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MissElvira

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After a incident with a guy using some numbing cream on his penis, Which I posted about already, I've been thinking of only doing OW but I'm concerned this will cause less views of my profile and less work. But i charge a rate taking into account OWO so should i lower my rate to make up for not offering OWO. I've read the thread on the risks of OWO so I don't need to get advice on that. A majority of guys want this service and the way guys moan about condoms causing them to droop . Luckily I've not come across poor hygiene but the situation with the numb lips from that booking got me worried.  But then I wondered if some guys are more attracted to those not offering OWO because they feel safer, Just like avoiding profile that offer bareback.

so be good to hear if anyone had problems going from offering owo to just ow and did you have to go down on rates, Which I wouldn't mind if I took owo off my services. Technically a genuine girlfriend experience is OWO right?. I dont want to put OWO at discretion because I think guys take that as you will unless they don't wash.

Did anyone find that just a different kind of clients replaced those that only want OWO. I've only had two guys insist on OW and I can't say I enjoy sucking on a condom.

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Why would you lower your rate? You're not offering less of a service, just a different one (and plenty of girlfriends a) don't do blow jobs at all, and b) don't use condoms for shagging - we've had threads posted by newbies who have had boundary pushing punters insist that GFE=bareback). There are no 'types' of punters (or at least none that can be defined by the services they want/don't want) at least in my experience, and I stopped offering OWO over ten years ago and RO in 2013, I think.

You only think that 'most' punters want OWO because you offer it. If you don't then you get the ones who don't (for reasons you've given as well as others) plus the vast majority who don't really care :).

MissElvira

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Thanks Amy and sorry for posting this topic as it's already been covered loads and I've been through the other threads today so have made my mind up to now only do OW, Like most I'm worried it will mean less work but from reading on the past discussion it's not always the case. And think like most jobs you evolve to benefit yourself and attract those that want what's on offer. My health is top priority and I didn't even think about Heb B. I've only been tested for vaginal STDs and today ordered a oral swap to put my mind at ease as I've educated myself on what can be caught orally, Never too old to be nieve I guess. I'm interested to see how taking owo will, If at all change my earning potential and i may even attract those clients that avoid girls offering OWO. I started escorting going from civvie sex and never crossed my mind to do oral covered and tbh I could of caught something owo before escorting. And my ex use to say I was crao at oral so psychologically maybe I was still insecure that would be the case as a escort. But also many if my regulars don't come back just for the oral but because they like my service as a whole.

You make a lot of sense Amy :).

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If I remember rightly, a few regulars sulked disappeared for varying lengths of time but virtually of them all came back. The ones who didn't weren't people I missed - your regulars visit because they want to see you, and it's unlikely that one service is the be all and end all. And as you've predicted you'll get a whole new set who are more safety conscious (or just plain squeamish).

I also remember it took me roughly three weeks to get used to doing oral with a condom and putting it on with my mouth, and it's so ingrained now I don't think I could do it without one any more than I'd do unprotected shagging. The most important benefit was how much more relaxed I was and bookings were far more pleasant as a result :).

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I charge the same for ow and owo. (I charge more for CIM though). Some men are not interested in owo, it attracts a market. I'd suggest make your boundaries crystal clear in your ad.

I found most callers are parroting GFE because they saw it mentioned in a review or a list.
I ask every caller they mean by GFE, to avoid misunderstandings. Most are stumped and can't give a sensible answer unless pushed. The majority say 'I don't know what GFE is' or  'the normal' or they blurt out 'sex'.

My girlfriend worked for years providing OW and charged the same as me, we toured the same places together, and she was equally busy. No difference in earnings.

When fully working I take a full knobs and whistles STD test every 3 weeks if that helps.
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MissElvira

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Amy your positive outcome with switching to ow is encouraging. I think there's always a element of worry in this game with not offering certain services and a dusty phone. But I had a really hard time going up with my rates for fear of losing clients and I did lose most of them and when they commented on my new rates I just told them that if they felt I was not worth X amount then they could shop around to suit their budget. And I was thinking what have I done lol But being proud I just stuck at it and I got new and better bookings. But it's rare in my area to not offer owo at all. I don't want to put at discretion because guys need things made clear or they think they can get it.

So I will make it clear that it's a decision based on my sexual health and those that visit me and it's the level of risk I'm prepared to not take for my own health. And that it not negotiable. But I will get comments on it and loads of messages asking if I offer OWO. This happened when I took anal of my list, Everyone wanted it lol Even had regulars try and say that one day I might let them, Long wait.


I'd like to come back and add in so many months that it's not had a negative effect but now with educating myself more I will not feel comfortable offering owo and I don't want to escort and feel it's a risk that I'm not ok with.

MissElvira

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Thanks Salty and I have read mixed experiences on changing to ow on here, But I suppose each escort, Profile and even body type is also a factor and so it's a individual experience. I'm no supermodel or fit tight bodied young girl but I make a huge effort in marketing my personality, Personal touches and style and pictures. But I do well without working loads. So I suppose it's about doing what we feel mentally and physically capable of doing.

And with my duo partner we had a sneaky guy get me to sit on her face so my back was turned away so he could try rub and enter her bareback, It was my job to watch him and I put the condom on him. I don't trust him from past experience so we knew we had to keep an eye on him. I had to fake foot cramp to control the situation without telling him to sling his hook.  Don't these guys care, They must think it's just our risk which it is if we get an infection. Sorry a bit of a rant there. But I wish guys respected the reasons we use protection and see it as a positive.

So Unfortunately with the rise in more of these risk takers I expect to not be busy but ride it out. Most of my older respectful regs are not coming out to play at the mo.

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it's rare in my area to not offer owo at all.

Well that's even better! You'll be a niche :D

I'd like to come back and add in so many months that it's not had a negative effect but now with educating myself more I will not feel comfortable offering owo and I don't want to escort and feel it's a risk that I'm not ok with.

Well the next few months are going to be so unpredictable anyway that there probably isn't any way of telling, but as I posted it made me so much happier that my bookings went better and more punters returned because I was far less stressed and uncomfortable, and that made work so much easier which in turn meant I could do more bookings. And like everything else, if you change your mind you change your mind :).

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When I first started, OWO was a speciality that not many people offered so I've always done OW.  I tried to do OWO one week to keep up with trends but I was so uncomfortable and didn't enjoy the bookings anymore. It's OW all the way for me now. They get a better service when I'm relaxed. Very occasionally someone will plead and whine but I've never had anyone stop the booking, funnily enough! ;D
I've also never lowered my prices.

MissElvira

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Hi lottie , I feel doing ow now would make me feel less stressed before a booking especially since I had the experience with the guy putting some substance on his penis that was unexpected and made me panic as my lips went numb. Guys ruin for themselves and others really.

Questions for you Amy or anyone who's skilled at ow, Is there a technique? I can't use latex as I'm allergic to it and I've practically no experience except I have put a condom on with my mouth and the condom tastes horrible. Maybe a good oral edible lube? Obviously guys won't get the benefits of feeling my tongue so is there a technique to giving a good oral with a condom on? I though about practicing on a ripe banana lol

Thanks all for advice :)

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I would like to start OW but I am struggling to find non-latex flavoured condoms. Has anyone come across them x
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I would like to start OW but I am struggling to find non-latex flavoured condoms. Has anyone come across them x

Skyn do a range called "Cocktail Club", they're a bit pricey though. Mates flavoured are a lot cheaper but I guess it depends why you want non-latex? If it's because latex upsets your vaginal pH (I've had this in the past) but you're not actually allergic then I'd personally use a Mates for oral, then switch to a non-flavoured Skyn for penetration.
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MissElvira

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I've ordered the flavoured Skyn and ordered a pack of 12 for almost half the price of the non flavoured so that's good and I'm getting prepared. I've lowered my rates a bit to tempt new guys and in line with local competition. I will raise my fees once I'm confident and work picks up. I'm going to add prostate massage and strap on at a extra cost. I'll still do owo on my regulars as I know they are clean and if I catch anything I'll know from which select group and then I would only do OW and let them know why.

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 I always use super skinny flavoured condoms but unfortunately I have no idea how to put one on with my mouth. My technique is plenty of eye contact while rolling it on then licking slowly from the base up until the tip and rimming the head. Don't want want to get too graphic but clients seem to enjoy it and forget about the 'hardship' of wearing a condom.
Edited to say, always change the condoms. Sorry if it seems obvious! For me it's thin flavoured condom for oral then change over for sex.
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I always use super skinny flavoured condoms but unfortunately I have no idea how to put one on with my mouth. My technique is plenty of eye contact while rolling it on then licking slowly from the base up until the tip and rimming the head. Don't want want to get too graphic but clients seem to enjoy it and forget about the 'hardship' of wearing a condom.
Edited to say, always change the condoms. Sorry if it seems obvious! For me it's thin flavoured condom for oral then change over for sex.

Which brand of flavoured condoms do you use lottie?
The cheapo brand (from supersavers) that I use are all quite teeny and the colours are abit over the top to match the flavour - unless you are going for the comedy element  :-\