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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Lexilou on 09 March 2025, 02:39:38 pm
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I need to get my Prep prescribed, I mentioned it to my doctor (who doesn’t know of this occupation), and she gave a mumbled response along the lines of I don’t need it and being slightly unaware of its actual purpose. And I was too embarrassed to push her any further.
Is there any other way of getting it legitimately prescribed to me without going back to her and spelling it out to her in black and white.
I’m in Ireland so healthcare may be different to the UK, I’m not sure.
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I need to get my Prep prescribed, I mentioned it to my doctor (who doesn’t know of this occupation), and she gave a mumbled response along the lines of I don’t need it and being slightly unaware of its actual purpose. And I was too embarrassed to push her any further.
Is there any other way of getting it legitimately prescribed to me without going back to her and spelling it out to her in black and white.
I’m in Ireland so healthcare may be different to the UK, I’m not sure.
In England as far as I am aware Prep is prescribed by the GUM clinics, where do you go for STI/Sexual Health/GUM testing?
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I need to get my Prep prescribed, I mentioned it to my doctor (who doesn’t know of this occupation), and she gave a mumbled response along the lines of I don’t need it and being slightly unaware of its actual purpose. And I was too embarrassed to push her any further.
Is there any other way of getting it legitimately prescribed to me without going back to her and spelling it out to her in black and white.
I’m in Ireland so healthcare may be different to the UK, I’m not sure.
Well do you need PrEP? Unless you're having unprotected vaginal and anal sex with scores of random men I can't see why you would - it's expensive medication with unpleasant side effects and it seems a bit unlikely that your doctor doesn't know what it is, which is likely the reason she doesn't understand why you're asking for it.
If you're using condoms then it's not that likely that you fit the bill (and nor would you here in the UK); if you're not then I'd a) consider whether the health risks you're taking are worth it (and not just in terms of HIV but other far more common STIs which will lose you work, cost you money and possibly affect your partner) and b) see if you can get it privately? That's with the caveat that I'm not sure how private healthcare works in Ireland, although I'm more familiar with the public provision :)
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Thanks for the quick replies, as far as I’m aware our gum clinics here will only prescribe to treat something existing, and not anything that would require ongoing script like prep. I’ve only gathered that from what I’ve read online, but I’m actually in for tests next Friday so I can ask them then. We do actually have private health insurance, but again i’m not sure who I’d have to see in regard to it.
As for the reason, no I don’t currently do it unprotected, and don’t do any anal whatsoever. But am considering, (well, have kind of decided) to start offering bareback to some clients after being asked repeatedly, and offered double my normal rate. We have given it a lot of thought and are aware of the risks, but I don’t see a lot of clients, mostly regulars, and they’re all from the same kind of circle. It’s a very different industry over here lol
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Pick one of you have a actively bisexual boyfriend who doesn't use condoms with other men or you have an IV-drug using boyfriend or you have a boyfriend who does both.
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As for the reason, no I don’t currently do it unprotected, and don’t do any anal whatsoever. But am considering, (well, have kind of decided) to start offering bareback to some clients after being asked repeatedly, and offered double my normal rate. We have given it a lot of thought and are aware of the risks, but I don’t see a lot of clients, mostly regulars, and they’re all from the same kind of circle. It’s a very different industry over here lol
There are plenty of people here who have worked all over Ireland many times, me included (I think in 2012-13 I spent more time there than in the UK :D), and I don't even do OWO or reverse oral, let alone unprotected PIV.
If you want to offer this service that's totally your call (and I agree with xw5; claiming a non-monogamous relationship with a bi man ought to get you through the door), but don't let pestering punters try to bullshit you it's something 'everybody' does or that it's necessary to get business or make money, in Ireland or anywhere else. It really isn't.
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Also you say "we" have given it a lot of thought. I don't know if that is a typo but I don't think anyone else should be influencing you to make decisions regarding the services you are offering and the risks that you are taking with your health.
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Thanks for the quick replies, as far as I’m aware our gum clinics here will only prescribe to treat something existing, and not anything that would require ongoing script like prep. I’ve only gathered that from what I’ve read online, but I’m actually in for tests next Friday so I can ask them then. We do actually have private health insurance, but again i’m not sure who I’d have to see in regard to it.
As for the reason, no I don’t currently do it unprotected, and don’t do any anal whatsoever. But am considering, (well, have kind of decided) to start offering bareback to some clients after being asked repeatedly, and offered double my normal rate. We have given it a lot of thought and are aware of the risks, but I don’t see a lot of clients, mostly regulars, and they’re all from the same kind of circle. It’s a very different industry over here lol
The problem with same kind of circle is if the members of that circle as a having sex with others in the 'same kind of circle, might only take one person to contract an STI then everyone is linked or exposed. I noticed in other posts you say you aren't reliant on the income from your sex work, so what's driving this decision? Also if clients were seriously and repeatedly asking for bareback intercourse, I would be seriously considering replacing them.
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It’s not that they’re persistent or pressuring, My entire client base is lorry drivers, I no longer advertise so am not really subject to the typical type of punters. I did mean ‘we’, as I’m married so obviously it’s a subject that would affect both of us.
I see it as a way to double the profit by doing the same amount of work. The alternative is to start advertising again and engage with all the normal time wasting assholes, it would involve doing hotel work, double the amount of work, and an added risk of being found out. I live in rural west of Ireland.
As it is I only see a handful of clients, might be just 1 one week or 8/9 the next week. There’s zero time wasters, I know in advance what time I’m meeting them, where I’ve to go and what I’ll be wearing. It makes it very easy. I’m all too well aware of the possible risks, and I understand it’s not everyone’s preference but I’m ok with it. As long as I can take every other precaution, which is why I need to get on prep
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But you're not taking precautions, are you? PrEP won't stop you getting chlamydia, gonorrhoea or syphilis, and assuming you don't plan to continue offering unprotected PIV when you do, you likely won't actually have any more money.
Lorry drivers travel all over the country and beyond; if they're regularly having unprotected sex with prostitutes (and you obviously know they are, or you wouldn't be seeking out this treatment) then you're going to pick something up reasonably fast.
Plus if you're constantly on antibiotics (as well as the PrEP) from the same old dose being passed around this 'circle' (and if you keep giving it to your husband you'll just pass it back and forth) you're going to be feeling pretty rough most of the time - is it really worth it?
As for persistent, your first post said:
am considering, (well, have kind of decided) to start offering bareback to some clients after being asked repeatedly
That sounds persistent to me?
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Prep only protects you from HIV, you'll be at risk of all other STIs and HPV and genital herpes. It's probably easier to tell the nurse/healthcare worker that you are a sex worker that offers bare services, it's not illegal and they would then offer it to you. No one else apart from that clinic would know what you do.
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Girl don't do it! Double rate definitely doesn't cover the risks because you will constantly be out of work trying to cure different infections, there are around 2 dozens of them.
Plus you will be killing your kidneys with the Prep.
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You're also seriously risking messing up your ph balance
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So in case anyone is interested, I asked at the GUM clinic today at my checkup. They can prescribe it for me for 6 months. After that it has to be taken over by my GP, they can provide a referral for it to my GP and ask them to continue prescribing. So at that point my doctor is obviously going to know the full story.
So I’ve gone ahead with it, I’m going to try it for the 6 months.
I completely understand it’s not everyone’s cup of tea and I hope it doesn’t affect anyone’s opinion of me or offering any other advice if I need it.
I don’t have anyone really that I can talk to about this other than my husband, and obviously there are certain things I can’t really talk to him about.
I’d like to hear from anyone that is or has been on prep, and dealing with side effects etc.
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I don't think it's a wise decision but I think it's your body so ultimately your choice. At the end of the day I offer CIM amd swallow which I'm sure lots of people with think is "gross".
I have caught oral gonorrhea and oral chlamydia bit I still offer those services because they make me money. I know lots of my clients only book me because of those services so I consider it an acceptable risk.
I would just make sure you get tested as often as possible and you husband too. And be prepared to catch the bacterial STIs which are very common. I would imagine lorry drivers to be quite high risk IMO.
Good luck xx
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I've worked as a manager in transport companies for a long time. I'll tell you, truck drivers will literally stick their dicks in any orifice they can find (some more than others). Of all the professions out there, they're the ones I'd least trust when it comes to sexual health because they literally don't care about fucking anything. They would fuck a broom with a wig if they could.
I'd really rather advertise again and ask for deposits from new clients to ensure they're serious. Because at the end of the day, you'll be the one suffering the consequences of that heavy medication, sexually transmitted infections, and probably problems with your partner over a handful of pounds.
By the way, the more infections you have and the more antibiotics you have to take to treat them, the less effective those antibiotics will be against infections of any kind in the future. This can literally damage your health and increase the chance of dying from an infection that's resistant to all the antibiotics you'll have to take.
If you're aware of all this and still want to go ahead, it's your body and it's your choice.
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Folks, the OP has resolutely ignored every poster who's pointed out that she'll likely spend many weeks of the year either on antibiotics or with the clap (or worse) presumably because she plans to keep working regardless, although who knows. All the rest of us can do is protect ourselves whichever way suits us.
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I don’t have anyone really that I can talk to about this other than my husband, and obviously there are certain things I can’t really talk to him about.
Can I just ask if I'm reading this wrong
Are you saying that although your husband knows what you do he doesn't know you plan to go on prep and do Bareback bookings?
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Can I just ask if I'm reading this wrong
Are you saying that although your husband knows what you do he doesn't know you plan to go on prep and do Bareback bookings?
No he does know. We’ve discussed it at length.
What I meant was other aspects of the job. There are things I obviously am not going to have a discussion about with my husband.
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Folks, the OP has resolutely ignored every poster who's pointed out that she'll likely spend many weeks of the year either on antibiotics or with the clap (or worse) presumably because she plans to keep working regardless, although who knows. All the rest of us can do is protect ourselves whichever way suits us.
Ah I see, if someone’s life or the way they live it doesn’t suit you, it gives you the right to be condescending. Must remember that one, thanks Amy. Also you’ll see I never asked for advice on whether to offer bb or not. My question was purely about prep. But good to see your reading and retention skills are as sharp as your foresight and fortune telling.
Thank you everyone else that commented in a non condescending manner.
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It is not 'condescending' to post that you have not addressed the points made by several other posters that you won't earn the extra money you give as your reason if you constantly catch other STIs. We suggest you do not make further comments attempting to insult other posters whether they are admins or not.
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Yes, I obviously know nothing - I've been in business for almost twenty five years and earn a good living without putting my health or that of others at any significant risk, and without compromising my safety and comfort any more than is unavoidable. I see now that I'd have been better off spending that time shagging truckers in some layby 🤣
I've been on SAAFE for seventeen of those years, and if you read my post again you'll see I was moving the thread along so somebody who did have the sort of information you were after could hopefully get a word in, since you weren't interested in any other responses beyond what you wanted to hear. Unfortunately that isn't how discussion works; people are trying to be helpful.
My supposed lack of reading and comprehension skills don't seem to have done me any harm, all things considered. As for yours, if you're going to try to be condescending, it helps an awful lot to be in a position from which to condescend.
Now we're getting back on topic. If anybody has information about getting PrEP in Ireland, and ONLY about getting PrEP in Ireland, your moment has arrived. Any other posts will be removed, as per the OP's wishes.
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Just to update anyone interested. I’ve started offering it this week. Had my first bb client this morning and one booked for late tonight. Not all clients are interested in it. Some are happy with the same protected service.
I’ve arranged to have my screening done fortnightly from now on, and just to put Amy’s mind at rest, no I don’t intend on working through if I catch something. And I will be sure to keep anyone interested updated if I catch anything.
If I’m honest for some reason I quite enjoyed the booking this morning, something about it being wrong I guess, but I did actually really enjoy it.
I appreciate the heavy handed advice, but as I said I am not going into this blind or naive. I’m fully aware of all possibilities.
During the week I was looking through AW uk and there’s a lot of uk girls offering it too, British girls too, so I can only guess that there are girls on here offering it but to afraid to admit it for fear of the backlash.
Anyways I’ll keep you updated
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Did you manage to get your Prep in Ireland ?
Do you get tested for all of more than a dozen infections and bacteria like HPV, mycoplasma, etc ?
Do you realise that HIV can take 6 months to show in the test? So you WILL continue to work if infected.
I once had a client who stopped seeing his regular because she was going to start offering bareback penetration. Careful guys stopped seeing her.
Admins, please don't remove my post. This thread has a chance to turn into bareback propaganda. Something like: "I have barebacked a hundred guys, made a million pounds and still got no infection"(because only tested for 3 or 4 main infections every 2 weeks)
And it affects all of us because the girls like her, they spread all they get.
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Just to update anyone interested. I’ve started offering it this week. Had my first bb client this morning and one booked for late tonight. Not all clients are interested in it. Some are happy with the same protected service.
I’ve arranged to have my screening done fortnightly from now on, and just to put Amy’s mind at rest, no I don’t intend on working through if I catch something. And I will be sure to keep anyone interested updated if I catch anything.
If I’m honest for some reason I quite enjoyed the booking this morning, something about it being wrong I guess, but I did actually really enjoy it.
I appreciate the heavy handed advice, but as I said I am not going into this blind or naive. I’m fully aware of all possibilities.
During the week I was looking through AW uk and there’s a lot of uk girls offering it too, British girls too, so I can only guess that there are girls on here offering it but to afraid to admit it for fear of the backlash.
Anyways I’ll keep you updated
I did wonder how many would follow through, particularly with a higher or extra fee.
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During the week I was looking through AW uk and there’s a lot of uk girls offering it too, British girls too, so I can only guess that there are girls on here offering it but to afraid to admit it for fear of the backlash.
Yes, but your post was about the difficulty in getting PrEP in Ireland, not about who offers bareback.
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Yes, but your post was about the difficulty in getting PrEP in Ireland, not about who offers bareback.
Indeed it was, and since it's been bumped I'll just reiterate that's the thread topic. Most people who have been here longer than a couple of weeks will know we've had threads and posts from women who offer all conceivable services and none of that is anything to do with this.
For the record, I don't care what anybody else does. I have no reason to - I don't offer any unprotected services and most of the complaints on here in previous similar threads have been from people offering OWO, who could easily just use a condom if they were that concerned about STIs rather than trying to tell other adults what to do.
Most people are not prostitutes or punters and the majority will be having unprotected oral, vaginal and/or anal sex with one or more other people at least some of the time, none of it any my business, or of any interest to me whatsoever.
Now if anyone thinks further posts are necessary we're gettting back on topic, me included.
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Did you manage to get your Prep in Ireland ?
Do you get tested for all of more than a dozen infections and bacteria like HPV, mycoplasma, etc ?
Do you realise that HIV can take 6 months to show in the test? So you WILL continue to work if infected.
I once had a client who stopped seeing his regular because she was going to start offering bareback penetration. Careful guys stopped seeing her.
Admins, please don't remove my post. This thread has a chance to turn into bareback propaganda. Something like: "I have barebacked a hundred guys, made a million pounds and still got no infection"(because only tested for 3 or 4 main infections every 2 weeks)
And it affects all of us because the girls like her, they spread all they get.
I don’t really want to continue bumping the thread as it has somewhat moved away from the initial point. But seen as your afraid it might turn into a propaganda thread that doesn’t align with your own values I’ll address your questions.
Yes I will be screened for everything, the clinic are fully aware of my situation. All infections except hiv will show up immediately, most of them with symptoms. But all will show up in screening.
And to address the hiv, here are the facts. Actual facts based on medical journals and tests. For a female not on prep, having unprotected vaginal sex with a hiv male, the risk is 0.08% (8 in 10000)
A female on prep having sex with a hiv male the risk is 0.0008% (1 in 1250000)
Those stats are all based on the infected male not being on ART. Which would be highly unlikely, as anyone who’s aware they’re positive will obviously be on ART. If the male is on ART and the female on prep, then the transmission risk is 0% there has never been a recorded case of transmission.
And let’s say I am terribly unlucky and fall against the odds of less than one in 1.2 million, and do contract it, and please don’t attack this next statement as I’m only quoting it as it is a fact… it is not the death sentence it once used to be. With treatment it has zero effect on your health or life expectancy. And with treatment ART your chances of transmitting it to another partner are the same as those quoted above.
Also “girls like her” what exactly type of girl am I? You seem to know a lot about me from one single post. Talk about judgemental.
I get it girls, this is an anti bb group, and you’re all against it under the guise of it being such a risk and such a death sentence. But not one of you were able to provide me with and actual statistics on it. As I said I’m not going into it blind or naive. I’m not stupid or slow.
I’m not trying to have an argument about it, (although I have been forced to defend myself) if you don’t agree with it that’s fine. But you can’t control any industry sex work or otherwise to make it fit your personal preferences.
The post was looking for help in getting prep, help that nobody was actually able to offer. So I won’t ask anything around the topic again.
Thanks x
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This is not an anti anything 'group'. The people here are a diverse community of individual sex workers who can very much think for themselves and are posting their views; just because the majority would not make the same choices as you doesn't mean that there is some kind of hive mind or big conspiracy going on. We don't know who you are, we're not interested in what kind of sex you're having and the Me So Edgy stuff is getting old now.
What we are here to do is try to help newbies work as safely and profitably as they can, and part of that is picking up on variables they might have missed or not thought about. The combined experience of the people here runs into hundreds of years, and we were all new once (I did offer OWO when I first started, not because I wanted to but because I didn't realise condoms could also be used for blow jobs).
You don't want to hear any view that differs from yours and as we're all agreed that the thread doesn't need bumping again, it's locked.