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Miss Mary

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what's my next move?
« on: 27 July 2010, 02:06:11 pm »
so, bit of a long story but this particular species of man, was originally destined to probably be a one time client but ended up being a prospective sugar daddy (i really loathe this term)/benefactor. We went on some lovely dates, but he never actually succumbed to the actually practice of giving me money. "I've never been the type to play for play....wahhh wahhh wahhh" "The economy really hit me"  yet in the same hour I've been told he's sold plenty of multi-million dollar estates and knows the owner of Nobu, quite well.

aka: Miss Mary doesn't care. On to the next.

Still he persisted. I thought about the prospects of him being a gift daddy but my spidey senses told me he couldn't actually deliver what I wanted. So again, I tried to move on. And made it clear nice dinners are great, but they don't do anything for me: except get me fat.  And I don't need your help, if i feel like getting fat. He definitely likes me, and not just in the I fancy you, blow me way. Or if you weren't paying me, I'd completely ignore your existence way. I can tell with him its the, I can spend time with you and enjoy myself without wanting to paint the walls with my brains. or yours.

i knew this is was a tool, so I tempted him, flirted and what have you. We DO have a great time together, but great times do not pay the bills. Unfortunately.

So we went on one last date, I laid my cards and simply said, I think we've had this convo before and I know what I want and what you want and neither have really given in, so we're at an impasse. And it seems as though, thats where we're staying!! We parted amicably, and I went home full and bit tipsy. With leftovers.  :D



Naturally,  yesterday he randomly emails me. "Seeing how I'm doing". Long story short, I informed there wasn't a need to do that unless he'd changed his mind.  Smart ass remark responded, I go back to my day of cramps and cupcake cravings.  Then I get one more email... "what do you want to jerk me off tomorrow"

 ???


what the hell? I'm not sure how to respond to that? He tells me he's never been the type to play for pay...and how he's inquiring? I think this is an attempt to see me again...but i'm not sure what to do. Perhaps some waiting could make him actually give me what I want?? Or should i just ignore him....

Help!!!!

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Re: what's my next move?
« Reply #1 on: 27 July 2010, 02:26:50 pm »
Oh, he's just being grumpy and sulky because you've told him what you want and are actually sticking to your guns. You've also terribly rudely made him aware that you don't desperately need him for anything, or at least are fully capable of finding someone else to do what he should be doing. How could you! :P (Joke!) He's literally one step away from calling you a big ol' whore, with his comment about jerking him off - he's saying, "Why do you want to have sex with me for money when you could just have endless dinners with me for free?! Because I am awesome and rich but stingy! Does somehow not compute!"

He's doing childish tantrum-throwing and toy-flinging. It's entirely up to you whether you consider trying to persuade him to pay you for your time but looking at his recent immature behaviour, he looks like the worst kind of sugar daddy/'benefactor'. I'd tell him exactly what I think and ask him to piss off, but then, I'm no good at putting up with silly idiots in an excessively tiring and tedious dance of mutual emotional manipulation and game-playing. That's probably why I don't have a 'benefactor'. ;D Give me boundaries, borders and clear rules around paid sex any day.

I do admire others who have the patience and manage to pull it off successfully (ie without getting dragged down too deeply into it all), though. And Miss Mary - I think you already know exactly what's going on with this guy! It all just really depends on how much spare time you've got at the moment to spend on him. I would say there's a 20% chance he'll pay you for sex and an 80% chance he'll just get progressively sulkier and ruder at your cruelly practical 'rejection' of his charms.

I think I'm going to now do all my analyses of silly male behaviour that gets reported around here in percentages. :D
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Re: what's my next move?
« Reply #2 on: 27 July 2010, 02:41:09 pm »
Emily you're totally right. Very much the case of asking a question knowing damn well what the answer is...

But at the same measure I feel like ( it could be my hope and naivete) if I ignore him enough he could cave. Like in business, a large entity doesn't just give up when a small, yet incredibly strong company doesn't bend to their will and agreed to be swallowed up. If the larger company sees you as part of their portfolio, and something they must have. They bide their time and offer more money. (Or wait til other factors come in). He has never been rude, he has gotten snippy, to which he was FIRMLY and quickly regulated.  (i.e.  You, older, married, 50. Me, hot, early 20s, intelligent, ...and did I mention Hot?)  I made it very clear if he thought he'd be sucking up my time and affection he was surely mistaken. He is battling with the fact that he wants me. But doesn't want to pay. Yawwwn.

You're right- dealing with SDs is draining, on a completely different level than escorting. More of a psychological battle/warfare. Hes a 50 something man, who's afraid to say he's bored out of his skull and feeling insecure about his sexual adequacy.  The shark in me says wait...  Sigh. I don't know.  ::)

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Re: what's my next move?
« Reply #3 on: 27 July 2010, 04:28:12 pm »
This is my issue with the sugar daddy thing. The boundaries are too fluid, there are no clear terms of contract, and when it comes to it you do twice as much work for no guaranteed return..balls and buggeration.

If he is uncomfortable for paying for sex, how about paying for your rent? Even a mistress usually gets a love nest (well, a wily mistress) so..if he can't play to pay, can he pay for somewhere to stay?

If not chickie, cut him loose. You could have done a few quickies in the time it took you to eat the chocolate mousse. (te he..i'm a poet)
« Last Edit: 27 July 2010, 04:32:21 pm by Lucy Chambers »

EmilyJones

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Re: what's my next move?
« Reply #4 on: 27 July 2010, 06:40:09 pm »
But at the same measure I feel like ( it could be my hope and naivete) if I ignore him enough he could cave. Like in business, a large entity doesn't just give up when a small, yet incredibly strong company doesn't bend to their will and agreed to be swallowed up. If the larger company sees you as part of their portfolio, and something they must have. They bide their time and offer more money. (Or wait til other factors come in).

That's interesting. I like the analogy! I feel a bit more energetic this afternoon than earlier this morning so I guess I can see that if there's a chance for a big reward after playing some games, and if you've got the energy, then why not try? I am definitely very quick to dismiss people who threaten to cause problems in my life because I know I don't handle extra stress well etc etc and I think in this situation I put too much of my own personality into it. But if you feel confident (and I agree that you do know what you're doing, much more than I would) then why not play a bit of the waiting game? He's already been rude to you so it's not like you've got that shock still to come, thank god. :P

balls and buggeration.

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Re: what's my next move?
« Reply #5 on: 28 July 2010, 04:16:39 pm »
The shark in me says wait... 

If you keep waiting, it looks like the worst you have to deal with is more whiny emails.

"Why just jerk you off? You could have so much more.. if you agree to my terms."
'The Ian formerly known as SW5'. What they said: "Indispensable", "You are our best resource", and (hours later!) "I'm afraid that you're being made redundant..."

Miss Mary

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Re: what's my next move?
« Reply #6 on: 28 July 2010, 05:59:10 pm »
hey ladies, thanks for the the responses!  :-*

I did ignore him yesterday and haven't heard back. Honestly Emily I totally get where your coming from. Its a hard game to play. Especially when you don't accept BS. I'm choosing to ignore him until he decides to cave. I figure if he wants to he will, if not then it doesn't matter anyway-- i always have backups!!

Got a feeling he'll be back. He's REALLY into me. So I'm gonna take the back seat for now...Lets hope he gets a clue before my birthday!!

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Re: what's my next move?
« Reply #7 on: 28 July 2010, 06:03:19 pm »
hey ladies, thanks for the the responses!  :-*

I did ignore him yesterday and haven't heard back. Honestly Emily I totally get where your coming from. Its a hard game to play. Especially when you don't accept BS. I'm choosing to ignore him until he decides to cave. I figure if he wants to he will, if not then it doesn't matter anyway-- i always have backups!!

Got a feeling he'll be back. He's REALLY into me. So I'm gonna take the back seat for now...Lets hope he gets a clue before my birthday!!

Good. Just don't forget how petty people can get - when they feel they've been slighted, they can lash out. You have told this guy his, er, magnetic personality and powerful sexual aura won't win you over without some material goods so I'm just worried his pride is so wounded that he'll continue with the insults. Nothing you can't handle but also nothing I'd exactly enjoy experiencing!
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Re: what's my next move?
« Reply #8 on: 28 July 2010, 06:41:00 pm »
hey ladies, thanks for the the responses!  :-*

I did ignore him yesterday and haven't heard back. Honestly Emily I totally get where your coming from. Its a hard game to play. Especially when you don't accept BS. I'm choosing to ignore him until he decides to cave. I figure if he wants to he will, if not then it doesn't matter anyway-- i always have backups!!

Got a feeling he'll be back. He's REALLY into me. So I'm gonna take the back seat for now...Lets hope he gets a clue before my birthday!!

Good. Just don't forget how petty people can get - when they feel they've been slighted, they can lash out. You have told this guy his, er, magnetic personality and powerful sexual aura won't win you over without some material goods so I'm just worried his pride is so wounded that he'll continue with the insults. Nothing you can't handle but also nothing I'd exactly enjoy experiencing!

True Emily, this was also a reason why I didnt want to answer the jerk off question because-- idk it seemed like it bad decision, especially when he's been so adamant about not 'paying for play' (his words not mine...i'm much more eloquent that that ;) )

also- glad you liked my analogy :)I get that you're a low-stress person, I respect and appreciate that. I am too, to a fault. But, i've been known to take a few risks...but calculated ones, for the most part.