The big scam agency thread

[amy]

'Listed' and 'being investigated' by whom, LL? Can you elaborate a bit - is this something to do with the Suffolk Trading Standards post above?

[Lady_Lust_XXX]

Yes Amy, thanks for joining up with other thread, did not see it.     Didn't want anyone to fall foul and lose money.

[bigted]

Hey. I signed up with ideal escorts and recently cancelled (male escort). They are still trying to get monthly membership payments and when I tried to contact them there was no response . In my opinion they are complete frauds. Stay away.

[Siren999]

Mrs h...
I have had dealings with the company and I unfortunately spoke to someone who I took to be genuine and real. I was completely suckered in by her niceness and paid the fee. I have never receieved a booking and obviously lost my money. I think yourself and anyone else you may know of....or anyone else who has paid or been asked to pay, ralley together and get it dealt with. Enough is enough. And anyone else who is experiencing what I am will feel the same. Please email me direct ladies it's fairybabe004@hotmail.com
We will try as a group to put the pressure on and see where it gets us. I also think its worth bringing some of the scams to the surface using one front man and annonomous back up. Someone like watch dog or an ombudsman. Email me please.
X

[Siren999]

Please email me. This needs to be tackled! Read my first post. Time to organise something! Hope to hear from you guys soon x

[amy]

Please email me. This needs to be tackled! Read my first post. Time to organise something! Hope to hear from you guys soon x

Siren, this is being tackled already by Suffolk Trading Standards (and quite possibly others), as you will see if you read a couple of posts a little way up the thread, originating from this request for information here. However, if people are still determined to throw their money at total strangers and random companies on the strength of a telephone sales pitch and without doing any checking beforehand, there's little anybody can do to stop them, and that is how these operations have been going for so long.

I suggest you contact STS if you wish to help in any continuing action against the scammers. As ever, SAAFE do not recommend anybody sends personal details or any possibly identifying information to random people from the internet.

[NewGirlHere]

Elegant International escort agency posted their ad on ozadz.com few days ago offering well paid jobs for escorts. called them up, they booked me for overnight appointment, said client pays 5000, and i get 4000 the next morning in their office in central london. I am totally new to the industry, and now realise how stupid i was. the next morning when i was on my way to the office ''the boss'' texted me saying police has raided the agency and they can not pay the fees. please someone help me! i don't know what to do and how to get the bastard. please

[Dani]

Do they actually have an office?  Have you been there before?  If not I do not know what you can do.  This is unfortunately one of the many scams around and there are lots of different varieties but they all end up with a girl having sex and not getting her money the next day or later the same day.  I am sorry you got caught out but please always remember one thing.......
If it sounds too good to be true then it is.  ?5000 for one night?  I am sorry but just about no one gets that sort of money especially someone who has not built a great reputation and even loads who have still get nowhere near that.

Put it behind you and remember one other thing.  NO PAY = NO PLAY.  Money upfront all the way. 

I know the thought of all that money probably seemed to good to resist but they rely on others greed (we all suffer from greed in one way or another) to get the better of them, so they do not bother doing checks as the pound signs are just too good.

Never allow anyone to touch you before payment has been made.  Also read through the main site and then read it again as it has lots of info you will find helpful if just starting out.

[Ramo]

Agency no92 escorts - thought I'd warn ppl about this agency - I know someone brought it up before, after my email convo - def a scam - here convo for you to see. 


What is your problem??

you've said your bit and I, mine.  Go away!!

> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:33:18 -0500
> From: info@no92escorts.co.uk
> Subject: RE:
>
>
> Yawnnnnnnnn
>
>
> Quoting Matthew:
>
> >
> > Hi Astrid,
> > If you heard it all before then you know the game and how the
> > industry works. Thank you for your reply, most appreciated and
> > shows how very unprofessional you are! An agency I would not like to
> > work for.
> > Regards
> > Matthew
> >> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:31:58 -0500
> >> From: info@no92escorts.co.uk
> >> Subject: RE:
> >>
> >>
> >> Yawnnn, I have heard it all before.
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Matthew [removed]:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi Astrid,If it requires paying fees up front, then I will not be
> >> > registering, as an agency you should be making money of the client
> >> > and not your workers. i am happy to pay commission once the job is
> >> > done or registering fees after the first job but that is all. I hope
> >> > this does not cause an inconveniences.RegardsMatthew
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 06:51:04 -0500
> >> >> From: info@no92escorts.co.uk
> >> >> Subject:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi
> >> >> We had a client asking to hire you.
> >> >> I can only give your contact details if you are a full member.
> >> >> Do you intend on registering with our agency?
> >> >> Regards
> >> >> Astrid XXX
> >> >> www. no92escorts.co.uk
> >> >> 08724261304



And btw - have found this thread very helpful

[Hazel_67]

Hi girls,

I'm considering joining an escorting company called premiere events.  I recieved a phone call tday after initally contacting them mainly out of cuirosity.  I am very new to this so I'm very unsure as to how it all works, the girl I spoke to has assured me that I have several matches in my area after I answered all of her questions however she then went on to explain that I pay a membership fee of ?300 for 3 months minimum and so it increases for 6 months to 9 months membership. 

I would really appreciate a bit of advice as I'm unsure of the protocol with escorting agencies, is this the norm? I am a student who is struggling for money so ?300 is alot to me at the moment and I'm terrified of paying this noney and I dont get any jobs? The lady I spoke to assured my she could have me booked out this weekend and its double time as well because it is a bank holiday however it all seems to good to be true and I cant help but thinking how many other girls are promised unlimited opportunitys to earn money and once they have paid their intial ?300 can be left high and dry so to speak? the agency is called premiere events and its a members only website from what i can gather.

Any advice or information would be really appreciated xx

[River]

Hi Hazel.
Real world agencies get a cut from the fee paid to you by the client.
After you have been paid in full by the client, and done the escort job
(in that order  )  you pay the agreed % of the fee, to the agency.

Where they ask for an up front fee there is no job, they make their money from you.
It is 100% a scam.
You pay and never ever get a job.
Or hear from them again.

[Hazel_67]

Hi Jodie,

I appreciate your advice thanks, I thought it seemed to good to be true, I had a look on heir website however you need to be a member to see any real information.

So basically the set up is all wrong? And for someone as in-expeienced as myself this is too tempting, I'm glad I investigated before handing over my cash as I was seriously thinking about it!
Do you have any advice as to telling which agencies are a scam or not? I take it I shouldnt be paying for anything upfront? xx

[amy]

Hazel, if you read the rest of this (lengthy) thread there is a lot of information, plus a comprehensive article on the main SAAFE site.

Basically if they want you to give them money before you have met any clients and been paid by them, it's a scam. If you are seriously considering beginning sex work, the main site articles are by far the best way to start equipping yourself.

[Hazel_67]

Thanks Amy x

[River]

I appreciate your advice thanks, I thought it seemed to good to be true, I had a look on heir website
however you need to be a member to see any real information.
So basically the set up is all wrong?

Do you have any advice as to telling which agencies are a scam or not?
I take it I shouldnt be paying for anything upfront? xx

Hiya Hazel.
I had a guess when googling the name and found an agency
which had details of the escorts hidden unless you join.
I guessed it was the one you were talking about.

How to spot a scam escort agency
These are agencies who scam money off escorts or wannabe-escorts.
Rather than connecting escorts with clients and subsequently being paid a % of the fee,
they manipulate the escort into parting with money under the guise of:
Registration fee, Marketing/advertising fee, Admin fee.

There are some major red flags:
1 The website requires people to register before they can see details of the escorts.
Why on earth would any legitimate Escort agency put up a barrier between the client and the escort? No punter will join just to look at the escort details; why would they when they can peruse any number of legitimate agencies* where escorts are readily available?
Reason ? The site is not for potential clients, it's target is wannabe escorts.

2 Their website does not promote / feature / display specific escorts they supposedly have on their books,
to potential clients.
Which for any legitimate agency* is where the only money comes from.
Instead the websites of scam agency's are mainly slanted towards people joining them as escorts,
often hinting that 'no experience is necessary' or 'newcomers welcome'
Inducing people to become prozzies is illegal in uk law, but this is ironically one law they are not breaking --- BECAUSE THERE ARE NO ACTUAL CLIENTS.
other than you, the escort or as they describe you in all good con rackets: 'The Mark'

3 They request you to pay an UP FRONT REGISTRATION FEE.
Which is actually the only money involved in the whole cycle.
Not good as it's your money.

4 You are specifically NOT EXPECTED NOR REQUIRED TO HAVE SEX WITH THE CLIENTS, EVER.
"All our up-market professional clients seek an engaging Companion for social engagements, such as the theatre, a meal, or a work function.
- Escorts who suck willies also do social engagements too.
Why would a client book a 'no-sex' escort when he can hire any escort, have the same fun social experience
 And still have the option of sex with her later, if he fancies it?
The market for no-sex escorts is almost non-existent.
 If you want to be an escort you will suck willy's 99% of the time ? FACT!



*Legitimate in as far as they advertise escorts and arrange for the escort chosen by the client to visit him, for a % of the fee. In legal terms, this is illegal but only the agency is breaking the law.

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Other than this, I'd suggest you take a look over the threads here, using the Search facility to look up "agencies", "scams" and "starting out"
The site specifically prohibits agencies being promoted or recommended in forum posts,
basically because the are illegal operations. But various members may recommend agencies to you via PM's.
Oh, I forgot to mention, the site has an awesome main page with a tab marked:
Information for Escorts This is probably the best place to look at.

I hope that helps a little.