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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Jessiegirl on 21 January 2021, 04:17:24 pm
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One of my clients has asked for a threesome with a bi guy. I said fine. I don't know anyone up for it so he suggested a male escort which I was fine with. He wants to watch the male escort have sex with me first.
Now that I've thought about it a bit more the escort is getting it for free with me plus getting paid by my client.
Has anyone done this before and how do you work out what should be charged. Should I charge the escort.
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Yes, I've done scenes with duo and multi males. I normally charge double. Or for multi males, which you need more time for- a fat lump sum that covers several hours, so whatever we do I'm paid, chilled and not concerned with penny counting.
I'd charge the client a duo fee, for 2 people.
Whatever fee arrangement he has with the 'spare cock' is their business. Not your concern.
Ignore that the mystery cock is 'supposedly an escort', he could be his best mate for all you know. Whatever the reality I agree, giving free fucks isn't professional.
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If the male escort is a professional like you, I assume he'd see having sex with you as part of his job, for which he's getting paid by your client, i.e. it would be a bit bizarre to charge him. You just need to make sure you're happy with your fee.
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I agree Kay. And just a side thought- if he's a professional I ask the client for his profile/website to check if he's the kind of person I want to interact with.
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If the client wants to involve another guy then he should be paying you the extra for your interaction with him, if the other guy really is an escort and he has to pay him a fee too that's his problem not yours. Why should he get his fantasy at your expense?
Special scenarios cost and if that's what he wants to see then he's going to have to pay for it.
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So he has found two male escorts on AW who are both happy to do the job. I haven't checked them out yet but will if i decide to go ahead with this.
I will mention that I want double rate for this. Thanks for advice on this as I never even considered charging double.
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:) hope it goes well Jessie!
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He's come back saying he can't afford double rate. He's happy to watch and wank. I think that seems fair. I think he has a bit of a complex about the size of his cock and keeps saying he wants a guy with a fair sized cock to satisfy me. I'm happy with that.
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If you're totally happy with the fee, cool.
If the deal is he's a voyeur who doesn't participate in activity and penetration with you...and he sticks to that agreement without wriggling out of it in the session, cool also.
It's your choices and what you feel comfortable with.
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Initially he wanted to watch but then join in with us both. He says he's happy to watch and wank but I guess I need to remind him on the day as sometimes our best plans go out of the window in the heat of the moment.
He wants time to play with the male escort so I can take time out then and leave them to it or maybe watch.
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I guess I need to remind him on the day as sometimes our best plans go out of the window in the heat of the moment
Yes, I suspect you'll need to do that more than once.
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He wants time to play with the male escort so I can take time out then and leave them to it or maybe watch.
Slightly OT but I always cringe at the term "play with" - just brings to mind taking my son on play dates, I always get a mental picture of the client sitting in a sandpit building sandcastles whilst wearing shorts and velcro trainers :D
I do hope it goes okay Jessie. I get asked for MMF quite a lot but I've never felt comfortable with it. I did once have a completely spontaneous one with my ex-FWB and a client and it was fun. Maybe I need to cultivate a new FWB as I don't think any of my regulars would be up for it.
BTW is this the same regular who wanted the shower sex? If so it sounds like he has a whole fantasy wank bank he wants to work his way through!
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A phrase that springs to mind is, 'Champagne appetite on a beer budget'. When a fantasy is modified like this due to financial restraints the punter can set himself up for disappointment. Usually they offload the blame and resentment onto the provider(s).
You know him already, so if you predict him doing a bit of emotional blackmail for unpaid services at the gig...you're probably right.
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No he wouldn't do anything bad or disrespectful and never have. Yes its the same guy wanting shower sex. He does come up with all those fantasies and I've managed to do a couple of them.A lot of the time once he's here it all goes out the window and we end up doing what we normally do.
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As your client has suggested a male escort of his choice; I would be charging him for an MMF (i.e. the price you would charge for a 2 guy booking). It's no different than if he invited his mate along.
The client will therefore be paying the 2-guy rate to you, and the male escort will be paying nothing (and possibly be receiving a payment of his own through the client). That's fine, you're still getting paid for two blokes. Don't absorb the costs, or charge any rate, to the male escort. Payment is the client's job; the male escort is a third party like you are.
Charge the client fully for 2 guys, at a rate that will make you comfortable and happy within the booking. It's what he expects and has asked for.
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Did this before, just charge what your comfortable with make sure you find out the male escorts profile also (you'd need to screen both him just as much as the client) then go for it. I actually did a few bookings after with the other escort afterwards so it was worth it :)
Hope you have good time and all goes well.
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Did this before, just charge what your comfortable with make sure you find out the male escorts profile also (you'd need to screen both him just as much as the client) then go for it. I actually did a few bookings after with the other escort afterwards so it was worth it :)
Hope you have good time and all goes well.
Hi thanks. I've not worked with male escorts before but in the past some have contacted me and I get the impression they are after free sex and some come across as if they are sex gods.
Maybe I'm wrong we shall see. Yes I will definitely vet these escorts before I agree anything.
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As your client has suggested a male escort of his choice; I would be charging him for an MMF (i.e. the price you would charge for a 2 guy booking). It's no different than if he invited his mate along.
I agree with this ^ If I was seeing two men at the same time I would definitely be wanting a MMF rate, regardless of who the second bloke is (escort, clients friend etc)
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Even if my client just watches.Seems a bit harsh.
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Even if my client just watches.Seems a bit harsh.
I would- I have a guy who just books to watch me masturbate with toys while he he plays with himself, he pays full rates.
Just remembered your dude is a good regular, so if you guys have come to a happy agreement then that's the main thing :)
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Even if my client just watches.Seems a bit harsh.
It's not harsh at all. You are facilitating his enjoyment of watching you with this other guy and also allowing him a safe space to engage with the guy too if he so wishes. Also bear in mind that if this other guy is a young male escort then chances are he will maybe be going at it a damn sight harder than the client may have done, feeling he has to put on a good performance so to speak and quite likely for his own pleasure.
Even if the client doesn't have sex with you he is still going to get off on the voyeurism.
Otherwise it's almost the same as some random guy saying " Well he's already paying you to have sex with him so can I just come in and watch and wank for free?" Can't imagine many of us would allow that.
It's over and above what he would be getting in a normal booking so why should he be paying your normal flat rate?
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Even if my client just watches.Seems a bit harsh.
It's not harsh at all - this man is occupying your space and watching you have sex which means you've got to keep up the performance the entire time (so no checking your cuticles or yawning or whatever); I'd find it much harder work having to play to an audience. Either way (and as posted above) you're essentially having sex with two random men instead of one and I would be charging (the punter, not the 'male escort') accordingly.
As everybody else has said, if he wants this sort of a service he's going to have to learn that he has to pay for it.
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Thanks everyone for asking for double money. I got it and had the most amazing night for a while. I chatted to the male escort Geoff before confirming the booking. He had a lovely deep sexy voice and chatted for about half an hour. Checked his profile and had a lovely body and cock but more importantly i felt we really got on over the phone too.
He turned up with champers and chocolates which was so sweet. Our client was running late so had a glass whilst we chatted.
Let's just say Geoff knew what he was doing and i totally forgot about my client for twenty mins. Kind of ending up being spontaneous, everyone happy. Client left then finished off the bubbly with Geoff and spent the rest of the night chatting. Agreed to do more thresholds but also with women as he has a couple who are bi curious. Left me on a bit of a high.
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Thank cod for that Jessie. Stood your ground, got the cash, got the good feels and you left happy.
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That sounds amazing and now I'm dead envious!
Maybe you and Geoff can come to an arrangement about doing MMF duos in the future!
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Hi yes we already have plus MFF for female clients as I'm Bi.
It's the first time with two guys as an escort and really loved it.
Also I'm so chuffed with myself asking for double money as was dreading asking him.
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This is great! So glad it went well :D
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So pleased that you got the extra cash out of him and an enjoyable evening too .. win win!
Your client will now realise that you're not a push over to get his fantisies realised on the cheap.
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Thanks all. It's funny how they suddenly come up with the money they supposedly never had. He's now asked for a foursome for the future. Lol
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Well done Jessie, so pleased for you! Well done you for getting the money you deserved.
Yes they all have the cash, and know full well what your time should cost. Don't let anyone pretend otherwise. It's a game; they'll pay you willingly if you know your own worth.