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GG

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Skyn do a range called "Cocktail Club", they're a bit pricey though. Mates flavoured are a lot cheaper but I guess it depends why you want non-latex? If it's because latex upsets your vaginal pH (I've had this in the past) but you're not actually allergic then I'd personally use a Mates for oral, then switch to a non-flavoured Skyn for penetration.

Thanks I will try the cocktail club. I have a latex intolerance, I can't even use latex gloves. I tried using latex dental dams for rimming and they burnt my tongue. Thats a thought does anyone know of non latex dental dams x

Edit: I will start a new thread so I dont take this one off topic xx
« Last Edit: 28 November 2020, 03:03:26 pm by Gina G »
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I think that you need a few specialities that clients might not get at home - OWO is just one of those. So worth thinking of your overall menu to draw in customers if you take OWO off.

I went OW only about a year ago after a mild throat STI (chlamydia) - I now just use regular unflavoured condoms, usually Durex Extra Safe and change it before sex (otherwise they lack the oily lube that I need for comfortable penetration).
I did not change my prices and made as much but I did upgrade my service list to start doing A again at £50 extra. £50 puts most clients off and I end up with about 1 or at the most 2 in a week (the most I can now do without getting a sore bum :() - they have to say they want this before booking (I enema cleanse and tell them that).  If I'm over my 2 in a week limit or not feeling like it, I simply tell them the situation and they have to book another time. I like having this control and you can only do this if it is an extra that needs advanced confirmation.

The one speciality that I offer without extra payment is giving WS. Where I am, this seems to be a a good speciality that draws customers and it is easier than most other services (I have a wet room shower that helps). About 1 in 4 of my clients goes for the WS option and they really like it. Much easier and safer than OWO, kissing or facials.

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Hi Samcas and thanks for your reply. You read my mind actually with adding A levels but like you I need to have notice and prepare and also check the guys size, I've only enjoyed this with boyfriends on the smaller side and I was in control. With watersports Samcas do you mention it on your profile or just tick it as a like? With a booking I'd have to use a toy first to get ready for anal or I'll end up punching his balls. But with anal but I worry I might end up with inconvenience later in life if I did it too often.

Before lockdown my speciality was longer bookings with guys that liked my detailed profile and my personality and I attracted more of the older gentleman over 40 type that are not after PSE but love to please a woman or have lots of conversation and connection. Also I did attract lots of sissy boys and strap on, Dom bookings and I'm thinking of getting more experience with this but need to gain confidence in this.

I think with no OW I would do ok in normal times but since covid it's the type that are not so respectful and just horny. But luckily I've got enough regulars to have work to keep comfortable.

The watersports I have done only a few times, Its on my list but maybe I need to market it more on my profile?


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Add extra services only if you want to. You don't 'have' to do anything - I do offer anal and always have, but if it was that much of a fuss I wouldn't bother (and I've been having anal sex for thirty years - the only time I've ever shit myself was when I got food poisoning in Egypt where I think it's mandatory).

As for technique (and I use Skyns too, but I find they don't taste of anything much), I find it helps to use more pressure with your lips and tongue than you would ordinarily - also good exercise for face muscles :D

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Hi MissElvira,

Yes - big up your specialities and don't just add them to your likes list.

I also have some reviews where I have asked clients (without pressure or inducement) to mention and describe our WS antics in field reports - it works because new clients mention these. I also have some equipment for WS (queening seat) that is in my private gallery - they love it!

I have to admit that I get a kick (not sexual but I can't describe it) when I do a massive piss on the face of a man - I think it may be a dom emotion!

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Hi Samcas and What's a queening seat?  I have had some bad first time WS on my back where I can't pee lol but squatting works, I'm actually a good frequent pisser in my real life lol but I need gravity on someone lol ( insert constipatipatd face lol . My first time was in a glass and being curious asked the guy why, And it made sense.


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A queening seat (or stool) is basically a low seat with a big hole in the middle - a bit like a loo seat with shortish legs.

You can get substantial and expensive ones or cheapos - the one I have cost about £30, it folds up for storage (so my mum cant ask about it when she visits). Google the term of search on Amazon.

If you want to improvise in a hotel room (probably not a budget hotel because they don't often have them) take one of those folding suitcase stands with straps on it into the bath

The one I have is as comfy as my home toilet - so when I sit on it with a full bladder, it - well just comes gushing out like I was on the loo. You can even hold your feet up in the air or put then on your client to keep them dry and wee free!

I have used it in my private life to receive a nice bit of cunilingus too - no balancing on your toes when face sitting ..... just relax and cum on a comfy chair. Also good for masturbating with a vibrator. Mine gets a lot of use.

MissElvira

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Thanks Samcos for sharing, Definitely insightful and I'm going to try and add this to my profile. Update with taking OWO from my profile, Actually had no effect on views or hot lists on AW.  I was worried, But actually since end of lockdown had my usual requests for bookings. I did a dummy run going available which helps add credits to my AW account for private gallery subs , Went available and had more enquiries than I could see on a working day. So feel more confident in my choice to go OW. Will work next week and hope it's still a positive. But yet to do OW with a condom.

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Once Covid hit I made the decision to go fully OW, & quite frankly I’m loving it so much I doubt I’ll go back. My phrasing now is, “The BJs are covered bc of Covid for the foreseeable future.”

I’d say 8/10 are perfectly fine, 1 grumbles & 1 outright complains. I’ve had exactly ONE actually leave in the last 10 months bc of it; I can live with those odds *shrugs. He also wrote a review about it, BUT lol, made himself out to be the bad guy for NOT asking ahead of time😂.

Since I’ve started this? Not had a single man ask for bareback.....so very interesting, I think.
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Once Covid hit I made the decision to go fully OW, & quite frankly I’m loving it so much I doubt I’ll go back. My phrasing now is, “The BJs are covered bc of Covid for the foreseeable future.”

I’d say 8/10 are perfectly fine, 1 grumbles & 1 outright complains. I’ve had exactly ONE actually leave in the last 10 months bc of it; I can live with those odds *shrugs. He also wrote a review about it, BUT lol, made himself out to be the bad guy for NOT asking ahead of time😂.

Since I’ve started this? Not had a single man ask for bareback.....so very interesting, I think.

It's amazing what 'hardships' they'll put up with at the end of the day lol! I always do OW and the ones who grumble soon forget the misery of condoms when they're getting a good blow job with a decent technique. I don't even apologise anymore, my health and my boundaries are my business.

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I was doing sensual massage no FS with oral. I took off oral and I still had same amount of clients and you get good quality gents actually. Better in the city where office guys want to unwind...not for guys who just want as much as they can get for little price.
Hope that helps x

MissElvira

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I've still had a busy phone but I've not worked since I added OW so be interesting next week to see if I get any issues during a booking. Had my tests for vaginal and oral STDs come back negative. I'll give owo to a select few regulars but any new guys its OW but I haven't done it covered so I'll need to practice lol But I just hope they read my likes and see OW or maybe I should tell them before booking. But I imagine once I get use to oral covered I wont want to go back.

The guy that complained Celeste obviously didn't read your profile properly so it's his problem , I imagine a few will try and convince me to do without because they are clean.

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I’m toying with the idea of not offering certain services anymore, I’d adjust my prices accordingly.

In your experience, has the reduction of services negatively affected your business? I’m mainly referring to OWO and RO.
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Merged with the most recent of the existing threads.

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I briefly tried doing ow but lost lots of bookings