.

The reality is that you’re going to have to be firm and say cash only and if they can’t give you cash, then you don’t see them, it’s that simple really.

It’s a lesson to you, you have to be assertive even if you don’t feel like it, then fake it, I have noticed that assertiveness puts the wrong type of client off and that’s what you want as an escort really.

Bank transfers took 2 hours to hit the account away back over 10 years ago as I recall, but nowadays it’s instant so no excuses.

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Re: Client not paid
« Reply #22 on: 28 October 2020, 06:59:57 am »
If they ask about a bank transfer before arrival I say yes as long as they do there and then before they come to my place. They either cancel or suddenly find a cash machine when I say that.

If they ask about a bank transfer on arrival I give them two min to do it and check it’s in my account. I kicked one out the other day for faffing about on phone for too long.
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Re: Client not paid
« Reply #23 on: 01 November 2020, 08:47:19 pm »
Hi Curvycutekate and I am so sorry this happened to you. It is absolutely soul destroying when you don't get paid for this kind of work. I truly believe there is a special place in hell for this kind of man.

The truth though is that unless you get cash in your hand at the start of the booking, the likelihood is that you won't get paid. The strongest position that you have during sex work is at the very start of the booking - when you are there and they know you will give them what they want, but only if they pay you, cash in your hand, right then and now. Once you have sex without receiving payment they will not pay you afterwards. Take that as a given: once you've fucked them, that money (if it ever existed) is gone.

I disagree with the previous posters because I don't think the payment was made or reversed at all. Although that can be done it's quite difficult and requires form filling and a personal interview at the bank. Far easier to sweet talk a girl that trusts you've put in money then blames the bank. Don't be that girl!

I'm sorry it's too late for you Kate but I hope this thread can help others x


Thank you for this, I have reported him to Ugly Mugs aswell and have definately learnt from it. One of those ones where you forget about it and then it niggles in the back of your head arghhh but yes at least it might be able to help some other girls.