See also the main SAAFE.info site for more Support And Advice For Escorts

Author Topic: Unregistered sim card  (Read 8297 times)

Mirror

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 6,814
Re: Unregistered sim card
« Reply #15 on: 30 March 2016, 07:56:32 pm »
Definitely an unregistered Sim card.. I had a potential client that had called me before he had been reported a missing person, the police traced my number and turned up on my door step  :o

They can trace unregistered sim cards.

Nia Hope

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2,401
Re: Unregistered sim card
« Reply #16 on: 30 March 2016, 08:09:15 pm »
Definitely an unregistered Sim card.. I had a potential client that had called me before he had been reported a missing person, the police traced my number and turned up on my door step  :o

They can trace unregistered sim cards.
The police can trace any phone they want including all deleted texts/calls, clients can't trace though unless they want to pay a lot of money to a dodgy policeman which I doubt they'd bother
« Last Edit: 30 March 2016, 08:13:20 pm by Nia Hope »
If something is not perceived it doesn't exist.

Gracious

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 574
Re: Unregistered sim card
« Reply #17 on: 31 March 2016, 12:33:45 am »
They can trace unregistered sim cards.

The police can yes, but it seems that a "normal" every person cant (which is reassuring!)
Slow money is better then no money

bigbird

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 79
Re: Unregistered sim card
« Reply #18 on: 02 April 2016, 12:10:58 am »
It could have been very serious for me, all the police had to do was google my number and my website would have come up! Also it was my family home address and I could of been dragged into a court case if I had met this client.

I have no desire to be all over the newspapers with my life and reputation destroyed forever ::)

Mirror

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 6,814
Re: Unregistered sim card
« Reply #19 on: 02 April 2016, 02:40:18 am »
It could have been very serious for me, all the police had to do was google my number and my website would have come up! Also it was my family home address and I could of been dragged into a court case if I had met this client.

I have no desire to be all over the newspapers with my life and reputation destroyed forever ::)

How would an unregistered Sim prevent that? The police can still trace it and use GPS or other non-phone information to find you. A court case should only happen if and when they have firm evidence, not because you had contact with someone. That contact could lead them to find out where the person actually is.

Mariah

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 168
Re: Unregistered sim card
« Reply #20 on: 01 February 2017, 02:32:49 am »
Even though this is an old thread, I'm just posting here as I didn't want to start up a new thread on the same subject.

I ordered a sim card which has arrived. It doesn't come pre-registered with a new mobile number, as I've checked my phone settings and it's definitely not on there. I didn't want to register this in my real name just in my work name with my work email. As it's on Giffgaff, the only option seems to be that I activate the sim online, create a new account, which includes an initial top up of a minimum of ?10 (to properly activate the sim such that it can make and receive calls) and pay that by registering my card details which obviously defeats the purpose. I tried to purchase an O2 top up (same network) from an ATM but it required the phone number which I obviously don't have and is it the same procedure over the counter or can you just buy a top up voucher without giving a phone number? My question is do I have to register my payment card in order to set up this sim or have I missed something? Is it the same process with all PAYG sims now?

Gracious

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 574
Re: Unregistered sim card
« Reply #21 on: 01 February 2017, 03:21:55 am »
Even though this is an old thread, I'm just posting here as I didn't want to start up a new thread on the same subject.

I ordered a sim card which has arrived. It doesn't come pre-registered with a new mobile number, as I've checked my phone settings and it's definitely not on there. I didn't want to register this in my real name just in my work name with my work email. As it's on Giffgaff, the only option seems to be that I activate the sim online, create a new account, which includes an initial top up of a minimum of ?10 (to properly activate the sim such that it can make and receive calls) and pay that by registering my card details which obviously defeats the purpose. I tried to purchase an O2 top up (same network) from an ATM but it required the phone number which I obviously don't have and is it the same procedure over the counter or can you just buy a top up voucher without giving a phone number? My question is do I have to register my payment card in order to set up this sim or have I missed something? Is it the same process with all PAYG sims now?

Oooo thats a good Q!

Im assuming you will have to register it, as registration is part of the activation process. I have a GiffGaff sim too (best network EVER IMO!) It came with a number but I ported my old number to the new SIM card. Im slightly surprised that it came with no number. Are you certain this is the case?
« Last Edit: 01 February 2017, 03:28:17 am by Gracious »
Slow money is better then no money

Gracious

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 574
Re: Unregistered sim card
« Reply #22 on: 01 February 2017, 03:26:59 am »
Ok so I found an answer to your Q

https://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Help-Support/Sim-card-has-no-phone-number/td-p/346995

Dont be concerned about your personal CC details being used for topping up. If you scroll up and read the replies on here, you will see that you have nothing to worry about.

Welcome to GiffGaff!
Slow money is better then no money

Mariah

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 168
Re: Unregistered sim card
« Reply #23 on: 01 February 2017, 03:35:14 am »
Oooo thats a good Q!

Im assuming you will have to register it, as registration is part of the activation. I have a GiffGaff sim too (best network EVER IMO!) It came with a number but I ported my old number to the new SIM card. Im slightly surprised that it came with no number. Are you certain this is the case?

Positive. I've checked the phone settings and it definitely doesn't have the number attached. I had Giffgaff in the past and it always came with the number. Maybe they did it like this as they were running out of numbers or to stop people registering numbers just to receive calls. Who knows. It's really irritating as I want to keep work and personal totally separated with no overlap between the two. I've got some old Giffgaff sim cards that were never used but sent a couple of years ago, I might see if one of those is pre-registered with a number. I hope it is because I think it's a good network and so cheap if you need a big call/text/data allowance.

Mariah

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 168
Re: Unregistered sim card
« Reply #24 on: 01 February 2017, 03:36:47 am »
Ok so I found an answer to your Q

https://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Help-Support/Sim-card-has-no-phone-number/td-p/346995

Dont be concerned about your personal CC details being used for topping up. If you scroll up and read the replies on here, you will see that you have nothing to worry about.

Welcome to GiffGaff!

Thanks Gracious, I will have a look.

Gracious

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 574
Re: Unregistered sim card
« Reply #25 on: 01 February 2017, 03:44:09 am »
Positive. I've checked the phone settings and it definitely doesn't have the number attached. I had Giffgaff in the past and it always came with the number. Maybe they did it like this as they were running out of numbers or to stop people registering numbers just to receive calls. Who knows.

I prolly think there is a number but you cant see the number until you register it by topping it up with credit: either that or you get allocated a number once you have registered it.

It's really irritating as I want to keep work and personal totally separated with no overlap between the two.

Thats the best way to go. Its always best to separate business from personal

I've got some old Giffgaff sim cards that were never used but sent a couple of years ago, I might see if one of those is pre-registered with a number. I hope it is because I think it's a good network and so cheap if you need a big call/text/data allowance.

They probably dont work now as you need to top up once at least every 3 (or 6) months in order to keep the sim active (from my recollection)

Thanks Gracious, I will have a look.

Glad I could help!
Slow money is better then no money

longlashes

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 198
Re: Unregistered sim card
« Reply #26 on: 06 February 2017, 08:30:41 pm »
Even though this is an old thread, I'm just posting here as I didn't want to start up a new thread on the same subject.

I ordered a sim card which has arrived. It doesn't come pre-registered with a new mobile number, as I've checked my phone settings and it's definitely not on there. I didn't want to register this in my real name just in my work name with my work email. As it's on Giffgaff, the only option seems to be that I activate the sim online, create a new account, which includes an initial top up of a minimum of ?10 (to properly activate the sim such that it can make and receive calls) and pay that by registering my card details which obviously defeats the purpose. I tried to purchase an O2 top up (same network) from an ATM but it required the phone number which I obviously don't have and is it the same procedure over the counter or can you just buy a top up voucher without giving a phone number? My question is do I have to register my payment card in order to set up this sim or have I missed something? Is it the same process with all PAYG sims now?
 
Do I order a sim from Giff gaff website hun, I'm a returner to the industy and used to have a non smart phone and concerned about clients seeing you on whats app on a smart phone and don't see why I shouldn't have my face on my whats app.  I just want an old fashioned phone and unregistered sim for now till I get on my feet.  I know a smartphone is so useful but I can't cope with 2 smartphones at present.  Tried and failed after a test run a few weeks ago  :FF

Mariah

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 168
Re: Unregistered sim card
« Reply #27 on: 06 February 2017, 08:38:49 pm »
Just thought I'd update this; I bought a top up voucher and attempted to load the credit on the phone online. It would NOT allow me to apply the credit without first providing a name and address (and there was no way it would allow me to bypass the name and address request). So I gave a false name and a friend's address (with her permission). Once active, it gave me a phone number. Interestingly enough, that number still doesn't show in my phone settings so it must be an Android thing.
« Last Edit: 06 February 2017, 08:41:30 pm by Mariah »

Gracious

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 574
Re: Unregistered sim card
« Reply #28 on: 06 February 2017, 08:44:02 pm »
Just thought I'd update this; I bought a top up voucher and attempted to load the credit on the phone online. It would NOT allow me to apply the credit without first providing a name and address (and there was no way it would allow me to bypass the name and address request). So I gave a false name and a friend's address (with her permission).

Glad it all worked out.

FYI:

this was the reason why I started this topic because I personally dont know how easy it is to obtain someones real info via a telephone number only. 

Well in my case somebody would have to check up my number to find the network and then get a job working for Tesco Mobile, or at least find and become good friends with somebody who did. They would need to have access to customers personal details, and could then presumably find out my legal name, address, bank details and whatever by searching the records for my number.

But what would they then do with this information? Every possible course of action they could take is going to get them (or their friend) fired, prosecuted and probably both? Going to lengths like this just to wind up being charged with harassment (which would include contacting me and telling me that they have this information more than once) and more than likely winding up in the local paper doesn't seem like a very sensible use of anybody's time to me.

Exactly, in the UK a person would have to commit fraud to obtain this type of information, or put their job at risk.
« Last Edit: 06 February 2017, 08:46:35 pm by Gracious »
Slow money is better then no money

Mariah

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 168
Re: Unregistered sim card
« Reply #29 on: 06 February 2017, 08:47:59 pm »


Yes you have to order it online. They ask you to set up an account so I used my work name and work email address.