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Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
« Reply #420 on: 28 October 2013, 05:28:38 pm »
i checked out crazy oz for straight male escorts. they do exist but who would want a male escort? surly even the most undesirable girl will have someone who would be with them so why would they have to pay for it?

They don't, CG. That's pretty much this entire 27 page thread in a nutshell :).

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« Reply #421 on: 05 November 2013, 07:08:22 pm »
Haha. Unless something remarkable happens in the male escorting world I recon this is now a dead end thread >.<

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« Reply #422 on: 05 November 2013, 09:38:22 pm »
There is a never-ending stream of men who think they could do it, so as with 'how not to book...', this thread will last as long as SAAFE does.

There are female clients, but because there are many fewer than male ones and lots of male escorts hoping for them, the maths will never be good...
'The Ian formerly known as SW5'. What they said: "Indispensable", "You are our best resource", and (hours later!) "I'm afraid that you're being made redundant..."

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« Reply #423 on: 07 November 2013, 12:54:54 pm »
Someone who is (now) a celebrity (ish) falling victim to this scam:

huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/22/matt-cardle-porn-male-escort-x-factor_n_4140399.html
'The Ian formerly known as SW5'. What they said: "Indispensable", "You are our best resource", and (hours later!) "I'm afraid that you're being made redundant..."

Winding down YourEscortSite.com

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Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
« Reply #424 on: 21 November 2013, 05:01:29 pm »

So you are saying that there is a demand for male escorts?


The sort answer is, male escorts = yes. straight male escorts = no.

I've been advertising as an escort for 5 years now and always advertised as available to 'men, women and couples.'

I see on average a few male clients per day, a few couples per month, duos with female escorts a few times a month and one or two single female clients per year.

If you google 'male masseur and escort for women in london' my website is the second result. backpage is the first result and my ad is on the first page on backpage. Vivastreet and rentboy are both in the top 10 and I have ads on both. So my ad is most likely reaching single women who are looking for male escorts but there just aren't enough of them for anyone to make a living as a straight male escort.


If we had to quantify this how can we do that?

Lets say women can get 10 clients a day, then may a male escort can get say 1 client a day?

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If I had to quantify the ratio of demand for straight male escorts to the demand for male escorts who see men I'd say less than 1%

I can't comment on how many clients per day women and men can get in general sorry. That depends on too many factors.

In my opinion there's currently not enough demand for anyone to make a living as a straight male escort but that may change in future. There are certainly single women and women in relationships who go months or years without having sex (or without enjoying sex) and some of them wouldn't dream of picking up men for casual sex for a variety of reasons. I think it would be a big step forward for gender equality if it were as 'normal' for women to book escorts as it is for men to do so.


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Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
« Reply #425 on: 01 January 2014, 02:18:23 am »
So, I'm a guy, yes.
A (mostly) straight guy struggling to pay for anything.

A few years ago a friend of mine suggested there was demand in her agency for straight guys, but I've left that town since.
I've realized that all the agencies I look for online ask for upfront fees, so they're clearly just scamming me.

But more to the point, even if I could get myself out there, would any woman (or man) want the services of an escort who needs a walking stick to get around? I'm strong, I'm thin and I'm sure not all the compliments I've received in my life were lies, but to what extent would I need to hide the fact that I can't climb stairs without that walking stick (which I otherwise just use to swagger)?

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Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
« Reply #426 on: 01 January 2014, 02:34:29 am »
Ach, the first one of the year and it took two hours and eighteen minutes.

CL, please read the rest of this thread. If you're prepared to do men, you've got at least a chance of some work, but it doesn't really seem to be the main focus of your post so I've moved it here. You can use the Search box to look for things like 'gay male escort' (there are a few threads on advertising and so on) if you think it'll be helpful but if you're hoping to have found the solution to your financial woes, you're probably better ditching this forum and getting back on Google to look for a Plan B.

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« Reply #427 on: 01 January 2014, 12:19:37 pm »
I think it would be a big step forward for gender equality if it were as 'normal' for women to book escorts as it is for men to do so.

Never! Not in a Billion years.

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« Reply #428 on: 01 January 2014, 12:38:54 pm »
I think it would be a big step forward for gender equality if it were as 'normal' for women to book escorts as it is for men to do so.

Never! Not in a Billion years.

I don't think it's any less 'normal', I just think it's less common. It does depend on how we're defining normal, but there are a fair few women who book 'escorts' even if they are only a tiny percentage of punters. What they don't do, on the whole, is book male ones.

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Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
« Reply #429 on: 07 January 2014, 09:22:47 pm »
I think it would be a big step forward for gender equality if it were as 'normal' for women to book escorts as it is for men to do so.

Never! Not in a Billion years.

I don't think it's any less 'normal', I just think it's less common. It does depend on how we're defining normal, but there are a fair few women who book 'escorts' even if they are only a tiny percentage of punters. What they don't do, on the whole, is book male ones.
I think you're quite right. I've been a professional male escort for women for the best part of a decade and there are very few of us around because of the lack of work.

The only way I've been able to succeed is by promoting myself by doing TV documentaries, magazine articles, interviews, talks and being highly ranked in Google for five years, above many of the leading agencies, until they changed their blasted search algorithm six months ago. 99% of my earnings is from a few regular clients that have remained with me over over the years.

If only I had as many women interested in my services. as I do guys asking me about how to become a straight male escort, I'd be a very wealthy man. So here's my advice to those guys who want to give it a go. Spend a lot of time and money promoting yourself for years and, if you're lucky, slowly claw back your outlay and after a few more years, you might have a business. It's not easy and it's not a get rich quick scheme. Good luck.

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Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
« Reply #430 on: 23 January 2014, 10:44:55 am »
Hi I'm new on here and I'm sure this topic will have been covered but I can't find a thread that exactly covers my situation. Last year, after quite a lot of thought, I decided to sign up with Cavendish Knights who are a "non-sexual" male escort agency. There are many such scams but this one seemed credible and spent a lot of time exchanging emails with me.  There was just a one-off fee of ?17 to join which seemed very little to risk.

Now a year later I haven't received a single booking and they're much less inclined to engage in any discussion about why this might be!

Can any members on here please give me advice because I see there are 3 possibilities:

1. Despite all their publicity, the market for non-sexual male escorts is virtually non-existent.

2. There is a market but for younger men than myself.

3. It's a scam - but would it really be worthwhile to do all this work to scam people out of such small amounts of money?

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Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
« Reply #431 on: 23 January 2014, 10:49:46 am »
Your answers are '1' and '3'. If you'd done a search for 'straight male escorts' you would have found this thread, but I've merged you post in with it now so if you want to waste any more of your time on this you can read it all and find out why.

Hopefully your choice of username will mean it pops up in Google and leads a few more optimists to it, too :).

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Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
« Reply #432 on: 23 January 2014, 11:48:51 am »
Amy

Thanks for this quick (and clear!) response. I was going to ask how to publicise the scam but hopefully this will help.

Can anyone advise how I can get my profile removed from their site if they prove difficult about doing this please?


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Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
« Reply #433 on: 23 January 2014, 12:04:32 pm »
Well if I'm right (and I'm not in a position to look at their site now) the main thing would be not giving them any more money - if you have a Direct Debit or similar, call the bank and stop it.

As far as the site goes, I would imagine that if you use whatever contact details they provide and ask that your ad be removed that ought to do it, but if they get arsy just threaten to report them to both their hosting company and Google. They don't have to know that you've finally cottoned on to them - you could be leaving the country and no longer available to their non-existent female punters :D.

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« Reply #434 on: 23 January 2014, 06:25:28 pm »
Well if I'm right (and I'm not in a position to look at their site now) the main thing would be not giving them any more money - if you have a Direct Debit or similar, call the bank and stop it.

As far as the site goes, I would imagine that if you use whatever contact details they provide and ask that your ad be removed that ought to do it, but if they get arsy just threaten to report them to both their hosting company and Google. They don't have to know that you've finally cottoned on to them - you could be leaving the country and no longer available to their non-existent female punters :D.
To their credit, they've removed my profile quickly and there's no Direct Debit; I only made one small payment at the beginning. That's what still puzzles me: how is it worth running a scam to get such tiny amounts. It'll have to remain a mystery, I guess.