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« Reply #465 on: 14 August 2014, 04:47:21 pm »
Hello, everyone! Thank you to everyone behind this site.  It is amazing.  Interested in escort work (a man looking for women), but happy to be a driver really.  This is a great site, and please keep up the good work.

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« Reply #466 on: 14 August 2014, 04:57:27 pm »
Hello, everyone! Thank you to everyone behind this site.  It is amazing.  Interested in escort work (a man looking for women), but happy to be a driver really.  This is a great site, and please keep up the good work.

I've moved your post here, because if you're hoping to advertise as a straight male escort and get female clients it's really the only thread on the forum you need to read.

If you'd like to put up an ad offering driving work then please do post in Seeking/Offering, but if you're an owner driver you're likely to have far more luck (and earn far more money) by contacting your local cab firm.

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« Reply #467 on: 15 August 2014, 12:50:37 pm »
Re a comment upthread:

"with aids being so prevalent amongst the gay community, my concerns are strengthened ever more by this."

- for what it's worth, HIV/AIDS is actually more in the increase in the heterosexual community than among men who have sex with men, and in my experience both personally and working as a male escort with other men, gay men have FAR more awareness of the dangers of disease transmission than straight men do! (For example, the number of men who want OWO/CIM and to come inside your vagina or anus compared to how marginal and stigmatised the "barebacking" community is among gay men!  This is something you might want to be aware of and educated about - popular stereotypes (as sex workers of all kinds and genders know ;) ) are not usually true! :) :)

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« Reply #468 on: 15 August 2014, 12:52:28 pm »
Also, I have done a small amount of escorting for straight women, and more of them are interested in respect, kindness, and good cunnilingus and massage skills than penis size, penetration etc!  Obviously this does NOT prove true for all women, but it's definitely something to note in terms of advertising! (On the other hand, places like CL are full of skeezy dudes offering to "lick your pussy for hours for free", so be careful with phrasing etc).

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« Reply #469 on: 17 August 2014, 08:08:24 pm »
Hi, I'm a new straight male escort with a question. I first advertised my services on 15/8/14 and have so far attracted one bi male.

What are your conversion rates for your adverts?

I've had about 183 views for 1 advert and 1 response. Is that a good rate?

Thank you for your time.

amy

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« Reply #470 on: 17 August 2014, 08:11:00 pm »
* sighs *

Read the rest of this thread - I've merged your post. If you're not prepared to do men, it's the only one here you need to bother with.

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« Reply #471 on: 17 August 2014, 11:59:11 pm »
- for what it's worth, HIV/AIDS is actually more in the increase in the heterosexual community than among men who have sex with men, and in my experience both personally and working as a male escort with other men, gay men have FAR more awareness of the dangers of disease transmission than straight men do! (For example, the number of men who want OWO/CIM and to come inside your vagina or anus compared to how marginal and stigmatised the "barebacking" community is among gay men! 

If you look at the percentage increase, yes, but in terms of absolute numbers, it's still overwhelmingly not a heterosexual thing in the UK: the large majority of the 'presumed infected via heterosexual sex' cases happened outside the UK, primarily in Africa.

Plus looking at such increases can be misleading: going from one to two is a rise of 100%, where as going from ten thousand to fifteen thousand is 'just' a 50% rise. The latter one's risen rather more though.

I'd raise one eyebrow at the idea barebacking is marginal or not stigmatised in the gay community too. The last UK 'Gay Men's Sex Survey' I have to hand (reported in 2010, work done in 2008) had about 55% of the men who had had anal intercourse in the previous year doing it without a condom at least once.
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« Reply #472 on: 18 August 2014, 12:02:04 am »
Hi, I'm a new straight male escort with a question. I first advertised my services on 15/8/14 and have so far attracted one bi male.

What are your conversion rates for your adverts?

I've had about 183 views for 1 advert and 1 response. Is that a good rate?

Was it an actual booking or just an enquiry?

Some of those views will be repeat viewings by the same people, and some will be by 'bots' rather than by humans. If the site is AW and it's an actual booking, you've probably done quite well for the reasons given here.
'The Ian formerly known as SW5'. What they said: "Indispensable", "You are our best resource", and (hours later!) "I'm afraid that you're being made redundant..."

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« Reply #473 on: 18 August 2014, 01:17:16 am »
xw5 - if it's the survey I'm thinking of, it included men in relationships (so men who are fluid-bonded) - my boyfriend and I routinely have sex without condoms with one another, just not with other people!  Compared to the number of different-sex couples I know who have intercourse without barriers because "I'm on the pill" or similar, I'd say there's *definitely* a discrepancy!  It may be a matter of moving in different circles, though....

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« Reply #474 on: 18 August 2014, 08:06:56 am »
Can we stay on topic here? Start another thread or take it to PM, please :).
« Last Edit: 18 August 2014, 08:08:53 am by amy »

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« Reply #475 on: 01 September 2014, 04:35:22 pm »
I know its has been said many times but I came across this one [removed - please don't post links here]. He is from Belgium and has a paid add on one of the popular site which costs oer 120 for two weeks. I don't know his prices but seems that he get's some business, even to pay those adds. He does also couples and seems to give massages, more concentrate on this one, than sex but seems to do sex too. So, if anyone is aiming for women then should go this direction rather than showing a hard cock. If I was a single bussinesswoman I would use his service if he would do very good massage.

Once I was in Poland in a private massage from a man from newspaper and it go really hot but we didn't have sex. I paid the same rate as for an hour sex with a prossie but that was obviuosly massage concentrate only, as I love very hard massage, can't find anything like that in normal women given massage.

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I would actually paid for somethig like this. I often get problem with muscles, and the therapist is expensive and very short. Good hard man's hands are valuable!




[Edited again - we DO NOT discuss other providers here and general points can be made without naming names]
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« Reply #476 on: 02 September 2014, 11:12:50 pm »
Hi, I'm a new straight male escort with a question. I first advertised my services on 15/8/14 and have so far attracted one bi male.

What are your conversion rates for your adverts?

I've had about 183 views for 1 advert and 1 response. Is that a good rate?

Thank you for your time.

I don't really pay attention to the amount of views my profile gets to be honest - for the reasons the others have said (although if I saw nobody was viewing it I'd know there was a problem!)

There is no way of knowing how many of the people viewing your profile actually have any intention of booking anyone, ever.

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« Reply #477 on: 02 September 2014, 11:15:53 pm »
I got an email through adult work, just had to share it:

'escort to escort?

I have been here long time and have only one review.  We could have fun together and leave each other good feedback and field reports?

Let me know'

So I checked out the profile and sure enough, it's a guy offering services to women.  I can't decide if he's a poor misguided soul who thinks only having one feedback is the reason he's not getting any bookings, or if he's a guy looking for a way to get free sex, or a bit of both!

I responded nicely and referred him here just in case it's the former.  But whatever next!  A good feedback isn't worth anywhere near my hourly rate to me!

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« Reply #478 on: 02 September 2014, 11:19:54 pm »
Well the above really belongs in How Not To Book... with the rest of the chancers, but yes, it's an optimist who thinks that if he claims to be a sex worker you'll have sex with him for free :).

Presumably he thinks that chefs must eat for free in other restaurants, and hoteliers get free stays when they go on holiday ::).

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Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
« Reply #479 on: 02 September 2014, 11:34:38 pm »
Hi, I'm a new straight male escort with a question. I first advertised my services on 15/8/14 and have so far attracted one bi male.

What are your conversion rates for your adverts?

I've had about 183 views for 1 advert and 1 response. Is that a good rate?

Thank you for your time.

Find a female provider who started around the same date and see how many views her profile is showing. I'll bet it's quite a few more.