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EscortS

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ever feel like you are selling yourself short?
« on: 27 July 2014, 09:05:47 am »
Well i am back in london and i did 4 days of work, and made just short of a grand ( i hope its oky to mention that here, if not sorry :-X )
But anyways i charged ?80 n hour cos i had a free ad on viva street, and since the guys there are often hagglers, i decided to accommodate them by keeping my rates low.
Its london though, and when expenses are calculated, i still feel like I sold my self short. I'd rather be charging 130-150 p/hr, but its so hit and miss for me that i just thought fuck it get what you can as fast as you can. anyways i am writing this because on my last day I had an accident where the condom slipped during, and he didnt tell me. I'm pissed i didnt notice, but im even more pissed off that he thought it was okay to keep going till he was 'finished', so that i could find out. I tried to pretend i didnt care, but now that i'm typing this, i realise that i'm more upset than i thought i was.
i like this job, but i seriously think im suffering from a bbw inferiority complex. I know BBWs bank, i just wonder why i am not one of them. I don't work often, so maybe i miss out on clients because of this.
Anyways just sharing my thought and feelings. What do you guys think of my question?

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Re: ever feel like you are selling yourself short?
« Reply #1 on: 27 July 2014, 09:14:14 am »
I always lubricate with water based lube the condom then say for clients not to touch the condom. A condom breakage happens when it gets to dry. So i change often adding more lube. When use the sponge i  put plenty of lube on.

Some time do what you feel is right at the time with prices or risk in such a short time to weigh up. It sounds you did good. At least you earned i read some didn't earn before while touring.
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Re: ever feel like you are selling yourself short?
« Reply #2 on: 27 July 2014, 09:15:47 am »
I haven't got much time but didn't want to read and run.

I think ?80 p/h is very, very low for London. I mostly work in Bucks now where I charge around double that...in London when I started I charged ?350 for the first hour  :o Anything you get told will probably be anecdotal and subjective, but in my experience higher prices don't put off clients; if anything, it attracts a better breed of them.

Only work with what you are comfortable with. It sounds like you saw a lot of men in a very short space of time.

That guy was totally out of order, and some men may attempt to remove condoms mid-sex on purpose. If it ever happens again, don't pretend not to care...he shouldn't think that this was ok! I would also refuse to see this guy again.

The fact you're posting this shows you're not happy with your pricing. Put this week down to experience, put them up and look after yourself. Big hugs x

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Re: ever feel like you are selling yourself short?
« Reply #3 on: 27 July 2014, 11:24:51 am »
I feel like this as someone who's very niche (ftm trans) - I feel like I have to offer a very reduced rate to bring in punters.  I think in my case a lot of this is low self-esteem and feeling that no one could ever be sexually interested in someone like me (despite this being the opposite of my experience in my personal life!!), and I'm trying to work on that and market myself far more exclusively.  Good luck to you!

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Re: ever feel like you are selling yourself short?
« Reply #4 on: 27 July 2014, 11:46:25 am »
I think ?80 p/h is very, very low for London. .. in my experience higher prices don't put off clients; if anything, it attracts a better breed of them.

Well, it's going to be what some agency escorts take home, and it's more than some will get from brothel work, but yes, ?80/hour is less than many independent escorts charge. It's not shockingly low, though.

The idea that clients prepared to pay more are, even on average, a "better breed" would be laughable if it weren't potentially dangerous. Even ignoring the scammers who wave large sums around to attract victims, some of the most troublesome clients are the ones who think that because they're paying more, they can demand more.

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Only work with what you are comfortable with. It sounds like you saw a lot of men in a very short space of time.

Definitely. And some are more comfortable with that.
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Re: ever feel like you are selling yourself short?
« Reply #5 on: 27 July 2014, 11:50:02 am »
I think ?80 p/h is very, very low for London. I mostly work in Bucks now where I charge around double that...in London when I started I charged ?350 for the first hour  :o Anything you get told will probably be anecdotal and subjective, but in my experience higher prices don't put off clients; if anything, it attracts a better breed of them.

It may be low, but there are people charging less as well as people charging more and in such a huge diverse market it's not really helpful to start picking holes in the specifics. What matters is that the OP isn't happy with what she's getting and it will show (which affects repeat business, so it's something of a vicious circle).

I will point out that in my experience and that of other ladies I know, the higher paying clients are far from 'better'; it's somebody's attitude and behaviour that makes them a pleasant punter to deal with and not how much cash they're handing over. If anything I've found the reverse to be true (and at least two people we've had posting here who started off with the 300+ ph agencies had many far more unpleasant experiences than I've ever had in the low to mid range bracket).


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Re: ever feel like you are selling yourself short?
« Reply #6 on: 27 July 2014, 03:19:55 pm »
EscortS, if you are not happy with what you charge, you can increase your fee to 120 for example, or more, and put on your profile that starting with 1st of august for example, your fee will be increased, in case you want few more booking in next few days, then charge more.
Its just what I would do.
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Re: ever feel like you are selling yourself short?
« Reply #7 on: 27 July 2014, 05:48:43 pm »
I think ?80 p/h is very, very low for London. .. in my experience higher prices don't put off clients; if anything, it attracts a better breed of them.

Well, it's going to be what some agency escorts take home, and it's more than some will get from brothel work, but yes, ?80/hour is less than many independent escorts charge. It's not shockingly low, though.

The idea that clients prepared to pay more are, even on average, a "better breed" would be laughable if it weren't potentially dangerous. Even ignoring the scammers who wave large sums around to attract victims, some of the most troublesome clients are the ones who think that because they're paying more, they can demand more.

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Only work with what you are comfortable with. It sounds like you saw a lot of men in a very short space of time.

Definitely. And some are more comfortable with that.

I'm not suggesting complacency, which is why I did say "in my experience", having worked different parts of the market. Obviously everyone will have a small and skewed sample, and a certain perspective. I found clients at the higher end were less fussed about what I would do, and having long winded conversations, and just wanted an evening - often with a fancy dinner - when they happened to be in London. Also more longer/overnight bookings. That suited me. This was 4 years ago now so I don't claim that the same is true, or that I wasn't just incredibly lucky with those clients and slightly unlucky with the others.

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Re: ever feel like you are selling yourself short?
« Reply #8 on: 28 July 2014, 12:07:07 am »
London's rate make my mind boggle which is why I would never go back, price's range hugely, and the amount of "ladies" offer bareback sex is huge! Get yourself to the client and get checked out, what happened to you is horrible and I feel for you, I am sending you as much positive energy and love as I can muster at mid-night (im in bed by 11 normally)
With your pricing, mine has been the same give or take a tenner depending on where I have been, I think ?80 is selling yourself short and you know your un happy about it because you are asking us, up your price's! as mentioned put this week down to experience, you've got some money set aside for your bills which is good, but now get some nicer clients who pay well and enjoy yourself.

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Re: ever feel like you are selling yourself short?
« Reply #9 on: 28 July 2014, 02:37:07 am »
I tried to pretend i didnt care, but now that i'm typing this, i realise that i'm more upset than i thought i was.

I'm really sorry you feel rubbish. I completely understand that delayed feeling of misery, when the adrenaline and need for pretence have long gone. I would just urge you not to beat yourself up over this - you're only human and you can't go back. Hopefully if you found yourself in a similar situation, you'd use this experience as one to learn from.

i like this job, but i seriously think im suffering from a bbw inferiority complex. I know BBWs bank, i just wonder why i am not one of them. I don't work often, so maybe i miss out on clients because of this.

No reason why being a BBW should make a difference to your success. However, if you have a complex, that's going to affect your work, regardless of your size! Try to relax lovey - and also try not to compare yourself to others. What is your USP? Maybe you have a gorgeous hourglass figure, or big boobs...whatever 'it' is, get some new pics taken to boost your confidence.

It will all work our ok if you stay positive  :)

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Re: ever feel like you are selling yourself short?
« Reply #10 on: 28 July 2014, 10:20:26 am »
The OP will have to wait for two weeks before she goes to clinic to get tested.

Take care of yourself OP, being a BBW does not go against you as I am one and have worked successfully for years in the business.

If you have a personal problem with being a BBW perhaps that is something you should address.
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Re: ever feel like you are selling yourself short?
« Reply #11 on: 29 July 2014, 06:12:39 am »
If you have a personal problem with being a BBW perhaps that is something you should address.

My sentiments exactly. It's important to be comfortable with your body. And this does not apply to BBWs only. I think escorts should be comfortable enough with their bodies to be able to work with clients. Otherwise, the job can be a mindfuck. And also, don't forget that confidence is very sexy and empowering.
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Re: ever feel like you are selling yourself short?
« Reply #12 on: 29 July 2014, 09:31:45 am »
I dont like to be called a BBW either but then I dont like to be called other things also. I dont like other people to put me into their boxes or put their labels on me. I like to define what and who I am personally. I know you can't stop others putting you into their boxes but thats up to them. If someone doesnt want to be defined as a BBW then I dont see why someone would think thats an "issue" that she needs to deal with, why is it an issue at all? It doesnt mean you have personal issues it just means you dont want yet another label slapped on you. If someone is happy with that description then thats good, all power to them, but equally if someone doesnt then it doesnt mean she has issues or self image problems. We all chose to market ourselves in our different ways, I prefer to pick out certain features as my marketing  rather than the oveall size of me and I certainly dont have any personal issues that I need to resolve with my self image.

I agree though, you have to be comfortable with this job and the doing of it, if you are not then that head fuck will arrive sooner or later, as someone else already said.
« Last Edit: 29 July 2014, 09:33:28 am by Sassy Slapper »