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Ivy

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Starting out.
« on: 01 August 2014, 10:48:46 am »
Hi everybody

I recently joined the site and now have a few questions that I really hope you all can help me with.
I can see many pros to being an indie, however, I am simply too caught up with the issue of security and vetting. I'd like to go independent when I feel I have enough knowledge of the business to do so. This means that I have to find an agency that actually treats the girls with respect and take the security measure they promised. It seems to me like there are a ton of agencies but very few good ones. Regardless, I live in a small country and I am not satisfied with the rates over here. I've considered agencies located in another country not too far away, but I can also see that it gets real complicated in no time. Tax, where to live, travel back and forth and so on. So I'm not sure if I should simply hire an agency here until I feel more comfortable going independent? Or should I somehow find a friend to pair up with and stay safe that way? I've never known anyone who did escorting, so I'm not sure where to go looking for a buddy:-)

I could write a lot more, as this obviously isn't something I share with other people, but this is an issue I really have to decide on very soon and I'd really appreciate some feedback from people who know what they're talking about:-)

Thanks:-)

Ivy
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Lady_Lust_XXX

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Re: Starting out.
« Reply #1 on: 01 August 2014, 11:24:30 am »
Ivy, the first thing you should realise is that agencies are more interested in how much money they will get from you than they are regarding your safety.  Sad statement, but true.

It difficult to advise when we don't know the countries you are talking about for we do not know the law of the countries involved and it is your right not to say but it does make it difficult if you don't even hint the direction. :(

The safety procedure however is the same the whole world round if you are independent.  The route to check may be slightly different and if you are not satisfied with something you discover or don't discover during your investigations then you have every right to refuse the booking. 

Don't give out ANY personal info to anyone especially agencies as they do not need this info and more so to someone who is making a booking.  Make up a persona and live by that persona when you are working and through time it will come to you without a second thought.

Personally, I sometimes forget my own real name as I can be in my persona for a while each day but that's ok.  I soon change.

Being independent is not really as daunting as you think.  Certainly better  than doing it for someone else.  Have a long hard think about it for if you work for an agency you can lose up to 50% of your earnings which can be a lot of money and for what?
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Ivy

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Re: Starting out.
« Reply #2 on: 01 August 2014, 12:56:06 pm »
Thank you so much for your reply:-) I really appreciate the time and effort you put into this site, it's great!

Well I live in Denmark, in the capital. So there are plenty of agencies, brothels and a few independents. I mean, there are plenty who advertise and have naked photos including the face all over the internet, but I am a student and I can't have this appear in 20 years because I wasn't careful about hiding my identity. Same goes for name and address and such, just as you mentioned. So I intend to be careful.

I do understand that I will lose some money if I work for an agency. I just don't feel confident about going at it alone as a total newbie. In the end, my safety and wellbeing is of greater importance to me than any amount of money, you know? If I were to go independent, I'd prefer to do it with a friend, so that you'd have some support and back up.

Just curious, and you don't have to answer of course, but the thing you mentioned about getting 'lost' in you other identity. Is that an issue? I mean, everything has to be compartmentalized unless one is willing to tell their friends and family and that's just not an option. Well, unless you're willing to deal with people's preconceived notions, stereotypes and so on.

Thanks again:-) It really is nice to have a forum where these subjects are discussed with judgment.
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Re: Starting out.
« Reply #3 on: 01 August 2014, 04:59:22 pm »
I have read both your posts and they seem to point to you thinking it is safer to work for an agency.  It is not.  No agency will give a shit if they send you someone who is renowned for not being nice or who other girls refuse to see as they are about making as much money as possible and girls come and go but clients tend to stay with the agency they prefer.
The client will always be more important than you are to the agency
You cannot vet any client if you work for an agency nor can you decide you don't want to see someone who has turned up as the agency just wouldn't send you any more work.
If you work for yourself you can advertise ONLY what you offer and not what an agency decide to put to get more clients which can lead to you being in terrible situations where a man demands something you don't offer because they agency said you do
You get a feel for clients on the phone so can work out if you want to see them or not.  You can do your own security checks for outcalls etc.  Agencies don't do any of this they just take every booking that comes in and sends them to you.  NO vetting goes on at all.

You will be safer working for yourself.  The money you would have paid to an agency you can pay someone to sit in your spare room to be a security buddy if it makes you feel safer (you would still be better off financially as agencys tend to take around 30% or more.
I am sure you know someone who is not in work who would be happy to be paid to sit and watch TV all day and to call the police if needed? 
Seriously do not be fooled that an agency will give a toss about your safety.  They don't.  Agencies just do not vet clients nor do they even check they are at the address you are being sent to.
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Re: Starting out.
« Reply #4 on: 01 August 2014, 05:19:44 pm »
Depending on the legal situation, you may prefer to start out working in a brothel/massage parlour. They're not guaranteed to be safe, but it's something. I think the learning curve for prostitution is very, very steep. I would tell any girl here in Manchester who wanted to start to give it a go at a parlour until she's feeling comfortable with the sex part and being assertive in the booking. But, that's probably because I worked at a massage parlour in the US for a number of years when I was younger and it was a positive experience.
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Re: Starting out.
« Reply #5 on: 01 August 2014, 08:39:02 pm »
I have been independent for decades & have also a lot of experience of a lot of different agencies.

Whilst you can't vet your clients from the agency, there is nothing to stop you kicking them out if you don't want to see them.  I have done that many a time & it has not affected any future work from the agency.  After all, it is they who are sending you the numpty in the first place.

An agency might get you on the radar but please get the notion that you are somehow safer with one; quite the reverse.
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