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Miss Moneypenny

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Does a website outing escort's real identities exist?
« on: 11 January 2013, 12:08:46 pm »
Without trying to scaremonger, I have already tried to answer this question with a bit of googling, and so far I haven't found anything.

The reason why I'm asking is because a friend went for a an interview with a large, long-established agency that appeared to be well run. They asked her to bring in two forms of ID to prove her date of birth and address, which I think a few agencies seem to do these days. A lot of the 'better' establishments do this to prove to police that no girls on their books are underage and that they are entitled to work in the UK. I also think this is to make sure all fees are paid into them, but they mentioned something else to her that worries me.

They said that if a girl was caught poaching clients, they would use the copies of ID and publish their real identities online, and they would only be taken down when the girl paid in what the agency estimated to be their loss of commission. My mate asked them what the website was called, but the owner wouldn't tell her.

I suspect they are just saying this to deter girls from nicking clients and cutting them out, but they said they bought it into force just over a year ago and it works - their lines are busier because the girls have such a strong threat hanging over them. Does anyone know if there is any truth in this claim?

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Re: Does a website outing escort's real identities exist?
« Reply #1 on: 11 January 2013, 12:13:38 pm »
Not sure but I would think it a bit rich for a bunch of pimps agency to do anything that malicious. It'd also be incredibly stupid, it would only take one or two seriously pissed off girls I?m sure to get the police involved and that?s the last sort of attention these sorts of operations need.

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Re: Does a website outing escort's real identities exist?
« Reply #2 on: 11 January 2013, 12:31:40 pm »
I think there'd be a lot of problems keeping such a website hosted. Sounds like a bluff.

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Re: Does a website outing escort's real identities exist?
« Reply #3 on: 11 January 2013, 12:38:10 pm »
Sounds dodgy to me too.  If the police got involved they'd be done for blackmail.
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Re: Does a website outing escort's real identities exist?
« Reply #4 on: 11 January 2013, 01:40:56 pm »
Never heard of a website like that.  Although I do know of an agency that put up pictures of girls who left under bad terms on lamp posts near their home addresses.  And they got into trouble for it.

I know all businesses need rules and structure to run smoothy, but that in my mind is a threat and I wouldnt work for someone like that.  Hopefully your friend will reseach more agencies before deciding which one to work with and begin work with someone other than that agency. 

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Re: Does a website outing escort's real identities exist?
« Reply #5 on: 11 January 2013, 02:14:51 pm »
I agree with the other girls. It is highly unlikely that an agency would do this. 1. They risk their reputation 2. The police could charge them for blackmail 3. It's PROOF that they were controlling prostitutes for gain, not something that the police are likely to ignore.

MoneyPenny, any chance you could put a warning (if you know the name of it) in the warnings section, or ask your friend to do it? Agencies should not be threatening girls with that kind of behaviour.

No wg should ever work for an agency like that in my opinion.

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Re: Does a website outing escort's real identities exist?
« Reply #6 on: 11 January 2013, 04:03:29 pm »
My first reaction was they are blagging it, no such site exists and the more I think about it it must be right.

As it stands we cannot list timewasters name and number online in full because of the Data Protection Act so surely we would be covered by  that too. 

What do others think?
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Re: Does a website outing escort's real identities exist?
« Reply #7 on: 11 January 2013, 04:30:57 pm »
I totally agree re giving them a wide berth and outing them for being such tossers.  Ive never dealt with an agency or parlour so have no experience I can draw on.

Thanks for the DPA info though.
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Re: Does a website outing escort's real identities exist?
« Reply #8 on: 11 January 2013, 04:32:33 pm »
This also occurs to me;

A website is only of use if people look at it, and for people to look at it they've got to be able to find it, and none of us have ever found anything remotely similar to what has been suggested...

Even IF this Agency had this website and even IF they plastered the pictures and names of client stealing girls all over it it's no real concern if no-one ever looks at the site. They might as well say they write the names of the 'naughty' girls down on a sheet of paper and keep it in their desk drawer for all the threat it holds.

On a slightly different note, and my opinion of Agencies notwithstanding, why would anyone want to work for a company which is not only illegal but actually threatens their prospective Employers (NOT employees!) with something illegal at the first interview. Is that really the sort of people you want to be able to rely on to look after your health and safety and to act honourably when it comes to financial matters? For them to say their lines are busier because of the the way they threaten girls is madness - it's hardly the kind of thing an Agent would have to boast about and surely it would raise a question in the mind of the most woolly headed punter!

I'm afraid I think the whole notion of a public site where girls are named and shamed is crap. Even if I wanted to work for an Agency no way would they get a copy of my id either. If I was absolutely DESPERATE to work for them I might show them my passport with my picture and date of birth showing and my real name blacked out to prove I was overage and a UK Citizen, but that would be the full extent of the info they got.

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Re: Does a website outing escort's real identities exist?
« Reply #9 on: 11 January 2013, 04:33:05 pm »
My first reaction was they are blagging it, no such site exists and the more I think about it it must be right.

As it stands we cannot list timewasters name and number online in full because of the Data Protection Act so surely we would be covered by  that too. 

What do others think?

We can't list their numbers as if anything serious did happen it would compromise any legal proceedings if such a situation ever arose. The DPA is notoriously complex and interpreting it isn't the easiest thing for anyone to do.

Sites outing women do exist and they aren't very nice and the women have to pay a fee to have their image removed (US mugshot style).

I agree with casey kisses, the mere hint of such appalling behaviour from an agency and I'd run a mile and ut a warning on here.

Sites 'outing' all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons exist, and whilst this would be truly diabolical behaviour from an agency, it's nothing more than I'd expect in terms of worst case scenario and yet another good reason not to employ one. For this reason if no other, the way round it is to make sure that nobody ever gets hold of your personal details - in terms of the OP, blackmail is extremely illegal and I would strongly suspect this one's a particularly stupid bluff.

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Re: Does a website outing escort's real identities exist?
« Reply #10 on: 11 January 2013, 08:42:22 pm »
This is absolutely disgusting, and I know some agencies are very happy to go around ruining girls lives, even if they've done nothing wrong. If agencies are worried about the paying of commission then they should request the escort deposits it before it gets above a certain amount. They ask for personal details so they can threaten their escorts, no decent agency would ever ask. I would accept showing a form of photographic ID to prove date of birth, but obscuring the real name. The agencies I work for don't know, nor do they want to know, my real name. I've heard of agencies (and seen) that escort agencies get an escorts real name + escort as a suggestion on search engines (so when you type in her name on google top of the suggestions are eg. When you type in Jane Smith up will come 'Jane Smith Escort', and then a link to her escort page). A paranoid agency were convinced an escort had pinched a client, even though she hadn't, and did this to her. I've heard of agencies reporting escorts to HMRC (one did to me, they investigated me for 18months, but due to me declaring my earnings they found nothing, but still made me feel guilty and it was horrible), sometimes the inland revenue are more lenient on agencies who point them in the direction of their escorts, who many of aren't declaring.

Tell your friend to steer clear of these pimps and to find a better run agency. I am happy to PM suggestions of ones I know are well run.

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Re: Does a website outing escort's real identities exist?
« Reply #11 on: 12 January 2013, 08:22:04 am »
Not being funny but to me it sounds like extortion.  I would most certainly not sign up to an agency like that who would stoop that low.  And who knows what else they will do with your information once you are on their books.