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Title: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: trotski on 18 August 2008, 06:58:30 pm
hello everybody,
im writing to see if anybody has heard or used the above agency, i applied online and had a reply by post within a few days saying that my membership was accepted,they enclosed a standing order for ?49.95 per month but stating that i wouldnt be paying any fees until i had had a booking the date of the standing order is for the 1st of the month and on friday(15th) i received a booking for the 12th of september so im worried that i will have already paid ?50 but the booking could be a scam and ill be ?50 out of pocket. they do seem very professional enclosing my own personal membership card and on the booking asked me for a recent photo, i must add that i have already been "done" by paragon escorts for ?70 so please dont use that company but there communication was by text only and never asked for any personal info off me i just fell for it big time.if anybody could help ill be grateful.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 18 August 2008, 08:45:32 pm
my membership was accepted,they enclosed a standing order for ?49.95 per month but stating that i wouldnt be paying any fees until i had had a booking the date of the standing order is for the 1st of the month and on friday(15th) i received a booking for the 12th of september so im worried that i will have already paid ?50 but the booking could be a scam and ill be ?50 out of pocket

Contact your bank and cancel that standing order now - they're a scam.

Their basic scam is that they make up fake bookings and keep taking the money until you realise you've been done.

Fortunately they're not quite as appalling as some others, so you're not left having paid hundreds of pounds into a bank account with no chance of getting it back.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: brandy@saafe on 18 August 2008, 10:31:44 pm
Firstly I'd want to know why they don't have any profiles or galleries of these supposed "up to 500 males".

Secondly I'd like to know that why when it says on the home page that you don't pay a joining fee, they're asking you for ?49.95 a month. Whichever way they want to colour it, they want money off you, which is a big no-no.

Thirdly, I'd also want to find out how they've been supposedly going for 10yrs but their copyright is only from 2007 and isn't updated to include 2008.

Please avoid anybody that asks for money or for your bank details. I would certainly view this site with suspicion.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 19 August 2008, 09:52:20 am
It's what I call the 'Network' scam after the first one of the type I saw. They say 'no joining fee, only pay when you've had bookings', which sounds great. The problem is that they invent the bookings, always for next month, so they can take the money.

Paragon, who were the other bunch who caught trotski, came up with a variation which promised no joining or monthly fee, just commission, which sounds even better... until you discover that they wanted the commission for the first booking in advance 'so we can be sure we can trust you'. Obviously that's a fake booking too, but at that point they're waving a booking for the next few hours at you - ooooh! - so an annoying number of people fell for it.

It looks like they've switched to being a Network clone - their 'commission' has dropped, and they charge ?70 the second they invent a booking.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Mr_Nice_Guy on 22 September 2008, 11:45:39 am
I'm looking to start out as a straight male escort working from Glasgow & Scotland. I'd love to work for a genuine agency (if there is one), preferably one which takes no upfront fees (coz I'm skint!)

I'd appreciate any help or advice anyone could give, thx x
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Anika Mae on 22 September 2008, 12:00:44 pm
I'm glad you haven't paid any fees, but I'm afraid you have been taken in by the hype created by fake agencies. Odds are, you'll never get any work as a straight male escort.

If you want to give it a go, SW5 (http://www.sw5.info/straightmen.htm) lays out the options.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 22 September 2008, 03:21:40 pm
Have you thought about working as an escort driver? Judging by the last few days postings on the forum, there is definitely some demand for discreet, professional, reliable drivers (I wouldn't mind one myself for longer trips if I could find someone I trusted). You'll earn more than you are likely to as a straight male escort but then again, you also would if you were working in Aldi - sorry but apart from a very few exceptions, I think it's generally accepted as a non-starter.

The scam agencies will tell you otherwise to get your money - have a read of the Sticky threads at the top and don't fall for it.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 22 September 2008, 05:18:45 pm
No-one knows of any real 'straight male' agencies. Thirty per cent (or any other agency cut) of nothing is nothing and so the scams can out spend anyone attempting to start one.

That leaves working independently, and a quick look at A____W___ shows 69 men wanting to escort women in Glasgow there already.

The vast majority will never get a booking, even if one has a couple of probably fake reviews. (Two reviews but only seven profile views since February? Come on...)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Mr_Nice_Guy on 22 September 2008, 05:28:28 pm
Anika - Thanks for the link to SW5, great info. From what I've read, I think I've realised there's probably no market (or very little) out there for straight male escorts. I may pursue the indie route just to see how I get on and maybe offer a buddy service for local indie's who maybe get requests for couples, if this ever happens. Many thanks again x

Amy - Escort driving sounds like a good idea, if I can make enough money through maybe a few local indie escorts. I have my own car and can be discreet and professional, be able to handle any situation that arises and ensure safety is the key. Damn shame you're in England or we could have spoke about this further. Thanks a million :-) x

xw5 - Thanks for having a look at this for me, reality strikes!  :D I might just see how I get on as an indie, just to see if I can offer a niche or just to satisfy my curiosity! There's lots of useful info on this site to sift through and I'm working on it slowly. Thanks!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Leila on 22 September 2008, 10:04:41 pm
Hey! I Private mailed you earlier.. Im In glasgow and will probably be looking for a driver if your interested?

xx
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Mr_Nice_Guy on 22 September 2008, 10:15:20 pm
Hey Leila,

Sorry, I thought I relied to you earlier. I'll send another PM now :) x
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: jonny001 on 07 October 2008, 09:22:30 am
Hi everyone.

Trotski thanks for your info on Paragon was just about to get done myself! Fuckers! Um, can anyone give me a legit male escort company with no fees up front? As I've contacted all sorts,  Cavendish Knights is one,  who were profiled on TV, yet they don't even reply to my email!?

I'd appreciate any sort of help...

Thanks,

Jonny
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 07 October 2008, 09:51:55 am
No we can't, because there isn't one. Sorry.

The only good thing to say about Cavendish Knights aka SIGUK is that it's perhaps the cheapest of the scams to fall for. Because of the way the client is supposed to pay them then they give you your cut, all the money counts as their turnover for VAT purposes. As they're not VAT registered, this tells us that their turnover is low - it works out as less than one booking per week or less than one per 'escort' every five years from memory. It might not be much, but that upfront money for 'security checks' is their income.

Don't confuse being featured on some local radio programme with being any good. I'm slightly surpised a couple of them haven't had the cheek to plaster 'as featured on BBC Radio!!' across their site following this: www.bbc.co.uk/wales/x-ray/sites/allarticles/updates/8p03_escort.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/x-ray/sites/allarticles/updates/8p03_escort.shtml)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: thomasanderson on 23 October 2008, 09:51:42 pm
has anybody heard of red rose escorts they seem to be a fairly new agency in manchester and ive been offered an interview with them and a "fake date" with one of her friends to see if i can handle my self on a nit out in a bar with a client just wondering if anybody else has been for an interview or heard of them an if they`re legit or scammers as there seem to be so many out there

cheers
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Hermione on 23 October 2008, 11:33:40 pm
The "audition" you are expected to do screams scam
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: thomasanderson on 23 October 2008, 11:37:40 pm
yeah thats wot im thinking just wanted to see if anyone else had heard anything or applied
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Sasha on 24 October 2008, 04:28:49 pm
I think it's been mentioned in several other posts that the market for straight male escorts is tiny, if not non-existent, sorry if thats not what you want to hear. And as mentioned, the audition sounds dodgy to me. There only seems to be one escort on the site too. Just make sure you don't get scammed, particularly dont be giving any "registration fees" away.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 24 October 2008, 04:43:37 pm
I've just had a look at the site too and it's clearly not finished; I suspect the 'escort' featured is either the owner, or one of his/her friends, as the 'description' part and so on is all still in draft form. I'm not sure it's a scam in the sense that we normally mean, I don't see any mention of registration fees or guaranteed bookings, and the home page does at least appear to be geared towards attracting clients. The whole thing screams that it was written by a man, too.

I think it is more likely to be a misguided and ill-informed attempt at getting into the escort business by someone who has not done their research, thinks it's a licence to print money and clearly knows nothing whatsoever about the industry. I suspect there will be a good few of these popping up and disappearing just as quickly, both for men and women. Either way, you will earn more money signing on, although if the gentleman featured is your sole competition, it might be worth having a crack at it ;D.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 24 October 2008, 04:56:48 pm
I've just had a look at the site too and it's clearly not finished; I suspect the 'escort' featured is either the owner, or one of his/her friends, as the 'description' part and so on is all still in draft form. I'm not sure it's a scam in the sense that we normally mean, I don't see any mention of registration fees or guaranteed bookings, and the home page does at least appear to be geared towards attracting clients. The whole thing screams that it was written by a man, too.

I think it is more likely to be a misguided and ill-informed attempt at getting into the escort business by someone who has not done their research, thinks it's a licence to print money and clearly knows nothing whatsoever about the industry. I suspect there will be a good few of these popping up and disappearing just as quickly, both for men and women. Either way, you will earn more money signing on, although if the gentleman featured is your sole competition, it might be worth having a crack at it ;D.

Scratch what I just said! In the small print, the site is keen to emphasise that the escorts featured on it are independent (although it's hard to see how when they are conducting interviews and so on), but they expect clients to pay the full fees online directly to THEM when making a booking; in other words at no time will you be receiving the cash up front which is the only way (with very few exceptions) that an escort booking should be conducted. Leaving aside the matter of if, how and when you yourself will get paid, no punter in their right mind (male or female) will be prepared to do this before they have even met the escort, at least on a site that screams it's proprietors clearly have no idea what they are doing.

I still don't think this is necessarily unscrupulous, just lazy, unresearched, extremely badly put together and very poorly organised. Give it a wide berth.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: duncan on 24 October 2008, 08:12:55 pm
don't do it. It's a scam. There is no work out there, and believe me I have tried. It's also cost me a fortune to learn my lesson.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 24 October 2008, 09:23:21 pm
don't do it. It's a scam. There is no work out there, and believe me I have tried. It's also cost me a fortune to learn my lesson.


The fact that women don't want or need to pay men to keep them company/have sex with them is a separate issue.

Thomas asked if we thought that this particular set-up was a scam, and I still don't think it necessarily is, even taking the payment method into account - it still looks to me like some idiot who hasn't done any research trying to set up a particularly badly-executed agency website. The main things wrong with it are centred round an obvious lack of knowledge relating to how escorting works.

If you have personal experience of this operation by all means post it, but it is completely unfair to tar every chancer who appears with the escortopia brush just because they're daft enough to think straight male escorts could get work. It's not that long since you thought the same thing.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Sasha on 25 October 2008, 08:21:36 am
Either way, you will earn more money signing on, although if the gentleman featured is your sole competition, it might be worth having a crack at it ;D.

I thought he was a catch!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: NottsEnticement on 28 October 2008, 03:11:28 pm

Hi everyone

I have had a good think about this and i will like to become a male escort.

I have looked on google and online and found 6-7 major sites which seem to offer this service.

After researchign into them all they are all scam sights with some shocking feedback on messages boards.

I couldnt believe it after joining one and quickly realizing it was true. Luckily i have not lost any money doing this.

Can everyone please recommend a well respected trusted escort company to join.

I live in the Midlands.

Thank you
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 28 October 2008, 03:35:29 pm
If you are straight and looking to escort women, you are wasting your time - the market is so small as to be non-existent, no matter what the scammers tell you. There is more information here: http://www.sw5.info/straightmen.htm (http://www.sw5.info/straightmen.htm). Women don't pay men to spend time with them whether it's for sex or not; think about it logically - why on earth would we, when we can get a shag for little more than the cost of a good bra and ten minutes spent laughing at your jokes ;D? Honestly, it's a no-brainer.

If you are gay then I'm no expert but I think gay male escorts tend to work more often as independents rather than for agencies - I'm sure someone who knows more about it than me will be along at some point!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Little Diamond on 28 October 2008, 10:24:48 pm
Amy!
The line about the bra! its so true and funny , I just spat my wine out!
I got an offer the other week ( non-punter) shag,outfit ( of his choice of course!) ,wine, "etc" and anything else i wanted   - and and he was good!! and of course, he was at no cost!!

LD 
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: UrbaneAspects on 29 October 2008, 02:41:15 am
If you are straight and looking to escort women, you are wasting your time  - why on earth would we, when we can get a shag for little more than the cost of a good bra and ten minutes spent laughing at your jokes ;D? Honestly, it's a no-brainer.
I'm sure someone who knows more about it than me will be along at some point!

LOL, that one just cracked me up  :D


Hi everyone

I have had a good think about this and i will like to become a male escort.

I live in the Midlands.

Thank you

well, like Amy said...if you're looking to escort women, its a miniscule market. you're better off 'escorting' a girl you like to a nightclub. otherwise, its not  possible. If you're gay (which I doubt you are otherwise you wouldnt be inquiring about where to find websites as most already have an idea as to where to find them) So which one is it?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Sasha on 29 October 2008, 04:40:13 pm
If you're looking to escort women you might want to look at these:

http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=402.0 (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=402.0)

http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=506.0 (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=506.0)

and

http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=124.0 (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=124.0)

xxx
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: pandora on 29 October 2008, 06:02:58 pm
Hi, I get quite a lot of requests for couple work.  The big but though is the guy has to be bi. 

The voyeur market for escort couples is also small but if you are willing to go"a bit gay", lol, either orally or the whole hog, (and have a ladyfriend escort in the local area), you might get some business.  I rather suspect this is not the answer you wanted though.

I have actually booked a male escort to join me and my boyfriend but he was useless.  I picked this particular one because he had an actual picture, and not a cock shot - there is nothing worse than a cock shot for advertising unless you are looking at the gay market.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: lexienight on 29 October 2008, 07:13:05 pm
.... and not a cock shot - there is nothing worse than a cock shot for advertising unless you are looking at the gay market.

I have to agree.... but they are funny dont you think??  :D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: UrbaneAspects on 30 October 2008, 03:26:55 am
there is nothing worse than a cock shot for advertising unless you are looking at the gay market.

yea...and even I think its ridiculous.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: cassie on 31 October 2008, 05:00:50 pm
Yep agree about the cock shot - when will men get it that women (all the ones I know anyway) are just not turned on by the display of male genitalia.

... and agree that there must be little call for male escorts, as there are very few women who need to do much more than bat their eyelashes prettily to get laid, lol
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: NottsEnticement on 03 November 2008, 10:36:24 am

Hi and thanks for the feedback and comments.

I am straight so answer the first questions. so its all new and i was just looking into it. I wanted a change in my life and i am so social that i am out every night anyway with friends and girls and one of my girl mates said you should get paid to give girls company cause people just like being around you...

So i thought, ah why not look into it.

However from the information provided here its not looking like a positive or workable idea!

I will have a read over the threads posted

:)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Violette on 03 November 2008, 04:54:13 pm
Hi,
I have worked with lots of male escorts, and the truth of the matter is you will need to determine if you are a giver or a receiver. Sorry but that is grim reality. In the male escorting world it is mostly men who are closet, bi-curious, or in denial about their sexuality, you will also get couples, but very rarely women on their own. And if you do get a woman who calls you up, take some re-enforcements, Viagra is one recommendation, seriously, because she will make you work for every penny she pays you! Also you don't want your erection to be dependent on desire. If you get my meaning.
Good luck Violette
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: andyw on 10 November 2008, 12:53:25 am
Hi my name is Andrew, please call me for advice on escorts, never pay for escorts untill you meet them feel free to call me at home on 01708 860060 always ask for a home number
Take care
Andrew x
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: lexienight on 10 November 2008, 01:27:54 am
Hi my name is Andrew, please call me for advice on escorts, never pay for escorts untill you meet them feel free to call me at home on 01708 860060 always ask for a home number
Take care
Andrew x

sorry andy, you have confussed me. what do you mean by advice on escorts?  majority of people on this forum are escorts so im not sure what advice you mean or can give us.  Also, you have offered your number, im just not sure who it is you want to call you and who your advice is aimed at and what that advice is actually about??

Sorry if im just being a bit dim, i just dont get it.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: LondonEvie on 10 November 2008, 01:37:42 am


sorry andy, you have confussed me. what do you mean by advice on escorts?  majority of people on this forum are escorts so im not sure what advice you mean or can give us.  Also, you have offered your number, im just not sure who it is you want to call you and who your advice is aimed at and what that advice is actually about??

Sorry if im just being a bit dim, i just dont get it.

I think he meant about escort agencies- never pay an agency til yuou see the escort and never pay an agency before a booking... i think? ???
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: lexienight on 10 November 2008, 01:46:45 am
Ok got it.  is he an agency owner then?  or an experianced punter?  You know me.... i need more information than that.   ;D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: BlkMystery on 29 April 2009, 12:55:16 am
I know you have probably answered this question before but man there is 43+ pages to scroll through and my computer is acting up... so anyone know any genuine agencies in the Greater london area and Herts?

all info very much apprieciated!

Thanks
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 29 April 2009, 01:55:47 am
I know you have probably answered this question before but man there is 43+ pages to scroll through and my computer is acting up... so anyone know any genuine agencies in the Greater london area and Herts?

all info very much apprieciated!

Thanks

You don't have to scroll through the whole site; there is a 'search' option above - just click on it and type in 'straight male escort' or similar.

You will see that one or more of us often posts links to a few of the dozens of threads and posts where this has already been covered, but I have done it so many times now even I'm sick of trying. I will give you this (http://www.sw5.info/straightmen.htm) though - it is all you basically need to know.

The short answer is no, incidentally - people don't ordinarily pay for what they can easily get for free, and this includes women who fancy a shag. Sorry, but anyone who tells you otherwise is more-than-likely talking bollocks because they want your money.

Have a read of the Scam Agencies bit on the main site too - just in case you are tempted to believe any of the drivelling sycophantic crap they'll tell you on the phone.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: UrbaneAspects on 29 April 2009, 03:03:41 am
I sent you a Personal Message Blk...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: UrbaneAspects on 29 April 2009, 08:43:06 am
Straight Male Escorts do exist!   ;D  ROFL!

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/aos/1145194913.html
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: europeandancer on 29 April 2009, 10:02:48 pm
I know you have probably answered this question before but man there is 43+ pages to scroll through and my computer is acting up... so anyone know any genuine agencies in the Greater london area and Herts?

all info very much apprieciated!

Thanks

NOT.
Please read my post in the "Acedemic/media queries and information" under the thread "MALE ESCORT SCAM"
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: BlkMystery on 01 May 2009, 01:16:35 am
Thank you for your posts. Looks like ill be setting up my own website and hey u never know.. .

Thanks for the email JoeyR, have taken onboard advice!.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: barney_49 on 13 January 2010, 11:33:01 pm
hi all im male need a bit of advice on escorting signed up to a agency and got scammed(maledatingsites.com)aka(exclusivecompanions.com) jus wondering if there are any agencies that are real if so what are they, around the oxfordshire area or close? got no money need some work rapido.

HELP!!!
KB


[Thread title edited for clarity]
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Anika Mae on 13 January 2010, 11:36:39 pm
Most male escorts work independently, try gaydar. If you don't want to do men, go to the jobcentre.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 14 January 2010, 08:40:15 am
Even if you do do men, you may have to move.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: UrbaneAspects on 14 January 2010, 08:49:31 am
If you don't want to do men, go to the jobcentre.

Spot on. Fortunently, I'd rather swallow c*ck and get f*cked at the same time than to step foot inside any job centre...Or at the very least I'd rather search online  :P
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: madman20091 on 11 February 2010, 09:48:24 pm
HELLO i am looking for work as a male escort. but every one who has contacted me is asking for money of some kind. i am a pastry chef by trade, lost my job and looking for a career change. i live in Colchester and looking for work in Colchester or London. dose anyone know of any agency's i have to pay no fees. please get back to me soon as possible thanks madman20091
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 11 February 2010, 09:52:09 pm
HELLO i am looking for work as a male escort. but every one who has contacted me is asking for money of some kind. i am a pastry chef by trade, lost my job and looking for a career change. i live in Colchester and looking for work in Colchester or London. dose anyone know of any agency's i have to pay no fees. please get back to me soon as possible thanks madman20091

Since this is the first time we have had one of these posts in well over 24 hours, I'm going to take a deep breath and give you the benefit of the doubt; in other words, I am assuming that you have read through the main site and the relevant threads on this forum and are therefore fully aware that the prospects of a straight man hoping to escort women are zero, and the idea is a complete non-starter.

As a gay or bi man wanting to become an escort providing services to other men, I think your options agency-wise are limited; most guys work independently AFAIK (although there may be something if you are in or near London). There are a few advertising sites you could try, and getting a website organised isn't too difficult - probably less expensive than you think too! You could also have a go at building one yourself - some of the ladies on here have done that and I'm sure will be happy to help if you get stuck.

We do have a couple of guys posting on here who could assist you with any bloke-specific queries, but the job is pretty much of a muchness gender-wise and if there is anything you want advice about, just post your questions on the main board and we'll all do our best to help. The articles on the main site about law, tax, STDs and so on apply to everyone and should be your first stop if you haven't looked already.

Hope this is helpful, and welcome to SAAFE!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: anonymoussw on 12 February 2010, 04:48:06 pm
HELLO i am looking for work as a male escort. but every one who has contacted me is asking for money of some kind. i am a pastry chef by trade, lost my job and looking for a career change. i live in Colchester and looking for work in Colchester or London. dose anyone know of any agency's i have to pay no fees. please get back to me soon as possible thanks madman20091

Since this is the first time we have had one of these posts in well over 24 hours, I'm going to take a deep breath and give you the benefit of the doubt; in other words, I am assuming that you have read through the main site and the relevant threads on this forum and are therefore fully aware that the prospects of a straight man hoping to escort women are zero, and the idea is a complete non-starter.

As a gay or bi man wanting to become an escort providing services to other men, I think your options agency-wise are limited; most guys work independently AFAIK (although there may be something if you are in or near London). There are a few advertising sites you could try, and getting a website organised isn't too difficult - probably less expensive than you think too! You could also have a go at building one yourself - some of the ladies on here have done that and I'm sure will be happy to help if you get stuck.

We do have a couple of guys posting on here who could assist you with any bloke-specific queries, but the job is pretty much of a muchness gender-wise and if there is anything you want advice about, just post your questions on the main board and we'll all do our best to help. The articles on the main site about law, tax, STDs and so on apply to everyone and should be your first stop if you haven't looked already.

Hope this is helpful, and welcome to SAAFE!

Who wants to bet that Amy's optimism is unfounded?  :P
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 12 February 2010, 04:56:11 pm
Who wants to bet that Amy's optimism is unfounded?  :P

I know ;D

I'm hoping this thread stays on the front page just so it gives us somewhere for all these sort of bloody posts to go, tbh. I've a feeling I'll still be moving most of them myself, mind  ::).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 12 February 2010, 06:04:06 pm
Since this is the first time we have had one of these posts in well over 24 hours,

ROFL.

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the prospects of a straight man hoping to escort women are zero, and the idea is a complete non-starter.

To be fair, I would say 'hoping to escort women as a career are zero', but yes, this is why there are no real straight male agencies.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: pandora on 13 February 2010, 09:08:34 pm
Just had another client today that reckons that he should sign up as a male escort! Sure that there is a market for "a good looking guy who would escort ladies to dinner and show them a good time".  And they also think they are hot stuff in bed as I "obviously" was overwhelmed with orgasms from their efforts - LMAO!

If only I had a ?100 for every client under 40, (who is half way decent), that says that, I would not need to work.  Dream on.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: anonymoussw on 14 February 2010, 02:32:24 am
I'm hoping this thread stays on the front page just so it gives us somewhere for all these sort of bloody posts to go, tbh. I've a feeling I'll still be moving most of them myself, mind  ::).


Does SMF (the forum software) not allow you to sticky threads so that they stay at the top?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 14 February 2010, 08:18:32 am
Does SMF (the forum software) not allow you to sticky threads so that they stay at the top?

Of course it does, for topics that are important enough for everyone to need to read, or that serve a particular purpose as in here (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2259.0). I'm surprised it didn't occur to you to look.

This thread, lets not kid ourselves, is a repository - if we're lucky some might read it before posting but as stated before, it would be supremely optimistic to think it will make much difference to those it's aimed at. After all, blind optimism and a total absence of self awareness and common sense is what keeps the scammers in business.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: anonymoussw on 14 February 2010, 10:11:59 am
I'm surprised it didn't occur to you to look.

Right, right, blonde moment...  ;D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: UrbaneAspects on 15 February 2010, 12:49:24 am
I dont know...now that Heidi Fleiss is coming out with that male brothel in Nevada...serving women, we might just be wrong...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 15 February 2010, 08:15:31 am
Have there been any non-journo female customers at that place yet?

Also, there do seem to be a few self-styled straight male prostitutes about, although naturally no one can vouch for their realness as all their clients are sooo 'upscale and discreet'. I suspect the faux-ho explanation but if they really are what they say? They probably get one or two clients per month, which is nice pocket money but not livable. And they'd have to be perfect male specimins, not creeps or douchebags cos women are already tired of fending them off, but intelligent and hilarious and good to talk to so they can create chemistry with anyone. 

I'm still really interested in seeing what happens to that poor man in Nevada. Has he got any cowokers yet? I always picture him sitting in that brothel alone. :(
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: anonymoussw on 15 February 2010, 08:23:49 am
Have there been any non-journo female customers at that place yet?

Also, there do seem to be a few self-styled straight male prostitutes about, although naturally no one can vouch for their realness as all their clients are sooo 'upscale and discreet'. I suspect the faux-ho explanation but if they really are what they say? They probably get one or two clients per month, which is nice pocket money but not livable. And they'd have to be perfect male specimins, not creeps or douchebags cos women are already tired of fending them off, but intelligent and hilarious and good to talk to so they can create chemistry with anyone. 

I'm still really interested in seeing what happens to that poor man in Nevada. Has he got any cowokers yet? I always picture him sitting in that brothel alone. :(

They probably take it up the bum to make ends meet, and see the odd female client from time to time...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: UrbaneAspects on 15 February 2010, 09:23:15 am
They probably take it up the bum to make ends meet, and see the odd female client from time to time...

LOL, Effing hilarious...

Has anyone ever gone on craigslist and seen the men who post for women? Some of them show pics of their cocks lol. I feel sorry for them though because I deal with enough timewasters and idiots from craigslist advertising for men...Its like doing something in the back of newspapers. I cant imagine paying $10 everytime I want to post just to be made a fool out of.

But I will say (not to brag) last night I was totally awestruck when a girl at the bar (may have been a trans, but I doubt it!) told me flat out, "you're beautiful". Women do go crazy over male strippers though LOL!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 15 February 2010, 11:17:16 am
Also, there do seem to be a few self-styled straight male prostitutes about, although naturally no one can vouch for their realness as all their clients are sooo 'upscale and discreet'. I suspect the faux-ho explanation but if they really are what they say? They probably get one or two clients per month, which is nice pocket money but not livable.

Mmmm. One of them is currently starting an straight male agency. Good luck to them (now they have finally been convinced not to charge the staff something up front - and for a CRB check, wtf) but I cannot see it being viable.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 19 May 2010, 09:10:47 am
Coronation Street probably has a lot to answer for, and will be feeding the scammers quite nicely thank you. I've also had several clients ask me over the years if they could be a male escort, wanting advice on setting up a website etc. Also had chaps from AW as well as specialist site asking me for tips on improving their business - or lack of it!

I give a straight answer i.e. NO DEMAND FOR MALE ESCORTS DESPITE WHAT POPULAR MEDIA CLAIM. They act as if I'm being a spoil sport, trying to stop them from not 'requiring' my services or being unhelpful.

Sorry guys but show me one successful, straight, male escort and I will eat my hat. Of course our idea of 'success' is different to theirs. Guys say they would be happy with just 1 or 2 bookings a month - you know a free sh@g and a few extra pounds. Well if you are prepared to sit around, spend money on advertising and travel etc, take TW calls, promote your website and then of course not be picky who you see - then you MIGHT get it eventually. One chap on AW asked me to look at his profile see where he was going wrong. Well he'd been advertising for twice as long as I have been on there and had only had 10% of my views and those were highly likely to be the women he'd booked checking him out.

The best ones are those who contact me offering to work with me offering a 'couple' service. I have a waiting list of volunteers to join me if I ever get asked for such a booking. Think I get about 2 enquiries every 6 months for that sort of scenario, and then they require the guy to be bi (only 1 of my volunteers may be this way inclined).

When Ms Harman was clamping down on newspaper ads and organisations that could be trafficking people she nicely overlooked the fact that the media themselves encourage these scamsters. Yes the very magazines carrying articles about female journalists booking male Escorts as those that carry ads for money-upfront scam agencies. Well they did the last time I checked! ::)

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: cindy on 20 May 2010, 03:11:45 am
Oh get this.... theres a straight male escort website where they can post about how many bookings they have not had. And also ponder where the good looking middle aged women are who dont have time to buy a frock and go out to meet a man of thier own choosing! FFS LOL.  Iwill not make any Eygpt jokes as like in de Nile.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: kidd88 on 03 June 2010, 07:24:26 pm
Hi I recently decided i would like to try my hand at becoming a male escort, but having done alot of research on the internet I discovered that most websites claiming to be successful male and female escorting agencies are actually just scam sites looking to ripp people off. Of coarse I am now very unsure of where to go and how to find a legitimate agency that wont try to scam me. I found this site and think it would be a good place for sound advice, so if anyone could recommend some good ligitimate agencies that hire male escorts whithout any bogus fees and scams, I would be very appriciative.
Thanx
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 03 June 2010, 07:37:36 pm
Just wait til the mods see this. Before you get a spanking I would advise a search on 'male escorts' and 'scams'.

To cut to the chase - there isn't hardly any demand for straight males so unless you are gay, you really are not going to get many bookings. The reason there are so many scams for Male Escorts is because they make more money from taking ?300 from you than they would if you worked for them. The few males taken on by legit agents are almost always gay.

Sorry.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: sammy s on 03 June 2010, 07:44:45 pm
If you are gay then there is probably a lot of work for you in somewhere like London. I've always been independent so have no idea about agencies but have you ever thought about being independent as you would get to keep all of the money for yourself. If you dont have your own place to do incalls you can use hotels. There are lots in London that are discreet etc.
I have a couple of gay friends who escort in London and they both make a lot of money every month.

If you are straight then I would say you have a 1% chance max of making any money.
My ex tried to do it and he is very good looking and used to be a model for GAP. He advertised on all of the big sites and had very reasonable prices. He still got no bookings apart from one old woman who just wanted a kiss and a cuddle for ?10.
It is quite rare for women to pay for sex which is why there is no market for male escorts. If a woman is desperate for sex it is so easy for them to pull in a nightclub. Or they have the option of using some amazing sex toys to fulfil their needs.

Good luck x
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 03 June 2010, 09:05:30 pm
Hi I recently decided i would like to try my hand at becoming a male escort, but having done alot of research on the internet I discovered that most websites claiming to be successful male and female escorting agencies are actually just scam sites looking to ripp people off. Of coarse I am now very unsure of where to go and how to find a legitimate agency that wont try to scam me. I found this site and think it would be a good place for sound advice, so if anyone could recommend some good ligitimate agencies that hire male escorts whithout any bogus fees and scams, I would be very appriciative.
Thanx

*yawns, stretches*

Assuming you are not gay (in which case you would probably be better working independently, and the best thing to do is read the main site) the best research you can do is by reading the rest of this thread or one of the many, many others you will find by searching for straight men or male escorting (use the Search tool on the top right) to find out exactly how and why a man hoping to escort women for a living has more chance of plaiting fog, and better earning prospects on Jobseekers Allowance.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: cindy on 04 June 2010, 11:46:08 am
Sweetie, just put "male escort forum" into google. It will take you to a forum thats dedicated to straight man-hos.
They sit around planning thier marketing strategies there and such. Oh and tell them we are doing a whip round for them and other deserving charities. Good luck!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: cassie on 07 June 2010, 12:52:31 am
They probably take it up the bum to make ends meet, and see the odd female client from time to time...

Cinicysm in one so young! (tut, tut, tut) ;)

I still get email updates for jobs in the local area from fish4jobs and one that appears every couple of days is advertising for male and female social escorts. The myth just doesn't seem to die.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: alexcarter on 08 June 2010, 12:28:58 pm
I know its been said a million times but judging by this thread and the emails i get men will just not accept that
No woman will ever pay to have sex with a man, Even the ugliest, rudest woman in the world (harman?widdecombe?) can get free sex any night of the week simply by simply walking into a bar and fluttering her eyelids, Its just the way is. ::)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Richard on 08 June 2010, 01:41:23 pm
No woman will ever pay to have sex with a man

"There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead."

It is true that very very few do, but just because you would not does not mean that no-one does.

Even the ugliest, rudest woman in the world (harman?widdecombe?) can get free sex any night of the week simply by simply walking into a bar and fluttering her eyelids, Its just the way is. ::)

Even the ugliest, rudest man in the world can get their cock sucked (or more) simply by walking into the right bar, but men still pay for a variety of reasons.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: cindy on 08 June 2010, 03:16:40 pm
Im not disputing the fact that women may pay for the companionship side of things. But by the time shes been in town looking for a new frock, she could have made 5 new mates online!
I wouldnt pay a man for sex simply because we are wired differently and think it would lead to disappointment from both parties.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 08 June 2010, 06:14:19 pm
Im not disputing the fact that women may pay for the companionship side of things. But by the time shes been in town looking for a new frock, she could have made 5 new mates online!
I wouldnt pay a man for sex simply because we are wired differently and think it would lead to disappointment from both parties.

I dunno, I'm pretty sure there are women who struggle to find a sexual partner. At least, a handsome, tongue-talented, kind and caring one. The latter are fairly rare and are just as likely to think they should only have sex with model-ish girls as model-ish girls are likely to only want to have sex with good-looking charming men. So... I think the idea of paying someone for a really good bedroom experience can appeal to any gender. I believe many women over 40, over 50 or over 60 can feel invisible to the opposite sex. Sure, we're all hot'n'horny women here but I really don't think every other women in the world gets laid as much as she might like to. The whole idea of men having a voracious sexual appetite for anything with a pulse and women having a ladylike attitude of 'lie back and think of England, if you have to do it at all' is nonsense, as we all know. It's even my personal theory that in all these marriages I keep hearing about (where the wife meanly withholds sex from her darling innocent hubby) are probably just rubbish cos they don't fancy each other anymore. But nobody wants to talk about that after the 20th anniversary, maybe - better to just put up with it and do a bit of mutual cheating - for the sake of the children!

On the other hand... women are definitely socialised to want 'more' from a sexual partner. I mean, we are the ones who are at risk of ending up with a foetus to look after for two decades so I suppose it makes sense that we should be the ones to exercise more caution. Unfair sense, but oh well, that's biology! To drag my rambling back to paid sex... paying for No Strings Attached sex might not seem to make any sense to some women. Even though they might be the same ones who would happily marry for money and stability. Oh, I dunno, people are horribly complicated. I just don't think there are as huge divides between what men want and what women want as some people think. I meet many, many clients who I secretly think might just be looking for a meaningful relationship on the wrong website, no matter how much they declare that they LOVE random prossie sex. And equally, there are loads of women who aren't into lovemaking+marriage or whatever the traditional thing is and would find paying a hot young stud totally erotic. Paying for sex or having sex for money can be exciting for some people, boring for some people or mind-bogglingly immoral for some people. The gender divide isn't really relevant there except that obviously men and women are 'expected' to do different things. But times are always a-changin' and the sooner gender expectations just die the better!

Right, I don't know what I'm going on about anymore or why I started so I'm going to finally stop there. :P
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Richard on 08 June 2010, 08:23:24 pm
I just don't think there are as huge divides between what men want and what women want as some people think.

One big reason is the same for both men and women: escorts are not going to say "no" in public (the "how not to book.." thread contestants aside!) So while it is true that a woman could find someone in a bar who would bed her, the prospect of being turned down, in public, puts most off trying. Unless they're drunk. How many people want a drunk woman in bed with them? No, I don't want to think about that. How many people that you would want to bed would want a drunk woman?

The "they are not going to tell anyone" and "I am in charge" (ha!) and "they are probably better than average" issues are much the same too.

I remember reading about a woman in Paris who challenged a gay man to a "who can get laid first" contest. She went out in a fur coat and not much else, propositioned any male she saw, and lost.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: alexcarter on 08 June 2010, 10:17:44 pm
Quote
"There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead."
I dont understand?
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It is true that very very few do, but just because you would not does not mean that no-one does.
Im a male, and i know for a fact they would not,

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Even the ugliest, rudest man in the world can get their cock sucked (or more) simply by walking into the right bar, but men still pay for a variety of reasons.
This is false unless money is involved and an army of guys would back me up. Men pay because they cant have sex with someone who's attractive or a lot younger than them without paying, or their wife dont want to experiment sexually, nothing to do with companionship etc.
Name me one other reason???
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 09 June 2010, 12:51:18 am
I dont understand?

Allow me. 'Mostly' means a high proportion or probability of something but not all of it. 'All' means, well, all of it, as in in it's entirety with no exceptions whatsoever. In other words, making sweeping generalisations which you cannot possibly substantiate is simplistic, inaccurate and wrong. Richard is an extremely intelligent and articulate individual who has obviously not noticed your previous posts, and thus was probably not aware that it was necessary to keep his responses very, very simple.

Im a male, and i know for a fact they would not,

Horseshit. I have no doubt from your posting that you are a male, but this statement is ridiculous; you have not met and interrogated every woman in the world and to state that you know this to be a 'fact' is beyond moronic. How do you propose to back up this 'fact' and what is your source? Or are you trying to say you have done this? Out of interest, what did I say when you asked me?

This is false unless money is involved and an army of guys would back me up. Men pay because they cant have sex with someone who's attractive or a lot younger than them without paying, or their wife dont want to experiment sexually, nothing to do with companionship etc.
Name me one other reason???

Total and utter crap, and your 'army of guys' would need to be as ignorant and ill informed as you. Everyone can get lucky occasionally. And there are far, far too many reasons why men pay for sex for your evidently tiny mind to ever be able to comprehend; the world is a diverse place and to say that all men are the same and are motivated by the same things is patronising, offensive rubbish. Just because you've obviously had no luck doesn't mean others haven't fared better. Why not try reading the thread/post you are responding to properly ? Or even engaging brain before logging in?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Richard on 09 June 2010, 04:37:56 pm
Thank you Amy :)

The quote was from The Princess Bride, BTW, and if anyone else thinks the any man can get sucked for free thought is "inconceivable!!", they are invited to visit their local gay scene's darkrooms or glory holes or cruising grounds.

It will almost always be a man doing the sucking, but it will be too dark or there's a wall stopping you seeing that. I've also known women use the cruising area of Hampstead Heath to get laid anonymously. 

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: DisCode on 10 June 2010, 01:10:18 pm
Hey just reading the info on here! Me trying to be an male escort I am finding it hard. I'm just starting and all I have done so far is put myself on AW. Signed up to what I thought was an agency and wanted ?90 sent straight to them. Good thing I did see the links to agency that are scams. Me personally right now I think it's sad that there isn't really much of an male escort website. Not putting AW down but it's seems you got much chance if your an woman. I'm not gay either and I'm trying to get into swingers clubs as well to see if that will help. Weird question though, I was told by an female escort that I should sign up to the gay one and just allow men to just give me BJ's. To me that seems an bit ... strange. But that really an good start you think? Thanks for any advice that can be given! 
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 10 June 2010, 01:34:34 pm
Hey just reading the info on here! Me trying to be an male escort I am finding it hard. I'm just starting and all I have done so far is put myself on AW. Signed up to what I thought was an agency and wanted ?90 sent straight to them. Good thing I did see the links to agency that are scams. Me personally right now I think it's sad that there isn't really much of an male escort website. Not putting AW down but it's seems you got much chance if your an woman. I'm not gay either and I'm trying to get into swingers clubs as well to see if that will help. Weird question though, I was told by an female escort that I should sign up to the gay one and just allow men to just give me BJ's. To me that seems an bit ... strange. But that really an good start you think? Thanks for any advice that can be given! 

Oh dear. Can somebody who doesn't have a BlackBerry in one hand while shovelling chips with the other please point miladdo towards the Straight Male Escorts thread, since it seems to have completely passed him by.

In a nutshell, men pay for sex, DisCode. Women do not. If you want to be an escort, best start practising your blow jobs.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: DisCode on 10 June 2010, 02:12:01 pm
Saying that Amy I have known an few women who have paid for it. And like I said in the post the female escort said that some gay people just like to give the escort an BJ. Not me giving them one. Also I hate blackberrys! (Nokia N900 been used.)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 10 June 2010, 02:27:50 pm
Saying that Amy I have known an few women who have paid for it. And like I said in the post the female escort said that some gay people just like to give the escort an BJ. Not me giving them one. Also I hate blackberrys! (Nokia N900 been used.)

So have I; a couple of ladies on here have even posted about it. Mostly it was shite but I do remember one lady had a good time, although that was thanks to a qualified masseuse who obviously knew what to do with his hands - I doubt he got much out of it and there is no reason why he should as being a successful prostitute is about pleasing your customer, not yourself. You may get a few jobs from men who only want to give you a blow job, but why would they flock to you when there are plenty of genuinely gay men out there who won't flinch at anything more than that?

If you think you know better than everyone else on this board (and the fact that you mentioned swinging says a great deal about your preconceived beliefs regarding what we do and why we do it) then go right ahead. There's plenty of advice on here about building a website and so on, so even though you're unlikely to make a red cent you might learn some useful transferable skills.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 10 June 2010, 02:37:41 pm
Saying that Amy I have known an few women who have paid for it. And like I said in the post the female escort said that some gay people just like to give the escort an BJ. Not me giving them one. Also I hate blackberrys! (Nokia N900 been used.)

Okay, let's be fair. There's got to be at least a dozen women in Britain who are active clients of male escorts. That's loads! Now, just divide that dozen between the 20,000 men who are hoping to get paid for sex and you're left with a good estimate of your likely profit. Subtract a little if you are a young man who would describe yourself as "a stud" because I'd imagine most women would like someone mature, trustworthy, reliable and experienced, instead. But if you keep paying for expensive websites, pictures and adverts, you'll probably meet at least one female client in the next 10 years. So don't lose hope!*

(*Sorry, you probably should lose hope.)

Being gay for pay is not uncommon. I'd do it but it would probably be unconvincing and clients can find real bisexual escorts all over the place so I doubt there's a market for my efforts. Anyway, so I don't know much about it except you probably shouldn't mention in your advertising (for male clients to give you a BJ without the favour being returned) that you think they are "strange". Being part of the sex industry actually means being extremely open to the infinite varieties of human sexuality and being sensitive about them even if it's not your cup of tea. Just being a regular young male homophobe isn't really going to make you stand out amongst your competition on either gay or straight sites, is it?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: DisCode on 10 June 2010, 02:43:41 pm
Ok let me make it clear. I was given this advice FROM an female escort who is an friend of mine. And she was saying this would be the best way about going about it.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 10 June 2010, 02:55:32 pm
Ok let me make it clear. I was given this advice FROM an female escort who is an friend of mine. And she was saying this would be the best way about going about it.

Your friend was saying that the only way you will possibly earn money as an escort is by providing sexual services to men, which is entirely correct and no-one has said otherwise. I have also replied to your PM, and it has been suggested that you read the articles on the main site which is about the full extent of our remit considering you clearly don't want to listen.

EDIT: Posts moved to appropriate thread.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 10 June 2010, 06:46:52 pm
Weird question though, I was told by an female escort that I should sign up to the gay one and just allow men to just give me BJ's. To me that seems an bit ... strange. But that really an good start you think?

As everyone has said, it is the only way you're likely to make any money (and even then, not enough to quit any day job for).

It's a fetish on the gay scene, especially if you can do the 'scally' look. In this context, AW is probably not the place for you (too many other straight male optimists to stand out) and GS is very quiet - look for something more specialist on other gay-specific sites. It would certainly get you used to having sex with people you are not attracted to.

Okay, let's be fair. There's got to be at least a dozen women in Britain who are active clients of male escorts. That's loads! Now, just divide that dozen between the 20,000 men who are hoping to get paid for sex and you're left with a good estimate of your likely profit.

<3, as ever.

you probably shouldn't mention in your advertising (for male clients to give you a BJ without the favour being returned) that you think they are "strange". .. Just being a regular young male homophobe isn't really going to make you stand out amongst your competition on either gay or straight sites, is it?

While also amusing, I think this is a tiny bit over the top. I didn't read it as homophobic, and 'I wouldn't normally let strange men do this' etc is part of the scally appeal, apparently. Pleasure and danger.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 11 June 2010, 09:47:47 am
While also amusing, I think this is a tiny bit over the top. I didn't read it as homophobic, and 'I wouldn't normally let strange men do this' etc is part of the scally appeal, apparently. Pleasure and danger.

Fair enough. Having slept on it, I can definitely see that an overall dislike of this character made me jump to conclusions. And what's the point of disliking people over the Internet? I shall get on with my life now. ;D And honestly, I think this guy was just a little naive and confused, and there is so much conflicting information out there, what with those forums set up for "successful male escorts" to share their wisdom with wannabes (and recommend that they pay to be featured on xyz nonsense directory site) on one hand and then poor SAAFE on the other end trying to actually help people. It's a frustrating state of affairs!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 12 June 2010, 10:14:12 am
I can see why he might think it strange that someone would pay 'just' to give someone pleasure / could have a good sexual time without orgasming themselves - the average straight man's sexual history (and with apologies to anyone who thinks this is heterophobic!) includes numerous examples of being the one whose pleasure matters / the only one to come / the only one to get eaten etc etc.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: jonnysurfdude on 21 June 2010, 08:00:45 pm
Hi my names Jonny and im new to this and am looking for work.

Me and my girlfriend have been really struggling recently and she came up with the idea that I do male escorting as long as there was no sex involved, I was a little wierded out by it but thought why not, i've never had trouble with meeting beautifull women, I have a great body, a great personality and good looks so im told.
My girlfriend decided to sign me up to all these escort agencies online and gave out my number and e mail etc and this morning I recieved a few different calls from companies, asking for me to pay a fee, I asked why they needed a fee and they told me that other agencies can phone up pretending to be escorts looking for work and that escorts have let them down in the past also, making the company look bad and making them lose clients. This to be fair, sounded a legitimate reason to ask for a fee, but I was worried about losing my money still, if I did hand over the fee.

I'm just wondering what I should do, does anyone have any advice on companies they have worked for that where legit, any advice where I can find real work etc, for all I know, this site could be set up by another company trying to make all other companies look bad ha ha, it's all so confusing and is a full time job in itself looking through all the bullshit, i'm completely lost and need help???? Please  ???
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 21 June 2010, 08:07:33 pm
Jonny, put your money away. There are NO legit straight male escorting agencies that will find you any work, and social only 'companion' escorting jobs are non-existent whether you're male or female. Please read the rest of this thread, and for future reference read this (http://www.saafe.info/scam_agency.html) too.

If this isn't enough, try typing 'male escort' or 'straight male escort' into the Search box on the top right, but to be honest, if you need money your time would be far better employed looking through the jobs section of your local rag.

*goes off to bang head against wall*
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: anjali on 21 June 2010, 08:13:41 pm

I received a few different calls from companies, asking for me to pay a fee, I asked why they needed a fee and they told me that other agencies can phone up pretending to be escorts looking for work and that escorts have let them down in the past also, making the company look bad and making them lose clients. This to be fair, sounded a legitimate reason to ask for a fee, but I was worried about losing my money still, if I did hand over the fee.

And another legitimate reason could be Anne Wydecombe and her pals have realised that they no longer need to pay to hook a date so the agency cant make any money pimping you out. Funny how its only those catering for male escorts get this problem.
Actually if you do believe their reason, I have 5 million in cash, I cant bank myself because of the UK tax liability, but with you and a few friends, I'm sure we could split it up a bit, just send me your bank details and ill give you a cut.



I'm just wondering what I should do, does anyone have any advice on companies they have worked for that where legit, any advice where I can find real work etc, for all I know, this site could be set up by another company trying to make all other companies look bad ha ha, it's all so confusing and is a full time job in itself looking through all the bullshit, I'm completely lost and need help????

You have looked over the whole site and you honestly think that?  ::)

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: jonnysurfdude on 21 June 2010, 08:39:38 pm
Well thanks for everyones constructive advice..........I think??? Amy was probably the only nice feedback I got and as for doubting the website, it was a joke, I was just stating that there is so much confusion on the net that it's hard to know what to believe, like I said, i'm new to this, you guys are obviously veterans and think im just stupid, it's easy to look stupid when you know absolutally nothing about a subject, which is why im here in the first place, to enlighten myself, thanks  :'(
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 21 June 2010, 08:48:13 pm
Well thanks for everyones constructive advice..........I think??? Amy was probably the only nice feedback I got and as for doubting the website, it was a joke, I was just stating that there is so much confusion on the net that it's hard to know what to believe, like I said, i'm new to this, you guys are obviously veterans and think im just stupid, it's easy to look stupid when you know absolutally nothing about a subject, which is why im here in the first place, to enlighten myself, thanks  :'(

We don't think you're stupid as such, but it was clear you hadn't made any effort whatsoever to search through the forum or read the main site, and bearing in mind that we get this a lot (you're not even the first today and I could cut and paste you two dozen similar threads, but this one (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=1889.0) is by far the funniest  ;D), it does get extremely frustrating for the ladies here when all of this information is right there in front of you.

If you need a job badly, PM me - I might be able to think of some places that could help. It's summer, for Gawds sake.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: anjali on 21 June 2010, 08:54:44 pm
Yes Amy got it,

as for the joke, sorry but I didnt agree with your sence of humour, now advice I always offer for those looking for work, with little outlay, is set up a window cleaning round, pays cash and people always need clean windows.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: jonnysurfdude on 21 June 2010, 09:06:27 pm
Does this forum link people from the same areas, im completely lost ha ha.

Cos I just clicked on Amy's link and shes from the same area as me, yes im being dumb again probably, which im sure you will point out, I didn't read the site properly, just thought i'd jump straight in and start asking questions.

I wanted to get into escorting because the money seems too good to be true.

Amy I can't believe you parade it so openly on your website, no offence ment, but it was a bit of a shock when I clicked on your link  :)

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 21 June 2010, 09:10:48 pm
Jonny, I'm a working prostitute based in Scarborough, and have been for a good few years. I operate responsibly, legitimately and entirely within the law and work hard running a very successful business. Hopefully the fact that I am still doing so and that you were completely unaware of this ought to give you some indication that I do know what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 21 June 2010, 09:13:05 pm
Jonny, I'm a working prostitute based in Scarborough, and have been for a good few years. I operate responsibly, legitimately and entirely within the law and work hard running a very successful business. Hopefully the fact that I am still doing so and that you were completely unaware of this ought to give you some indication that I do know what I'm talking about.

And I'm by no means the only one in Scarborough - it might surprise you to know that virtually every tinpot town from Lands End to John O'Groats has it's resident prossie. They are all providing services to MEN.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Amanda on 21 June 2010, 09:15:22 pm
My girlfriend decided to sign me up to all these escort agencies online and gave out my number and e mail etc

I don't suppose your girlfriend is a Coronation street fan is she?



Yours

John O'Groats' resident prossie  ;D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: jonnysurfdude on 21 June 2010, 09:17:15 pm
I don't doubt that for a second, im just a little shocked, i've never seen anything like this before, especially didn't have any idea there was anything like this on my own doorstep.

I say if you enjoy your work and it's paying the bills and then some, then good on ya.

I am very greatfull for the advice  :o lol
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 21 June 2010, 11:02:58 pm
Johnny

Yes those who live in certain, more rural areas are usually quite surprised. Me?Well I had an inkling for years there were prossies around even in my small place. Just didn't know how to start up until I finally ran a search on the internet.

Funnily enough a lot of guys still presume it's illegal  - when it never has been in this country and I have even been asked on the phone if it's all a police set up. ::)

No it's not and a lot of us actually pay tax and NI(I do for a start), and yes I do tell the tax people exactly what I do as do thousands of other women around the country.

Back onto the topic the number of times chaps ask re straight male escorting is pretty shocking considering there is virtually no market. Even better those I do explain this to think I'm just being a spoil sport. No-one has come back yet and proved me wrong. There is a tiny demand and then I'm told it's mostly in London.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Enrique Suarez on 01 July 2010, 12:16:59 am
Hey Guys

I could do with a little bit of advice, I have wanted to pursue a lifestyle as a male companion, but understand the risks involved in signing up to agencies. I therefore have set up a web address advertising my services this afternoon. So far I only had one call which was just an inquiry (no booking).  I would appreciate some feedback on my website and the best way to promote my site...

 http://enriquesuarez.moonfruit.com

Cheers

Enrique
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 01 July 2010, 12:21:23 am
Enrique, please read the rest of this thread, and then congratulate yourself that the Moonfruit site didn't cost anything.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: UrbaneAspects on 01 July 2010, 05:30:28 am
Me and my girlfriend have been really struggling recently and she came up with the idea that I do male escorting as long as there was no sex involved,

My God...where have I been? I totally lost track of this thread. I wish I had caught it earlier...

Anyhow, in no way does this offend the professional ladies here on the forum (and please spare the stoning but..) I'm sorry your girlfriend is trying to REVERSE THE ROLES! How the hell is she going to try and pimp YOU out? I would tell that ho to dress up and SHE do the escorting. She has a much better chance of making money than you do selling to other women. What brillant idea of her to come up with turning you into a prostitute. She should be thinking of that herself  >:( And she is a stupid woman anyhow to say "as long as sex isn't involved". Well how the hell are you supposed to make money? Was she referring you to be having sex with other women, or men? Because you damn sure wont get far not having sex with other men  >:(

Enrique, please read the rest of this thread, and then congratulate yourself that the Moonfruit site didn't cost anything.

Awww, Enrique is such a cutie  :-[

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: cindy on 01 July 2010, 08:48:17 am
Hey Guys

I could do with a little bit of advice, I have wanted to pursue a lifestyle as a male companion, but understand the risks involved in signing up to agencies. I therefore have set up a web address advertising my services this afternoon. So far I only had one call which was just an inquiry (no booking).  I would appreciate some feedback on my website and the best way to promote my site...

 http://enriquesuarez.moonfruit.com

Cheers

Enrique

I hope you follow Amys advice and read the thread. When it comes to escorting women its a different kettle of fish entirely.
As Joey said you are cute but still I doubt you will make money. The reason being women do NOT pay for sex or dates. If I was a wealthy business woman I would get a new frock and simply walk past a building site!
Tis men who hire escorts both male and female which is why Joey is successful ie he sees guys.
Men have basically two options if not for us. Some internet porn or risk the town slapper turning into a bunny boiler. With women you are competing with retail therapy, beauty treatments, new shoes/handbag, sex toys, a tub of icecream and a good book, or pick up a man in a bar, and yes in that order!
Please take heed. Right im off to do one of Emilys "head desks" lol.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 01 July 2010, 09:04:09 am
The reason being women do NOT pay for sex or dates. If I was a wealthy business woman I would get a new frock and simply walk past a building site!
Tis men who hire escorts both male and female which is why Joey is successful ie he sees guys.
Men have basically two options if not for us. Some internet porn or risk the town slapper turning into a bunny boiler. With women you are competing with retail therapy, beauty treatments, new shoes/handbag, sex toys, or pick up a man in a bar, and yes in that order!

Well, I don't know if getting my hair cut or buying useless crap I don't need is QUITE the same as an orgasm, thank you Ms Cindy LadyStereotypes ;) but I think the main problem is that I can (and sometimes do) approach any one of my male friends (wot are intelligent and not in the habit of harassing women on the street) and request some casual sex and 75% of the time he'll say yes (the ones that don't tend to mistakenly think I've asked for their hand in marriage, or are gay and I make a right pillock of myself, or are just in lurrrrve with a girl crush, bless 'em). So when men stop believing that they ought to be doin' secks 24/7 (and therefore agreeing to do it with just about anybody) is when straight male prostitutes might start to make money.

Please take heed. Right im off to do one of Emilys "head desks" lol.

Ha. I've given myself some brain damage from all my headdesking these past few days so watch your skull. ;D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Enrique Suarez on 01 July 2010, 11:05:12 am
Hey Guys,

 Thank you Cindy and Emily for your comments. Firstly I would like to point out that I do have a job and only considering escorting as an extra bit of pocket money on the side (compared to some of the other posts I have seen).

 After viewing the threads I do understand that there are a lot of of men which including myself assume that women would pay the services for a companion. But who can blame our simple-minded assumption when they are so called agencies around claiming to be a legitimate business stating the opposite, and viewing testimonials from other independent male companions who are promoting themselves solely. 

 Out of the thousands of websites claiming to be agencies I am sure there is probably at least one legitimate agency, and out of the thousands of male companions profile, there has to be at least 2 or 3 successful  ones.  Thousands of men if not more deny paying for the services of a female companion in fear of what people may think. I do however feel that some women (correct me if I am wrong) would feel the same as it is viewed as inappropriate behaviour (which I don't think it is).

 Cindy I am aware that there are's various ways a women can make herself feel appreciated, such as handbags, shoes and therapeutic goodies but isn't that more of an everyday or weekend hobby/therapy...??

Anyway the point I am trying to come across is that although its a niche market for women, I feel that there is a gap in the market for males to promote themselves independently but would probably be approached in a discreet
manner, and that like men no women would admit paying for the services of a male companion and therefore being branded as an unsuccessful and non lucrative market to venture in.

Lastly I would like to apologise if I have said anything to offend anyone, but do feel free to comment.

x
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: pandora on 01 July 2010, 11:20:57 am
I had the BEST one yesterday.

Apparently I had a runner/look-see a couple of years ago.  He has now emailed me to say how sorry he is and wants to apologise.  Now has his life sorted, and guess what, is now a male escort - LOL. Would like to meet up as "it has been a hard couple of years and needs a cuddle".

As I was bored I played along and asked him about his business and how he gets it.  Get ready to ROFL.

 "I don't have a website, I do it by word of mouth, as I started by talking to the concierges of the top West End hotels and it grew from there".

"They [concierges] just know to call me if  guest is interested in hiring a male escort for the evening".  Just imagine it, you ring from your room and say I would like some "ROOM SERVICE" nudge nudge, wink wink.

"I charge ?150 an hour and get about 4 jobs a week.  The average age of woman is 38-45"

Ladies I suggest we have all been missing a trick.  Far from worrying about access to hotels undetected, we should just walk up to the reception and ask the concierge if they have any lonely punters registered. Ha Ha Ha Ha ha.

He says he wants me to end sexy pics and to meet him on Friday but - its a bargain - he won't charge me. I can hardly wait.  Anyone want to see the message and his pic please PM - ha ha. Or maybe you want me to arrange room service.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 01 July 2010, 12:03:37 pm
Lastly I would like to apologise if I have said anything to offend anyone, but do feel free to comment.

Enrique, the members here do not need your permission to comment; you have invited them to do so by posting in the first place. But as you have completely ignored all of the valuable information in this thread (which answers every single one of your points many times over and in different ways), why should they waste their time when it has all been covered already?

Do you know how many times we've heard from men who are convinced that they're going to be the exception to the rule? Doesn't it tell you anything that there's five pages of thread about it? Please read the thread again properly - everything you have asked about is right there in front of you.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 01 July 2010, 12:18:11 pm
[...] and that like men no women would admit paying for the services of a male companion [...]

Er, men who use (male & female) escorts admit it all over the place - pop 'Punter' into Google. Some of my clients have told me that they are even semi-open with their close friends about it. Sex for money is being talked about constantly in the media and probably around dinner tables nationwide these days. You don't have zero clients because it's all too "hush hush", cos that is simply not the case. I've heard plenty of women ponder the idea of paying for sex but honestly, better can usually be found for free and you don't even have to look at any 'dramatic silhouette' dick pics.

You've come here to ask for our advice because you're probably sick of being told "Oh, I can make you a superrr succSEXful male excort, lulz, just put ?299 into my paypal account and i'll tell you how" and now want to hear from people who are not scammers. Now that people who are not scammers - just us honest working boys and girls - are not telling you what you want to hear either, you are possibly at a loss for where to turn next. I have no idea, but I'm afraid that if you keep asking here, we're just going to keep telling you that we think you're silly.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Enrique Suarez on 01 July 2010, 12:52:36 pm
Amy, firstly I wasn't giving permission, my statement was clearly a form of politeness   :) again apologies to anyone offended.

Secondly, I have read through the threads and I understand what most of them are saying (that women don't not pay for companionship) however everyone is entitled to their own opinion to judge the matter. At the end of the day there is no harm in being confident and trying it out isn't there??

Emily okay I might have gone over board with my assumptions and you are right better can be found for free but not everyone may share the same views as you and everyone else in this forum. And yes I was seeking advice and no I am not sick and tired of being told "Oh, I can make you a superrr succSEXful male excort, lulz, just put ?299 into my paypal account and i'll tell you how", I unlike most gullible individuals have more sense than that. And you are probably right I am silly in fact probably stupid if I carry on asking here.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: cindy on 01 July 2010, 04:26:35 pm
Well we have done all we can to try to make you see the light. Off you toddle on your "career."
Do let us know if you have earnt ?10 by this time next year. I for one would be gobsmacked!
Im not trying to be rude by the way, was simply trying to prevent you from making an arse of yourself.
I have "male escorts" book and pay me! Not to mention the constant queue of them wanting to "team up" to do double bookings. Are you with a straight face saying that ANY staight male escort if asked for a freebie would say no?!
I think you are having a laugh.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Amanda on 01 July 2010, 04:38:23 pm
Hey Guys,

 Thank you Cindy and Emily for your comments. Firstly I would like to point out that I do have a job and only considering escorting as an extra bit of pocket money on the side (compared to some of the other posts I have seen).

 After viewing the threads I do understand that there are a lot of of men which including myself assume that women would pay the services for a companion. But who can blame our simple-minded assumption when they are so called agencies around claiming to be a legitimate business stating the opposite, and viewing testimonials from other independent male companions who are promoting themselves solely.  

 Out of the thousands of websites claiming to be agencies I am sure there is probably at least one legitimate agency, and out of the thousands of male companions profile, there has to be at least 2 or 3 successful  ones.  Thousands of men if not more deny paying for the services of a female companion in fear of what people may think. I do however feel that some women (correct me if I am wrong) would feel the same as it is viewed as inappropriate behaviour (which I don't think it is).

 Cindy I am aware that there are's various ways a women can make herself feel appreciated, such as handbags, shoes and therapeutic goodies but isn't that more of an everyday or weekend hobby/therapy...??

Anyway the point I am trying to come across is that although its a niche market for women, I feel that there is a gap in the market for males to promote themselves independently but would probably be approached in a discreet
manner, and that like men no women would admit paying for the services of a male companion and therefore being branded as an unsuccessful and non lucrative market to venture in.

Lastly I would like to apologise if I have said anything to offend anyone, but do feel free to comment.

x


I get the feeling you want advice as long as it confirms your beliefs.

Enjoy fiddling with your website, I fully expect it to be the only fiddling you do in this venture. That's not rude or harsh, it's realistic.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Richard on 01 July 2010, 05:01:21 pm
I therefore have set up a web address advertising my services this afternoon. So far I only had one call which was just an inquiry (no booking).  I would appreciate some feedback on my website and the best way to promote my site...

Well, you are already doing better than most men who want to be a SME. That inquiry may be the high point of your career though.

OK, the main picture is the wrong aspect ratio unless you want to look squashed. I think one of the others is too. There are a couple of places where the layout of the text isn't quite right or there are grammar mistakes. TEXT ALL IN CAPITALS IS DIFFICULT TO READ. Picky, yes, but this is the toughest job application you will ever do. There are not many vacancies and tens of thousands of men wanting to do it.

You're being a bit picky about age, why?

"I don't have a website, I do it by word of mouth, as I started by talking to the concierges of the top West End hotels and it grew from there".ha.

They need to pay kickbacks, but I do know someone who this does work for, albeit not four times a week.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Enrique Suarez on 01 July 2010, 05:16:50 pm
Are you with a straight face saying that ANY staight male escort if asked for a freebie would say no?!
I think you are having a laugh.

I am not sure about that, haven't asked any yet, but will let you know once I do,
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[quote author=Enrique Suarez link=topic=2214.msg28016#msg28016 date=1277978712
I get the feeling you want advice as long as it confirms your beliefs.

Enjoy fiddling with your website, I fully expect it to be the only fiddling you do in this venture. That's not rude or harsh, it's realistic.

Ok :)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 01 July 2010, 05:17:33 pm
I therefore have set up a web address advertising my services this afternoon. So far I only had one call which was just an inquiry (no booking).  I would appreciate some feedback on my website and the best way to promote my site...

Well, you are already doing better than most men who want to be a SME. That inquiry may be the high point of your career though.

OK, the main picture is the wrong aspect ratio unless you want to look squashed. I think one of the others is too. There are a couple of places where the layout of the text isn't quite right or there are grammar mistakes. TEXT ALL IN CAPITALS IS DIFFICULT TO READ. Picky, yes, but this is the toughest job application you will ever do. There are not many vacancies and tens of thousands of men wanting to do it.

You're being a bit picky about age, why?

I'd be interested to know how the 'inquiry' found him at all, given that I have just typed 'Enrique Suarez Male Escort London' into Google and went through the first ten pages without his site coming up. Most people will get bored long before that.

Enrique, you have made it abundantly clear that you are only interested in the answers which tell you what you want to hear, but everything Richard says is spot on, and I would also add that the diagonal lines on the background are painful to look at after about 3 seconds. Plus virtually every single amateur-looking photograph seems to have you sitting in the pub - hardly creating a good impression (there is the one where you look like Jimmy Carr's Mexican cousin, mind).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Enrique Suarez on 01 July 2010, 05:27:37 pm
hahaha thanks amy, that is the sort of feedback i was looking for.

Cheers
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 01 July 2010, 06:12:45 pm
hahaha thanks amy, that is the sort of feedback i was looking for.

Cheers

Really? You needed someone to tell you to do SEO on your site? ???

Okay, now it's time for today's headdesk!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Enrique Suarez on 01 July 2010, 06:15:34 pm
hahaha thanks amy, that is the sort of feedback i was looking for.

Cheers

Really? You needed someone to tell you to do SEO on your site? ???

Okay, now it's time for today's headdesk!
haha knock yourself out  ;)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 01 July 2010, 06:53:50 pm
Come on, he started the site yesterday and you want him on the front page of Google already?

Mind you, if you need to know someone's name before finding them, you're not going to be found very often without a serious ad spend or marketing effort elsewhere (see one of the failed attempts to have an agency).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 01 July 2010, 07:01:45 pm
Mind you, if you need to know someone's name before finding them, you're not going to be found very often without a serious ad spend or marketing effort elsewhere (see one of the failed attempts to have an agency).

That was really what I meant - given that I typed in his full name, his advertised occupation and his location and there was no sign of him in ten pages of Google results (and I have a feeling I could have gone another ten without seeing it if I could be bothered), I doubt many are going to happen across the site by accident, although I'm sure stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: UrbaneAspects on 02 July 2010, 08:08:25 am
Some of the replies here have been a bit harsh. Give Enrique a break...

Women may not pay for sex, but I have witness many attractive, young women to give up their livelihoods for a man (which equates to a silly girl with low self-esteem). I have also seen women indirectly pay for sex: taking care of a man because "the dick is good"  :D

But what Enrique needs is a good, strong woman by his side. Not a punteress to shell out money.

Also...you guys can blame the hit HBO show HUNG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hung_(TV_series)) for the increase in straight male escorts. I never watched the show, but I seen previews where the man sits in a hotel bed, while having 9 or 10 women in and out dropping their panties and cash and then walking out.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 02 July 2010, 11:17:36 am
Some of the replies here have been a bit harsh. Give Enrique a break...

Women may not pay for sex, but I have witness many attractive, young women to give up their livelihoods for a man (which equates to a silly girl with low self-esteem). I have also seen women indirectly pay for sex: taking care of a man because "the dick is good"  :D

But what Enrique needs is a good, strong woman by his side. Not a punteress to shell out money.

Also...you guys can blame the hit HBO show HUNG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hung_(TV_series)) for the increase in straight male escorts. I never watched the show, but I seen previews where the man sits in a hotel bed, while having 9 or 10 women in and out dropping their panties and cash and then walking out.

Joey, if a people have been a bit harsh it's because Enrique asked for advice and then ignored the answers he got because they didn't fit the picture. He didn't want advice, he wanted to show off his website and have us all say how great it is and what a good idea, but while there's nothing wrong with that it was never going to happen.

Women indirectly paying for sex (as men do) is neither here nor there - this forum is here to discuss working in the sex industry where sex is paid for directly - if we're going to include women who 'pay' by virtue of earning more than their partners, we might as well be discussing marriage. As for Hung, I think it has been on over here, but someone on another thread mentioned that one of the British soaps was covering something similar and I think that's probably got far more to do with it than some American comedy.

The best thing Enrique can do is take on board the advice he has been given - he's not doing any harm with his site, but he shouldn't get his hopes up that he will get any bookings. We can't do any more for him than that.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Enrique Suarez on 02 July 2010, 12:31:44 pm
Some of the replies here have been a bit harsh. Give Enrique a break...

Hey Thanks Joey :) I didn't find what anyone said harsh at all. At the end of the day everyone is entitled to their own opinion .

The best thing Enrique can do is take on board the advice he has been given - he's not doing any harm with his site, but he shouldn't get his hopes up that he will get any bookings. We can't do any more for him than that.

Advice taken on board thanks... :) x



[Quoting edited for clarity]
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: welsh_ben on 09 July 2010, 10:08:30 pm
hey ive had alot of personal things go wrong lately and decided to get out of a rout by doing escorting and i rushed into things which is totally unlike me and signed upto elegance4her and paid the money thne done research that theyve scammed people in the past?

any help much appreciated .


also any links to good agencys for male escorts


regards

ben
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 09 July 2010, 10:19:54 pm
hey ive had alot of personal things go wrong lately and decided to get out of a rout by doing escorting and i rushed into things which is totally unlike me and signed upto elegance4her and paid the money thne done research that theyve scammed people in the past?

any help much appreciated .

Yes you've been scammed. There is nothing you can do except try and be more careful with whatever money you've got left. Not paying large sums of cash into a random-company-you-know-nothing-about's bank account is a good way to start hanging onto it.

also any links to good agencys for male escorts

There aren't any, sorry. If you don't believe me, read the rest of this thread or do a search for some of the other zillion posts on the subject. Even if you do believe me you are bound to think I'm wrong, so read the rest of this thread anyway.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: welsh_ben on 09 July 2010, 10:28:25 pm
thanks :( balls ill ring bank up and make up some sort of story cause i paid by credit card
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 09 July 2010, 10:34:06 pm
Then you might be one of the lucky ones - normally they ask for cash. Good luck getting it back and for God's sake don't believe any more shite anyone tells you about how straight men can earn money whoring (or better still, being a 'companion' ffs). They can't.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: welsh_ben on 09 July 2010, 10:41:51 pm
no worries its my own fault im a student and seeking money...it was just companion ship aswell. rang the bank they sai give them till wednesday to reply(the company) and if they dont the bank will investigate it and get my money back,good job i paid via credit card.

thanks for the true but harsh replies guess ill go to tesco and be a till whore instead lol

thanks ocne again
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 10 July 2010, 01:06:37 am
Ermm I thought you only get your money back if;

(a) you didn't authorise the payment or
(b) you didn't receive goods paid for(services generally aren't covered unless zero service is received)

I'm therefore interested in how /what grounds you are getting your money back?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: anjali on 10 July 2010, 09:36:11 am
More to it than that Strawberry under section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 you can claim for breach of contract or misrepresentation, which the latter  I would assume is the way he would go, as the company are unlikley to dispute the claim anyways, he can be fairly economical with the truth about what he had paid for, and still have a valid claim. Missled about an advertising deal would be a fair one.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 10 July 2010, 11:57:21 am
But doesn't he have to show how he was misled?Simply not getting any bookings isn't the agents fault(although obviously we know in this case they don't intend doing that anyway).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: anjali on 10 July 2010, 02:02:05 pm
I have made a claim in the past due to being shafted over some advertising  :( and with my CC company as it was all word of mouth and a handshake agreement, (long story) they were quite happy to accept my version of events.

Now he could say he paid to appear on thier site and recive  x number of bookings guaranteed per week, or maybe he can think of something else, at the end of the day, it will be down to the CC company to decide who is in the wrong, and the scam agency to prove his version of events is not correct.

I guess as every CC company is different, he may/may not have a case, but wont cost him anything to try.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Lucy Chambers on 10 July 2010, 05:53:56 pm
Not only that, but as he has been unable to contact them since, they could not have the defence of just not getting bookings for him, if it came to it they would have to prove they had at least attempted it, surely?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: bl5 on 21 July 2010, 09:55:58 pm
I'd like to start by saying hi and thanks to those who are taking the time to read my post.
 
Firstly id like to thank people for the posts about scam agencys and alike as was very close to being ripped of by a few one in particular that was very convinsing but slight mistakes in the telephgone conversation, and the fact they wanted ?199.00 for her admin to find me bookings led me to be suspicious and look further into the industry pro's, cons and getting started, leading me here.

Although I have been thinking of getting into the male escorting industry for some years have never actually seriously given it thought till now and was wondering if there is a need for straught male escorts, any advice to help me get started where to look agencys to contact that wont rip me off and how to get started without making a complete fool out of my self or selling my selfshort, as nearly all the advice and information is aimed mainly at women  :-\

I dont expect this to be easy and straight forward but would appreciate honest advice which i know i will get from reading your post and answers  :P

Many thanks x
 
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Cherrylips on 21 July 2010, 10:12:31 pm
Oh dear  :-X

This should help although you should really have just typed male escorting into the search bar.

http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2214.0
 
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: bl5 on 21 July 2010, 10:19:12 pm
Hey thanks i tried me and computers not good  ::)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: UrbaneAspects on 21 July 2010, 10:22:26 pm
Uh Oh...Amy's coming, hide!  :-X
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: bl5 on 21 July 2010, 10:25:41 pm
lol i just read hmmmm thanks................ ok job center it is  :-\ thanks for your help  ;) x
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Cherrylips on 21 July 2010, 10:43:10 pm
Uh Oh...Amy's coming, hide!  :-X

LOL!  I know you're just kidding anyway Joey but if I were in Amy's position as moderator regarding this male escort topic I would have resorted to using expletives a long time ago!  All things considered I think she has displayed the patience of a saint. 

No offence to you bl5.  ;)



Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 21 July 2010, 10:52:21 pm
Uh Oh...Amy's coming, hide!  :-X

LOL!  I know you're just kidding anyway Joey but if I were in Amy's position as moderator regarding this male escort topic I would have resorted to using expletives a long time ago!  All things considered I think she has displayed the patience of a saint. 

No offence to you bl5. 

I'm working away in Bristol, knackered and currently have all the patience of Gordon Ramsey on crack. Threads merged and that is my last word (at least until the next one pops up)  ;).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 21 July 2010, 11:20:08 pm
Uh Oh...Amy's coming, hide!  :-X

LOL!  I know you're just kidding anyway Joey but if I were in Amy's position as moderator regarding this male escort topic I would have resorted to using expletives a long time ago!  All things considered I think she has displayed the patience of a saint. 

No offence to you bl5.  ;)

The amazing thing is how many guys 'innocently' believe in this male escort stuff. You try and tell em but they don't get it. A few even still believe it AFTER being ripped off.




Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: UrbaneAspects on 23 July 2010, 08:54:26 am
The amazing thing is how many guys 'innocently' believe in this male escort stuff. You try and tell em but they don't get it. A few even still believe it AFTER being ripped off.

Although I escort to other guys...for some reason I still 'slightly' believe that male escorting is real. I mean, I'm sure there is some older lady out there paying men. I have ran into some older women to be 'aggressive' and chase men, so Im sure if things were set properly, she'd probably pay him. I mean, lets take the example of male music artist, sports stars, etc. Women basically throw their panties to these guys for free, and pay to see these men. Do you really think the girl would say no if the guy said, "baby, you have to pay for it".

Just saying, my opinion. (although I think the girl would be far too insulted to actually pay the guy, and would probably just keep it down as a fantasy). But hey, aren't there women who pay male strippers? I just dont think straight male escorting is as far off as some have made it out to be. Not saying Im considering to do that....as Im a woman virgin LOL, but it happens

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: R82 on 22 August 2010, 06:29:18 pm
Hi all,

My name is Sam and I am a 28 year old male living in London. Before anyone gets panicked, I am not here to plug my services for I am not even an escort. I am however infinitely interested in entering this particular line of work and despite the fantastic insights that I have encountered on this website about the escorting industry, I have noticed that there appears to be very little advice geared toward males.   

On that note I was hoping to be able to put out a question to all of you which was whether anybody knew of any good London based escort agencies that take on males? I have researched this but you just don't know who you can trust in the end and so I figured that seeking advice from seasoned veterans like yourselves would be the way to go.

Thank you all, hope everybody is having a lovely evening xx

S
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 22 August 2010, 06:39:27 pm
Hi Sam,

Firstly, if you were plugging your services your post would already have been deleted, but I can't imagine how you would have come to the conclusion that the people here were not getting much sex, tbh.

Indeed we do get asked this all the time, which is why I have moved your post in with the others on this (currently) seven page thread about it. Start at the beginning and have a good read through and it will give you all the information you need to know.

If you don't have the time, then in a nutshell, there is no advice on here for straight male escorts because there is no work for straight male escorts and certainly no legitimate agencies. If you are gay or bi, you can pretty much follow the general pointers on here; the constant factor here is that prostitutes' customers are invariably, overwhelmingly, 99%+ men and the information about tax, personal safety, services and so on is pretty much gender neutral.

If the latter is the case, please do post specific questions you have about getting started, but if it's the former then it's back to the drawing board, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Daveanthony on 23 August 2010, 07:10:14 pm
This thread has made my day, I have not laughed so much in a long time.

Some girls deserve a medal for still trying to help despite the complete lack of research put into these great new business ideas.....

Need a facepalm smiley added!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: serenity on 18 September 2010, 11:23:13 am
firstly hello peeps, im a 28 year old male who for some time has been thinking about a job for myself in this field, and seeking some very basic answers. so any help would be greatly appreciated.

firstly my motivation, i already have a well established professional carrier and tend to achieve most things i set my mind to, he money is an attraction but not the real goal here for me, in fact this may be the reason im so interested, i want to use the term secretive but not sure if thats the correct terminology and with out sounding big headed (which i am going to) i believe im attractive enough and intelligent enough to be successful as a male escort, if there is indeed a need for them, clearly i have no real idea of the how the machincs per say work but i believe this sight to be a great place to begin, i also feel i have no commitments which would hinder this life style choice.

so im not sure if its a good thing to be attracted to the unknown but hence why im here asking questions, clearly your site offers great information to women on how to start out, screening, advertisings the dos and donts, but here lies my question, is the escorting world purely geared to females? is there a market for straight males?

i have looked greatly into the pros and cons of such a choice and by no means feel it would be an easy thing to achieve, nor am im drunk on some deluded opinion that i will become james bond but so far all i here from males on here and postings from wider a field is that in trying to make head way in escorting for males, all seem to lead to getting ripped off by scam sights, or infact that male escorting doesn't exist? i have the knowledge to write my own web site and domain, but is this the best way forward for a male, independently i mean?

if anyone has any valid opinions please feel free to post, and im not really after "try this site it works" more if anyone knows of successful male escorts? are you one? are there any real male escort services worth there salt? is it a closed market where all females hold all the cards due to females not needing to pay for male company?

thanks for reading and also thanks for your time if you do reply.  
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Anika Mae on 18 September 2010, 11:32:44 am
Yes, there is a male escort scene. Gay men are almost as willing to pay for sex as straight men are.

Male escorting comes up all the bloody time here (mostly the straight variety, which there is very little demand for). Do a search and see if you find something interesting.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: pandora on 18 September 2010, 04:11:31 pm
Have a look at the male escort scam thread and amaze and enjoy.

Unless you go gay for pay, or are willing to do adult porn there is no demand.   Women can get sex for free at a drop of a hat.  Just check out AW male escorts.  None have any reviews except the ones that do porn, (or have sample ladies as a punter and had feedback).

Plus most of them are offering it for free anyway. I would not even pay for Johnny Depp (-unless he was dressed as Captn Jack and could guarantee multiple orgasms whilst I lay there awiting my pleasure - I might cough up a  tenner lol)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 18 September 2010, 05:25:47 pm
"Is There A Male Escort Seen?"

Yes, at the Job Centre :)

A quick look will demonstrate that there's only a tiny (female) demand for straight male escorts, but a huge supply of them = hardly any will get any work. Anyone who tells you otherwise is after your money.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Ms Rubens on 18 September 2010, 06:00:57 pm
Right now I feel almost giddy with righteousness that I was able to restrain my sarcasm usually reserved to this perennial kind of threads lol.  But here are some genuine comments.  For a start, now if I am about to research any new venture and stumble across a forum dedicated to this subject matter, I would spend quite a while searching for info.  I am often a bit baffled about how so many people sign up, spend no time in familiarising themselves and jump straight in on boards.   Personally, I prefer to carefully wipe my feet virtually and enter a little more cautiously.  Just a general thought on what would be nice forum etiquette.

The question of actual demand as an aside, every thread started by a new wannabe gigolo seems to echo a similar theme.  Some are more faux sincere and modest than others.  Basically, the male straight escort candidates describe that they are attractive and intelligent etc etc.  The onus is on them and their wonderful qualities etc.  However, they don?t really seem to consider what any paying female client might want.  Ok so looks and a minimum IQ might be deciding factors.  But surely if any woman was to truly consider paying for an escort despite being able to find willing free sex candidates, she might be interested in a guy that shows more awareness of her needs!  It strikes me odd that guys that appear to claim they have thought this through do not actually research their prospective clientele nor show any understanding of the female psyche.  Rightly or wrongly, I read the OP?s opening gambit and think here is someone with a sizable ego and would be put off.  I would perhaps consider paying a male escort if he had the aptitude to pamper me in a holistic way, i.e. not just catering for my sexual whims (plus it would be a bus women?s holiday!) but who would be massaging other parts that men don?t usual reach lol.  In reality, this means being given undivided attention, a clear sign that the escort puts his ego and dick back and focuses solely on me.  This might sound simple but many men, especially those who rate themselves attractive enough to escort really do not have that ability to put the woman first and put their own ego on a backburner!  The actually shagging in an appointment is the easy part for me.  But what really wears me out is actually being nice and pampering some of the huge egos.  It is exhausting especially on long bookings to focus on that person, however nice they are.  Few of the prospective straight male escorts appear to actually ask 'What do women want?'!

I also find that a lot of men are not really following this pipe dream through in terms of catering and servicing women of different ages and shapes etc.  I find that a lot of men are a lot squeamisher than women lol  Apart from little blue pills and their tell tale signs it is much harder to fake it!


PS  LOL at xw5.  A young male family friend went to see a career advisor at his college.  When asked what his ideal job entails, he mentioned very short hours, late start, loads of money and little actual work.  The advisor sighed and said that sadly he had no vacancies for Gigolos...
 
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 18 September 2010, 06:32:23 pm
I also find that a lot of men are not really following this pipe dream through in terms of catering and servicing women of different ages and shapes etc.  I find that a lot of men are a lot squeamisher than women lol  Apart from little blue pills and their tell tale signs it is much harder to fake it!

It seems true; judging by the quantities of silly emails going round AW from hopeful chancers (AKA male escorts), that only women the modern gigolos are interested in "servicing" are us super-hot, super-sexual escorts. ::) I don't think there are many male escorts targeting lonely, overweight 60-year-old+ women on dating sites - then again, they might actually get a real job by doing that! Heaven forbid - actually providing a warm, intimate and engaging service to someone you're not attracted to?! Who does that? ;)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 18 September 2010, 08:27:56 pm
Why do males still think this is viable.  Is it that there is a market for Straight Male Escorts?and we are just ignorant? Guys post about this every now and then on the local and national forums. I keep explaining it's the media that likes to play on the myth, keep it going but it's still around.

Any succesful male escorts out there please come forth.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: serenity on 20 September 2010, 10:23:05 pm
Peeps I just wanted to ask if the market was real.

My reasoning behind this post was not because I feel like im some sexual god on a mercy mission to satisfy the rich female population of the uk, whist massaging my massive ego, and i apologise if i came off like that, i re read what i written and i did sound ever so cliche, i just wanted to know if this job was viable as to be fair for a male it does sounds like a dam good way to make a living. 

i also would like to say that i would be the first to admit that this is about as far as my thought process went as beyond that i haven't really considered the implications of anything else, feelings, wants and needs all really took a back burner. As i now feel that all my opinions be them false or based on myth are purely that, based on myth, but this is why i wrote this tread here, as this site at face value seems to have some honest people with some good knowledge of this field and i hoped i would stumble across some golden answer,

im not sure who stated above nor am i here to be rude but they are correct in that normally searching for answers is the best way to answer questions and clearly the internet is a large source of information but it has no real evidence from real people about male escorting, or at least nothing i feel i can trust, the sites all seem geared to rob you and i imagine if there are any successful male escorts they are not going to be wanting to fill the market with more competition.

so i guess i just at some point in my life i assumed like some fairy tale that some where out there ladies with far to much time and money on there hands paid for sex and i think i have felt this way for some time, im not even sure why really, their where no grounds for this opinion, be it media based or too many sky t.v programs about cougars, i just got brain washed into thinking it, or i may go as far as saying i even wanted to believe that some lucky sod was living the life style i in the past had thought would be in a lose term "cool". I can now see that those thoughts where based around unfounded opinions made from poor guesses into what it actually would be like, but i dared to think it and i now feel satisfied that if there where or is such males out there that their wounds are probably far deeper than what i have considered to be in the realms of fun. 

so in conclusion this tread to me hasn't been completely fruitless, i can see now its a very valid point that the tide is against guys achieving anything as male escorts due to the nature of how sex works and how it sells, females clearly hold the cards in a power sense and if women do need sex when it comes down to it, its far more obtainable if they need it, any night club on a Saturday night springs to mind, in hindsight to this i also get the personal touch idea which males would need to provide  if they did have a market and did have client?le, clearly they would have to provide far more than just a sexual package with a happy ending, this i guess goes down to a sexual level of what women want and what males want on a sexual level, some lady of variable looks in a French maids out fit to a drunk male will prity much turn most guys on on a primeval level but this is where i think we differ as women are far deeper than that, its visual, sensual, verbal and mental for women, where guys tend to be all about getting there rocks off then switching off.

so for now thanks peeps, i feel my question was answered and i am sorry for jumping in slightly unprepared, you guys clearly have an etiquette and i respect that, stay safe now ;)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 20 September 2010, 10:38:05 pm
No probs. I can only suggest that next time you have a brainwave you actually do some research before jumping in with both feet and rubbing people up the wrong way. There are a multitude of threads all over this forum which would have answered your question concisely, thoroughly and many times over without any need for these bizarre, lengthy posts and as is only fitting, I have moved your thread in to join them.

You might also want to think about buying a keyboard with a Shift key that works, especially if you are looking for a new line of work. Just a suggestion.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 21 September 2010, 09:02:25 am
Does the prevalence of such questions indicate that [some(quite a few actually)], males really do not have a clue regards women and their needs/wants?

Very scary really the amount out there who think this fairy tale could be real.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: alexcarter on 22 September 2010, 01:41:39 am
I cant believe that after all these months and all them replica posts from potential male escorts you's and you know which one of you's i mean are still kicking them to the floor with the same degree of enthusiasm that you had months ago, you post the same replys 2 or 3 times a page just worded a different way, and their not short posts. Your posts are designed to look like throwaway comments that completely disregard male escorts but in actual fact they have been carefully planned that consist of 100-500 words.
Why cant you just say
" Welcome feel free to join in on the forum or read posts etc but we dont kow anything about male escorts as were female and as far as we aware their is no market whatsoever for them, so dont bothr asking"

If you go back to pages 2 and 3 you'll see i agree but i dont see why you have to be so vicious.
And about my previous posts i was shot down in a ferocious manner for saying NO WOMAN will pay for sex, yet countless times in recent posts potential male escorts have been advised they would earn more on jobseekers allowance, wel they would only need 1-2 clients a month for an hour a time to top the amount you get on that so again you post so many times you contradict yourself. As richard did when he said in defence of my comment about STRAIGHT MALE ESCORTING being completely a no go as women dont pay for sex when he said "you can go to any gay bar and get your cock sucked" Gay-Straight-Gay-Straight??

Oh and before anyone quotes, quotes and re-quotes i am aware of the grammatical errors, i never bothered with education i was to busy having fun, Thankfully as i've never needed it since- Much the same as 99% of the members on here dont need it but got it anyway-what a waste of time eh?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 22 September 2010, 02:16:01 am
The reason we keep having to post the same old answers over and over again is because we keep getting the same old questions over and over again and the answers are no different now to what they have ever been. It is not the fault of anyone here that these people cannot be bothered to search through the forum and read the existing threads for themselves, and the sheer length of this one alone (not to mention the many others before it) ought to really be ample explanation for this.

Why, when this is a peer support forum for sex workers, would we invite people who are not sex workers, and have no industry knowledge or experience to join in and post? It would serve no useful purpose whatsoever and not unlike someone not a million miles away there is no useful contribution they can make - there are plenty of punting boards where outsiders who want to ask questions about the industry are welcome to do so; this is not one of them. Once again, if you are having difficulty understanding this, read the Forum Guidelines in Anika's Sticky thread at the top of the board.

If, however, this is just your usual bi-monthly release into the fresh air to take a few tediously predictable potshots at me personally, then this is your last warning to reel your neck in. If you can't stay on topic or be bothered to read through the thread properly (and you are conveniently ignoring the many contributions of members other than myself on the subject since the series of posts you are whining about over three months ago) then either don't post or kindly confine your ridiculous outbursts to PM. And if anybody wants your life story, I'm sure they'll ask.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Anika Mae on 22 September 2010, 08:43:10 am
And about my previous posts i was shot down in a ferocious manner for saying NO WOMAN will pay for sex, yet countless times in recent posts potential male escorts have been advised they would earn more on jobseekers allowance, wel they would only need 1-2 clients a month for an hour a time to top the amount you get on that so again you post so many times you contradict yourself.

Just to clarify: I was one of the people who disputed the assertion that no woman would ever pay for sex. I was certainly not suggesting that the average wannabe straight male escort could expect to earn in the region of ?100 a month if he tried. There's a big gap between "does occasionally happen" and "enough of a market to provide thousands of men with any income at all".
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 22 September 2010, 09:40:36 am
Like this or not, to me and I know of someone else and there maybe others, your posts often come over as anti  male
Well anti anything that does not match up to your own high opinion of yourself

I know you haven't been around that long, Rachel, but I for one can vouch that Amy has - at least once - corrected me for writing a miserly old post about Blokez And How Rubbish They Are, because she knows that's a ridiculously narrow-minded thing to say and that there's no need for it round here. She certainly doesn't feel that way herself just because she's not currently writing an Ode To Penises. :)

Amy doesn't have an especially high opinion of herself, only high expectations for this forum and those are entirely deserved. And she has responded to approximately 1,000,000 posts that are shockingly identical in their content ("Hi, I am Mr Man, and I am going to become a male escort, because I am charming and kind, and why do I keep getting scammed? Please help me because I can't be bothered to search the forum myself.") without having a full-scale meltdown like I would've by now.

I do agree that a potted response could be good. Or maybe an article in the Article Suggesty Bit of the forum that could be linked to in response to these ridiculously repetitive questions, saving anyone from having to get grumpy about anything. We could include all the positives and negatives - sure, you might get one or two jobs, if you're very lucky, but you'll need to do xyz marketing and advertising and site-building etc, so please don't quit your day job meanwhile, and so on, in a concise manner so nobody has any excuse for not reading it.

Also, I think for those of us who like our men smart and capable, seeing a guy unable to compose a post containing sexily correct grammar and sultrily perfect spelling, yet intimating that the poster feels himself magnetic enough to the ladies to earn money for hetero sex, is especially grating on the ol' sensibilities. It just makes no sense.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Dani on 22 September 2010, 10:09:55 am
I have only been on here for a year now and only post when it is something that either interests me or I have some input to give but one thing I have noticed is that Amy is honest and non judgemental.
If a man is coming on here saying he is educated, sexy and has a lot to offer women then he should at least be able to write his posts in the correct way. I admit I had a chuckle at his expense as his grammar and spelling is appalling for an educated man. The first thing I though upon reading his post is, 'OMG another one who cant bloody spell or use capital letters'.

If I was Amy I would probably give them much shorter shrift myself as it would drive me nuts having to repeatedly give the same answers and having to read through posts that just blather on and on.
To say she is having a dig is just silly. She was being honest.
This is a forum for sex workers and those with a genuine interest in becoming a sex worker and even I become irritated with the constant 'I am a man and want to charge women for sex' posts, as they are just so repetative and all they really have to do is take 5mins to look around and all their questions would be answered.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 22 September 2010, 10:45:09 am
First and foremost it is worth pointing out to all that Rachel's problem with me stems from an issue completely unrelated to either the forum in general or this thread in particular, but I have no intention of airing the matter here. The 'friend' she refers to I can only assume is still sulking after I edited a grossly offensive post she made over six weeks ago on a thread which has long since faded away, and having spent time patiently explaining why in three separate PMs I can only assume that I am irrevocably stuck in the Nasty Witch Lady corner. I do believe I can live with it.

I'm actually more surprised that no-one has yet objected to the claim that 99% of members here are uneducated - I left school at 16 with four GCSEs but have always had the impression I was very much in the minority. 'Alexcarter', Gawd love him, is a troll, and whilst every forum needs one, they do need to be kept in check. And for the record, as Danielle says, anyone posting extravagant claims about their intelligence and maturity when they can barely string a coherent sentence together, let alone punctuate it, has put themselves firmly in the firing line.

Now, this thread is for discussion of straight male escorting and related scams, not whether Amy eats babies and sleeps hanging upside down. I suggest we leave it be until the next hapless soul wanders along. If this means it has to be temporarily locked, then so be it.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Anika Mae on 22 September 2010, 11:16:55 am
Ok, really, stop it. We've got too much meta-forum stuff going on at the moment. If you have an issue with how the forum is run you can PM me.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 22 September 2010, 01:23:57 pm
Ok, really, stop it. We've got too much meta-forum stuff going on at the moment. If you have an issue with how the forum is run you can PM me.

As Anika said, there's a lot of mentions to things going on outside of SAAFE here, which is making the debate a bit confusing for all because I'm not sure any of us know fully what anyone else is talking about.

I am going to lock this thread *for now* but of course nothing will be deleted, it's only because I think everyone has had their say (literally! Everyone has made a post as far as I can tell) and we've had a relatively, er, calm debate and I don't see it going any further - if someone has a serious point to make that they want added to this thread, please do PM either each other or any mod.

I'm sorry that anyone who is a newbie has felt scared to join in; that goes against SAAFE's most fundamental principles! However, although this is a place for general chat, it is not primarily a social board - if you feel anything other than a pleasant urge to respond to a question topic with a helpful answer, this probably isn't the place for sharing it. Of course the board is also for making industry friends and being supported - but the best way to do that may be through PMs, emails and suchlike because wherever you can make friends, you can probably also find people that you absolutely do not want to be chums with, and so you don't necessarily want to be chatting with all members all the time.

Basically, SAAFE is not for discussion of people you don't like. SAAFE is for discussion of topics relating to sex work and it's related bits and bobs. If you're super-super-cross about something, be it drama queens, curt/"bitchy" responses, questions about illegal services, scammers, naivety, stupidity, or anything else at all, please take it to PMs. All of us mods just want everyone to be happy here, honest. :)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Chaddy-d-daddy on 19 December 2010, 02:40:15 pm
Hi all, yep, I am a newbie and was nearly scammed and I apologise if this topic has been posted before...I'm so glad I found this site before I paid my money!!

Anyway, now I am here, iv just got in contact with (elite services 4u) could anyone please tell me of a legitimate agency in Birmingham or London for males tried google, but still not convinced, but willing to travel if necessary.

Thanks all.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Chaddy-d-daddy on 19 December 2010, 03:00:26 pm
Hey all..
Does anyone know anyone legitimate male agency in London or Birmingham?
This properly sounds like a broken record.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 19 December 2010, 03:15:40 pm
CDD, I have moved your posts into this thread, since it is going to be the most useful one on the forum for you to read. In a nutshell, there are no straight male agencies because the amount of work available for men wanting to escort women is so minimal the market is to all intents and purposes non-existent, and anybody telling you otherwise is talking out of their arse.

Please read the rest of this thread to find out why. You can start anywhere really, since both the questions and the advice are always the same but it will at least give you something to do while you think of a Plan B.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: pandora on 19 December 2010, 08:26:29 pm
For a laugh, (although it is supposed to be a serious forum), try www.maleescort.com
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: River on 19 December 2010, 08:42:19 pm
For a laugh, (although it is supposed to be a serious forum), try www.maleescort.com
It was a laugh when i looked at it a few weeks ago.

A  bigger laugh is:
This domain has recently been listed in the marketplace at domainnamesales.com. Click here to inquire or call 1-800-385-8489.
I guess their business model didn't work out then! 
{Ian XW5 was right after all  :)}
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Sam on 17 January 2011, 07:58:26 pm
Okay, so this is totally the wrong place to be posting this, so please be gentle towards me!!

I'm a handsome guy who has had enough of relationships for the moment and wasting my charm.
 
I'm having my time out now and i want to spend that being a very professional male escort.
I'm one of the most genuine guys you'll meet and a great companion.

Any advice from all you ladies on how to get started would be very much appreciated

regards
Sam
x
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 17 January 2011, 08:19:37 pm
If you are straight and looking to escort women, you are wasting your time - the market is so small as to be non-existent, no matter what the scammers may have told you. There is more information here: http://www.sw5.info/straightmen.htm (http://www.sw5.info/straightmen.htm). Women don't pay men to spend time with them whether it's for sex or not; think about it logically - why on earth would we, when we can get a shag for little more than the cost of a good bra and ten minutes spent laughing at your jokes? Honestly, it's a no-brainer, if you need further evidence there is a gigantic thread on here all about it called 'Straight Male Escorts - the Scammers Favourite Myth' - use the Search box (or if anybody who isn't on a BlackBerry would be good enough to post the link).

If you are gay or bi then I'm no expert, but I think gay male escorts tend to work more often as independents rather than for agencies - I'm sure someone who knows more about it than me will be along at some point! The advice on the main SAAFE site is pretty much gender-neutral too.


EDIT: Found a way http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2214.0 (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2214.0). You don't have to read all of it or even any particular page, since it's all the same.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 17 January 2011, 08:28:20 pm
Okay, so this is totally the wrong place to be posting this, so please be gentle towards me!!

I'm a handsome guy who has had enough of relationships for the moment and wasting my charm.
 
I'm having my time out now and i want to spend that being a very professional male escort.
I'm one of the most genuine guys you'll meet and a great companion.

Any advice from all you ladies on how to get started would be very much appreciated

regards
Sam
x

Sam

I usually try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but your post just looks like a joke. Sorry however I do know that there are numerous guys out there who still believe the myth about straight male escorts.

Please be assured there really isn't the market out there. If you are happy to perhaps have 2 or 3 bookings per year you might want to go to the expense and time of creating profiles, perhaps update us on how you get along?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 17 January 2011, 08:32:38 pm
I was trying to be nice, but yes, I find it very hard to believe that any self-respecting gay man could have written such an incredibly cheesy post. Plus my post was a cut and paste of one I've used oh, several times before (just in case anybody had noticed), so I didn't see the harm of leaving that bit :).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Markyboi on 22 January 2011, 11:20:44 pm
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) :-[ :-[ :-X :-\ :-\ :'( :'(

So all this daydreaming about making some easy but much-needed money was a waste of time?? I've learned tonight on this site that it's only available for gay guys and obviously girls.  Women don't need to pay for a date or a fuck do they no matter how rich they are or how sexy I am.   

Do u mind clearing these up?

NO legit agencies?

...or at least and cheap ones, with actual prospects and not just invented ones?

does male escorting still exist? is there money in ie/enough work that pays well?

Feeling depressed already :(

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 22 January 2011, 11:37:08 pm
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) :-[ :-[ :-X :-\ :-\ :'( :'(

So all this daydreaming about making some easy but much-needed money was a waste of time?? I've learned tonight on this site that it's only available for gay guys and obviously girls.  Women don't need to pay for a date or a fuck do they no matter how rich they are or how sexy I am.

Leaving aside that your idea of what constitutes 'sexy' is almost certainly entirely different to that of most adult women (even if it might get you a free shag reasonably easily) your conclusions are entirely correct. The chances of any woman paying you to have sex with her is infinitessimal.

Do u mind clearing these up?

NO legit agencies?

None whatsoever.

...or at least and cheap ones, with actual prospects and not just invented ones?

See above. And 'cheap' or 'not cheap' is irrelevent - anywhere which expects you to hand over money before you have done and been paid for any work is a scam. The ones that want smaller amounts more regularly just tend to get away with it for longer.

does male escorting still exist? is there money in ie/enough work that pays well?

Yes and no. Male escorting is alive and kicking if you are gay or bi (provided you realise that your clients will almost exclusively be men - you might get one woman a year if you're lucky but you'll have to drop the text speak - I cringed as soon as I saw your post and most intelligent women would do likewise). There is no 'still'; straight male escorting has never existed in any significant way and it is singularly unlikely it ever will.

Please read the rest of this thread (it's all the same thing over and over again, so it doesn't really matter where you start and finish) and don't give anybody any money. In a nutshell, yes you can make money as a sex worker, but your clients will be men. So it really depends on how much you want to make money.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Friday on 23 January 2011, 11:06:23 am
So all this daydreaming about making some easy but much-needed money was a waste of time??

Well there's your problem right there.

There is 1 or 2 male escorts on AW who actuall appear to get work and thats out of the thousands of guys who set up profiles stick a picture of there hairy penis on and sit back and wait for the flood of ladies that will never come.

Im afraid escorting is not easy, it is a job and requires hard work.

Alot of men will be disappointed even if they ever did get booking! Especially when all I would want is a massage and someone to make me a cup of tea! lol  ;D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: NubianTemptress on 23 January 2011, 12:16:10 pm
Then on the other end of the scale if you had a woman like me book you LOL.. you'd f**k for those bucks.  Believe me, as I know I can get it for free you'd be well and truly put through your paces.. haha.

On AW escort-007 is the only straight male I've seen on the site with consistent escort bookings from women.  The others have a mixture of feedback, mainly booking women with a tiny amount booking them.

You're probably better off doing webcam.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 23 January 2011, 12:17:24 pm
If you would like to go away, spend time promoting yourself on AW as well setting up an independent site that hits the front page of google. Then come back to us with the results and we'd be more than happy to hear from you. So far no-one has come back proving us wrong.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 23 January 2011, 12:58:16 pm
I've just come across a site that doesn't appear to be making a huge upfront killing for straight males, they do however charge a monthly fee. They do have numerous males advertising on there so I guess are making a lot of money as an advertising site - trading on the hope they will get a booking eventually. I suppose that's fair enough.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 23 January 2011, 06:36:23 pm
Non-scam ad sites certainly exist. But I strongly suspect none of them are going to be worth it for any man who won't have male clients.

If you are, there's one obvious one (even if they're just as bad as AW in terms of only being interested in the money) and several not so obvious ones. I see one of the longest lasting of the latter has clearly been naughty with its SEO again - I can only find it on Google if I use its name.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 23 January 2011, 08:50:24 pm
With the amount of guys asking this question, as well as the amount on AW I think I could make a few ???s from setting up my own advertising site for this sort of thing. I mean how difficult can it be?I'm sure a lot of men would pay ?10 or ?20 regularly on the hope of just one booking. One guy from AW contacted me saying he'd not had a single booking in all his time on AW. When I looked he'd advertised for twice as long as I have and had only had 10% of the views. He was quite 'fit' in the mainstream sense, youngish, defined body yet in over 5 years hadn't had a single booking. He was asking if there was something wrong with his advert, could he improve his photos in any way?

His profile was absolutely fine, photos showed me what I'd want to see if I was looking for a man. With thousands of males trying to do this on AW, the  number of enquiries we have here and the number of guys who've asked me either by email, phone or in person(one or two clients) I think I could make a tidy profit here!

Only joking, but it's true.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Richard on 23 January 2011, 09:51:19 pm
I think I could make a few ???s from setting up my own advertising site for this sort of thing. I mean how difficult can it be?

That thought had crossed my mind too, but I decided it wasn't worth it.

In order to get an ad site noticed by the wannabes, you'd need to do a lot of work and the scams can always outspend you because they have the steady stream of suckers victims begging to give them their money.

Doing it half way ethically, by being upfront about the way they will probably never get work this way, wouldn't help either.

Plus why compete with AW? It's findable, free, and f***ing pointless to use if you want to do straight male escorting, but it's there and means they have to deal with the wannabes.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Richard on 23 January 2011, 09:56:33 pm
On AW escort-007 is the only straight male I've seen on the site with consistent escort bookings from women. 

If he's really straight, in behaviour as well as identity, I'll pay for someone to sample him. I'm almost tempted to bet I could find him on Gaydar.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: NubianTemptress on 23 January 2011, 10:48:58 pm
Well he says he's straight, I'm willing to bet the grand sum of 50p  ;D payment by paypal  ;)

He does camming too, from what I've seen 99% of the cam viewers are guys.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Richard on 23 January 2011, 11:07:38 pm
If I had 50p for every male client who said he was straight, I'd... hang on, I got more than that from them :)

Well quite.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 24 January 2011, 01:56:48 pm
On AW escort-007 is the only straight male I've seen on the site with consistent escort bookings from women. 

If he's really straight, in behaviour as well as identity, I'll pay for someone to sample him. I'm almost tempted to bet I could find him on Gaydar.


Well of his twelve escort feedbacks, one is from a man and three are from couples (one called 'bi couple' something), five are all from the same 'lady' who has sixty nine feedbacks including five escort ones ALL from our friend and the rest mostly in webcam, many left by people who clearly believed they were dealing with a man. Hmm.

Of the remaining three, two are from other providers and there is one, just one which looks like it could have been from a bona fide female non-prossie punter. Therefore, the mark of success in terms of civvy women making bookings would appear to be one every eighteen months or so.

To be fair, he isn't claiming to be straight (and I can't see the zillion cock pics on his profile appealing to many women - I've just had to close it because it was making me queasy) but if this is the benchmark for success, it's no wonder this thread is getting so long.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: NubianTemptress on 24 January 2011, 02:00:16 pm
LOL.. Amy you truly would give Jessica Fletcher a run for her money! Forget Murder She Wrote, how about Escort she wrote?  :P

I didn't investigate that far, just skimmed through his feedback.

Ah well, so much for the straight and narrow with the "ambitious male escort wannabes"  ::)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: askim on 11 February 2011, 08:43:50 am
Who know's any good male escort site's in london. male escort for lady's only. Let me know if any1 know's any free to join escort site's for male to escort female.


Thanks
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 11 February 2011, 09:10:27 am
Nobody does because there aren't any. Please read the rest of this thread.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Alba on 11 February 2011, 11:00:26 am
Who know's any good male escort site's in london. male escort for lady's only. Let me know if any1 know's any free to join escort site's for male to escort female.


I came across these two, http://www.male-escorts.net/  - one of  http://www.northern-angels.co.uk/ 's sites. Another one http://vboys.co.uk/, also from Northern  Angels ads. I don't know how good they are, I suppose you can check with NA.
Hope this helps.



[Edited to fix quotes]

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 11 February 2011, 11:58:04 am
Northern Angels is a pay advertising site based in the North of England, although I think they do have a Southern version. Looking at those sites (and the first one is another advertising directory rather than an agency) and the pictures/layouts, I don't think it's hard to spot their target clientele and major source of income. And it ain't the ladies  :).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 11 February 2011, 12:09:54 pm
Amy

If blokes want to pay ?20 a month, or whatever it is(I think NA might be more like ?100) on the hope of a booking they might be happy with that? It's pretty comparable to dating sites after all. :-*
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 11 February 2011, 12:11:56 pm
Amy

If blokes want to pay ?20 a month, or whatever it is(I think NA might be more like ?100) on the hope of a booking they might be happy with that? It's pretty comparable to dating sites after all. :-*

Nothing at all. But it's not an agency, and it's certainly not free. I wish they'd give it to me - I can stick 'em some pictures on the internet and get them no work for ?100 a month. In fact I'd do it for half that  ;D.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 11 February 2011, 12:19:37 pm
This is what I've been thinking too.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Alba on 11 February 2011, 01:42:31 pm
In my opinion, male escorts should be given free entries by directories, considering the amount of (no work) they can get. Yet I wouldn't be surprised if they are charged in the region of ?100 pm. :o
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Nanako on 12 February 2011, 01:25:21 am
This thread is funny :D

Want free and easy money? suck cock, yepyep! ^_^

Amy, it seems like responding to all these silly people is frustrating you.

Maybe it'd be fun to get a button on your admin interface that deletes the user's account, and redirects them to a generic "THERE ARE NO STRAIGHT MALE ESCORTS YOU ARE STUPID" page next time they try to login

Or at least a copy/paste response, you know? surely you have better things to be doing than writing a personalised rephrasing of the same key facts for every one (yes I've read the whole thread)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 12 February 2011, 07:14:33 am
Maybe it'd be fun to get a button on your admin interface that deletes the user's account, and redirects them to a generic "THERE ARE NO STRAIGHT MALE ESCORTS YOU ARE STUPID" page next time they try to login

Or at least a copy/paste response, you know? surely you have better things to be doing than writing a personalised rephrasing of the same key facts for every one (yes I've read the whole thread)

I believe Amy already does have a cut-n-paste response, but it's quite a subtle one cos I didn't notice for a while. ;)

We do need a standard article to link to, which comprehensively answers the Straight Male Escorts FAQs For Real, but that would require a bit of work and would be completely ignored by the kinds of guys in this thread who think it's appropriate to request a personalised explanation from us anyway.

It's a lose/lose situation. And SAAFE isn't about being cold and abusive; Amy frequently writes fresh replies to the same old questions because, despite what some might say, we don't actually hang out here to make new members cry! We want to write out the same old things if that's what it takes to help one new person. Aww, that sounds rather saintly. We're obviously not saints and I certainly frequently fail at Not Being Rude And Ignorant, but we do our best! :D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 12 February 2011, 02:29:23 pm
My cut-and-paste answer is the one I use for men who ahven't made it clear whether they're prepared to see other men or not - I used it earlier in the week, I think  :).

Whilst it might seem like 'fun' to call people stupid and delete their accounts for doing nothing more wrong than being too lazy to search the forums properly and asking questions that have been asked a zillion times before, that isn't really what we do here. Some of the posters on this thread; vain, gullible, deluded and inarticulate though they may be, have lost hundreds of pounds to people who have been trained to convince the that there is indeed a huge market for straight male escorts, and that 'high-flying businesswomen' are paying total strangers to go out for dinner/have sex with them all the time - it probably doesn't help when they come here and see that there are indeed lots of people earning a good living being paid for sex, and can't understand why it doesn't work in reverse. I can only imagine how convinving these scammers must be, otherwise nobody would be daft enough fall for it, even though it seems ridiculous to us.

I do believe that everyone who takes the time to join and post at least deserves the courtesy of an answer, and the one they get depends entirely on how they word their question. As for finding it frustrating, nothing could be further from the truth - I can answer this one in my sleep and it's almost meditative  ;D. Having 'better things to do' doesn't come into it; I'm no more obliged to post on here than anybody else and if I didn't have time or didn't want to then I wouldn't. Unfortunately, these posts are never likely to end - we already direct many to the Scam Agencies article on the main site, but every time anybody here tries to explain why straight men don't get work they don't listen anyway. It's a vicious circle, right enough.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: pattie66 on 12 February 2011, 02:57:28 pm
I do have a good friend who a straight "sensual male masseur" for women only. He actually does  (sort of) decent. He's a very good looking guy and  has 6 to 10 women a month (mostly unhappily married or wealthy lonely business women who reccomend him "mouth to mouth" to other female friends). He also has a female partner and does "couples" massage. He's not doing bad at all! but nothing compared to a female erotic masseuse (and he charges much less!). Thou he doesn't do any escort work or goes on dinner dates with anyone. He's just a great certified masseur with a few  diplomas.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Nanako on 13 February 2011, 07:36:33 am
Whilst it might seem like 'fun' to call people stupid and delete their accounts for doing nothing more wrong than being too lazy to search the forums properly and asking questions that have been asked a zillion times before,

With regards to the deleting accounts part, I was thinking more of the fact that site policy, based on reading various threads with moderator posts in them,  seems to be that SAAFE is a forum for those in the sex industry, and those who don't fit are frequently and curtly told to leave, or at least hinted that there's no reason for them to be here. A wannabe straight male escort who will never have any clients doesn't really fit the bill for belonging here, so do they need an account?

The page they'd get redirected to is the reply they'd recieve. It should be clear, concise, well written, and state all the facts, to the point where there's no real need for these guys to continue posting. if they're silly enough to not want to read the page and keep asking questions anyway, do you really want them here?

Calling them stupid is probably overkill, ok. But the virtue of redirecting to a page, or using a canned response, is that something prewritten can be as polite as you like.


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As for finding it frustrating, nothing could be further from the truth - I can answer this one in my sleep and it's almost meditative  ;D. Having 'better things to do' doesn't come into it; I'm no more obliged to post on here than anybody else and if I didn't have time or didn't want to then I wouldn't. Unfortunately, these posts are never likely to end - we already direct many to the Scam Agencies article on the main site, but every time anybody here tries to explain why straight men don't get work they don't listen anyway. It's a vicious circle, right enough.

It's your call. I think anyone doing the same thing over and over, especially when they get no thanks or results from it, is eventually going to get burnt out. And that's never fun.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 13 February 2011, 07:51:08 pm

It's your call. I think anyone doing the same thing over and over, especially when they get no thanks or results from it, is eventually going to get burnt out. And that's never fun.

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It's also the definition of insanity.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: bbwsexretary on 13 February 2011, 09:46:06 pm
I've had clients ask me about this. Argh. Next time I'll direct them here. Also thanks to Nanako I think I've found my motto.
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Want free and easy money? suck cock, yepyep! ^_^
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 14 February 2011, 02:06:41 am
With regards to the deleting accounts part, I was thinking more of the fact that site policy, based on reading various threads with moderator posts in them,  seems to be that SAAFE is a forum for those in the sex industry, and those who don't fit are frequently and curtly told to leave, or at least hinted that there's no reason for them to be here. A wannabe straight male escort who will never have any clients doesn't really fit the bill for belonging here, so do they need an account?

The page they'd get redirected to is the reply they'd recieve. It should be clear, concise, well written, and state all the facts, to the point where there's no real need for these guys to continue posting. if they're silly enough to not want to read the page and keep asking questions anyway, do you really want them here?

Calling them stupid is probably overkill, ok. But the virtue of redirecting to a page, or using a canned response, is that something prewritten can be as polite as you like.

It's your call. I think anyone doing the same thing over and over, especially when they get no thanks or results from it, is eventually going to get burnt out. And that's never fun.


Well I would first remind you that the forum guidelines (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=726.msg23216#msg23216) (which could also be described as 'site policy') request that anyone who see fit to make suggestions on how the boards are run and moderated does so in private and by way of the administration/moderation team, not by posting suggestions on the public board. I would also remind you that many, many people of all genders join the site thinking that they want to be an escort, and disappear just as quickly once they have been directed to the main site and find out how much work they'll actually have to do.

SAAFE exists to help answer these questions, and whilst it is extremely rare for any straight man to get work from female clients, it is not completely unknown and anybody is welcome to join the forum and ask about it. We do need an article to link to, but until somebody who actually knows what they're talking about and can therefore write with some knowledge and credibility (and that does not include me, since I am female)  takes it on, we're stuck with this thread (and you should have seen what it was like before this...)

Repetative questions are par for the course on any message board, especially one with a constant stream of newbies; how many times roughly have we had 'I want to be an escort but don't know where to start?' (answer: post link to main site, tell poster to read and return to forum with specific questions), and 'Can anyone recommmend an agency in London/Birmingham/Manchester etc etc?' (answer: post link to Emily's Choosing Agency article, remind poster that we don't recommend on main site because we don't offer free advertising for pimps but they might get a few PMs) and 'How do I do I do X, X and X on Adultwork, because I can't be arsed to look through the Help section where all of these questions are answered?' (answer: usually extremely simple, if they'd looked through the Help section). This thread is by no means the only one. Throw in Outraged Prossie of Anytown complaining about bareback, hagglers, no shows and people who phone and ask all the questions that are answered on website/profile and so on, and there really isn't that much new stuff by any stretch of the imagination.

What I will say, Nanako is that it is not your place to speculate on my or any other stranger's mental health and I will thank you not to do so again; I have been working as a prostitute on and off for eight years and as a result I run a busy and successful business alongside other industry roles as well as having an active 'other' life. Whilst moderating on SAAFE is an important part of it all, it is a very small part and the occasional post on a single repetitive message board thread is not going to induce any sort of burnout in me, I can assure you; as you have been asked before, please refrain from making any more personal remarks about other posters. I do not need to be reminded that anything is 'my call', believe me.

This has gone far enough off topic now, so we will just let it die until the next wannabe comes along. If anybody has any more ideas about how the forum should be run, please either start a thread in Off Topic, or address them to the admins in the appropriate way.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Richard on 14 February 2011, 01:03:00 pm
SAAFE exists to help answer these questions, and whilst it is extremely rare for any straight man to get work from female clients, it is not completely unknown and anybody is welcome to join the forum and ask about it. We do need an article to link to, but until somebody who actually knows what they're talking about and can therefore write with some knowledge and credibility (and that does not include me, since I am female)  takes it on, we're stuck with this thread (and you should have seen what it was like before this...)

Not straight, but I did promise an article ages ago. Sorry.

The delay is partly because while I did have female clients, it was through some major thought about how to do it, and I don't want to give that away. The markets are small!

Clue for the hopeful/less: it wasn't by sticking a picture of my knob on Adultwork.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: New at it on 17 February 2011, 08:37:15 pm
Hiya,

I am new to the industry and wanted to know if there is much work about for a male escort / companion?

and where would I start looking for work.

Thanks
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 17 February 2011, 08:43:39 pm
The short answer is yes, provided you are prepared to see men. If you are not then the answer is basically no, or so little that it's not worth worrying about. If this is the case and you want some insight and information as to why, read this (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2214.0) (predictably lengthy) thread.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 17 February 2011, 08:44:14 pm
Straight? If so, I'll merge this to http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2214.0 (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2214.0), but..

Short answer: no.

Longer answer: http://sw5.info/straightmen (http://sw5.info/straightmen)

Willing to be sexual with other men? If so, you need to look where the gay men are.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 17 February 2011, 08:49:42 pm
Straight? If so, I'll merge this to http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2214.0 (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2214.0), but..

Short answer: no.


Since our latest poster is now reading that (aka this) very thread (and therefore may be some time before he returns, if he needs to), we may as well free up the front page space.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: davidjones1966 on 03 March 2011, 02:29:11 am
Hi,

Going to give Male Escorting a go, but do see I am up against it!

I have registered a website and wondered if there is anyone out there who can assist me with my website. Or at least point me in the right direction. Glasgow/Edinburgh based.

Cheers
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 03 March 2011, 05:21:17 am
David, assuming from your comment that you are straight and hoping for female clients, I have moved your post to the appropriate thread. Please read the rest of it and maybe have a think about whether it is worth you spending valuable time trying to build a website that will serve no purpose whatsoever except taking up server space.

That said, if you can master a free sitebuilder like Moonfruit, the skills you will have learned will stand you in far better stead than any straight male escort, and could earn you far more money too, although so will signing on. You could also try Wordpress.

If you are determined to hand over money, there are a fair few web designers advertising in the Spamming section who I'm sure will be more than happy to take it.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: NubianTemptress on 03 March 2011, 11:28:01 am
when will they ever learn?!  ::)

Although today on AW one is phonechat member of the day & apparently on tour LOL
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: 1timeonly on 15 April 2011, 08:25:56 pm
hi,

Just signed up to Ideal Escorts (male to entertain ladies) - does anyone know if it is legit - they are asking for ?295 upfront payment and have already booked me in for Monday (today is Friday!) I will get cash from the client when i meet her but i need to pay before i go to meet her - before i pay them does anyone have any advice on this company? whether it is a scam or not?

http://www.idealescorts.co.uk/ukescorts/index.jsp

thanks very much;)

look forward to your advice!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 15 April 2011, 08:36:24 pm
Total scam.

Someone not using a mobile will be along to join this to the straight male thread, but you've just saved more than you will ever earn..
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 15 April 2011, 08:38:39 pm
Please read this thread (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2214.0) for your answers. I'll merge your post into the thread, too, so that the forum stays tidy.

Short answer: Yes, it's a scam. Do not pay any money up-front as a genuine agency would never ask for it. The market for men to please the laydeez is pretty over-saturated, considering only about 10 male escorts in the world get a couple of bookings a year each. It's not a good job to go into full-time.

Merging completed! I'm a great big genius.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: pandora on 01 May 2011, 06:33:19 pm
Please check out Tauntonmale19 on AW. He has blogged today and it is a classic.

He offers his services to the ladies, with the first 10 getting a discount! He offers to spray his cum everywhere, fist us, or even impregnate us - check the fee for that!.  Rofl!!!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Dionne on 01 May 2011, 06:43:49 pm
Please check out Tauntonmale19 on AW. He has blogged today and it is a classic.

He offers his services to the ladies, with the first 10 getting a discount! He offers to spray his cum everywhere, fist us, or even impregnate us - check the fee for that!.  Rofl!!!

lmao tauntonmale9!!
hahahaha
"also having trouble getting pregnant im very fertile and cn help you pls enquire as to costs"

oh dear oh dear
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Iman on 01 May 2011, 11:42:08 pm
LMAO!

There is a market for sperm donors, but AW really isn't the place for it.

I've just noticed though, he has a rating. Either he has some very helpful friends, or he's struck it lucky in Somerset! I suppose it helps that he's also a builder...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: pandora on 02 May 2011, 06:31:56 pm
LMAO!

There is a market for sperm donors, but AW really isn't the place for it.

I've just noticed though, he has a rating. Either he has some very helpful friends, or he's struck it lucky in Somerset! I suppose it helps that he's also a builder...

It's a webcam.  Looks like no one has taken him up on his offer.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: HornySeany on 06 May 2011, 09:50:46 am
Hi there one and all, im new to this but looking to become a male escort, wondered if any one could give me any advice, especially on any reputable websites, all my searches tend to bring up dodgey looking ones and i can't seem to find one that is even remotely professional!
Much appreciated!:-)
Sean
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 06 May 2011, 10:12:33 am
If you are straight and looking to escort women, you are wasting your time - the market is so small as to be non-existent, no matter what the scammers may have told you. There is more information here: http://www.sw5.info/straightmen.htm (http://www.sw5.info/straightmen.htm). Women don't pay men to spend time with them whether it's for sex or not; think about it logically - why on earth would we, when we can get a shag for little more than the cost of a good bra and ten minutes spent laughing at your jokes? If you don't want to believe me that's fine, but there's twelve pages of thread here to back me up, and I suggest you read them.

If you are gay or bi then I'm no expert, but I think gay male escorts tend to work more often as independents rather than for agencies - I'm sure someone who knows more about it than me will be along at some point! The advice on the main SAAFE site is pretty much gender-neutral too.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: daveorg on 25 May 2011, 11:26:11 am
Hi , I'm male , I have just paid ?276 to join perfectly matched.co.UK as a companion , I've been on loads of sites looking for info to see if it is a scam but have not come across any for this agency . Has anybody heard differently or is it a cosha site ?

I have my 1st client this evening has anyone got any good tips for a novice in this industry ?

Very much appreciated
Thanks
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 25 May 2011, 11:37:32 am
I've moved this one here, but I could have picked the big scam 'agency' thread. Sorry...

Hi , I'm male , I have just paid ?276 to join perfectly matched.co.UK as a companion , I've been on loads of sites looking for info to see if it is a scam but have not come across any for this agency . Has anybody heard differently or is it a cosha site ?

Because the various scams get bad reputations, the scammers have a never ending stream of new names for the same scam. (Plus some people fall for it repeatedly - I think the most I've heard of is six times.)

They want money upfront = they're a scam, no matter what the name is.

I have my 1st client this evening has anyone got any good tips for a novice in this industry ?

Don't bother going: they won't show up because they don't exist.

Update: looking it up, there's a name and address associated with this domain, but I wouldn't necessarily believe that either. How did they want the money?

Ah, yes, they have the 'we lied to you' bit in the terms and conditions:

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6. Perfectly Matched does not accept any liability or responsibility should your advertisement on the online brochure fail to achieve a response.

That's because you've just paid ?276 to advertise to yourself and, possibly, other victims. Can you see other profiles? Because as someone who hasn't 'joined', I can't see any.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Dionne on 25 May 2011, 03:24:13 pm
"why on earth would we, when we can get a shag for little more than the cost of a good bra and ten minutes spent laughing at your jokes? "

ROTFL
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: daveorg on 25 May 2011, 05:57:36 pm
Wish i had  found this site earlier just had phone call my client has cancelled tonight However wants to reschedule for tomorrow , I take it this is a  scam and I have been  >:(conned.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 25 May 2011, 06:23:35 pm
To be honest, I'm surprised they're bothering to keep up the pretence the client exists.

About the only reason I can think of is that they think it's possible you might get your money back some how if they keep you stringing along for a few more days?

How did you pay them? Have you ever logged onto their site? (If not, don't!)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: pureza on 29 June 2011, 08:59:32 pm
I have decided to become a straight male escort as I believe I would be very good as have all the physical and intellectual abilities...I do not  want to reduce this to an advert...I need advice on which agencies to join as research has revealed the scams of up front fees and empty promises. I would appreciate the advice.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 29 June 2011, 09:11:52 pm
I have decided to become a straight male escort as I believe I would be very good as have all the physical and intellectual abilities...I do not  want to reduce this to an advert...I need advice on which agencies to join as research has revealed the scams of up front fees and empty promises. I would appreciate the advice.

All the advice you need is in this thread, where I have moved your post since it's the only part of the forum there is any value in you reading. If you haven't given any scammers any money count your blessings and as ever, start working on your plan B.

There are no particular abilities, physical or otherwise required to work successfully as a prostitute; the only thing you need is a willingness to provide services to men. If you can do that, head for the main site  (http://www.saafe.info/)and start reading.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: headgirl on 29 June 2011, 09:58:49 pm
One of these days, I'm going to get 'round to writing a spoof article about straight men demanding equal opportunities and 'equal pay for equal work', in the sex industry.  ;D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 29 June 2011, 10:13:37 pm
One of these days, I'm going to get 'round to writing a spoof article about straight men demanding equal opportunities and 'equal pay for equal work', in the sex industry.  ;D

I think most of them would be happy with any pay, me old mate ;D.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Alex556 on 12 July 2011, 04:29:34 am
Hi, my name is Alex.

Stats: Male
Height: 6'2"
Eye Colour: Blue
Hair: Brown
Build: Athletic
Age: 22

Good natured, well spoken, polite, courteous, easy to get along with and I can connect with all age groups easily.
Altho on the flip side I have a low tolerance for blatant stupidity.


From what I can tell this is a predominantly female escort board and Im looking for any and all information you ladies may be able to provide me.
Recently things within my life have caused me to look at supplementing my income and as it is quite hard to find good work here (In Australia) im contemplating going into the escort business.

A few women I know are happy to "Pimp" me out as they would have more contacts than I to obtain paying customers for my services.

So my main question is quite a broad one and I understand if I need to clarify...

- What do I need to know getting into the escort business ?
- Is there an online archive of accessable documents relating to "Newbies" regarding practice and procedures?
-Also is there a high demand for male escorts?

Basically I know absolutely nothing save "you get paid to escort and spend time with the client and theres extra if they want you to perform sexual acts."

I do understand that its not enough to just be physically attractive to become a successful escort and after going over source after source on the net I decided that the best people to ask would be those in the business.

Also I understand that being hired as a male escort will not always involve sex and instead simple things such as just stroking the clients hair, holding her hand etc and basic companionship is what they are after..

How do you cut the emotional tie that binds when you start those small things? Is it as simple as "This is work - Not my personal life."?
*(Apologies if any of my wording has come across brash or offended anyone - Again Im trying to learn what its all about.)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: CeCe on 12 July 2011, 06:35:14 am
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I do understand that its not enough to just be physically attractive to become a successful escort and after going over source after source on the net I decided that the best people to ask would be those in the business.

Also I understand that being hired as a male escort will not always involve sex and instead simple things such as just stroking the clients hair, holding her hand etc and basic companionship is what they are after..

The "her" in the second paragraph of this quote seems to indicate you haven't been over that many sources after all. Is it just me or does it sound like you'd be disappointed if no sex was involved? That in itself is a bloody good explanation of why the market for straight male escorts is what it is. I've got a feeling one of our mods will explain it far better than I ever could ;D

 
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Sweet-Pleasure on 12 July 2011, 06:55:50 am
Hi there!

If you are a straight male looking to escort women this thread has all the info you need

http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=1242.0

If you are gay or bi most of the info on the info site should help you

http://www.saafe.info/

Good luck!

XxX
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Alex556 on 12 July 2011, 07:01:44 am
In regards to the "her" you mentioned in the second paragraph of the aformentioned quote it was actually a subconscious motion towards the fact that I would be working as a strictly heterosexual male escort.

As for your mention of  "Is it just me or does it sound like you'd be disappointed if no sex was involved? "
In fact no - I would prefer companionship encounters please refer to my question of:

 "How do you cut the emotional tie that binds when you start those small things? Is it as simple as "This is work - Not my personal life."?"

As im looking for information on how you deal with being an escort and then still wanting to have a personal life where you can feel intimate..

You would be familiar with the types of males who are only in something for sex.
With out me going into "Life story" Mode - Its not hard for me to find a casual sexual partner and I have many opportunitys to meet and find new ones.
The thing is that holds no interest for me.
My goal listing is:
Money
Secure the mortgage
Find a woman who is a match for me - Mentally, emotionally, physically everything.

So this is about money, Its about me living.

After reading through the linked information from MissArcaBunny - It seems quite apparent that you all feel there is no demand for the male hired by female escort relationship?

Even tho through the internet sources I have looked through tell me that in Australia it is a much different scene then from countries such as England etc.

Even one news article that gave special praise to one man in melbourne who provided "The Ultimate Boyfriend Experiance" for his strictly female clientele; Of course the article did not provide any way of contacting him or his name, but elluded to the point that there was business to be had.

Again after reading through the linked articles for straight males - I do understand why you proffessional women would have a low tolerance for the male who has thought lightly on the subject of a beer or other such alcoholic beverage and concluded "THATS A GOOD IDEA!".

It explains why there are such little replys to my post also.

On a side note: Why am I continually stuck with the truism "Nice guys finish last.."??  >:(
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: pandora on 12 July 2011, 07:40:50 am
If you are not gay there is no market.  However good looking you are we will not pay for it as we can surf 100's of men in an instant on dating sites or in bars.

In the unlikely event that you did get a job, how would you feel when you had to go down on an 80 year old woman for an hour, and look like you were enjoying it.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Alex556 on 12 July 2011, 08:13:29 am
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In the unlikely event that you did get a job, how would you feel when you had to go down on an 80 year old woman for an hour, and look like you were enjoying it.

I had infact though about this and concluded that if you were working at another job being paid less and were asked to perform any other task which you disliked you would still have to grin and endure it.
Work is after all Work.

After reading more thoroughly through the "Sraight male escorting - The scammers favourite myth"

I can quite clearly see that there is not a market as I was first lead to believe.
Apon doing an initial search you are hit with thousands of websites promoting male escorting and further thousands of indie advertisements.

Making it look quite decieving indeed even for those who have done some albeit little research. *(Much like myself - Male escorting has been an idea Ive toyed and searched about before but never contacted anyone with any knowledge on.)

And common sense dictates that yes, it is far easier for women to get compainionship and sex then it is for men - by default!

I am left skeptical about the Australian market. (Due to the various articles that are telling me that the Australian market is much different to that of the rest of the world.)

But I now would like to turn my attention to you ladies.
How do you cope with your line of work?
I assume that it would take a toll on your mental health and for the inexperianced bring about severe bouts of depression?
I know a few strippers and no I am not trying to compare you but have been told that stripping takes a similar mental toll on a person....
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 12 July 2011, 08:42:04 am
I can quite clearly see that there is not a market as I was first lead to believe.
Apon doing an initial search you are hit with thousands of websites promoting male escorting and further thousands of indie advertisements.

The only people promoting the myth that there's a significant market for straight male escorts are those who want to make money off men like you. Sadly, there are lots of the former, because there are thousands and thousands of the latter.

I am left skeptical about the Australian market. (Due to the various articles that are telling me that the Australian market is much different to that of the rest of the world.)

You can give some URLs so we can have a laugh, but I bet that anyone saying there is a market wants money off you somehow.

But I now would like to turn my attention to you ladies.

I don't think that's really appropriate here. There are numerous client sites where you can ask these sort of things, even if you don't think of yourself as a client.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 12 July 2011, 09:28:10 am
As xw5 said, this is not the forum for random interested strangers to question us on our jobs. If you want to chat to a prossie, either hang out on the punter forums (Googling that term will find you plenty) where working girls who are happy to discuss stuff with random strangers do so, or book an escort yourself. It's okay, we don't mind if you pay the full fee just to spend an hour talking. ;)

Since you've hopefully now realised, Alex, that the market for women seeking to pay men for sex is small (there are plenty of men out there saying that they are marketing themselves to women, and even female escorts saying that they've had plenty of female clients, but I wouldn't imagine anyone really sees more than perhaps four or five female clients per year - most likely in couples bookings with a male client too - and even that would require huge amounts of effort in networking, marketing and advertising, so would probably cost more than you earned. Paying money for an ego boost is absolutely fine, of course, but don't be thinking you'll be making a significant income without providing services to men - I think most "I'm a straight male escort servicing Teh Hott  Single Laydeez every day" blogs and articles out there are absolute bollocks!) there's no need for this thread to continue.

If you start providing sexual services to men, you are 100% welcome to stay here at SAAFE - we are a forum for sex workers of any kind.

If, however, you do not become a genuine sex worker, please respectfully take your leave. We have enough curious strangers (and worse!) lurking about here already.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: AngelaManchester on 12 July 2011, 10:25:11 am
But I now would like to turn my attention to you ladies.
How do you cope with your line of work?
Breathtakingly arrogant.

What business is it of yours?

And if you honestly believe a woman will pay you to 'stroke her hair' (LMAO!) then you are seriously deluded.

It doesn't matter what age you are, or what you look like: straight women won't pay you to spend time with them (even though you are obviously God's gift).  You may be able to make some money providing services for men (I'd love to see you try the 'hair stroking' on a man who's paid you LOL) so, when you're sucking cock for a living, come back and tell us how it's going.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Dionne on 12 July 2011, 10:40:26 am
With out me going into "Life story" Mode - Its not hard for me to find a casual sexual partner and I have many opportunitys to meet and find new ones.

The same goes for 90% of all women hence why the market for male escorts is so small
x
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 12 July 2011, 11:40:45 am
Alex

Your comments about the 'media' articles got my attention. Over here we often see articles in magazines regards male escorting, where quite often the female journalist hires herself such an escort. Interestingly enough you'll see the words "He told me I was his first..." usually within the subsequent article. We also have even had 'Male Escort' storylines in a very well-known soap opera too. All of this quite nicely perpetuates the myth that it does exist, more often than not you'll find adverts for the rogue, scamming 'agencies' carried in the ad pages of such magazines. Now it doesn't require a degree in rocket science to make the link that the articles SELL magazines, and also support their advertisers now does it?

Three facts;

Most women can find a man to stroke their hair, or pamper them - not least have sex!
Women generally don't have the same strong urges for sex that men have
Women are often more touchy feely with each other, and their friends/family so do not tend to lack physical contact
Women are more often restricted by society, family and work circumstances

Actually that's four! If you'd like to give it a go and perhaps get back to us, I'm sure we'd be interested to know how you get along.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Cherrylips on 12 July 2011, 12:10:51 pm
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I assume that it would take a toll on your mental health and for the inexperianced bring about severe bouts of depression?
I know a few strippers and no I am not trying to compare you but have been told that stripping takes a similar mental toll on a person....

I'm sure you said in your first post that you have "a low tolerance for blatant stupidity"?  So do I.  

Have you perused this site at all?  Have you read any of the topics?  If so, have you seen any in which we are all moaning about how depressed we are and how we are all suffering from severe bouts of depression?  There are indeed some ladies who experience burn out after working for some time and this job is not for everyone and you do have to be strong mentally, but to infer that we must all suffering from depression and must surely hate ourselves for the job we do is unbelievable.  In fact it is quite the opposite for the vast majority of us I would say.

Even if there were jobs for straight male escorts (which there are not) I get the feeling that you would not be suited to this line of work at all.  Your attitude is all wrong.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: tastylass on 12 July 2011, 01:10:56 pm
Hi, my name is Alex.

Stats: Male
Height: 6'2"
Eye Colour: Blue
Hair: Brown
Build: Athletic
Age: 22

- What do I need to know getting into the escort business ?

Here's one useful tip. Don't use the same username on an escort site that you are using on a dating site. (I'm assuming that's you in Springwood.)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 12 July 2011, 05:24:06 pm
Every time we get another one of these jokers, I wonder if it's possible for them to be any more insufferable. And it is! :D

I'm bloody glad I slept through this, to be honest  ;D.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: danielpatterson123 on 10 August 2011, 11:20:54 am
i'm a guy that's just been suckered by MEN AT WORK. It's crap, but i should've done my homework first, lesson learnt, but i really do want to do escorting. Does anyone know of any agencies that they can recommend which are real genuine agencies that aren't going to scam me that i can contact please?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Dionne on 10 August 2011, 11:28:55 am
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Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 10 August 2011, 11:33:43 am
i'm a guy that's just been suckered by MEN AT WORK. It's crap, but i should've done my homework first, lesson learnt, but i really do want to do escorting. Does anyone know of any agencies that they can recommend which are real genuine agencies that aren't going to scam me that i can contact please?

Hi Daniel,

I've merged your post with the most relevant thread on the topic. Straight male escorting is mostly a myth. You could get perhaps 1-5 bookings per year, but you'd need to spend more than you earned from that on marketing yourself in order to get the jobs in the first place.

Most "straight male escorts" are either scammers themselves (trying to persuade unfortunate souls to pay for his advice or to join his fake agency), or they have a regular day job and just hunt for women who pay for sex in their spare time, or they also suck plenty of willies for cash just like the vast majority of prostitutes do.

Read the entire of this thread for more information.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: checkinyou on 28 October 2011, 12:12:00 am
Sorry to dig up an old thread.

Is it true then that straight male escorts are not making money, and there is no real demand for them? I keep hearing word of mouth that there is a demand, and decided to try and take the plunge into this as I've thought about doing this for quite a while now. cam sites have hinded progress but just got into contact with some legit agencies so waiting to see how it goes from there. Could be word of mouth trying to get me to convert from being straight though...lol
----HI THERE DID YOU MANAGE TO FIND ANY NON CON MALE ESCORT WEBSITE . ICARNT SEEM TO FIND ANY THAT DONT WANT MONEY OFF ME IM NOT PAYING THEM A PENNY.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: checkinyou on 28 October 2011, 12:21:23 am
HI every 1 hope some can pont me in the right way . im wanting to become a male escort its something that i would be realy good at but every site i seem to go on wants money off me . if any 1 can help please do thanks all.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 28 October 2011, 12:23:58 am
Checkinyou, please don't post in all caps - we don't need you shouting at us.

I have moved your post into this thread as it is more current than the ancient one you originally posted in. I could just as easily have put it in this one (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=385.120), and I suggest you read them both.

If you can't be bothered, the short answer is no he didn't, no you won't and no you shouldn't. Unless I've misunderstood and you're planning on doing men, in which case independence beckons and you should have a good read through the main site.


EDIT: Second post also moved. Please don't post in the Warnings section unless you are posting a warning.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Penny on 28 October 2011, 03:05:12 am
I met with some sucessful male escorts last week, who confirmed that there is no business for straight guys.  There is a limited market for bi/gay male escorts, which is what they are.

I now have a couple of gay male escort buddys on www.escortbuddys.com.  Please contact me via there if you would find this useful.

Penny
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: elvis on 30 October 2011, 07:35:24 pm
Gidday, I m thinking of becoming a male escort, but having done a bit of research there appears to be alot of scams out there!
Does anybody have any advice for me please.
I am Milton Keynes based.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 30 October 2011, 07:57:23 pm
Elvis, have you read any of this thread at all, even the post directly above yours? There is more advice here than you can shake a stick at, after all. No pun intended.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: batacanda on 30 November 2011, 10:05:51 pm
hi world,i believe i been scamed  from one agency for male escort i paid ?249 AMBER COMPANION and i borrow this amount so please somebody can help me how to get my money back or if somebody knows a genuine  agency please let me now MERRY CHRISTMAS
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 30 November 2011, 10:18:50 pm
Ah, someone beat me in finding this to merge your post into. As you can see, sadly you are not the first victim of the scammers and, no, there are no real agencies... unless you're willing to be sexual with men.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 30 November 2011, 10:23:22 pm
Ah, someone beat me in finding this to merge your post into. As you can see, sadly you are not the first victim of the scammers and, no, there are no real agencies... unless you're willing to be sexual with men.

It was meee :). But if you're not on a phone it'd be a lot easier for you to post the usual links to the scam agency thread/article/SW5 stuff...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: cate hemmingway on 06 December 2011, 10:22:26 pm
Oh dear!  The eternal optimism of man never ceases to totally gobsmack and amaze me!
Who exactly (apart from the scammers) is perpetuating this ridiculous myth that there's a market for straight male escorts?

Has anyone noticed, that all the way through this thread, the gents concerned extol their fantastical attributes by way of justifying their suitability for this rarified role?

When have you seen ANY girl, who's asking for similar start-up advice, justify herself like this?

It reminds me of the Field Reports on AW, and the way guys claim us girls have had the time of our lives , and thoroughly enjoyed ourselves, while they variously mauled, sucked, poked, f****d and  generally "pleasured" us.  I think NOT!!!

I'm left thinking that the average guy, like most of my clients, is seriously delusional.

It's obviously a gender thing.

Oh well, who are we to burst their bubbles?

On a positive note,  in many cases, it's that very arrogance and desperation that supplies the demand for what we offer isn't it?  Long may they continue to seek the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow I say!  ;D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 06 December 2011, 10:37:30 pm
Oh dear!  The eternal optimism of man never ceases to totally gobsmack and amaze me!
Who exactly (apart from the scammers) is perpetuating this ridiculous myth that there's a market for straight male escorts?

Apart from the scammers, we have the media. Step forward GQ, various crap soap operas, the gutter press et al.

Has anyone noticed, that all the way through this thread, the gents concerned extol their fantastical attributes by way of justifying their suitability for this rarified role?

Not all of them do. Some of them are broke, none too bright and so desperate for money that they fall for the (apparently) extremely well polished sales pitch. The scammers are used to preying on the vulnerable as well as the vain and deluded.

It reminds me of the Field Reports on AW, and the way guys claim us girls have had the time of our lives , and thoroughly enjoyed ourselves, while they variously mauled, sucked, poked, f****d and  generally "pleasured" us.  I think NOT!!!

Well I've had three great bookings today, although I'm completely knackered now. Some FRs are chest-thumping bollocks and some aren't, but if these men believed that the lady they were with had that much of a great time, then she's obviously very good at her job. And provided the paying customer thought it was great, who cares?

I'm left thinking that the average guy, like most of my clients, is seriously delusional.

It sounds very much to me like you need some nicer clients, Cate. This  post smacks of impending burnout and I would seriously think about scaling down a bit if this is how you're feeling about your work and men generally - a bitter old whore isn't a pleasant thing to be.

Oh well, who are we to burst their bubbles?

Well we at SAAFE are a support and advice resource for those who want (or think they can) start a career in the sex industry. 'Bursting their bubbles' keeps money out of the scammers' pockets as well as saving time and false hope for the others.

On a positive note,  in many cases, it's that very arrogance and desperation that supplies the demand for what we offer isn't it?  Long may they continue to seek the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow I say!  ;D

I have to say it, that's possibly the least positive-sounding 'positive note' I've ever read. I'm sorry Cate, but if you've signed up here because you think we'll all be dying to join in a load of mocking, misandry and manhating, I suspect you're going to be sorely disappointed.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: rangerdave on 03 January 2012, 03:01:36 am
I work fulltime so I've only been doing this for a few months in my spare time at weekends and the odd evening! Generally only about once a fortnight or sometimes a little more   , Only problem is that id like  to branch out a little bit and get someone to help manage things a little better! So far I've just been working through female "friends" that  i know who  "suggest" an escort to their friends and out of curiosity some of them have hired me! I only really started as abit of a joke and a laugh but I'm actually quite enjoying it! id like to do it a little more professionally though and I'm not really sure what way to go about it, making a website isn't an option as i cant advertise that way because of my normal job. so far its all been through word of mouth so to speak so any ideas on how to expand on this a little ??? 

PS I'm not wanting this to turn into a fulltime career and i don't need the money as i earn plenty its purely because I've enjoyed it so far and would like to do it a little more maybe a few times a week,
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 03 January 2012, 03:11:35 am
I have merged your thread here because it is the best place for it - I suggest you go back to the beginning and read it. I also suggest that if you are worried about your full time job, you remove the face picture from your profile since having it in a public forum for prostitutes is unlikely to be a particularly sensible idea.

In a nutshell, if you've had any bookings at all, the friend of a friend stuff is working and the novelty hasn't worn off yet I would say enjoy it while you can. The chance of ordinary civvy women who you don't already know paying you (or any other man) to have sex with them are infinitessimal already, and if you don't want to advertise then it's probably whatever around 1% of that is.

If you want to know why, again, read the thread since glancing at your IP activity indicates you have missed it. It's late, but a few pages ought to do in all honesty as it's pretty much the same thing over and over.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: gardenmaster on 03 January 2012, 06:03:43 pm
Hi, I would like to become a male escort does anyone know of any agencies. I am from Chelmsford but can travel.
Thankyou
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: janitor on 03 January 2012, 06:26:19 pm
I have merged your post with this thread which was just a few topics down, Im afraid on reading this you will find there are no agencys that will offer you any work, but quite a few willing to take your money.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: gardenmaster on 03 January 2012, 06:39:07 pm
So how do I get into the industry
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 03 January 2012, 06:43:20 pm
Most working male escorts operate independently - try Gaydar. Have a read of the main SAAFE site too, since much of the advice is gender neutral.

If you don't want to do men, try the Jobcentre. Read the rest of this thread to find out why.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Oriana on 03 January 2012, 07:17:36 pm
You straight male escort rookies might ask for advice one or several guys listed at Concierge du Monde (http://www.conciergedumonde.com/default.htm).  This is the only straight male escort directory I came across. I really, really want to know exactly how busy they are. ;)

And yes, it is much better to invest in your website than spend money on scam agencies entrance fee.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: rangerdave on 03 January 2012, 08:47:13 pm
@ Amy .
id read through a few of the threads posted on here before! probably could have worded my question a little better i guess! I'm not really looking for advice on how to advertise so much as advice on how to manage things a little better,  just because with me working fulltime its kind of hard for me to take calls or make arrangements,  sort of wondering how you can do this without someone else IE an agency doing it for you! Ive got enough interest to keep me busy about as much as id like just not sure how best to work things, for example is it easier through email or text or should i get someone to take calls through the day for me that sort of thing! just wondering what works best and easiest !!    oh and the pic was supposed to be a diff one but was late and loaded up the wrong one and went to sleep before id checked but thanks ..
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 03 January 2012, 10:00:05 pm
You're not going to get calls through the day, so there isn't much of a problem.

In practice, women booking male escorts have thought about this a lot and are not going 'Horny! I wanna an escort, here, now!' in the way that some men are (regardless of the gender of escort they're after). Email will be fine.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: River on 03 January 2012, 10:04:34 pm
oh and the pic was supposed to be a diff one but was late and loaded up the wrong one and went to sleep before id checked but thanks ..
Hey, Bruce (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCZ6UjRKOM8), Amy is right.   ::)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Liverbird on 03 January 2012, 10:37:57 pm
Quote
PS I'm not wanting this to turn into a fulltime career and i don't need the money as i earn plenty its purely because I've enjoyed it so far and would like to do it a little more maybe a few times a week...

Ive got enough interest to keep me busy about as much as id like...

You don't need the money and you're busy enough?  ??? Well if that really IS the case mate, you're a helluva lot better off than some of the wg's on here. You outta be giving US advice! ;D


Tiny edit by Emily: Fixed quotes. PM me if there's anything missing here. :)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: rangerdave on 04 January 2012, 12:48:45 am
 @ xw5 lol i had thought of email but i hardly get the chance to look at my phone through the day let alone sort my emails! but i get your point about probably getting most of the bookings at night! thanks though! thinking what i might do is make a new email address and set it up so that it replies automatically with a email containing available times like if im only available sat and thurs evening for example then could say that and let them respond with when and where theyd like to meet.   Think that would work ???

@ Jodie im not too worried about people knowing as long as they cant get me into trouble at work! that would be a right pain in the ass lol

@ wiley ive never found money something thats hard to come by if your willing to put the time and effort into obtaining it! the main reason ive found people are broke jobless and generally complaining about not having enough is because they allways expect things to fall into their laps and never actually get up and put proper time and effort into looking for ways to make it! and in regards to being busy enough im not wanting to do it all the time just maybe twice a week or so and the way its worked out so far that hasnt been to hard! fair enough the social circle my female friends are involved in is probably a large factor in why ive got the interest i have but then like i said before i think a large part of peoples problems with never getting things accomplished is attitude and lazyness ,   sorry if that sounded abit like im ranting on because dont mean to lol
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: River on 04 January 2012, 01:11:00 am
im not too worried about people knowing as long as they cant get me into trouble at work! that would be a right pain in the ass lol
Bbb bb but, going on your photo, you're Sam Axe. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Axe)
Information
Aliases: Charles "Chuck" Finley
Occupation:Freelance Independent Contractor, CIA Civilian Intelligence Asset.
Former: Navy SEAL
Family: Amanda, wife (estranged)

They got to Michael Weston (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkep3j_burn-notice-opening_shortfilms), so they could get to you.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: rangerdave on 04 January 2012, 01:42:56 am
 i changed it to one of the default ones when i realised! although being CIA would be pretty cool if i were American lmao
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 04 January 2012, 02:03:02 am
I'll keep it brief because the bloody internet in my hotel doesn't work and since I'm not in the UK this is costing me ?3 a minute.

Firstly one minor thing; Dave, there is a 'Quote' button at the top right of each post which you can use when replying to individual posts. This is not Twitter.

If you just want to shag some of your friends' mates and they're stupid enough to pay you I suggest you carry on as you are - it doesn't sound as if you have the time or the organisational skills to run a part time business, and whilst I wouldn't expect anybody to put in the hours I do if it was just a sideline, the fact remains that you are self employed and need to take responsibility for everything that entails.

Your posts don't suggest that you are interested in finding clients outside your usual 'circle' or comfort zone - how would you handle having to perform oral on a probably-slightly-pongy-and-boring lady in her seventies for an hour, for example? Don't forget you have to also look like you're loving every second and make her feel like the most gorgeous woman on earth, because that is your job. It sounds to me as if you just want to have your cake and eat it, and why not? It's unlikely to last, and I can only advise you enjoy it while you can.

In terms of your view on success, it doesn't sound like a rant, rather exactly the sort of na?ve and simplistic arrogance which we would expect from somebody your age. I was exactly like it when I was about 18, but fortunately I learned over the ensuing twenty years that the stories behind people's experiences, circumstances and attitudes are as diverse as they are. That isn't meant to sound patronising, just honest - whilst hard work generally does pay off and laziness rarely does, unfortunately sometimes and for some people, life's just a shithouse.

Well done on the avatar. You might want to improve your profile further by editing the font colour of your signature so that it matches the background, and then I won't have to go sleep with a picture of a roomful of David Brents at some Z-list motivational seminar burned into my consciousness.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: rangerdave on 04 January 2012, 03:06:44 am
I'll keep it brief because the bloody internet in my hotel doesn't work and since I'm not in the UK this is costing me ?3 a minute.

Firstly one minor thing; Dave, there is a 'Quote' button at the top right of each post which you can use when replying to individual posts. This is not Twitter.

If you just want to shag some of your friends' mates and they're stupid enough to pay you I suggest you carry on as you are - it doesn't sound as if you have the time or the organisational skills to run a part time business, and whilst I wouldn't expect anybody to put in the hours I do if it was just a sideline, the fact remains that you are self employed and need to take responsibility for everything that entails.

Your posts don't suggest that you are interested in finding clients outside your usual 'circle' or comfort zone - how would you handle having to perform oral on a probably-slightly-pongy-and-boring lady in her seventies for an hour, for example? Don't forget you have to also look like you're loving every second and make her feel like the most gorgeous woman on earth, because that is your job. It sounds to me as if you just want to have your cake and eat it, and why not? It's unlikely to last, and I can only advise you enjoy it while you can.

In terms of your view on success, it doesn't sound like a rant, rather exactly the sort of naive and simplistic arrogance which we would expect from somebody your age. I was exactly like it when I was about 18, but fortunately I learned over the ensuing twenty years that the stories behind people's experiences, circumstances and attitudes are as diverse as they are. That isn't meant to sound patronising, just honest - whilst hard work generally does pay off and laziness rarely does, unfortunately sometimes and for some people, life's just a shithouse.

Well done on the avatar. You might want to improve your profile further by editing the font colour of your signature so that it matches the background, and then I won't have to go sleep with a picture of a roomful of David Brents at some Z-list motivational seminar burned into my consciousness.


found the quote button lol   

with regards to my free time you may be right but then i am only doing this as abit of a novelty i guess! although even after reading all the posts about how theres no market for straight male escorting i cant help but disagree slightly and add that i think given the right direction and spin needed it would actually pay off!   also although your correct in that i started just seeing a mates friends Ive actually had more interest from people outside her immediate social circle, word of mouth sort of thing ,  as regards to my organisational skills that's not a problem i was merely asking your opinion on what you think would be the best way to go about it as you obviously have more experience in this area than me and would be the subject matter expert.

as for my comfort zone and getting business from outside my normal circle that isn't much of a problem within reason, although Ive already mentioned to everyone that Ive met so far before Ive met them that they must be clean and visibly std clear, and in regards to having to give oral to a boring lady in her 70s id do it and make her think i enjoyed doing it as long as shes clean, if she isn't then i wouldn't do it, but then i dont think many female workers would give oral to a guy if he were unclean ,  and as for wanting to "have my cake and eat it" of course i do , like most people i enjoy sex so why not get paid for it ..

as regards my view on success i did mean in a broad sense of people, obviously there are people who for whatever reason are somehow incapable of achieving success in things like making money but then i think with a little intelligence ingenuity and hardwork pretty much anything is possible within reason, i don't feel that makes me naive or arrogant , just that from my personal experience most successful people who haven't just been lucky have managed to be successful hard work and actually getting up and doing things rather than just talking about them,  but like i said there are exceptions

as for the signature i removed it seeing as it was annoying you lol
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 04 January 2012, 10:42:56 am
Incapable?!

That's a patronising attitude. I find those expressing the sort of words you have, have usually very little experience of life indeed. Some people who are very capable of earning lots of money, often have the odds stacked against them and thus do not acheive the same as others of similar or even less ability. Also for some it simply isn't a possible lifestyle for many reasons - they may have other responsibilities or illness which makes chasing ????s a lower priority.

I know a variety of successful people in all walks of life, some have worked hard, others have had the right opportunties come there way, finally some have overcome extreme difficulty. I also know people who have not enjoyed success despite working very hard misfortune has come their way.

All the guys who ask me about becoming a male escort I say to them "Here's a few tips, read SAAFE, go away, do the things suggested and come back when you have all these women lining up to pay you". No one has come back yet. I have met one male escort who does get bookings, these are all in London and are few and far between. There is also a difference between servicing friends of friends, and going blind into a meet with a complete stranger.  You will also get a lot of timewasters which can be draining mentally and motivationally.

I've had calls from male escorts asking me for advice with their profiles, one big thing I noticed was that they were getting 10% of the views a similarly attractive female would have had, and those were probably from those he was making bookings with. Another guy dropped his rates gradually until he became 'free'. I am guessing you are a bit of a novelty to your friends at the moment. I personally don't offer my services to friends, because it can just become too complicated - that's not to say I haven't become 'friends' of sorts with clients though.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Liverbird on 04 January 2012, 07:22:12 pm
I'm thinking you are knowing it all rangerdave... therefore I say to you, 'Go forth and f**k for money and pleasure! (Not to mention 'novelty') :-X... I wish you the very best with your 'part time, just for fun' venture...
You are bisexual I take it? ;)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EvaBeeva on 04 January 2012, 11:50:10 pm
This is a really interesting thread.  In all the years I've been working I've never met a male escort who wasn't prepared to have his weiner sucked by a guy, gay -for- pay type thing.  In fact I've never heard of a man in porn who wasn't prepared to have sex with a guy for money (I have friends in porn, I am not in porn so I could be wrong), so what is this Straight. Male. Escort. thing that you speak of?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: River on 05 January 2012, 02:02:08 am
Hi again RangerDave/Bruce Campbell
{I love Burn notice, one of my fav shows, I think your character, Sam Axe, is awesome}

So you wish to exclusively to Contract with Women, to provide sex services?
The consensus here on SAAFE is that this market is tiny.
This is partly tempered by

If there was a viable volume business, agencies would be very active on it.
As they are not, this suggests that ANY REAL MARKET is negligible.

The thing is this is a site used predominately by female escorts.
That means our interest in the area of straight male escorting is curiosity
tempered with the certain knowledge that there is very little indication of real life straight male escorting.
If there is a viable business opportunity for a straight man, no one here knows about it.

By market, I've been specifically excluding friend of friends. But rather total strangers.
However as you will not advertise, show your face nor have a website, this is your only viable potential market.
So yes, you are totally limited to word of mouth.
Sure, word of mouth is the best advertising, it works for movies, video games and fridge freezers.
Generally our society is too restrained to openly talk about sex work.
There are exceptions yes, such as your group of friends.
But this is probably at best a very limited area, one you are very unlikely to expand upon.

So you wish to effectively manage any response to word of mouth.



You have little to loose by doing these things. I am dubious that you will get much work.
Maybe an occasional job, but nothing substantial.
So for this reason, I'm out.  ;D


ps. Please come back in six months and let us know how things go,
good or bad, as this will help other men in a similar position to yours.
{It's a giving something back karma type of thing.}

pps. Stop saying lol.
You don't come across as a professional businessman or escort,
more a teenaged text-boy.
And any potential female client would be well put off, innit!  lol.  ::)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: rangerdave on 05 January 2012, 04:00:40 am
strawberry .. sorry if that sounded patronising i didn't mean it in that way at all, obviously some people aren't interested in making lots of money and some are unable to due to illness or lifestyle etc i did mean that's what id meant by people who were incapable of doing it, "wasn't trying to put anyone down just my personal view on how people generally become successful"   and like i said there are allways exceptions to the rule i was just talking in a broad sense ,  Ive had plenty of life experience and know people from many different backgrounds social circles and varying degrees of wealth  and its just what i personally think so sorry if you think i was trying to be patronising because it wasn't meant in that way whatsoever,

As for becoming a male escort, if i were to attempt this fulltime i have no doubt that it wouldn't work unless i had established a viable market and advertising method, as it is in my opinion the reason there aren't any successful straight male escorts is because they have all been trying to get work through a structure that just isn't there, its obvious that there are no companies who get work for straight male escorts  or established methods of advertising in an effective way that achieves results, personally i think that is because of the way its pitched and because of the amount of timewasters and scams that are out there ,   so far Ive been doing this every now and then for about 3 months and have had around 12 messages asking about what services prices locations etc  i provide , iv found that generally the ladies like to establish a more in depth image of what and who they are paying for and out of the 12 or so messages Ive had 7 diff clients with 4 of them wanting to meet rather regular, and when i said that they were friends i meant a "friend" of mine suggested the idea to some people she knew through social and work circles and then passed on my details,  i didn't actually personally know any of them beforehand,

Wileycoyote .. i wouldn't say I'm a know it all, id just say I'm an optimist, when someone shows me a challenge or a new idea or something that someone hasn't been able to do properly i allways like to give it a try and see what i can do and what spin i can put on it that hasn't been tried before , Ive tried lots of different things before in my spare time and have allways enjoyed the challenge! the novelty is of course a reason for it as well but being able to achieve something that others say isn't viable is the real benefit for me .   and no I'm absolutely straight :)

EvaBeeva..  Ive never met a guy escort at all so i couldn't comment on whether there are some of them out there who are straight and don't do other guys, i know i don't but cant speak for anyone else, as for straight pornstars i do know a few people involved in porn who are straight although one of them pays for the production and costs of alot of the stuff he does so can probably be abit more selective,

JodieTs  ... completely agree with your opinion of the viable volume of  business in this area given the amount of people who try and don't manage to succeed , although i do think that maybe that's because of the way its advertised and scammed, i think women more so than men when paying for an intimate experience need more confidence and assurance that its nothing "wrong" that their doing , hence why because its been suggested by someone else instead of just off a website or via an advertisement its seen as more acceptable to them ,   i mean if i can get a few bookings just from one friend suggesting it to a few people etc then obviously the thought would take in other areas if given the right spin, id be interested to see if a successful male escort agency could be made if women were paid to advertise it in areas which are generally women dominated like women's gym classes etc

i have no problem advertising or perhaps making a website, although due to my job i couldn't show my face it just wouldn't be worth the time or effort at the minute, possibly in the future if i decide to continue and try and do it on a more regular basis and feel that it would achieve something , i will add that the women that i have seen have all seen pictures of me and asked me lots of questions before meeting me,

thanks for the advice about the business cards etc i had thought of that although i didn't think id put that much information on them , guess id need to tho or at least make an HTML link so they can get any other info they want ,
 i wasn't expecting an overwhelming amount of interest either , obviously with the way sex is viewed and especially paying for it by women in general the vast majority of women wouldn't be interested, however the more women i speak to the more i find that there is actually a percentage of women who are interested , maybe just out of curiosity or one of those "what if" thoughts but still there are a few who will take a step or two more and actually do something about it.

as for saying lol its just a bad habit Ive gained over the past while, although i think a majority of people of most ages use it , because I'm certainly not some "teenage text boy"  ,  altho i cn tlk lik dis if ya wan lol       i just generally put lol to show that i find something amusing .

anyways thanks for the advice, ill pop back on in a month or two and let you know how I'm getting on, just to ease your curiosity .....
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 05 January 2012, 08:51:36 am
anyways thanks for the advice, ill pop back on in a month or two and let you know how I'm getting on, just to ease your curiosity .....

Yes, that would be interesting.

To be honest, my first thought about your situation was, "Haven't any of those ladies suggested a counter offer of ?0, yet?" Because frankly, the problem 99.9% of 'straight male escorts' have is that they embark on their new career as just another step in their desperate hunt for a free shag from a prossie, so they spend most of their time 'flirting' with/harassing female sex workers and asking to "exchange services" or "create content", AKA they want to receive a freebie from that woman. This is tedious, annoying and stupid (although sadly I'm sure they wouldn't do it at all if it didn't work in at least 1 in 100 cases) and our industry is just saturated with chancers who add an extra layer of boring to any escort's day as she has to constantly be vigilant about deleting their messages and blocking them lest her time get wasted when she could be dealing with a genuine client instead.

So. The fact that most 'straight male escorts' would probably agree to my counter offer of, "How about I don't give you any money at all, you tedious pillock?" if they thought they'd get a woman touching their penis as a result is likely the reason for their inevitable failure. Nobody wants a desperate escort, after all! If female escorts went around harassing men all day and undercutting our own prices because we just want someone, ANYONE to shag us, well - we'd decimate our own industry, too. It would quickly become difficult to get more than a tenner for a full service!

But, for reasons too various and complex to really go into here, things are as they currently are where women withhold sex for the right price, and men go hunting for it. But if a man decided that he absolutely would also withhold sex unless he was paid the right price, he might - in the right social situation - actually create a situation where sex with him became seen as a (mildly) valuable commodity. I mean, at the end of the day, you'd have to be a fairly bored and wealthy woman to go chasing after a penis cos, you know, they just aren't that fascinating or useful and often come attached to people who want to poke and prod you and "give" you orgasms, which is just distracting when you're trying to enjoy yourself. But nonetheless! I can see how a male escort - if he were smart, attractive in personality as well as looks, and NEVER gave freebies - could probably create a little market for himself.

At the end of the day, though, that probably means a straight male escort ends up getting laid less often than a guy who'll just go with anyone for the sake of being able to tell his mates about it! I can't think of how many of my fellow female escorts and I have grumbled about the difficulty of finding the right guy to be with in your personal life, too, so I'd imagine a straight male escort (should he manage to even exist in the first place) wouldn't have an easy time of relationships either. And all this in exchange for a few hundred quid here and there? If I were a bloke, I'd just go and be a fancy lawyer or finance guy, probably, but I suppose I can see the attraction in being 'different'. Especially if you aren't a slave to your willy and don't understand why so many straight men put so much effort into chasing any fanny. It would probably seem fun in comparison to just wait and see who - if you deny them free access for long enough - is prepared to demonstrate your value to them in cash terms!

Sorry, that was a terribly long ramble. I was just thinking about it this morning. ;D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Rooby on 05 January 2012, 06:26:36 pm
Yep, everything Emily said. I think the bottom line is possibly that men and women are looking for different things. (Warning, HUGE generalisation containing absolutely no startling new insight follows!)

Men want sex - and filth and raunch and naughtiness, to experiment with new positions, new partners, new anything! These are all things that are easy to do given an hour, some privacy and a few accessories. 

Women want intimacy. It takes time, it is sincere and it cant be faked. 

I'm not making a value judgement on the relative worth of either of these things, just pointing out there is a fundamental difference between the sexes and although these modern times might be making them inch closer the gap is by no means closed yet. And yes, I know its a cliched sentiment, but some things become cliches because they are true!

R xx

PS -
I can see how a male escort - if he were smart, attractive in personality as well as looks, and NEVER gave freebies - could probably create a little market for himself.

The bold in this quote made me laugh and laugh and laugh...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Steele on 06 January 2012, 01:50:11 pm
Men want sex - and filth and raunch and naughtiness, to experiment with new positions, new partners, new anything! These are all things that are easy to do given an hour, some privacy and a few accessories. 

Women want intimacy. It takes time, it is sincere and it cant be faked. 

Totally disagree - we're socialised to want those things, yeah, but more and more women are rejecting it. Not just in kinky/sex positive/queer/poly circles but mainstream too, there's lots of women who go out looking for one night stands in mainstream clubs.

The reasons I personally wouldn't pay for it are:

(Cisgendered) women usually don't orgasm as easily, the vulva is insanely complicated! Personally I generally can't get off without either a vibrator or a partner who knows me REALLY well, that's not an intimacy thing it's just about them learning how I like it which takes time. Doesn't have to be a romantic relationship but my best sex is always with either my husband or good friends. Unless I was willing to put a lot of money into seeing the same escort regularly I wouldn't get that, and although you can have good sex without an orgasm, it's gotta be a bit of a let down when you're out of pocket 10s or 100s of quid.

There are still more men than women who are looking for casual sex, fuckbuddy type relationships, etc. For women who want to have sex with men it's usually pretty easy to get laid if you're up for no strings attatched sex. Men, especially older men, overweight men, or socially awkward men are going to struggle as women their own age are increasingly looking to settle down and younger women brand them as 'creepy' because of the age gap or because they're not attractive (there ARE creepy men out there, but there is a feminist idea being pushed that male sexuality is inherently dangerous or icky and should be controlled and that's doing no one any favours). It's mostly men who fall into that gap that make up our client base - and because they're doing it the idea trickles down into other types of men through 'guy talk' - they learn that women are hard to get and paying for it is easier.

As gender equality improves I reckon either prostitution jobs will become open to men on a way bigger scale, or die out almost completely as people start having better, stigma-free sex without paying for it in their normal lives :P Could go either way!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 06 January 2012, 02:16:10 pm
Men, especially older men, overweight men, or socially awkward men are going to struggle as women their own age are increasingly looking to settle down and younger women brand them as 'creepy' because of the age gap or because they're not attractive (there ARE creepy men out there, but there is a feminist idea being pushed that male sexuality is inherently dangerous or icky and should be controlled and that's doing no one any favours). It's mostly men who fall into that gap that make up our client base - and because they're doing it the idea trickles down into other types of men through 'guy talk' - they learn that women are hard to get and paying for it is easier.

I agree with you completely, but please don't call that idea mentioned above a feminist one! I'm a feminist which means I care about gender equality, which means I completely agree with you that men suffer from stupid horrid old stereotypes just as much as women do. In the most modern and civilised of situations, in fact, I think men can suffer worse because while I (as a relatively priviledged young woman) can go and get a good job and all that, men are still often considered basic and animalistic and a man with any 'feminine' traits is still 'fair game' and mocked frequently. I'm a feminist! Women who dislike men are misandrists.

Interestingly, I read earlier today that about 400 years ago, it was men who were considered more in tune with their emotions and more sensitive, gentle, artistic and empathetic generally. Women were considered the animals who were controlled by hunger, thirst and lust! Also, I think in Ancient Greece there was a time when women were considered to be the ones rampaging around demanding sex constantly. While I'm sure things were still very complex in those times, it's something else which helps show modern ideas of men and women to be just as shallow and inaccurate, too.

As gender equality improves I reckon either prostitution jobs will become open to men on a way bigger scale, or die out almost completely as people start having better, stigma-free sex without paying for it in their normal lives :P Could go either way!

I just wanted to thank you here for articulating something that I was thinking but couldn't have written in such a good way. :) I think our society just needs a leeeetle bit more time to get used to the "OMG - don't judge people? Not even when they have fully consenting sex of some kind with someone else?! What an outrageous new concept!!!" thing, and then hopefully people will start to let go of many of the really uselessly retro ideas they hold about binary gender and gender-based restrictions on behaviour. Men think women are hard to get into bed because women have HAD to be hard to get into bed lest they lose the respect of everyone around them! It was only a few bloody years ago that women had no real freedom at all. But at least one amazing study (carried out in a Scandinavian country, I believe) has shown that increased social and sexual freedom for women leads to loads more sex being had by all. Jolly good, I say. Oh, and our bonobo monkey cousins are probably living examples of that, too!

Regarding paying prossies, well. It's already the case that 40-year-old+ men who are single for any reason have tons of women chasing them (and not always to 'settle down'), but if they don't want to shag women their own age then they're probably going to have to pay for it one way or another because we prize and value youth in our society so ridiculously much. That's a whole separate issue! But yes, I had a newly-single client tell me just last month that he's fighting off all the invites out to dinner and drinks from ladies who know him at work etc, and he's not good-looking in a standard way but he's a real, genuine sweetheart, so I honestly hope he meets a nice woman who treats him well.

Er, I'm rambling now, and definitely taking this thread off-topic so I might have to scold myself. ;D I do think the future of sexuality in our society is fascinating, though, and I hope to see just as many developments in the next 50 years as there were in the last 50. I'm sure there will be a whole new batch of crazy problems, too!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EvaBeeva on 08 January 2012, 12:37:05 am
I know a few women who have talked about hiring hookers, but none of them have gone through with it.

I know myself that single women and couples are not loyal clients.  They'll see you a few times and then the novelty will wear off and they're gone.  Gone to find someone who will do it for free I assume.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: pandora on 08 January 2012, 09:52:58 am
I get guys of PlentyOfFish.  You can see their pics, email and then hook up, so to speak.  Gumtree was the best until they closed it down, and hence I became an escort!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: nathaliemine on 09 January 2012, 01:35:47 pm
According to surveys, only 1 male escort out of 3 end his date with sexual relationship. What really shows us that Women want, first of all, a friend, a confident more than a sex toy right? :)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: nathaliemine on 17 January 2012, 11:42:14 am
no replies to that kind of assertion? Sad... :(
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 17 January 2012, 11:51:47 am
Well, my reaction was to think 'what survey?' and suspect it was rubbish.

The vast majority of clients for male escorts are men, and they tend to want sex as often as the male clients of female escorts...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 17 January 2012, 12:20:45 pm
Yeah - and I'd also wonder whether the fact that the client maybe didn't fancy the escort very much could factor into it. I mean, if I were a randy wealthy middle-aged housewife who wasn't getting any naughty stuff from her husband so went ahead and paid for a male escort, I'd probably not be wanting to hold his hand and fold his laundry, if you get me. I'd be paying for sex, not chatting and hugging! I mean, I suppose maybe they sometimes just book to flirt and feel desired? At the end of the day, I guess that as a woman, you just don't tend to fancy most men (if we did, all men would get laid so often that no prossies would ever have existed!) so the likelihood of you actually wanting to bonk your oiled-up bum-chinned male escort are probably low. This guy (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2413/2190001777_106317fb69.jpg), for example? Unless he was super-funny and really interesting, I'd not pay for his company (er, and I get the feeling he'd not be much interested in mine, either, so that's all fair enough!). Oh, unless Benedict Cumberbatch has a little sideline shagging for pay, obviously, in which case I am FIRST IN THE QUEUE, LADIES! *brandishes handbag*

I think I forgot my point there, if there ever was one. Mmm, Benedict. Sorry! ;D Just that I'd argue that paying for "man candy" probably doesn't mean that women want nothing but conversation and relationships, more that they might get enough of an ego boost without having to go the full-sex route. Making a man ejaculate several times isn't that much of an accomplishment for women, unless he has ED... plus society's "women wait, men approach" stereotypes still linger, so women paying for it may still be a little more hesitant than men. Just wait - in a few more decades, a study of female clients will probably reveal that they are FAR more rampant and demanding than male ones! I can just imagine the review sites now... ;D "His firm body was unfortunately at least 2% higher bodyfat than I expected, but I decided to let him off the hook since I was so horny. Now, let me tell you all about the precise placement of the vein on his peen..."
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EvaBeeva on 17 January 2012, 12:45:02 pm
In my experience female clients do not just want to chat.

Unless they are straight and there to thrill their boyfriend, they are far more keen on rampant sex than talk.  They do 'seem' to prefer more pre-chat, but that could just be because they have less experience with hiring escorts than your average bloke.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: thunder80 on 31 January 2012, 08:16:49 pm
Hi, all.

Not sure if anyone will be able to help me out but this seems like the best place I have found to ask.

I think I may have dodged a bullet so far as I saw an advert for male escorts wanted on a site called client-connections.co.uk and I thought it would be interesting to give it a go and meet new people and try new things. So, I applied and got a call back saying that if successful I would get ?350 for 4 hours of my time, ?90 an hour after that and it was up to me what happened on these dates. If I liked the girl then sex was fine and if not then I didn't have to. Sounded good to me. She took my details and then came back saying that they had a vacancy in my area and were really keen to get me on their books...then came the kicker....for them to advertise me on their site it would cost ?400 for 6 months. This rang alarm bells. Quite why I'd need to pay them to advertise me if they would get commission outside of the ?350 I don't know. Plus the fact that I didn't have the money meant that I told her to call me back in a week.

I have since researched and it seems that this company used to be called Class and Whisper and they start off with ?400 and then it's ?800 as a deposit to sign a disclaimer for an international client which I would get back etc etc. They have called me about 5 times today. I'm a bit disappointed that it is a scam because it sounded so good. Too good to be true. It was.

However, it got me excited by the prospect of doing this and so I am now wondering how I can get into being a male escort (straight, by the way) without getting scammed. Or even if there is such a think as straight male escorts. I liked the idea of being called to just spend time with women and then I decide if it goes further.

Can anyone on here give me any advice? Does such a thing exist? Is there any demand for it? How would I get into it?

Any information would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 31 January 2012, 08:23:55 pm
Hi, all.

Not sure if anyone will be able to help me out but this seems like the best place I have found to ask.

I think I may have dodged a bullet so far as I saw an advert for male escorts wanted on a site called client-connections.co.uk and I thought it would be interesting to give it a go and meet new people and try new things. So, I applied and got a call back saying that if successful I would get ?350 for 4 hours of my time, ?90 an hour after that and it was up to me what happened on these dates. If I liked the girl then sex was fine and if not then I didn't have to. Sounded good to me. She took my details and then came back saying that they had a vacancy in my area and were really keen to get me on their books...then came the kicker....for them to advertise me on their site it would cost ?400 for 6 months. This rang alarm bells. Quite why I'd need to pay them to advertise me if they would get commission outside of the ?350 I don't know. Plus the fact that I didn't have the money meant that I told her to call me back in a week.

I have since researched and it seems that this company used to be called Class and Whisper and they start off with ?400 and then it's ?800 as a deposit to sign a disclaimer for an international client which I would get back etc etc. They have called me about 5 times today. I'm a bit disappointed that it is a scam because it sounded so good. Too good to be true. It was.

However, it got me excited by the prospect of doing this and so I am now wondering how I can get into being a male escort (straight, by the way) without getting scammed. Or even if there is such a think as straight male escorts. I liked the idea of being called to just spend time with women and then I decide if it goes further.

Can anyone on here give me any advice? Does such a thing exist? Is there any demand for it? How would I get into it?

Any information would be much appreciated.

I've merged your post because all the information you need is in this thread, but in a nutshell there is no work for straight male escorts and anybody who tells you otherwise is lying and wants you to give them hundreds of pounds as you have found already. I could also have moved your post into this thread (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=385.0), but since we haven't had a straight man pitch up for over a week thinking that women will pay him to have sex with them (and prostitution is not about us 'deciding if it goes further' - we are offering sex for sale and anybody with that attitude would not last long), I'll leave it here.

If you don't believe me, read the rest while you work on your plan B. And don't give anybody any money.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 31 January 2012, 08:29:47 pm
Yep, about the best thing you can do is to keep sounding keen when they call and see how long you can keep them on the line for. You can have fun seeing what lines they come up with and if they're talking to you, they're not talking to someone else.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: BaudelaireGirl on 01 February 2012, 12:28:47 pm
Oh, unless Benedict Cumberbatch has a little sideline shagging for pay, obviously, in which case I am FIRST IN THE QUEUE, LADIES! *brandishes handbag*

*runs out to buy bigger handbag*
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: MissThang on 01 February 2012, 02:51:27 pm
*buys tiny little handbag, more of a change purse, really* - I googled him, and I am not feeling it! Cam Gigandet is my choice out of the 'hot men with funny names' category  ;D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Luvmylips on 18 February 2012, 11:22:04 am


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2102640/I-know-arent-going-I-dont-want-How-women-want-strings-attached-sex-fuelling-boom-gigolo-services.html


Guess these American women are fuelling a new market in the USA - can't see this taking off in the UK though.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Cuchulainn on 05 March 2012, 10:25:47 pm
Hi everyone,
I'm a straight male university student, 21 years old, and I was thinking of doing some escorting after being told by many people that it would be profitable for me. I've tried finding more info online for my particular category, but without much luck. This site seems like the best resource for info, and so I was wondering if anyone here could tell me whether it's realistic to do what I'm thinking of.

I'm in a loving relationship with my girlfriend, and we've talked about this, but because of her I wouldn't be offering any sex. I would offer charming companionship for dinner dates or social functions. I'm continental, quite good looking (although not really ripped or anything), witty and polite. Is there any market for that? Are there enough lonely women who'd pay for a date like that?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: pandora on 05 March 2012, 10:30:31 pm
Hi everyone,
I'm a straight male university student, 21 years old, and I was thinking of doing some escorting after being told by many people that it would be profitable for me. I've tried finding more info online for my particular category, but without much luck. This site seems like the best resource for info, and so I was wondering if anyone here could tell me whether it's realistic to do what I'm thinking of.

I'm in a loving relationship with my girlfriend, and we've talked about this, but because of her I wouldn't be offering any sex. I would offer charming companionship for dinner dates or social functions. I'm continental, quite good looking (although not really ripped or anything), witty and polite. Is there any market for that? Are there enough lonely women who'd pay for a date like that?

Strangely none.  Read the thread above and do not give up your day job.

There is no work for female escorts, let alone male. It's gay for pay or nothing.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 05 March 2012, 10:36:34 pm
I've merged your post with the usual thread, as you haven't yet mentioned contacting any of the myriad scam agencies who will tell that of course there's loads of work for straight men and social only 'escorts', just as soon as you pay a couple of hundred notes into their bank account. The very length of it should speak for itself, and reading it will answer your question many times over but since it's been a few days since the last one, I'll recap anyway.

I'm a straight male university student, 21 years old, and I was thinking of doing some escorting after being told by many people that it would be profitable for me. I've tried finding more info online for my particular category, but without much luck. This site seems like the best resource for info, and so I was wondering if anyone here could tell me whether it's realistic to do what I'm thinking of.

I don't know who these 'many' people are, but they obviously know nothing whatsoever about the industry (and are any of them earning big bucks doing it themselves? No, thought not). The market for straight men wanting female clients is so miniscule it is virtually non-existent, and if you're not prepared to provide sexual services to men, there's nothing we (who do exactly that every working day) or anybody else can do to get you work short of looking for a lamp with a genie in it.


I'm in a loving relationship with my girlfriend, and we've talked about this, but because of her I wouldn't be offering any sex. I would offer charming companionship for dinner dates or social functions. I'm continental, quite good looking (although not really ripped or anything), witty and polite. Is there any market for that? Are there enough lonely women who'd pay for a date like that?

No, and no. As above, read the rest of this thread. Even if you were offering sex, the people interested in it would not be women, lonely or otherwise - people (male or female) don't pay total strangers to go out for dinner with them - why would they, when they can pay somebody who they'll get some action with later on?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Cuchulainn on 05 March 2012, 10:45:14 pm
I've merged your post with the usual thread, as you haven't yet mentioned contacting any of the myriad scam agencies who will tell that of course there's loads of work for straight men and social only 'escorts', just as soon as you pay a couple of hundred notes into their bank account. The very length of it should speak for itself, and reading it will answer your question many times over but since it's been a few days since the last one, I'll recap anyway.

I'm a straight male university student, 21 years old, and I was thinking of doing some escorting after being told by many people that it would be profitable for me. I've tried finding more info online for my particular category, but without much luck. This site seems like the best resource for info, and so I was wondering if anyone here could tell me whether it's realistic to do what I'm thinking of.

I don't know who these 'many' people are, but they obviously know nothing whatsoever about the industry (and are any of them earning big bucks doing it themselves? No, thought not). The market for straight men wanting female clients is so miniscule it is virtually non-existent, and if you're not prepared to provide sexual services to men, there's nothing we (who do exactly that every working day) or anybody else can do to get you work short of looking for a lamp with a genie in it.


I'm in a loving relationship with my girlfriend, and we've talked about this, but because of her I wouldn't be offering any sex. I would offer charming companionship for dinner dates or social functions. I'm continental, quite good looking (although not really ripped or anything), witty and polite. Is there any market for that? Are there enough lonely women who'd pay for a date like that?

No, and no. As above, read the rest of this thread. Even if you were offering sex, the people interested in it would not be women, lonely or otherwise - people (male or female) don't pay total strangers to go out for dinner with them - why would they, when they can pay somebody who they'll get some action with later on?

I work in a pub and many of our somewhat elderly female regulars have expressed a certain interest, shall we say. In any case, I'm not really surprised, and you've saved me from spending more hours trudging through google dismissing phony agencies. Cheers!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 05 March 2012, 11:12:39 pm
I used to work in a pub and I put up with that shit morning, noon and night but I have not encountered a single one of my former irritants since I set a price, funnily enough. And I'm female and offering sex.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 05 March 2012, 11:17:08 pm
Most people in pubs talk a lot of nothing much, well nothing that means anything. Goes to show people believe such tosh. ::)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Cuchulainn on 05 March 2012, 11:59:07 pm
Sometimes I get mistaken for Andy Carroll in pubs. I don't have the heart to tell these poor Scousers that I'm just a nobody.

Anyway, I read through half of the thread, and feel like a right pillock for even thinking it might be possible. I may have overestimated women's lib to a certain degree, but I figured that what's to stop women from wanting discretion? I do apologize for contributing to your frustration with us heads-up-our-arse boys. In hindsight it does seem a bit too self-confident, but there's nae harm in thinking I'm desirable now, is there.

Interesting forum, though, it's an insightful perspective on a social area often overlooked and probably heavily mis-portrayed in media and whatnot. Mind if I stick around?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 06 March 2012, 12:12:07 am
Mind if I stick around?

Well there's nothing to stop you lurking and reading the threads as many other people do - it's a public forum and there's nothing you can't see without logging in. However, the forum itself is strictly sex worker only, so I'm afraid you're not permitted to post - if you read the Forum Guidelines at the top of this section you will see that we are strict about this out of necessity. This is our space, and whilst we don't mind helping someone avoid a scam (as in this thread and the scam agency one) or just making a twat of himself, there's really no reason for you to be here.

If you want to interact with prostitutes and punters, there are mixed boards you can join who welcome outsiders - try Punternet for a busy one. They even put up with Mumsnetters.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 06 March 2012, 12:44:46 am
Off topic posts removed. Anybody who wants to bicker about something that is nothing to do with the thread subject is free to do so by PM, provided they do it in a civilised way as per the rules.

Cuchulainn, regarding your hanging about on the forum; we do not generally need to delete accounts or restrict posting as most people appreciate that this is not a place for them and posting by non sex workers is unwelcome after they have been told this once. In the event that this does not apply in your case, rest assured that I will achieve the second by doing the first.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: george on 13 March 2012, 04:29:08 pm
First of all, hello to everyone.

This is George, and after having read articles on the site and the boards, I decided to come out of my shady corner and post something. I hope I am not breaking any rules (I've read them, I swear, but something might have escaped my attention...).

As you might have noticed from the topic, yes this is another hopeless male guy wanting to give escorting a go.
Long story short, whereas I just completed my 2nd university degree while working 40 hours a week for minimal wage (potwash, chef, waiter, night shift guard, and so on...) to pay for them, I recently was offered a place in a Master's programme at a prestigious London university. Despite being very happy about it, I have to face the steep fees that they are going to charge me (on top of the cost of living in London, rent and all), plus the increased effort that it will required, compared to a BA degree.

Sorry about sharing the story of my life, but the point is, I need any possible source of extra income: so despite having read this (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=506.0) and the SW5 article, I want to give this a try. Worst case scenario, I won't get any calls/work, but won't be in any worse a predicament as I am now. I am 30, lean/athletic, and good looking; I also am funny and a nice person overall, and a hard worker. I will be moving back to London this summer. I know the competition is killer but I think I could be up to the role. Again, I think it's worth a shot.

Being entirely new to the "scene" (both as a worker and as a "customer"), I would rather sign up with an agency, and see what happens (probably just nothing). Any of you girls work for one which has some male workers, or know one, and could PM/email me? Tips and pointers welcome too.

Thanks to everyone in advance for reading and or replying to this.

Cheers, G.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 13 March 2012, 04:41:34 pm
*sighs*

George, I don't know how long that took you, but that's a little bit of your life you'll never get back. You could have hung on to it if you'd just taken a few minutes and read the rest of this thread (I'm on my phone so apologies if this is what your post links to, but if you have already done so and still posted the above because you think that it'll be different for you for whatever reason then all I can say is you're the stuff that scammers dream about).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: george on 13 March 2012, 04:49:04 pm
*sighs*

George, I don't know how long that took you, but that's a little bit of your life you'll never get back. You could have hung on to it if you'd just taken a few minutes and read the rest of this thread (I'm on my phone so apologies if this is what your post links to, but if you have already done so and still posted the above because you think that it'll be different for you for whatever reason then all I can say is you're the stuff that scammers dream about).

Thanks for moving post into adequate thread.

I guess that really (really) answers it. My apologies for wasting everyone's time.


Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Rob jones on 24 March 2012, 12:29:49 pm
hi I'm new to this business and just want to get noticed. i was just wondering if anyone has advice from when they were starting up?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: SophiaPrice1 on 24 March 2012, 12:32:26 pm
If you read all the main articles on the main bit of SAAFE that will help point you in the right direction. Tons of advice ranging from advertising yourself to paying your taxes.

Have you any idea of how you would like to market yourself?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 24 March 2012, 01:29:10 pm
If you read all the main articles on the main bit of SAAFE that will help point you in the right direction. Tons of advice ranging from advertising yourself to paying your taxes.

Have you any idea of how you would like to market yourself?

Seconded. This is of course assuming you are a man wishing to offer services to other men, otherwise everything you need to know is here (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=506.0).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Rob jones on 24 March 2012, 01:34:32 pm
Thanks. no not offering my services to other men:-* just the ladies:-)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 24 March 2012, 01:40:57 pm
Then read the rest of this thread - I've merged your posts since it's where they belong. And if you haven't handed any money over to anybody who has lied to you that there is work for straight male escorts, congratulate yourself.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: SophiaPrice1 on 25 March 2012, 11:55:51 am
I guess reading and or research isn't something many men partake in. Just "I'm fit, I'll shag women for money and make loads of coin, easy".

*sigh*
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: theblondemyth on 12 April 2012, 10:14:35 pm
Hi ladies
Just logged on and am new here and to escorting I guess
Any advice on starting out ? And not sure this is place to ask
But if you don't ask you don't get right ? Ha ha ha
Any advice would be appreciated
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: River on 14 April 2012, 04:15:40 pm
Get used to the idea of sucking a lot of willies.
And zero female clients.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: theblondemyth on 14 April 2012, 05:15:58 pm
Well I've received posative feedback on here from fellow sex
Workers ! Excuse the sarcasm. Apparently this is a female only
Site am I'm not welcome ! I have escorted previously and thought
This site would be the place to meet others who do the same
But instead face discrimination for posting ! Typical seems sex workers
Are eachothers worst enemy when it comes to competition..
Which is not support just senseless predujuce .
And appears someone's already stolen my name obviously
A fake site fronting as supportive like so many round at present.
Threatening ppl to leave or there will be consequences is out
Of order and does not give genuine sex. Workers some of whom
I have met and worked with a good reputation or put them in
A good light . Especially since we / they fight so hard for equlity etc
This is shameful behaviour !
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 14 April 2012, 05:31:51 pm
This forum is most certainly not female-only, and we have had several regular male posters over the years although there aren't many currently. The forum is, however, sex worker only and whilst the whole site is geared towards newbies, there is a difference between people who have a chance of starting up successfully and getting actual clients, and the optimists who stick up an Adultwork profile hoping that they'll get lucky, and the years of industry experience as well as the huge sum of knowledge that members of this board have in combination has taught us many times over that men hoping to get female clients fall firmly into the second category.

If you wish to discuss matters which are not on topic for this thread, you will do so privately. And please spare us the pompous chest beating about solidarity and rights - your post above makes it clear that you are new and judging by your contributions so far, what you know about sex worker's rights and the fight for equality I suspect could be written on the back of a condom packet.



EDIT: Since it appears that the previous poster has thrown down his toys and flounced off with his panties in a knot (although not before sending me an equally weirdly formatted unintelligable but-shouty PM), it's worth pointing out that not everybody who makes contact via the forum is what they seem. Anybody intending to communicate off the forum with another anonymous poster here would do well to keep it to PMs (which can be controlled/ignored to some degree) until they are confident about passing on things like phone numbers, even work ones.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: River on 14 April 2012, 05:52:49 pm
Well I've received posative feedback on here from fellow sex
Workers ! Excuse the sarcasm. Apparently this is a female only Site
am I'm not welcome !
I apologise for my post causing angst; this was not my intent.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: jace1 on 07 May 2012, 09:57:56 pm
Good evening everybody,

After much looking on this messageboard I finally decided to take the plunge and register (which is a good thing  ;D)

I'm new to this scene.

I've put myself on AW since Saturday i've had 50 views which I guess is not too bad, I feel I am advertising the wrong thing as I am wanting to provide a non sexual service but i'd be tempted to go into a sexual escort. I'm basically 20 years old wanting to make an extra few pounds in life like a lot of people.

I live in Northern Ireland and I find it very hard to actually find a genuine website, my parents or friends have no clue that I am doing this in my spare time.

I'm asking for helpful tips or anything which would be really great! and even if there is someone in Northern Ireland I could email etc  to help me break into this.

Thanks,

Jace :)

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 07 May 2012, 10:02:21 pm
Jace, you are aware that the only way you will make any money is by offering sexual services to men, aren't you? There is no market for 'social only' or straight male escorting anywhere and your location really won't make any difference to that. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying and likely to want you to give them money (which is why they are lying).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: divine_madonna on 07 May 2012, 10:05:34 pm
Hi welcome  :)

I'm sure someone will be along soon enough to point you in the direction for the SME myth thread...one thing strikes me about your post:

Quote
I'm basically 20 years old wanting to make an extra few pounds in life like a lot of people.

Which I interpret as: "for doing feck all really"

When there are plenty of others around who offer a real service, how do you think this will help you stand out or be successful?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 07 May 2012, 10:17:54 pm
I'm sure someone will be along soon enough to point you in the direction for the SME myth thread...

He hasn't said he's straight, so far at least. The bit about non-sex escorting and not being able to find genuine sites would suggest it, admittedly, but I won't merge his posts until we're clear. There'll be as many gay/straight-men-who-have-occasional-sex-with-other-men in NI as anywhere else, and if he's anywhere near Belfast there's probably loads.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: jace1 on 07 May 2012, 10:37:07 pm
Hi everyone,

Thanks for the replies.

I am straight, the reason why I choose non sexual was to see how it goes first of all not to just jump straight in head first if that makes sense.

Your right that I do nothing, I was made redunant from my job just doing casual work hedge cutting etc.

Hope I dont come across as a mong  :)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 07 May 2012, 10:42:27 pm
And *merge*

The best thing I can suggest you do if you don't believe us is read the rest of this thread. Doing so for ten minutes will earn you as much money as you would in a month of being a straight male escort, and ditto a non-sexual escort - none, in other words.

We're not trying to be harsh on you personally, but there are a lot of people 'recruiting' out there who will tell you otherwise and it's important you know not to believe them. And I think what Danae means is that working as a prostitute is probably far harder work than you thought, just in case you do decide to go the gay-for-pay route.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: jace1 on 07 May 2012, 10:46:46 pm
Thanks,

I'll take a look  :)

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 07 May 2012, 11:01:44 pm
Hi everyone,

Thanks for the replies.

I am straight, the reason why I choose non sexual was to see how it goes first of all not to just jump straight in head first if that makes sense.

Your right that I do nothing, I was made redunant from my job just doing casual work hedge cutting etc.

Hope I dont come across as a mong  :)

Hmmm, of all the times I've been asked by males (sometimes clients even) how to get into male escorting, no-one has ever come back to tell me they (a) got anywhere with it, or (b) have given up their day job.

Last guy has had to revert to a job really unsuitable for him, and one before that well last time I looked he'd reduced his rates to offering freebies.

Regards Adultwork a rippling young man once asked me to take a look at his profile, largest startling thing about it was that his views were around 10% of those a straight female in his area would receive in the same timespan he'd been online (about 3 years I seem to recall), and in that time he'd gathered substantial feedback from ladies he'd been hiring - so I guessed many of those 10% views were females he himself had been hiring.

Your OP states you've been reading the site, I think you've missed a very important section!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: divine_madonna on 07 May 2012, 11:12:57 pm
And I think what Danae means is that working as a prostitute is probably far harder work than you thought, just in case you do decide to go the gay-for-pay route.

Basically yeah, too many people (not just male escorts), seem to think that escorting is a piece of piss and a license to print money. It?s definitely not the first and the latter can only be achieved by having brains and putting in a LOT of hard work. I didn?t mean to come across as harsh, I just find such naive views a bit insulting. Anyway best of luck x 
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: jace1 on 07 May 2012, 11:32:07 pm
And I think what Danae means is that working as a prostitute is probably far harder work than you thought, just in case you do decide to go the gay-for-pay route.

Basically yeah, too many people (not just male escorts), seem to think that escorting is a piece of piss and a license to print money. It?s definitely not the first and the latter can only be achieved by having brains and putting in a LOT of hard work. I didn?t mean to come across as harsh, I just find such naive views a bit insulting. Anyway best of luck x

I understand what you mean, I read about advertising websites looking money and that you shouldn't have to pay money. I put a few searches into the bogus ones.

Thanks for your fast replies it has been helpful.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: concierge4women on 20 June 2012, 12:38:53 pm

I am posting this information for my help and guidance. As I am new to this field I can really use your expertise. I am looking for the best way to advertise myself in order to get clients. I want to be a male escort and do not know where to start. I don't know whether to make a web site, put an advert in women newspaper or anyother way.

If to make a web site who is the best person or web site to contact and same for advert which magazines are best for maximum exposure. As I have not started this work I tend to keep these costs down if possible.

As you are here to guide me I will give you as much information as possible. As far as fee is concerned I don't tend to charge the clients at all and it is up to the client therefore like to keep the initial cost down if possible.

Any more information please let me know and guide me to your level best.

 

 

Thanking you, I remain.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 20 June 2012, 01:36:36 pm
Hi C4W,

I've merged your post with this thread because it sounds like you're a man trying to get into "straight male escorting".

If you read this thread from the beginning, you'll see that:

1) There is an absolutely minuscule market for straight male escorts. Most male escorts service men in order to make a living; very few women pay for sex (and most of those are hiring a female escort to please their male partner anyway) so if you want to make money, you will need to either service men or look into a different job.

2) There are a LOT of scam agencies that target naive sillies who think that they are Mr Studly and that hundreds of women would fling cash their way in exchange for exciting opportunity to fellate a strange man (something that millions of women around the world actually get paid to do).

3) These scam agencies will always tell you that they have at least one female client waiting for you as soon as you pay their fee. But when you pay their fee, they simply disappear. This is because there are NO lady clients - or, if there are, they aren't using shady scammy fake agency websites to find their gigolos. Perhaps consider setting yourself up independently if you want to try to attract one or two female clients per year. You'll have to invest more money into getting yourself a slick website, professional photos and loads of exposure marketing-wise than you'll actually earn from those lady clients, I'm afraid.

I actually read an article (http://www.xojane.com/sex/its-so-easy-have-sex-craigslist) yesterday which highlights why women seeking casual sex are pretty much never paying for it, in quite a straight-forward way.

If you're determined to try to set yourself up as a straight male escort despite all the overwhelming evidence that shows it's a terrible idea, check out our main SAAFE site (http://www.saafe.info/) for all sorts of handy information. I'm afraid, however, that these forums are for sex workers who service a predominantly male clientele so you may only post in this thread.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Ramo on 11 July 2012, 11:07:21 am
Hi I was hoping people can help me out.
I am looking to start to do escorting but do not seem to be having much luck.

I've looked on internet sites and feel alot are fraud as all ask for money up front for fees etc. I on't mind paying but only if I get work out of it.

Can someone advise me where to start and what agencies are recommended and whats ones to stay away from.

Regards
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Lady_Lust_XXX on 11 July 2012, 11:10:44 am
I really don't know anything about agencies - esp for guys - but if you use the 'search' button up on the right corner you should find quite a few scam agencies.

And you are right.  Any agency that asks for money up front is a scammer.

Good Luck.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Dani on 11 July 2012, 11:21:21 am
Hi I was hoping people can help me out.
I am looking to start to do escorting but do not seem to be having much luck.

I've looked on internet sites and feel alot are fraud as all ask for money up front for fees etc. I on't mind paying but only if I get work out of it.

Can someone advise me where to start and what agencies are recommended and whats ones to stay away from.

Regards

If you are gay or bisexual then just chuck a profile on AW but set reasonable rates similar to other gay men in your area and ignore the next bit. 
If you are straight then OMG can you not read???  This whole thread is about how there is NO work for straight male escorts at all.  Women do not need to pay for sex as if we are in desperate need we can walk into any bar and either pull or just ask if anyone fancies NSA sex and we would have a queue. 
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 11 July 2012, 11:41:35 am
Hi I was hoping people can help me out.
I am looking to start to do escorting but do not seem to be having much luck.

I've looked on internet sites and feel alot are fraud as all ask for money up front for fees etc. I on't mind paying but only if I get work out of it.

Can someone advise me where to start and what agencies are recommended and whats ones to stay away from.

Regards

If you are gay or bisexual then just chuck a profile on AW but set reasonable rates similar to other gay men in your area and ignore the next bit. 
If you are straight then OMG can you not read???  This whole thread is about how there is NO work for straight male escorts at all.  Women do not need to pay for sex as if we are in desperate need we can walk into any bar and either pull or just ask if anyone fancies NSA sex and we would have a queue.

To be fair to the bloke, it was originally a new thread but I merged it as soon as I saw the post - I think it's safe to say that anybody who has found lots of scam agencies in their quest is liable to be straight, plus I'm on my phone. I just didn't post because I feared losing the will to live.

So he probably can read, he just can't use a forum Search function  :).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Dani on 11 July 2012, 11:58:01 am
My apologies to the poster as I thought he had posted in this thread.

I just wish guys would read the forum first or at least search it as they must know they are not the first one to come up with this idea.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 11 July 2012, 12:08:27 pm
This thread is on the first page of Google for 'straight male escort' too. Unfortunately it isn't right at the very top in massive letters with a big arrow pointing to it, thus it still gets missed.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Ramo on 13 July 2012, 05:21:43 pm
I did try and look for information in the search engine about this agency but had no joy.

The agency is: http://www.diamonduk.info/home.html

I am wondering if anyone has worked for this agency and whether its been successful for them.

I filled out app online, and they got in contact with me.  Wanted me to part with a large sum of money, of course I'm not stupid and wouldn't part with money first off.  For one I haven't got it and 2- doing this work is the reason for me to up my revenue.  I did say this and the guy said I would do really well.

Today he has called me stating he put forward my profile on the web site- although I've not paid any fees and has had 4 interest.  He's offered me a deal that if I proceed then I can paid the yearly prescription over 3 months out of the wages that I get, but still would have to pay up the first part upfront to get going.  I'm thinking maybe a scam.

But if people have been successful working for this agency then I don't mind going ahead. - so any information would be fab.

regards

Ramo
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Mellow on 13 July 2012, 05:25:04 pm
ANY agency asking for money upfront is going to be a scam.   If you pop 'scam agencies' into the search tool here you will find lots of information about this subject.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: janitor on 13 July 2012, 05:42:31 pm
Your big head is telling you its a scam and your heart doesn't want to believe it.

Have a long slow read of this thread http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=506.0
then have a rethink of a part time income as shagging Anne Wydecombe will have to remain a dream.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Ramo on 13 July 2012, 09:16:43 pm
I've read the topic - ready found it no help!!

I am only asking if this agency is legitimate and if anyone have worked for them, not stupid common sense response.

If any of you two are escorts, how did you get started?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: janitor on 13 July 2012, 09:23:57 pm
In what way no help?

I assume from your email address your male? if so that thread will tell you many times over:
1 there is no work for male escorts
2 any agency asking for money up front is a scam

Now despite both of those things being covered many times your post here suggests your ignoring the facts. again you ask if its legitimate. So no matter how many times you read in that thread money first=scam you seem to want to be told different.

So just for you, if it helps its a legitimate scam agency, does that answer you?

I got started by sucking willies for cash by advertising myself in newspapers.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 13 July 2012, 09:27:53 pm
Yep, see the first sentence of Mellow's reply (and it's repeated numerous times here: http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=385.0 (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=385.0)). If they weren't a scam, they'd do what every other legitimate agency does and make their money solely from finding you work, not having you pay them in the hope that they can deliver the dream they're promising.

It is just about possible someone has found work via this bunch - you can actually see the people who've been scammed, whereas with some scams they end up advertising to themselves - but the more male they are and the less they're prepared to have male clients, the less likely it is.

But what they're currently offering is a cut price scamming.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Ramo on 13 July 2012, 09:45:11 pm
Thank you for th reply - it does helps.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 13 July 2012, 09:58:36 pm
If you are determined to try, there are a variety of places you can advertise for free (but a lot of men already are) and what janitor says isn't quite right - there's work for male escorts prepared to do men.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: jaijai on 21 July 2012, 01:39:23 am
ok..   HI ALL :)

so.. my names Jai.. 24..m..coventry

i have never done anything like this.. EVER!
so living a bit wild here..

anywho.. iv got the charm, banter.. apparntly the looks * done a little modelling * but i aint no model!!!
extremly confident! ( due to my nature of work )

and i wanted to try my hand at male modelling
Cavendish Knights was my first port of call..

any tips on male escorting.. anyone would care to share..
it would be much appreciated :)

Jai x
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: ThreeFaces on 21 July 2012, 02:09:31 am
Hi Jai,

Welcome to Saafe!You haven't said if you're looking to be a straight male escort or if you're a gay male escort.

If you're straight I'd suggest you read this thread, and don't hand over any money to any agencies...women don't tend to pay for sex (sorry!):

http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=506.msg82273#msg82273

If you're gay, then there's pay - and if you search the forum (box in top right corner) and use the main site there's loadsa tips on advertising, safety etc etc. The articles on the main site are really well done, and come from people who have years of experience who have taken the time to share their knowledge, so have a read (make tea, there's frickin loads of stuff).

Best of luck xx
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: jaijai on 21 July 2012, 02:26:57 am
ow yeah! ha!!

Straight male escort of course...
if i get to sleep with clients Bonus!!
if not no biggie.. ( i have a booty call ) ha..

ahh looked at that page prior to making a post!
informative stuff

cavendish knights so far looks like its capaeable of not being a scam..
i have applied..
i recieved an email back..

asking to send a few additional pics and a few setances about me..
should hear back by monday but they seemed happy!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: ThreeFaces on 21 July 2012, 02:46:05 am
Ok there's also this topic where Cavendish Knights are mentioned as being a scam:

http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=926.0

Really I don't think you'll make any money being a straight escort, and there's no market for 'companionship only' escorts - if there was I don't think anyone on this forum would be putting dicks in their mouths when they could  make the same amount just chatting to men over tea..

Also this thread:

http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=385.0

I'm not trying to be mean, or trying to burst your bubble, I'm just trying to save you time and possibly money. The only sure way to make money in the escorting biz is to embrace the penis  ;D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 21 July 2012, 02:47:35 am
Of course they're happy: they've found another victim.

CK are not as expensive a scam as some of the others, but you know the money that they have (or will soon) asked for? Before you've had a client? If you took it out of your wallet and burnt it, you'd get the same number of clients (nil) but you'd get to watch the pretty flames and feel a bit warmer.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: cheekychap87 on 05 October 2012, 06:50:25 pm
Hi all,

I'm a straight male looking to earn extra money via providing escorting services.

I've been contacted by Lunabella after responding to an advert on-line. Have spoken to a very charming lady who has run through the usual registration details, but is asking for ?290 for advertising and registration for 3 months on their website. I've obviously queried this as l'm always sceptical about paying anything upfront without any guarantees...
Payment would have to be made via a bank transfer and is needed to cover me with public liability insurance.
 
I have told them that l will think about it over the weekend before making any commitment. Whilst they say that l will have two bookings a week and my first within 5-7 days l am quite conscious that this is a scam, and need to be sure before making any form of payment to them..... :FF  ???

Please could someone give me some advice as to whether http://www.lunabella.co.uk/ is genuine and/or what to do?

Look forward to any help or advice.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 05 October 2012, 06:54:56 pm
No they are not, and nor is anybody else who a: claims there is work/a market for straight male escorts, or b: asks you to give them money before you have earned any doing work they have found for you.

I have merged your post with the appropriate thread - please read it, and as ever, start thinking about your Plan B.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 05 October 2012, 07:18:26 pm
I wonder why they say it's for three months rather than a year? Only the terminally gullible are going to pay them again after they've had zero real bookings.

Ahhh :)

(As a datapoint of the real costs of public liability insurance, the last time I needed to buy some, getting it for a long weekend get-together of 300 bisexual people and their friends cost just over a hundred quid. It's fair to say that some horizontal networking was going on too... About the only thing the insurance wouldn't cover was having someone with a flamethrower or a bouncy castle!)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: decisions878 on 07 October 2012, 01:48:36 pm
Hi,

I am looking to work for a male escorting agency. I live in Gloucestershire, but am sick of being conned and want a legitimate agency that l can work through.

Could someone please recommend a few please. I have heard of Lunabella, are they legitimate and reliable?

Look forward to any advice and help.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: meetingdiversity on 07 October 2012, 02:02:54 pm
Sure if you google.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: janitor on 07 October 2012, 02:04:51 pm
Without wishing to sound rude, when you found us, if you had used the search tool, or even looked further down the first page of posts  you would have found this http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=506.0

and this http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=11482.0

You would also have seen we do not recommend any agency due to the fact they are illegal operations.

Third, if you think there is still work despite the link above, looking at that lunabella site, d you see any way to view or contact any escorts beyond the featured ones? Ask yourself why not, and keep that thought with you when trawling the man many scam agencies you will come across.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Little_Miss_Misanthropy on 07 October 2012, 02:05:01 pm
Hello,

If you're straight then I'm sorry to break it to you; but women don't pay for sex. Please see this thread: http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=506.msg92424#msg92424

Please don't hand over any money to any agencies, as you won't get ANY work...

If you're a gay male escort...then someone will be along to help you, as I haven't a clue where you should be advertising!

There's a search box in the top right hand corner that will give you links to threads related to what you're searching for.

Good luck  ;D.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: decisions878 on 07 October 2012, 03:02:31 pm
I appreciate that women are unlikely to pay for sexual liaison's. I do know that certain women who travel and extremely busy do look for companions to go to events with and provide companionship.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 07 October 2012, 03:32:48 pm
I appreciate that women are unlikely to pay for sexual liaison's. I do know that certain women who travel and extremely busy do look for companions to go to events with and provide companionship.

You 'know' this, do you? How? As in, based upon what factual evidence?

Even if there are 'certain' women who do this, they will be extremely few and far between. So if there are, say, ten of these women in the entire country who do this maybe three or four times a year each that's a potential forty bookings which might earn you 50-100 quid each if you're lucky, and that's before you've taken off your overheads.

That's also assuming that you actually get each and every one of these potential bookings over the tens of thousands of other hopefuls, some of whom have contributed to the rest of this thread - hardly great odds. I'd maybe hang back from Dragons Den for the time being.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Friday on 07 October 2012, 05:26:17 pm
I do know that certain women who travel and extremely busy do look for companions to go to events with and provide companionship.

You know this? Have you read this thread?!?!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: john0087 on 02 November 2012, 08:33:11 pm
hi m john From Delhi, India..... i wanna searching the gigolo work...if u have any information of ths work so plzz replyy me
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 02 November 2012, 11:08:13 pm
Your post has been moved here. Read it: there's work for male escorts/gigolos, but virtually all of it is from male clients.

I would be very surprised if the situation isn't the same in India.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: galwaymet on 23 January 2013, 01:32:17 am
Can anyone please tell me what the good agencies are in London for straight male escorting , do not need the scammers .
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 23 January 2013, 02:02:36 am
Can anyone please tell me what the good agencies are in London for straight male escorting , do not need the scammers .

No one can, sorry - there aren't any. For a business to work there has to be a market for what it's selling and unless you're prepared to do men, there isn't one.

Have a read through the rest of this thread to find out why, congratulate yourself for not giving anyone any money, and as ever, start working on your Plan B.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: KinkyVixen on 23 January 2013, 09:27:25 pm
A guy Ive met a few times over the years ( punter) rang me the other day . He has been made redundant and can i give him any advice on setting himself up on AW.

Told him "i know this isn't what you want to hear ...................but  to forget it and to read saafe forum  , re- straight male escort myth ". He took the advice well and said he'd look for new job instead.

There still seems to be a lot of guys in the dark about this , when a quick look at the other male escorts on AW would tell them that these guys never get work ( even the  super fit ones ) ......Even the ones giving it for free don't get "work" FFS !!!

The odd thing is since the 1st ( nice and decent ) guy contacted me Ive had a load of people asking the same ,  including some randoms that Ive never met. These people are too lazy  do the research and they get attitude when you dont give them free "advice" in my precious down time ( for free)

 One of  these randoms got very nasty by text message ( at least the others had the gumption to ring )  . He had texted asking   " him I'm setting up as a bi male escort ,  u gonna  gimme sum  clients numbers then n u can tell them u got a male to work with  "   

 ( er , hang on a min arrogant prick , i dont want a male partner and if i did id pick one myself , thanks )

When i told him to "dont want a male partner , sorry , do your own research as its not the done thing to try blag work off other escorts and  no-one is going to give out numbers as  its not discreet "  , he got very nasty

 Ended up having to threaten him with passing texts to police he got that bad , bombarding me with death threats all night and calling me a fat ugly old slag ( strange he wanted to work with this ugly old slag thou :) )

 And this nutcase  wanker actually  thinks women are gonna pay him and entrust their safety to him ........ Oh dear ! 

( in fact he is going on warnings n wasters  board as he's quite disturbed )
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: maxeverard on 08 March 2013, 04:46:47 pm
Hi There

Im looking at starting up as an escort and am researching it at the minute and have a number of questions.  Firstly is Cavendish Knights Genuine and what other sites would be decent to advertise on.

Thanks

Max
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: pandora on 08 March 2013, 04:53:07 pm
Doubt it is.

Are you gay or agy for pay? If not check out the multiple pages of Male escort myth thread and don't give up your day job.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: ParisB on 08 March 2013, 04:58:35 pm
are you
1 a straight man 
2 gay man 
3 bisexual man

because  unless you are 2 or 3   there really truly isn't a market for the straight male escort  - no matter what people tell you  or you believe to true 
slightly more of a market for bisexual men and more for gay men   

and with regards to what you posted about Cavendish Knights i have no idea if they are genuine or not but if they are asking for money from you to list you then they are 101 percent going to rip you off
There is no or very very little money in being a straight male escort although many men would love to the job which is what agencies and directories bank on 

Normally works along the line of this

you send of your pictures details and sign up maybe pay a small admin fee 
they contact you and say that they have xxx women who want to see you and that they have potential bookings for you this weekend
But until you pay there joining fee of xxxx pounds they cant list you so you cant get the booking
so you pay your hard earned cash over and  all of a sudden the ladies that want to see you are no longer availble

disclaimer  i don't know if cavendish knights work like this but as they don't charge a fee from the clients its got to be from you the escort but more likely it will be some sort of joining fee
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: ParisB on 08 March 2013, 05:01:33 pm
 what Pandora said  - don't give up your day job

and defiantly don't hand over any money, no matter what they say /promise.    Even if they promise you Beyonce is in london without Mr Carter and needs a male escort right now as long as you can pay the joining fee  -   it will be a lie and a big one cos Beyonce isn't in london till April ;D 
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: maxeverard on 08 March 2013, 05:04:12 pm
awesome thanks for that, i thought as much

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: ParisB on 08 March 2013, 05:08:19 pm
awesome thanks for that, i thought as much


What were they asking in terms of fees if you don't mind me asking
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: ana30 on 08 March 2013, 05:08:39 pm
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=408.0

Here's your answer Max.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 08 March 2013, 05:22:37 pm
Are you gay or agy for pay? If not check out the multiple pages of Male escort myth thread and don't give up your day job.

And here it is (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=506.0) :). I won't merge this one yet since the OP hasn't actually answered the question, even though if he's looking at dreck like Cavendish Knights there's unlikely to be much margin for error.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: maxeverard on 08 March 2013, 05:32:21 pm
they were looking for ?25
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 08 March 2013, 05:35:54 pm
they were looking for ?25

Well given that that's potentially a straight male escort's annual income (if he was very successful, anyway), I'd tell them to fuck right off politely decline. And if you still want to be a prossie, get practicing your blow jobs :).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 08 March 2013, 05:59:40 pm
What ?25 one off or per month or year or what?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 08 March 2013, 06:42:50 pm
Cavendish Knights is one of the cheaper scams - there are places that want many hundreds of quid upfront and even then don't let people see profiles - and it's changed hands since I was first very rude about it, but we'd still call it a scam.

Have a look at how many men there are on AdultWork hoping for female clients, then either give up or have a big think about how to do it. Hint: it won't be by paying a scam agency or sticking a picture of your knob on AW, and unless you do men, it will never replace the day job.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: gman1986 on 10 March 2013, 07:48:39 pm
hello i have been looking at trying to become a male escort for the last 6 months was very weary of up front fees but finally gave into one as i had become really desperate  and believe i have been scammed i have seen that a lot of people don't believe that there are any agency's for straight males but i do have a friend who said he did work for one a few years ago which he had found through gum tree can anybody help please
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Cat_BBW on 10 March 2013, 07:52:32 pm
hello i have been looking at trying to become a male escort for the last 6 months was very weary of up front fees but finally gave into one as i had become really desperate  and believe i have been scammed i have seen that a lot of people don't believe that there are any agency's for straight males but i do have a friend who said he did work for one a few years ago which he had found through gum tree can anybody help please

Sorry to say it, but you HAVE been scammed.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 10 March 2013, 07:54:46 pm
hello i have been looking at trying to become a male escort for the last 6 months was very weary of up front fees but finally gave into one as i had become really desperate  and believe i have been scammed i have seen that a lot of people don't believe that there are any agency's for straight males but i do have a friend who said he did work for one a few years ago which he had found through gum tree can anybody help please

The second best help I can give you is that very little in terms of successful enterprises are to be found on the likes of Gumtree, and that your friend is 99.9% talking out of his arse (and not entirely surprisingly - not that many men are going to want to admit that they a: tried to get women to pay for sex with them and didn't get a single taker b: were daft enough to give the person telling them that they'd make a fortune money, and/or c: did make some money, but only by taking male clients.

The best help I can give you is to suggest you read the rest of this thread which is now very long indeed, and for a good reason. There's also the Big Scam Agency thread, which somebody may pop along and link to.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Libertariana on 10 March 2013, 08:21:06 pm
hello i have been looking at trying to become a male escort for the last 6 months was very weary of up front fees but finally gave into one as i had become really desperate  and believe i have been scammed i have seen that a lot of people don't believe that there are any agency's for straight males but i do have a friend who said he did work for one a few years ago which he had found through gum tree can anybody help please


In my (humble) opinion, Amy has provided you with the best odds you are ever likely to find with regard you chances of a successful new career as a STRAIGHT MALE ESCORT!!!!  Thank her, grab your 0.01% chance, grasp it tight, give it a little hug and flee, never to look back.

STRAIGHT: as in you are a man who has sex with women, the same kind of human for whom fending OFF the advances of the opposite sex's attmepts to coerce, bargain, lure, persuade, flatter, buy, irritate, bully, convince..........them into agreeing to engaging in SEX WITH THEM FOR FREE, is a daily occurrence.

MALE:  see obove.

ESCORT: an individual of suffiient desirable attibutes (read: vagina and womanly charms) to be of adequate interest (read: vagina and womanly charms) to evoke the flowing of juices, both blood to cock direction and blood to brain direction, that result in a supply and demand dynamic actually the 'right way round' so as said escort is not paying the customer to 'take' their services but is instead being paid BY the customer to provide their services.

a, b, c........1, 2, 3?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 10 March 2013, 08:54:09 pm
..was very weary of up front fees but finally gave into one as i had become really desperate

.. and there are people who can't understand how the scammers get victims...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 10 March 2013, 09:50:07 pm
Whenever a guy asks me for advice on this topic, I fill him in on the fact there is no little to no market. They then say even one booking a month/6 months/a year would be enough for them, and so are prepared to put time in and pay for advertising. I've even tried explaining that after expenses, travel etc they are going to end up with very little if any of the small fee paid, and they still want to give it a go.

I'm suppose 1 free shag must be worth the hassle of putting themselves out there, screening clients via email or phone calls, wading through TWs and finally making it. Never yet heard back from anyone who's had any success.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: ParisB on 10 March 2013, 11:52:38 pm
   If i had a pound for every guy that i met (and for guys  i mean clients ) that would like to be a male escort then  i would have half a dozen of those massive big plastic coke bottles that you can put your small change in and i would be in the process of buying another one as the rest would be full up .

and I'm not slating those clients that would want to do this,  but i simply tell them that there is no business for male escorts unless they are gay or bisexual.    And if they are straight then  they have about as much chance of getting work as a male escort  as  I do as dancing on stage with Beyonce when she tours  the Uk . In fact i probably have 98 percent more chance of dancing on stage with Beyonce because she dose have female dancers  when she tours 

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: kasim on 21 March 2013, 09:17:13 pm
hi there,

does anyone know about this 'established' agency? a friend recommended it...?
Amy said its a scam?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Lady_Lust_XXX on 21 March 2013, 09:18:19 pm
And Amy is correct, how many different ways do you want to be told.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 21 March 2013, 09:44:46 pm
See above...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: kasim on 23 March 2013, 04:29:27 am
can anyone tell me if it is legit????

thanku!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Nobody Interesting on 23 March 2013, 05:55:05 am
Seriously?

http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=506.msg110631#msg110631

How many times  :FF
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EmilyJones on 23 March 2013, 07:04:09 am
can anyone tell me if it is legit????

thanku!

As ever, a search of the forum would've provided you with the information you're looking for.

I've merged your post with this thread, and if you read the whole thing from the start you'll see that straight male escorting is a scam industry.

A straight male escort might be able to get 1-2 female clients per year to pay him a little bit of money for a session, but he'll have to pay out ten times that amount on advertising, photographs and a website, so in the end he'll be the one paying for the session really.

If you want to make money from the sex industry, you need to service men.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Nobody Interesting on 23 March 2013, 09:10:45 am
Emily, they asked on the 21st if you scroll up, Amy had already merged, hence my head-banging x
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: LadiesBliss on 02 May 2013, 06:49:38 pm
Hi, I am a gentleman ladies only escort, now, before I hear cries of oh no not another one, I know it?s not exactly an area of business where clients are going to be plentiful yet the competition the exact opposite ? but, being 35, well groomed, well spoken and a fun loving guy who likes to make ladies happy, rather than play with hearts and minds I?d thought being a paid escort/companion might be the way to go.

So, new to the business, I thought, do the right thing, sign up with an agency and see how it goes . . so that?s what I did ? I will at this point name no names, the agency I signed up with I?ve been with now for close to 11 weeks now, have given them ?1800 and received from them no work, promises of work, sure, but no work - it normally goes along the lines of ?we have this client/job, its going to pay (insert four figure sum here) but, we need some more money from you!?

For those out there who work for agencies, is this normal practice?
I?m a high class guy, but starting to feel like a low down chump.

Any advice, also, is there a list of agencies out there that need to be avoided as they are scamming or just plain dangerous?

Any advice, is gratefully received, with many thanks
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 02 May 2013, 06:54:59 pm
You're not unlucky, probably a bit na?ve but mostly gullible. Please read the rest of this thread to find out why - make a brew first as there's plenty of it even if it is pretty much all the same.

Everybody else, nothing to see here (that we've not all seen x times before, anyway).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Kimmy on 02 May 2013, 09:03:08 pm
Hi, I am a gentleman ladies only escort, now, before I hear cries of oh no not another one, I know it?s not exactly an area of business where clients are going to be plentiful yet the competition the exact opposite ? but, being 35, well groomed, well spoken and a fun loving guy who likes to make ladies happy, rather than play with hearts and minds I?d thought being a paid escort/companion might be the way to go.

So, new to the business, I thought, do the right thing, sign up with an agency and see how it goes . . so that?s what I did ? I will at this point name no names, the agency I signed up with I?ve been with now for close to 11 weeks now, have given them ?1800 and received from them no work, promises of work, sure, but no work - it normally goes along the lines of ?we have this client/job, its going to pay (insert four figure sum here) but, we need some more money from you!?

For those out there who work for agencies, is this normal practice?
I?m a high class guy, but starting to feel like a low down chump.

Any advice, also, is there a list of agencies out there that need to be avoided as they are scamming or just plain dangerous?

Any advice, is gratefully received, with many thanks

You've got no chance,  even huge fat old women can charge a hefty price for sex, they don't need to pay for it.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: pandora on 03 May 2013, 03:29:40 pm
Hi, I am a gentleman ladies only escort, now, before I hear cries of oh no not another one, I know it?s not exactly an area of business where clients are going to be plentiful yet the competition the exact opposite ? but, being 35, well groomed, well spoken and a fun loving guy who likes to make ladies happy, rather than play with hearts and minds I?d thought being a paid escort/companion might be the way to go.

So, new to the business, I thought, do the right thing, sign up with an agency and see how it goes . . so that?s what I did ? I will at this point name no names, the agency I signed up with I?ve been with now for close to 11 weeks now, have given them ?1800 and received from them no work, promises of work, sure, but no work - it normally goes along the lines of ?we have this client/job, its going to pay (insert four figure sum here) but, we need some more money from you!?

For those out there who work for agencies, is this normal practice?
I?m a high class guy, but starting to feel like a low down chump.

Any advice, also, is there a list of agencies out there that need to be avoided as they are scamming or just plain dangerous?

Any advice, is gratefully received, with many thanks



?1,800!!!!????? Grief I need to set up a fake agency.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Libertariana on 03 May 2013, 08:24:35 pm
Hi, I am a gentleman ladies only escort, now, before I hear cries of oh no not another one, I know it?s not exactly an area of business where clients are going to be plentiful yet the competition the exact opposite ? but, being 35, well groomed, well spoken and a fun loving guy who likes to make ladies happy, rather than play with hearts and minds I?d thought being a paid escort/companion might be the way to go.

So, new to the business, I thought, do the right thing, sign up with an agency and see how it goes . . so that?s what I did ? I will at this point name no names, the agency I signed up with I?ve been with now for close to 11 weeks now, have given them ?1800 and received from them no work, promises of work, sure, but no work - it normally goes along the lines of ?we have this client/job, its going to pay (insert four figure sum here) but, we need some more money from you!?

For those out there who work for agencies, is this normal practice?
I?m a high class guy, but starting to feel like a low down chump.

Any advice, also, is there a list of agencies out there that need to be avoided as they are scamming or just plain dangerous?

Any advice, is gratefully received, with many thanks


"The definition of insanity is making the same mistake over and over and expecting a different result"
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: wayne86 on 01 July 2013, 10:24:43 am
can anyone recommend any escort sites or agency's  for men please?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: wayne86 on 01 July 2013, 11:27:25 am
I am starting out as a male escort could anyone give me any advice and links to any free sites I could join. I am based in the Doncaster south Yorkshire area any help would be great thanks.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: wayne86 on 01 July 2013, 11:46:42 am
Paris where is the best place for me to advertise as a straight male escort in the south Yorkshire area free would be best as ive spent money already and don't no if this is going to take off I hope it does any help would be great thanks.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Lady_Lust_XXX on 01 July 2013, 11:47:37 am
Welcome to SAAFE.

Your first steps should be to read the Main Site (button above) two, three and four times.  Then do searches for anything that has popped into your mind and then ask any questions that you cant find answers too.

There is far too much to cover to go into it all.

Best bit of advice would be : Don't expect a lot of work as a M for F bookings, if you get any at all however M for M is another story that some of the guys may be able to help you with.

Good Luck and Happy Reading !
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 01 July 2013, 12:06:16 pm
I have merged your post with this thread, because it's the best one for hopeful straight male escorts who won't do men. Sadly, the basic advice is 'give up now', but it explains why, and why the straight male agencies out there are scams... as I think you have discovered.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Kimbo on 10 August 2013, 02:46:29 am
Hello Guys and Girls... i need advice / help to sort this out.
I want to work like Male Escort in London but the information is so... how to say it like TABOO for the Males Escort services... there are several sites that they claim they are Male Escort company but they look so terrible and so scam that i think they are really scam some of them asking for Yearly membership some of them monthly i don`t mind to be a member do not understand me wrong.. but i guess nobody ever visiting this sites and they are made for fishes like me to PAY membership and to wait.

Few words for me im 30 years old Master Teacher of fitness and many other sports i don`t want to become Escort just because of MONEY or something i like the general idea of this kind of business.
And just don`t know from where to start i mean how to do it properly and right.

So if any of you know legit place from where to start will be awesome.

Thanks in advance :)



Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Lady_Lust_XXX on 10 August 2013, 07:00:53 am
Sadly I don't think there is anyone on the forum that could give you the name of a REAL male escort site for all the ones we know are ALL scams.

There is a thread about re this here : http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=506.msg110838#msg110838   Have a read, it is very informative even if its not what you are wanting to see.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 10 August 2013, 08:17:36 am
I've moved this here - there are genuine male escort agencies, but they are for the gay market. If you are looking to escort women, the best advice is give up now, but there is more about why and what you could do here. It still is very unlikely to get you any female clients though...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: talldarkandrandom on 14 October 2013, 12:53:53 am
Hi guys and gals!

So, after much thought, I've decided to try and get work as a male escort. I should state, straight out, I have zero experience at this! I registered on AdultWork and had a message looking to book me within 45 minutes from a pleasant-enough seeming bi-curious local guy who wants to meet up. Nothing too strenuous, he just wants to try out giving oral, which I'm fine with. I wasn't specifically looking for gay work, but I'm pretty open-minded so... whatever.

Anyway, just thought I'd seek out some tips just to make sure I'm working smart and staying safe; I've no concerns for my physical safety (I've fought professionally and I have a decent martial arts background, so I'm certain I won't be physically harmed) but I just wanted to see what else I need to be aware of!

While I'm on the subject, what's the best way of attracting female clients? As much as I have no problem with doing gay work (up to a point), I much prefer the company of women as a general rule, both in a sexual and non-sexual context.

Anyway, any advice?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: x-Veronica-x on 14 October 2013, 01:00:26 am
You have a 1% chance of getting a female client and that's being generous
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 14 October 2013, 01:34:26 am
I've put this in here (and Veronica, don't get the poor blokes's hopes up :)) because of your closing question, and because finding female clients is the thing you need to understand you are almost certainly never going to do. Read the rest of this thread to find out why - there's plenty of it.

As for attracting male punters, there is a thread further down the page here (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=18152.0) which ought to be helpful (and a few more dotted about if you use the Search box - try things like Gaydar) :).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 14 October 2013, 03:57:09 pm
Hmm, it depends on where you are, but 1% is probably in the right area, ignoring all those who think that sticking a picture of their genitals on AW is the way to go.

Think, think, and think again about what to offer and where.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Michael James on 17 October 2013, 02:28:55 pm
Hi folks, I'm hoping for some constructive advice.
I'm starting out as a straight male escort/companion. I really am confused about it all. I don't know who are scams and who are genuine agencies etc, Iv registered on Gentlemen4hire, platinum select, male escort directory, and a couple of others. but i don't know who sees these. I keep getting calls from Escort resourcer? they want money, i have already paid gentlemen4hire and platinum select. Iv got Cavendish Knights(who look the best bet really) trying to recruit me.
 Am i flogging a dead horse, getting ripped off or is there and advice/ tips you can give me, I'm sure there is def a market for me, I'm really keen to get started.
Thanks guys any links to reputable sites would be a help too.   
Michael James
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 17 October 2013, 03:55:16 pm
Hi folks, I'm hoping for some constructive advice.
I'm starting out as a straight male escort/companion. I really am confused about it all. I don't know who are scams and who are genuine agencies etc, Iv registered on Gentlemen4hire, platinum select, male escort directory, and a couple of others. but i don't know who sees these. I keep getting calls from Escort resourcer? they want money, i have already paid gentlemen4hire and platinum select. Iv got Cavendish Knights(who look the best bet really) trying to recruit me.
 Am i flogging a dead horse, getting ripped off or is there and advice/ tips you can give me, I'm sure there is def a market for me, I'm really keen to get started.
Thanks guys any links to reputable sites would be a help too.   
Michael James

In a nutshell Michael, there is no market (hence no reputable sites) and all of the places you have mentioned in addition to any others who tell you otherwise and ask you to give them money are scams. The money you have paid so far, you've almost certainly lost and you are unlikely ever to get any female clients.

For tips and advice, the best I can suggest is to read the rest of this thread and then if you still think you want to hand over your hard earned to some random website which is telling you that the market for straight male escorts is HUGE and you'll earn ???????!!!!!, then read it again :).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Michael James on 17 October 2013, 07:44:31 pm
Thanks Amy, This does'nt fill me with excitement.  So maybe just stick with some free ads for now and hand no more money over. Really appreciate your help.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 17 October 2013, 07:51:28 pm
Well you could, or you could retain some dignity and get a bar job. Within days; nay hours, I guarantee you will be getting more sex and earning more money than any straight male escort in the land :D.




(More being anything >fuck all, to be fair).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Michael James on 20 October 2013, 03:35:08 pm
Ok Thanks
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: kobracai on 24 October 2013, 10:50:59 pm
Hi everyone

I'm a male escort in London (bi curious but mainly straight, considering straight and gay for pay work). Anyone knows any good reputable agency in London for men? I'm guessing most of the work will be platonic companionship service for ladies? How about Cavendish Knights?

I see from reading this forum that most of you are indie but I'd rather try agencies first. Also I have a full time job in another industry so wouldn't want to be indie and advertise too heavily online in case colleagues found my face...

Really glad to be on this site, looks like a great resource.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 24 October 2013, 11:02:09 pm
Hi everyone

I'm a male escort in London (bi curious but mainly straight, considering straight and gay for pay work). Anyone knows any good reputable agency in London for men? I'm guessing most of the work will be platonic companionship service for ladies? How about Cavendish Knights?

I see from reading this forum that most of you are indie but I'd rather try agencies first. Also I have a full time job in another industry so wouldn't want to be indie and advertise too heavily online in case colleagues found my face...

Really glad to be on this site, looks like a great resource.

I've already part-answered this in response to your post in the other thread, but you obviously haven't looked at it :).

It's a toss up whether there is less work for 'non sexual' or 'companion' escorts (male or female) or straight male escorts, largely because the amount for either is so infinitessimal it can barely be measured and may as well be counted as zero. Anybody (like the good people at Cavendish Knights and the rest) who tells you otherwise wants to take your money and laugh at how gullible you are. They are scams, through and through and without exception.

I've merged your post with this thread purely because you mention straight male escorting, but if you're prepare to accept that your clients are going to be male just as the rest of ours are, then read the main SAAFE site (http://www.saafe.info/) first (most of the advice is gender neutral, and you can find out about tax, safety and security, health and so on) and decide how you want to proceed - there are a couple of threads on here about advertising for gay men and just as with us, if you don't want to show your face, don't.

Agency-wise, none as far as I know. You could try Googling to see if you can find any (look for places that are advertising to punters rather than to 'escorts'), but the problem is that as soon as you type in 'male' you'll just get all the scam ones popping up. This is also because there aren't any others.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: kobracai on 24 October 2013, 11:22:49 pm
Thanks Amy... so male escorting doesn't exist at all? how about male companionship? I am guessing a single business woman won't like to be seen at work functions with a different guy every time so that might be repeated business if she likes you as a person? Also I met a male stripper a while ago who did escorting but he found easier cos he had 1000s of girls contacts because of his job. I would definitely start stripping if I had a car (its necessary according to him) so there SHOULD be a market... what do you think?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: kobracai on 24 October 2013, 11:24:36 pm
I'll have a more thorough read at SAAFE tmrw. Thanks.  How about doing companionship for guys with perhaps "extras"? any legit agencies for this?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 24 October 2013, 11:30:14 pm
Thanks Amy... so male escorting doesn't exist at all? how about male companionship? I am guessing a single business woman won't like to be seen at work functions with a different guy every time so that might be repeated business if she likes you as a person? Also I met a male stripper a while ago who did escorting but he found easier cos he had 1000s of girls contacts because of his job. I would definitely start stripping if I had a car (its necessary according to him) so there SHOULD be a market... what do you think?

With the best will in the world KC, I covered that in my post. There is no market - women are even less likely to pay for 'companionship' than they are for sex and men don't either. It is a MYTH (you could do a search for 'non sexual escorting' on here or God forbid, even just read this thread if you don't believe me). Read this thread (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=385) too.

If the male stripper you met was getting any amount of work escorting, he's unlikely to have kept up stripping - it's incredibly hard work and the pay is shite by comparison. He's hardly going to admit that he put up an ad and nobody wanted to pay to have sex with him, is he? I've been as helpful as I can in telling you what you need to do and with whom if you want to do sex work, but whether or not you do it is entirely up to you.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: kobracai on 24 October 2013, 11:38:39 pm
Alright thanks Amy. I'll read all the info on here properly.

I have a new idea: set up a male escort agency, ?50 upfront fee, that'll be lucrative ! Loool !!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 24 October 2013, 11:41:14 pm
If you read through this thread you'll see that about a dozen of us have had that idea already, including me. To be fair, any one of us can take money from you and get you no work whatsoever in return, so we're no worse a deal than the scammers :).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 26 October 2013, 05:16:48 pm
Since this is a myth thread I'd also like to dispel a myth about 'business' men and 'business' women.

This name seems to be used to portray someone who'll be a particularly desireable client who wears a suit, has disposable income and is 'respectable' but gets lonely on business trips

My experience both in and out of sex work is that anyone in any trade or profession can be desireable clients. The rough hands on engineer can have more disposable income than a bloke in a suit clutching a mobile phone and ipad. I've lost count of the number of times I've been told "I run a business employing so many employees" for the bloke to go to be less reliable than someone who works in a hands on, or manual job. Just as many 'professional' men can be bad or good clients as anyone who isn't.

People can be right at the top of a business which is in trouble and not be paying themselves, be up to their ears in debt.

For some reason over the years the term businessman has come to represent respectability, yet anyone involved in the 'business' world will know how much deception and lies, smoke and mirrors goes on in many business meetings.

So there! :P
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: ana30 on 26 October 2013, 05:43:50 pm
Strawberry: I second that. My most lovely clients have always been builders (or in a similar trade). Biggest assholes have been guys with a suit and tie. The only client who has robbed me (I left the money on a drawer and when I was not looking he stole it) was a regular who happened to work on Wall street as a trader. Go figure.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: curvy_girl on 28 October 2013, 04:43:22 pm
i have been lucky enough to have rather well off clients, and really nice personality wise AND no trouble at all! (no jazzing up i promise) i am fairly new so thats probably why.

but i bet it is the builders who are the ones who become regulars and that's what i would like in all fairness, financially it would be better!! its all well and good a guy with everything but if they are only paying the same rate as anyone else and doesn't come back its only good for being able to say you had a good experience. im sure it will all come with time :)

i checked out crazy oz for straight male escorts. they do exist but who would want a male escort? surly even the most undesirable girl will have someone who would be with them so why would they have to pay for it?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 28 October 2013, 05:28:38 pm
i checked out crazy oz for straight male escorts. they do exist but who would want a male escort? surly even the most undesirable girl will have someone who would be with them so why would they have to pay for it?

They don't, CG. That's pretty much this entire 27 page thread in a nutshell :).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: curvy_girl on 05 November 2013, 07:08:22 pm
Haha. Unless something remarkable happens in the male escorting world I recon this is now a dead end thread >.<
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 05 November 2013, 09:38:22 pm
There is a never-ending stream of men who think they could do it, so as with 'how not to book...', this thread will last as long as SAAFE does.

There are female clients, but because there are many fewer than male ones and lots of male escorts hoping for them, the maths will never be good...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 07 November 2013, 12:54:54 pm
Someone who is (now) a celebrity (ish) falling victim to this scam:

huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/22/matt-cardle-porn-male-escort-x-factor_n_4140399.html
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Aussie Male Escort on 21 November 2013, 05:01:29 pm

So you are saying that there is a demand for male escorts?


The sort answer is, male escorts = yes. straight male escorts = no.

I've been advertising as an escort for 5 years now and always advertised as available to 'men, women and couples.'

I see on average a few male clients per day, a few couples per month, duos with female escorts a few times a month and one or two single female clients per year.

If you google 'male masseur and escort for women in london' my website is the second result. backpage is the first result and my ad is on the first page on backpage. Vivastreet and rentboy are both in the top 10 and I have ads on both. So my ad is most likely reaching single women who are looking for male escorts but there just aren't enough of them for anyone to make a living as a straight male escort.


If we had to quantify this how can we do that?

Lets say women can get 10 clients a day, then may a male escort can get say 1 client a day?

Thanks

B

If I had to quantify the ratio of demand for straight male escorts to the demand for male escorts who see men I'd say less than 1%

I can't comment on how many clients per day women and men can get in general sorry. That depends on too many factors.

In my opinion there's currently not enough demand for anyone to make a living as a straight male escort but that may change in future. There are certainly single women and women in relationships who go months or years without having sex (or without enjoying sex) and some of them wouldn't dream of picking up men for casual sex for a variety of reasons. I think it would be a big step forward for gender equality if it were as 'normal' for women to book escorts as it is for men to do so.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: cohanlibrarian on 01 January 2014, 02:18:23 am
So, I'm a guy, yes.
A (mostly) straight guy struggling to pay for anything.

A few years ago a friend of mine suggested there was demand in her agency for straight guys, but I've left that town since.
I've realized that all the agencies I look for online ask for upfront fees, so they're clearly just scamming me.

But more to the point, even if I could get myself out there, would any woman (or man) want the services of an escort who needs a walking stick to get around? I'm strong, I'm thin and I'm sure not all the compliments I've received in my life were lies, but to what extent would I need to hide the fact that I can't climb stairs without that walking stick (which I otherwise just use to swagger)?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 01 January 2014, 02:34:29 am
Ach, the first one of the year and it took two hours and eighteen minutes.

CL, please read the rest of this thread. If you're prepared to do men, you've got at least a chance of some work, but it doesn't really seem to be the main focus of your post so I've moved it here. You can use the Search box to look for things like 'gay male escort' (there are a few threads on advertising and so on) if you think it'll be helpful but if you're hoping to have found the solution to your financial woes, you're probably better ditching this forum and getting back on Google to look for a Plan B.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: roseanna on 01 January 2014, 12:19:37 pm
I think it would be a big step forward for gender equality if it were as 'normal' for women to book escorts as it is for men to do so.

Never! Not in a Billion years.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 01 January 2014, 12:38:54 pm
I think it would be a big step forward for gender equality if it were as 'normal' for women to book escorts as it is for men to do so.

Never! Not in a Billion years.

I don't think it's any less 'normal', I just think it's less common. It does depend on how we're defining normal, but there are a fair few women who book 'escorts' even if they are only a tiny percentage of punters. What they don't do, on the whole, is book male ones.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: ClaretKnight on 07 January 2014, 09:22:47 pm
I think it would be a big step forward for gender equality if it were as 'normal' for women to book escorts as it is for men to do so.

Never! Not in a Billion years.

I don't think it's any less 'normal', I just think it's less common. It does depend on how we're defining normal, but there are a fair few women who book 'escorts' even if they are only a tiny percentage of punters. What they don't do, on the whole, is book male ones.
I think you're quite right. I've been a professional male escort for women for the best part of a decade and there are very few of us around because of the lack of work.

The only way I've been able to succeed is by promoting myself by doing TV documentaries, magazine articles, interviews, talks and being highly ranked in Google for five years, above many of the leading agencies, until they changed their blasted search algorithm six months ago. 99% of my earnings is from a few regular clients that have remained with me over over the years.

If only I had as many women interested in my services. as I do guys asking me about how to become a straight male escort, I'd be a very wealthy man. So here's my advice to those guys who want to give it a go. Spend a lot of time and money promoting yourself for years and, if you're lucky, slowly claw back your outlay and after a few more years, you might have a business. It's not easy and it's not a get rich quick scheme. Good luck.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Cavendish Knight on 23 January 2014, 10:44:55 am
Hi I'm new on here and I'm sure this topic will have been covered but I can't find a thread that exactly covers my situation. Last year, after quite a lot of thought, I decided to sign up with Cavendish Knights who are a "non-sexual" male escort agency. There are many such scams but this one seemed credible and spent a lot of time exchanging emails with me.  There was just a one-off fee of ?17 to join which seemed very little to risk.

Now a year later I haven't received a single booking and they're much less inclined to engage in any discussion about why this might be!

Can any members on here please give me advice because I see there are 3 possibilities:

1. Despite all their publicity, the market for non-sexual male escorts is virtually non-existent.

2. There is a market but for younger men than myself.

3. It's a scam - but would it really be worthwhile to do all this work to scam people out of such small amounts of money?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 23 January 2014, 10:49:46 am
Your answers are '1' and '3'. If you'd done a search for 'straight male escorts' you would have found this thread, but I've merged you post in with it now so if you want to waste any more of your time on this you can read it all and find out why.

Hopefully your choice of username will mean it pops up in Google and leads a few more optimists to it, too :).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Cavendish Knight on 23 January 2014, 11:48:51 am
Amy

Thanks for this quick (and clear!) response. I was going to ask how to publicise the scam but hopefully this will help.

Can anyone advise how I can get my profile removed from their site if they prove difficult about doing this please?

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 23 January 2014, 12:04:32 pm
Well if I'm right (and I'm not in a position to look at their site now) the main thing would be not giving them any more money - if you have a Direct Debit or similar, call the bank and stop it.

As far as the site goes, I would imagine that if you use whatever contact details they provide and ask that your ad be removed that ought to do it, but if they get arsy just threaten to report them to both their hosting company and Google. They don't have to know that you've finally cottoned on to them - you could be leaving the country and no longer available to their non-existent female punters :D.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Cavendish Knight on 23 January 2014, 06:25:28 pm
Well if I'm right (and I'm not in a position to look at their site now) the main thing would be not giving them any more money - if you have a Direct Debit or similar, call the bank and stop it.

As far as the site goes, I would imagine that if you use whatever contact details they provide and ask that your ad be removed that ought to do it, but if they get arsy just threaten to report them to both their hosting company and Google. They don't have to know that you've finally cottoned on to them - you could be leaving the country and no longer available to their non-existent female punters :D.
To their credit, they've removed my profile quickly and there's no Direct Debit; I only made one small payment at the beginning. That's what still puzzles me: how is it worth running a scam to get such tiny amounts. It'll have to remain a mystery, I guess.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 23 January 2014, 06:31:00 pm
Well if I'm right (and I'm not in a position to look at their site now) the main thing would be not giving them any more money - if you have a Direct Debit or similar, call the bank and stop it.

As far as the site goes, I would imagine that if you use whatever contact details they provide and ask that your ad be removed that ought to do it, but if they get arsy just threaten to report them to both their hosting company and Google. They don't have to know that you've finally cottoned on to them - you could be leaving the country and no longer available to their non-existent female punters :D.
To their credit, they've removed my profile quickly and there's no Direct Debit; I only made one small payment at the beginning. That's what still puzzles me: how is it worth running a scam to get such tiny amounts. It'll have to remain a mystery, I guess.

Well it's not such a mystery really - if you can con ?17 out of 100 people a month most months you're not doing too badly considering you need to do absolutely nothing in order to get it bar set up a crap website with a pack of lies on it and swap a few emails, which anybody could do on their phone without even getting out of bed. Given the number of hopeful 'straight male escorts' on sites like Adultwork, the term 'shooting fish in a barrel' springs to mind.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: strawberry on 23 January 2014, 07:04:02 pm
I've recently heard of a site with male as well as female advertisers who promised a straight male he'd be earning within a week, and he handed over a lot more than ?17. I just hope they don't try the same inflated price renewal scam on him. I've pointed him in the direction of this site and thread.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: boothy on 02 February 2014, 09:44:27 pm
Hi I am trying to make my personal website [removed] into a brand, any suggestions on how I can do this? Thanks Ian Uk male escort   ::)




[Link removed and added to profile - please don't spam the forum]
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 03 February 2014, 03:48:06 pm
You go to a blacksmith and get them to put metal letters on the end of a long stick, heat the letters up, and...  ;D

That's probably not the sort of 'brand' you had in mind, but I am not sure what you are thinking of.

I am sure that you need to have a read of the thread this is now in before deciding to spend any more money on this.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Anthony on 23 April 2014, 03:18:45 am
Hi Guys,

I have consider becoming an male escort for some time now and i have finally decided to take the plunge. Has anyone got any advice to help me get off to the best start? I am a straight male, mid 40's and will travel. Is it best to be an independent or sign to an agency?

Any advice would be very much welcomed. 

Many Thanks xx
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: happyhappyjoyjoy on 23 April 2014, 03:57:12 am
Hi Anthony,

Please take a look at this thread http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=408.0

I'm not sure there is a market in the uk for straight male escorts unless you are willing to go gay for pay. Its a shame really I know my fella would love to do what I do.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: ana30 on 23 April 2014, 04:05:40 am
Hi Anthony,

As you must know the market for straight male escorts is very very small. You will find many agencies stating they have females clients waiting for you and  will ask for a joining fee, and that's because they're a SCAM (in fact: ANY agency asking for an upfront fee is a scam). If I were you I would market myself right away as an independent. Build a nice website were you come off as a very sweet and handsome straight guy and advertise in adultwork, Eros, backpage etc... Keep in mind that 85% of the people contacting you are going to be men (gay men have very strong fantasies about having sex with a straight man). If you fancy men you'll be quite busy, but if you don't ...getting business is going to be quite tough. I know all the posters here will totally disencourage you, but I think the best way to find out if you have business is trying it out for yourself. There's a few reputed male escorts for women out there (with very professional websites) who have been around for a while. How much business they get I have no idea. But if they've been around all this time they must be getting business. I personally know a straight male escort who only sees women and he's very busy, but he has a very "special" way of marketing himself which totally works for him. My advice: Be creative, think "out of the box" and don't advertise yourself "sleazy".
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: john123 on 24 April 2014, 04:45:56 pm
Hello Everyone :),does anyone know of a legit Male Escort Agency?,i was thinking of joining Cavendish Knights,is that a bad idea?,any help and good leads would be most appreciated :).Regards,john
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Stiven on 27 May 2014, 12:23:53 am
Hi, I'm new on this site. I wanna become a male escort. How should I go for it? can u suggest me please.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Hotblondie on 27 May 2014, 12:26:47 am
have a search on aw and google  for male escorts and see for your self how much are they in demand or not.
Most of them are also porn stars or part of a couple.

Then think if you have whats needed to become one.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Stiven on 27 May 2014, 12:29:27 am
Hi guys, can you tell me the way I should star my escorting with an agency.As a male how, where and what  should I do really ? :FF
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: foxy roxy on 27 May 2014, 12:35:46 am
Google agencies in your area and ring them up.  Simple.  Don't ever give them any money and don't expect to be busy unless you are gay or bisexual.  The market for straight male escorts is practically non existent. X
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 27 May 2014, 01:17:20 am
Provided you're prepared to do men, the advice is pretty much the same as for anybody else. Read the main SAAFE site first and foremost, plus you can do searches here for 'new male escort' and so on.

If you're not prepared to do men and think you'll get female clients, we can always merge your post in with all the other optimists in this thread  (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=408.0)later on :).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: princeofdorne on 30 May 2014, 09:40:00 am
I am a newbie to this site and I have been contemplating escorting and/or cam work as a straight male. Would it be possible to earn money as a straight male in the sex industry?

I have heard that "gay for pay" is probably the best way to earn money as a "straight" guy, as most women in today's society can get sex reasonably easy through online dating/hook up sites etc. The only thing is, i'm not sure that I'd be entirely confident going the "gay for pay" route. Don't get me wrong, I am bi-curious but i've only ever kissed a guy and nothing else, but that was just an incident that happened to impress some girls  ::)

There have been times when I've wondered what it would be like to be with a guy. The problem is, if i was to have a sexual experience with a guy, it would have to be by my terms, for e.g. i would want to choose the guy to do it with. I understand female escorts, like many of you on here, would most likely prefer to be visited by young studs all the time, but I also understand that to earn the money, you have to cater to all types of clients.

I would consider myself an open minded person when it comes to sexual relations, but going from a straight male to engaging in sex with the same gender, it would take a strong mindset. Also, with aids being so prevalent amongst the gay community, my concerns are strengthened ever more by this.

I am really just looking for some helpful advice on here. I'm thinking that this would be a short term option for me, as I have other ambitions, so this would be a way of earning extra money on the side.

Any advice would be fantastic, though, thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Aussie Male Escort on 30 May 2014, 11:05:18 am
Welcome to SAAFE Prince of Dorne. Love the username! Can't wait to see The red viper vs the mountain next week.

You're right, there's almost no work for straight male escorts and agencies who offer you this kind of work are all scams.

You can advertise independently but you won't make a living from it. If you google male escort for women in London, my site is always in the top 10 and is the first independent site plus listed high up on all the directories returned in that search but I only see a few women per year.

I see a few men per day though so business can be good if you can see men.

I'm bi but only ever see men who are paying. More into women and TS. I see sex with men the same way I see massage with men. It's just part of the service, I take pride in doing it well and I enjoy doing something that makes people feel good. I get plenty of compliments on what I do and lots of regulars so I must be doing something right and I enjoy my interactions with my clients and I think this shows (plus blue pills help). But for intimacy and my own sexual pleasure, that all happens with people other than my clients. Keeping work and everything else separate works for me, I still enjoy sex outside of work as much now as I did before I started escorting but how you go about things is up to you. Everyone's different.

CDC says the HIV rate for men who have sex with men is about 60 times higher than average but a lot of this is from the party and play subset ie those who get high and have unsafe sex. I don't use drugs and don't see anyone who mentions drugs. I used to come across drug users more when my rates were lower but since raising my rates I hardly ever meet them. The rest of the community without this subset can't be much more at risk than average, especially male escorts who always use condoms.

Good luck and msg me if you need help re advertising etc
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Irishguy on 30 May 2014, 11:17:42 am
I am new to this any advice
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Rosa on 30 May 2014, 11:37:26 am
I am a newbie to this site and I have been contemplating escorting and/or cam work as a straight male. Would it be possible to earn money as a straight male in the sex industry?

I have heard that "gay for pay" is probably the best way to earn money as a "straight" guy, as most women in today's society can get sex reasonably easy through online dating/hook up sites etc. The only thing is, i'm not sure that I'd be entirely confident going the "gay for pay" route. Don't get me wrong, I am bi-curious but i've only ever kissed a guy and nothing else, but that was just an incident that happened to impress some girls  ::)

There have been times when I've wondered what it would be like to be with a guy. The problem is, if i was to have a sexual experience with a guy, it would have to be by my terms, for e.g. i would want to choose the guy to do it with. I understand female escorts, like many of you on here, would most likely prefer to be visited by young studs all the time, but I also understand that to earn the money, you have to cater to all types of clients.

I would consider myself an open minded person when it comes to sexual relations, but going from a straight male to engaging in sex with the same gender, it would take a strong mindset. Also, with aids being so prevalent amongst the gay community, my concerns are strengthened ever more by this.

I am really just looking for some helpful advice on here. I'm thinking that this would be a short term option for me, as I have other ambitions, so this would be a way of earning extra money on the side.

Any advice would be fantastic, though, thanks.  ;D
The bit in bold tells me you've not thought about this, nor understand what makes many women tick sexually. I am not attracted to 'studs' in  my private life, and when being paid the idea of a 'young stud' coming into the room brandishing a hard cock, wanting to shag me to within an inch of my life isn't something particularly attractive.

It's really interesting that so many men think that a big hard cock, long hard shag is what women find pleasurable and satisfying.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 30 May 2014, 11:45:45 am
It's really interesting that so many men think that a big hard cock, long hard shag is what women find pleasurable and satisfying.

You think so? I just find it patronising, tedious and stupid, but then I get a lot of those sort of emails ::) :).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 30 May 2014, 12:36:12 pm
There have been times when I've wondered what it would be like to be with a guy. The problem is, if i was to have a sexual experience with a guy, it would have to be by my terms, for e.g. i would want to choose the guy to do it with. 
..
I would consider myself an open minded person when it comes to sexual relations, but going from a straight male to engaging in sex with the same gender, it would take a strong mindset. Also, with aids being so prevalent amongst the gay community, my concerns are strengthened ever more by this.

What they said.

If you read the rest of the thread, you'll discover that there is a definite niche for '"straight" men willing to let other men suck them off', especially if they can do the right look - from scally to sportwears to suited to ones that don't begin with 'S'! Receiving blow jobs for cash may be ok with you.

If you want to go further than that, it's possible to advertise as a 'top', i.e. someone who just fucks clients rather than being fucked by them. Alternative niches exist, especially in the fetish areas, but if you're going to start to be sexual in any way with men, you should start by learning the difference between HIV and Aids, and the actual prevalence and risks. You're not going to catch HIV by being sucked off, for example...

With cam work, you're still going to get far more male viewers than female ones, but that may be more ok with you. I am not sure how much of a market there is though. I suspect it will depend on the look again. Have a browse in a gay sex shop to see what niches there are.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Rosa on 30 May 2014, 01:53:47 pm
It's really interesting that so many men think that a big hard cock, long hard shag is what women find pleasurable and satisfying.

You think so? I just find it patronising, tedious and stupid, but then I get a lot of those sort of emails ::) :).

I was also thinking about clients who apologise for their small penis or lack of 'stud' like prowess. Also seen a few who after a few,  very pleasant meetings, tell me they almost didn't go through with the first booking because they thought they'd not be able to perform in a stud-like manner.

In my profiles and advertising I am very vanilla and nowhere do I suggest, or give the impression  I am looking for or expect such a thing.

I just wonder where these men get this impression from, Porn perhaps or simply not thinking?

Bit off topic maybe, but what is for sure is whilst women are attracted to a range of men, they tend NOT to book male escorts.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: princeofdorne on 30 May 2014, 02:16:50 pm
I am a newbie to this site and I have been contemplating escorting and/or cam work as a straight male. Would it be possible to earn money as a straight male in the sex industry?

I have heard that "gay for pay" is probably the best way to earn money as a "straight" guy, as most women in today's society can get sex reasonably easy through online dating/hook up sites etc. The only thing is, i'm not sure that I'd be entirely confident going the "gay for pay" route. Don't get me wrong, I am bi-curious but i've only ever kissed a guy and nothing else, but that was just an incident that happened to impress some girls  ::)

There have been times when I've wondered what it would be like to be with a guy. The problem is, if i was to have a sexual experience with a guy, it would have to be by my terms, for e.g. i would want to choose the guy to do it with. I understand female escorts, like many of you on here, would most likely prefer to be visited by young studs all the time, but I also understand that to earn the money, you have to cater to all types of clients.

I would consider myself an open minded person when it comes to sexual relations, but going from a straight male to engaging in sex with the same gender, it would take a strong mindset. Also, with aids being so prevalent amongst the gay community, my concerns are strengthened ever more by this.

I am really just looking for some helpful advice on here. I'm thinking that this would be a short term option for me, as I have other ambitions, so this would be a way of earning extra money on the side.

Any advice would be fantastic, though, thanks.  ;D
The bit in bold tells me you've not thought about this, nor understand what makes many women tick sexually. I am not attracted to 'studs' in  my private life, and when being paid the idea of a 'young stud' coming into the room brandishing a hard cock, wanting to shag me to within an inch of my life isn't something particularly attractive.

It's really interesting that so many men think that a big hard cock, long hard shag is what women find pleasurable and satisfying.

I was under the assumption that most female escorts would prefer their clients to be good looking, well groomed with good bodies, rather than an old guy who is out of shape and not well groomed. I didn't particularly mean some guy who just wanted to bang you until you were sore.  ::)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Cat_BBW on 30 May 2014, 02:36:47 pm

I was under the assumption that most female escorts would prefer their clients to be good looking, well groomed with good bodies, rather than an old guy who is out of shape and not well groomed. I didn't particularly mean some guy who just wanted to bang you until you were sore.  ::)

No, just clean and respectful would top most of our lists. A sense of humour and a pleasant personality would be my runners-ups.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 30 May 2014, 02:38:56 pm
I was under the assumption that most female escorts would prefer their clients to be good looking, well groomed with good bodies, rather than an old guy who is out of shape and not well groomed. I didn't particularly mean some guy who just wanted to bang you until you were sore.  ::)

I've never met a prossie who gave a toss what their clients looked like provided they were clean, hygienic, polite & respectful - it's work, and a punter's physical appearance doesn't even cross my mind when I'm doing my job than it would if I was a nurse, a tattooist or a care assistant.

Provided somebody meets the above criteria (and I could personally throw in a few more like being punctual, intelligent and in possession of a sense of humour) they'll get the best standard of service I can give, and I'll both enjoy providing it and look forward to seeing them again.

One of the 'self-tests' we often recommend here for newbies is to go into a cafe or shop, or just walk down the street and ask yourself if you could have sex with every one of the men you see, provided he was clean and polite. Related to this is realising that you can have very successful sex with people you don't fancy, find remotely physically appealing or even like.



Edit: crossed posts with Cat :)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Rosa on 30 May 2014, 05:24:53 pm

I was under the assumption that most female escorts would prefer their clients to be good looking, well groomed with good bodies, rather than an old guy who is out of shape and not well groomed. I didn't particularly mean some guy who just wanted to bang you until you were sore.  ::)

No, just clean and respectful would top most of our lists. A sense of humour and a pleasant personality would be my runners-ups.

Buff body is not in my tick list for men I tend to be attracted to, and I'm quite 'in-shape' myself.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: BibiofLeeds on 30 May 2014, 07:34:42 pm
Turns up on time after reading my profile and with the minimum of fuss in communications beforehand,clean,nice breath,good attitude and my fee thats all I want.
I couldn't care less if they are good looking.In fact the best sex I tend to have in bookings is with the more mature experienced gent.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Hotblondie on 30 May 2014, 07:40:25 pm
I was under the assumption that most female escorts would prefer their clients to be good looking, well groomed with good bodies, rather than an old guy who is out of shape and not well groomed. I didn't particularly mean some guy who just wanted to bang you until you were sore.  ::)

totally wrong, the clean polite guy who comes in all shapes and sizes/ages will do
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Always Think on 06 June 2014, 10:39:16 pm
If you look in The Star newspaper you will see Escorts adverts for male escorts
BEWARE they are are just after your money
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 06 June 2014, 10:57:14 pm
.. and the rest of the thread I've moved this too is about why.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Candy on 31 July 2014, 04:18:56 pm
I would pay for sex if I would be 60! But only recommended escort, with big cock and viagra of course!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Candy on 31 July 2014, 04:55:28 pm
If I would be straight male escort I would print 1000 of visitation cards and leave them in public places/giving to older ladies if is not illegal. That can save you time and money to spent on advertise. You make free website and for small amount the v cards and you go, at least you have a chance.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: phaedrus94 on 14 August 2014, 04:47:21 pm
Hello, everyone! Thank you to everyone behind this site.  It is amazing.  Interested in escort work (a man looking for women), but happy to be a driver really.  This is a great site, and please keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 14 August 2014, 04:57:27 pm
Hello, everyone! Thank you to everyone behind this site.  It is amazing.  Interested in escort work (a man looking for women), but happy to be a driver really.  This is a great site, and please keep up the good work.

I've moved your post here, because if you're hoping to advertise as a straight male escort and get female clients it's really the only thread on the forum you need to read.

If you'd like to put up an ad offering driving work then please do post in Seeking/Offering, but if you're an owner driver you're likely to have far more luck (and earn far more money) by contacting your local cab firm.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: DanFTM on 15 August 2014, 12:50:37 pm
Re a comment upthread:

"with aids being so prevalent amongst the gay community, my concerns are strengthened ever more by this."

- for what it's worth, HIV/AIDS is actually more in the increase in the heterosexual community than among men who have sex with men, and in my experience both personally and working as a male escort with other men, gay men have FAR more awareness of the dangers of disease transmission than straight men do! (For example, the number of men who want OWO/CIM and to come inside your vagina or anus compared to how marginal and stigmatised the "barebacking" community is among gay men!  This is something you might want to be aware of and educated about - popular stereotypes (as sex workers of all kinds and genders know ;) ) are not usually true! :) :)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: DanFTM on 15 August 2014, 12:52:28 pm
Also, I have done a small amount of escorting for straight women, and more of them are interested in respect, kindness, and good cunnilingus and massage skills than penis size, penetration etc!  Obviously this does NOT prove true for all women, but it's definitely something to note in terms of advertising! (On the other hand, places like CL are full of skeezy dudes offering to "lick your pussy for hours for free", so be careful with phrasing etc).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Anonymous87 on 17 August 2014, 08:08:24 pm
Hi, I'm a new straight male escort with a question. I first advertised my services on 15/8/14 and have so far attracted one bi male.

What are your conversion rates for your adverts?

I've had about 183 views for 1 advert and 1 response. Is that a good rate?

Thank you for your time.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 17 August 2014, 08:11:00 pm
* sighs *

Read the rest of this thread - I've merged your post. If you're not prepared to do men, it's the only one here you need to bother with.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 17 August 2014, 11:59:11 pm
- for what it's worth, HIV/AIDS is actually more in the increase in the heterosexual community than among men who have sex with men, and in my experience both personally and working as a male escort with other men, gay men have FAR more awareness of the dangers of disease transmission than straight men do! (For example, the number of men who want OWO/CIM and to come inside your vagina or anus compared to how marginal and stigmatised the "barebacking" community is among gay men! 

If you look at the percentage increase, yes, but in terms of absolute numbers, it's still overwhelmingly not a heterosexual thing in the UK: the large majority of the 'presumed infected via heterosexual sex' cases happened outside the UK, primarily in Africa.

Plus looking at such increases can be misleading: going from one to two is a rise of 100%, where as going from ten thousand to fifteen thousand is 'just' a 50% rise. The latter one's risen rather more though.

I'd raise one eyebrow at the idea barebacking is marginal or not stigmatised in the gay community too. The last UK 'Gay Men's Sex Survey' I have to hand (reported in 2010, work done in 2008) had about 55% of the men who had had anal intercourse in the previous year doing it without a condom at least once.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 18 August 2014, 12:02:04 am
Hi, I'm a new straight male escort with a question. I first advertised my services on 15/8/14 and have so far attracted one bi male.

What are your conversion rates for your adverts?

I've had about 183 views for 1 advert and 1 response. Is that a good rate?

Was it an actual booking or just an enquiry?

Some of those views will be repeat viewings by the same people, and some will be by 'bots' rather than by humans. If the site is AW and it's an actual booking, you've probably done quite well for the reasons given here.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: DanFTM on 18 August 2014, 01:17:16 am
xw5 - if it's the survey I'm thinking of, it included men in relationships (so men who are fluid-bonded) - my boyfriend and I routinely have sex without condoms with one another, just not with other people!  Compared to the number of different-sex couples I know who have intercourse without barriers because "I'm on the pill" or similar, I'd say there's *definitely* a discrepancy!  It may be a matter of moving in different circles, though....
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 18 August 2014, 08:06:56 am
Can we stay on topic here? Start another thread or take it to PM, please :).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Candy on 01 September 2014, 04:35:22 pm
I know its has been said many times but I came across this one [removed - please don't post links here]. He is from Belgium and has a paid add on one of the popular site which costs oer 120 for two weeks. I don't know his prices but seems that he get's some business, even to pay those adds. He does also couples and seems to give massages, more concentrate on this one, than sex but seems to do sex too. So, if anyone is aiming for women then should go this direction rather than showing a hard cock. If I was a single bussinesswoman I would use his service if he would do very good massage.

Once I was in Poland in a private massage from a man from newspaper and it go really hot but we didn't have sex. I paid the same rate as for an hour sex with a prossie but that was obviuosly massage concentrate only, as I love very hard massage, can't find anything like that in normal women given massage.

[removed]

I would actually paid for somethig like this. I often get problem with muscles, and the therapist is expensive and very short. Good hard man's hands are valuable!




[Edited again - we DO NOT discuss other providers here and general points can be made without naming names]
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Curvygal on 02 September 2014, 11:12:50 pm
Hi, I'm a new straight male escort with a question. I first advertised my services on 15/8/14 and have so far attracted one bi male.

What are your conversion rates for your adverts?

I've had about 183 views for 1 advert and 1 response. Is that a good rate?

Thank you for your time.

I don't really pay attention to the amount of views my profile gets to be honest - for the reasons the others have said (although if I saw nobody was viewing it I'd know there was a problem!)

There is no way of knowing how many of the people viewing your profile actually have any intention of booking anyone, ever.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Curvygal on 02 September 2014, 11:15:53 pm
I got an email through adult work, just had to share it:

'escort to escort?

I have been here long time and have only one review.  We could have fun together and leave each other good feedback and field reports?

Let me know'

So I checked out the profile and sure enough, it's a guy offering services to women.  I can't decide if he's a poor misguided soul who thinks only having one feedback is the reason he's not getting any bookings, or if he's a guy looking for a way to get free sex, or a bit of both!

I responded nicely and referred him here just in case it's the former.  But whatever next!  A good feedback isn't worth anywhere near my hourly rate to me!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 02 September 2014, 11:19:54 pm
Well the above really belongs in How Not To Book... with the rest of the chancers, but yes, it's an optimist who thinks that if he claims to be a sex worker you'll have sex with him for free :).

Presumably he thinks that chefs must eat for free in other restaurants, and hoteliers get free stays when they go on holiday ::).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Rosa on 02 September 2014, 11:34:38 pm
Hi, I'm a new straight male escort with a question. I first advertised my services on 15/8/14 and have so far attracted one bi male.

What are your conversion rates for your adverts?

I've had about 183 views for 1 advert and 1 response. Is that a good rate?

Thank you for your time.

Find a female provider who started around the same date and see how many views her profile is showing. I'll bet it's quite a few more.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Tiffany_jane on 25 September 2014, 10:42:44 pm
Hey is there a big demand for male escorts? An how much would you charge? I'm only asking as a male friend would like to start but not sure where to start  ??? X
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Rosa on 25 September 2014, 10:45:56 pm
Read this :D

http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=408.0
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 25 September 2014, 11:42:27 pm
Thank you for saving me looking for it!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Candy on 29 September 2014, 09:23:42 pm
If you want to make money, I would advice to go to a massage course and get advertise in newspapers and sites, then you are more lucky. I've known some chinese massage salon has been damn busy, you can at least make some money. I would get a nice website with nothing erotic related, you could receive at your apartament.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: PixieLove on 03 December 2014, 07:43:16 pm
Hey guys,

Unusual question I guess...

Could anyone help me with any leads on where a straight man could find work In either escorting, or in the porn industry?

My very attractive straight friend is looking for this kind of work and he doesn't know where to start.

Thank you xxxx
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: alice842 on 03 December 2014, 07:50:39 pm
I'd advise him to have a read through this thread and then give up on the idea of escorting. There's just no market for straight male escorts. Not sure about porn though - might be more work.

http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=408.msg3310#msg3310
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 03 December 2014, 09:17:15 pm
I've merged these (and it took me a while to find it - we haven't had one of these for ages so they're maybe getting the idea) but as Alice as said, 'straight male escorting' is amply covered here.

There are odds and ends about porn if you do a few searches, but in a nutshell if your friend is happy to have unprotected sex of varying kinds with varying people (and have little or no choice about either) for not much money and with others standing around not just watching but recording the event (so that it's findable and viewable by everybody he has ever, or will ever meet) then I daresay he has a chance. Not that many people both can and would want to do this which increases that chance, but even then unless he's something pretty spectacular it's unlikely to ever be more than a bit of pocket money.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Kay on 03 December 2014, 10:50:50 pm
Hey guys,

Unusual question I guess...

Could anyone help me with any leads on where a straight man could find work In either escorting, or in the porn industry?

My very attractive straight friend is looking for this kind of work and he doesn't know where to start.

Thank you xxxx

I think for porn, you need to have a decent sized cock and most of all be reliable when it comes to getting and maintaining an erection and ejaculating. If you've ever watched any documentaries about how porn films are made, it's about as unerotic as you can imagine. He'd probably need to be comfortable (at least) with other naked men, too.

An ex of mine (very cute and young) escorted for a few months but couldn't hack it in the end. He found the sex bit OK but was freaked out going to functions with older clients and being introduced to their friends and colleagues - he just kept thinking they could be his mum and her friends. I also don't think it's very lucrative, and you probably need to be TDH and well-spoken, i.e. to literally be a good escort to functions, or have some sort of USP, like being a bit of rough, well-built black guy, toy boy etc. etc.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: dura on 19 December 2014, 04:58:20 pm
I have paid out 380 pounds to the agency i keep calling them they have all the excuses saying trying to contact me on my mobile phone with no reception to get through.

I cant be live I throw-ed 380 pounds to a scam.

I have they bank account details.

Is there any way I could get in touch with the right authorities who can get me my money back ?

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 19 December 2014, 05:15:15 pm
Yep, you have been thoroughly scammed.

They will say that it is quite clear that you are buying advertising on their crap website and it's not their fault that no-one wants you. I suspect that wasn't what they said on the phone though...

Let me merge this with the big thread...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Niall12o on 20 December 2014, 03:34:27 am
Hi all,

Looking to become an male escort, been doing my research all the agncy i have came across seam to be scams, any advice of good one near liverpool would be much appreciated.  ;D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Aussie Male Escort on 20 December 2014, 12:25:17 pm
Hi all,

Looking to become an male escort, been doing my research all the agncy i have came across seam to be scams, any advice of good one near liverpool would be much appreciated.  ;D


All the straight male escort agencies are scams as per this entire thread.

If you're ok with having sex with men, there might be work for you.

I'm with a few agencies in London (agencies primarily advertising female escorts that also have a few male escorts listed, all of whom see male clients) but get most of my work through my own website, directory listings, magazine ads, social media and dating applications.

The component of my business that involves women ie duos, double domination, forced bi, cuckolding, couples, women regulars (3 at the moment and the most regular is only about monthly) and very occasional new women clients is a lot more than most bi male escorts see but still not enough to make a living without also seeing single male clients.

I've gone to a lot of trouble to expand this part of my business, and frankly- I wouldn't tell you how, sorry. But good luck and ask me here or message me if you want to know more about advertising to male clients.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Niall12o on 20 December 2014, 02:25:33 pm
Hi all,

i have been thinking about this for a while now, i am a waiter and the money is awful :FF . i have research becoming a escort am 18 i need advise weather or not i would get work a being so young. i do have the social skills to become a escort as dealing with different kinds of people all the time.

could anyone point me in the right direction to go in or is it even worth a try.

thanks
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 20 December 2014, 02:43:29 pm
Niall, I've merged both your posts in here mainly because you mentioned scam agencies, which made me assume you were hoping to find female clients. If this is the case, please read the rest of the thread.

If you're planning/happy to do men like the rest of us, say so and we'll find you some links :). You'll find the ability to give a good blow job a damn sight more important than social skills, though.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Richard on 20 December 2014, 06:37:03 pm
I've gone to a lot of trouble to expand this part of my business, and frankly- I wouldn't tell you how, sorry.

This makes me feel even less guilty about not saying how I did it, thank you! :)

It took a lot of thought and time, even in London. It's going to be much more than ten times harder somewhere less than a tenth of the size and poorer.

Even then as AME says, it would either be a small part of the work or the hourly rate including the marketing time would be pennies.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Phat_Mylo on 02 January 2015, 02:32:53 am
Just wondering if there is a market actually out there for male escorts??  Im from Belfast would likie to start but no idea how!! Any help would be greatly appreciated :)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 02 January 2015, 02:59:22 am
There is... but only if you are prepared to do men.

The fact that you are asking suggests that you are thinking of women clients, in which case you need to read the rest of the thread I have just joined this to...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: awl431 on 21 January 2015, 10:38:21 pm
Hi dan , i would like to know,, if being a bi male escort is viable and offering only oral to men..
and as far as i have read on aw i searched so many straight male escorts getting clients... so are those feeback fake
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 21 January 2015, 10:49:44 pm
Well firstly, answering a question with a question isn't that helpful when it's on a completely different topic but either way yes, you can get business giving men blow jobs.

The straight male escorts on AW with feedback generally have either for webcamming, or as punters (the feedback is from the prossies they've booked, and will show as from people 'offering services' rather than 'seeking services'.

If you've come here to find out how to get female clients you're really wasting your time but if that's the case there's a dedicated SME thread here (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=408.0), so no need to further derail somebody elses.



EDIT: merged with appropriate thread, since original one didn't need bumping.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: awl431 on 21 January 2015, 11:07:32 pm
srry ..
it was seeking services though
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 21 January 2015, 11:21:51 pm
There'll be the odd one (as posted further up the thread, there's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead), but the vast, vast majority will be from female prostitutes who are advertising from the site themselves, not lone civvy women (as we would get with men).

It's not unknown for us to be asked to send the booking form so it looks like we've booked these blokes even though they approached us - I've been asked a few times. Couples bookings aren't unknown, but this is normally clear from the feedback - I think there's a feedback dissemination further up the thread too (from the profile of a 'straight male escort' who had at least two feedbacks from men ::)).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: alice842 on 21 January 2015, 11:37:01 pm
srry ..
it was seeking services though

It's very easy for people to make a fake account and put through a fake booking for themselves. All they have to do is not access the 'seeking services' account from the same IP address as the 'offering services' account and they won't get linked (or they could ask a friend to do it etc.). I doubt any straight male escorts get more than 1 or 2 genuine bookings .. ever. As is discussed on this thread straight women just don't seem to pay for sex. If you're set on trying it then give it a go, just don't expect many female clients.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 22 January 2015, 12:25:00 am
if being a bi male escort is viable and offering only oral to men.

It depends on just what you mean by "viable", but particularly if you can do certain 'looks', there's a market of men that will just be interested in giving you oral.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: awl431 on 22 January 2015, 09:46:45 pm
what if the client has aliases.. trustworthy?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Vikingman on 18 March 2015, 08:29:41 pm
Need some advice on where to start
I have been offered loads of positions with "agencies" asking for an upfront fee which I know is all a scam I'm just looking for a website or something where I can advertise self so I can start
Money is a slight issue at the moment so any free websites I can start on unti I can get my feet off the ground?
Thanks
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 18 March 2015, 08:37:08 pm
And *merged*

A quick forum search would have found you this thread pretty quickly, but now I've done that for you you have 34 pages of reasons why you are on a hiding to nothing. We can't tell you about any free websites bar Adultwork (which won't cost you anything money-wise but nor will it get you any work - if money's tight, the time you'll use would be better spent ringing round looking for a job).

Since the rule changes on which pictures can be displayed publicly, it doesn't even afford you the chance to fulfil any burning ambitions you had of posting pictures of your genitals in the public domain, either, although that doesn't seem to have stopped everybody. Don't waste your time.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Aussie Male Escort on 18 March 2015, 11:01:24 pm
If you're hoping to make a living as an escort for women clients, see Amy's response above.

If you're looking for free places to advertise to get male clients, try craigslist and grindr
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: cronikk on 14 June 2015, 03:53:38 pm
My name is leon I am looking to become a male escort if anyone can help please ring [removed]
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: bodunchar on 14 September 2015, 04:20:09 pm
Hi
I have had a look around for older posts on this subject but after poking around (cough) for a few mins I cant find what I'm looking for.
I am a guy who would like to ask the lovely forum members, what do women want?  Gay guys too.  Im not gay buy would gay guys mind dating a non-gay guy who is not really fussed if someone is gay or not (hey no touching).
Imagine you (assuming your a lady or even a gay guy) wanted a male companion for a date absoloutely no hanky-panky involved, what do you want from a guy?
You want someone who can entertain, talk and listen, be presentable and considerate?
What else?
Before I go down this route (escort) I want to know how I can best meet these needs - emotionally/socially.  Physically I dont think I have any concerns, woman like all body shapes right (I'm not fat, been called good looking, lean and trim)?
The reason I am interested is because of the work itself, meeting interesting people blah blah and money.
Thank you very much and have fun!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 14 September 2015, 04:24:11 pm
I've merged this here, since (I think) that's what your post is about.

What women don't generally want is to pay men for sex, which is why this thread is so long. And men who book male escorts don't do so in order to take them out for dinner - non-sexual escorting is another lie which scam operators feed you because they want your money. I'd strongly suggest reading the rest.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: bodunchar on 14 September 2015, 04:36:32 pm
What women don't generally want is to pay men for sex, which is why this thread is so long. And men who book male escorts don't do so in order to take them out for dinner - non-sexual escorting is another lie which scam operators feed you because they want your money. I'd strongly suggest reading the rest.

OK thanks thats a fair comment and I will read on as per your advice. 

You say that women dont generally want to pay men for sex.  However you go on to say that non-sexual escorting is a lie.  PS physical intimacy is not required for sexual exploration and many women know this!  I am confused!   

Males who book male escorts want to get horny, thats quite clear.

Thanks for your reply.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 14 September 2015, 04:44:00 pm
You say that women dont generally want to pay men for sex.  However you go on to say that non-sexual escorting is a lie.  PS physical intimacy is not required for sexual exploration and many women know this!  I am confused!

Then I'll try to be clearer. Anybody who tells you that any number of lone heterosexual women want to pay male escorts either to have sex of any kind or to do anything else with them, is lying. In other words, straight male escorting (that is, prostitution that doesn't involve being sexual with men) as a potential career is a myth. Ditto non-sexual or 'companionship' escorting.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Curvygal on 14 September 2015, 05:42:44 pm
You say that women dont generally want to pay men for sex.  However you go on to say that non-sexual escorting is a lie.  PS physical intimacy is not required for sexual exploration and many women know this!  I am confused!

Then I'll try to be clearer. Anybody who tells you that any number of lone heterosexual women want to pay male escorts either to have sex of any kind or to do anything else with them, is lying. In other words, straight male escorting (that is, prostitution that doesn't involve being sexual with men) as a potential career is a myth. Ditto non-sexual or 'companionship' escorting.

Basically what Amy said.

There's no such thing as companionship escorting.  We aren't being paid three figures per hour to go for dinner, it's sex.  Sometimes we might go for dinner too, but in the end it's normally sex or some form of sexual contact.

My understanding is that the only way you can really make money as a male escort is by going gay for pay.  But again, it's going to involve sexual contact, so your 'hey no touching' will lead to problems, as your clients would be expecting sexual contact.

Nobody pays large sums of cash just for company, despite what the scam agencies and some sections of the media would have you believe.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Nia Hope on 24 September 2015, 07:32:58 pm
Had another email from a guy who has a "Production company" usually would block without replying but didn't this time, I'm so sick of these guys thinking they're doing us a favour and thinking we are thick! He got quite annoyed when I said my rates apply to him taking pictures of me and him filming a session,  :FF
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: londonmade15 on 14 October 2015, 02:29:25 am
I am a london born sri lanakn and currently out of work, considering very hard to become a escort and looked at the site just4dates and might signup. i currently live with my parents and will not tell them

my question is do you have any advice and if its a good idea as i need extra money. im a bit anxious and a bit introvert but this escort job might make me better
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Kay on 14 October 2015, 02:38:35 am
Hi LM - you need to read the main SAAFE site thoroughly, for a start. Personally, I'm sceptical about Just4Dates... Plus, I don't see how your personality would be particularly well-suited to social escorting?

If you decided to go for full service escorting, how/where would you work? If you only do out-calls, what will you tell your parents? Ditto if you work from hotels? I would think about that sort of practicality first.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: londonmade15 on 14 October 2015, 02:43:15 am
Thanks for the quick reply, will read thou the site, i havent signed up yet as it looks kind of odd site.
if i go for full service escort i would still be doing london and south east a i live in south london. if i do out calls, i will just say im going out for a drink or going shopping. might not work from hotels. yep i need to think carefully about it.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 14 October 2015, 08:27:57 am
Just4Dates looks 'odd' because it's a scam site, albeit not one of the worst ones in that it won't cost you quite as much money to get no work :).

If you do a forum search (or even just Google it), it's come up before but the usual maxim applies; if you want to make money as an 'escort', you need to understand that this involves being sexual with men. It's a euphemism for 'prostitute', and not a particularly useful one for reasons like the posts above.

There's far more information on the main SAAFE site, but the number one advice at the moment is to not give anybody any money.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: elevensies on 14 October 2015, 06:43:55 pm
ok new here, so hi all:)

quick question regarding Legitimate escort agencies for males...there's loads out there, and trying to find if one or another is legit (non scam) is proving a minefield

Cheers

ps: found out the hard way (cavendish knights) with scams.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: londonmade15 on 14 October 2015, 07:02:31 pm
I just want to mention, i am also a virgin which i know aint a big deal but i am not by choice, just because i studied and my parents worry of getting a girl pregnant or getting aids. thank again for all the help. this is such a useful forum. i am a IT grad with exp in web design,networking and general maintenance
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 14 October 2015, 07:08:08 pm
From your post it's pretty clear that this thread is the one you need, but I could also have merged your post with this one (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=385.0).

Unless you're happy to be sexual with men there's no work for you - as you're finding, the 'agencies' claiming otherwise are making money from lying to you about this, not from all the female clients beating a path to your door which is why there aren't any legit ones of these, either.

There's plenty to read if you've got time on your hands, but the message is the same all the way through; start working on your plan B.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 14 October 2015, 07:13:21 pm
LM, if (as I suspected, hence my post above) you're a straight man without any intention of seeing male clients then the only thread you need here is this one. (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=408.0)

Either way, how were you expecting to have sex for a living when you've never done so before and haven't got a clue about sexual health (you can't 'catch' AIDS, for example). Would you offer to rewire somebody's house just because you'd seen a picture of a screwdriver?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Kay on 14 October 2015, 08:03:46 pm
Blimey, I missed that piece of minor information! And yes, you need to think about alternative ways of making an income...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: londonmade15 on 15 October 2015, 06:17:34 pm
LM, if (as I suspected, hence my post above) you're a straight man without any intention of seeing male clients then the only thread you need here is this one. (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=408.0)

Either way, how were you expecting to have sex for a living when you've never done so before and haven't got a clue about sexual health (you can't 'catch' AIDS, for example). Would you offer to rewire somebody's house just because you'd seen a picture of a screwdriver?
true, i just thought i could do escorting due to my lack of luck in the current job market.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: londonmade15 on 15 October 2015, 06:18:26 pm
Blimey, I missed that piece of minor information! And yes, you need to think about alternative ways of making an income...

yes i do, i have applied for for many IT jobs but i always get lack of exp excuse and they dont call me for interview
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Midsstudent on 15 October 2015, 06:59:03 pm
LM, if (as I suspected, hence my post above) you're a straight man without any intention of seeing male clients then the only thread you need here is this one. (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=408.0)

Either way, how were you expecting to have sex for a living when you've never done so before and haven't got a clue about sexual health (you can't 'catch' AIDS, for example). Would you offer to rewire somebody's house just because you'd seen a picture of a screwdriver?
true, i just thought i could do escorting due to my lack of luck in the current job market.

You could if you would be willing to do men. All of us have to do men we would never otherwise have sex with in this job. It's no different for males offering gay for pay in my opinion... if you can bring youself to do it (the same way we women have to be able to).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: londonmade15 on 16 October 2015, 02:34:48 am


You could if you would be willing to do men. All of us have to do men we would never otherwise have sex with in this job. It's no different for males offering gay for pay in my opinion... if you can bring youself to do it (the same way we women have to be able to).

 :o no way, i have nothing against gays but i know im stright, i just hate the sight of another pennis.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: elevensies on 16 October 2015, 10:45:37 am
i think this thread was what i needed to read

straight and no female work (seemingly impossible)
lots of scam companies who know this and play on those who dont

if you dont do guys, and your fairly good looking......stripping/ private lap dancing, but this is something you have to do on your own, from your own initiative
but you need rules if this isnt anything more.
its a path, one well trodden.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Midsstudent on 16 October 2015, 08:54:45 pm


You could if you would be willing to do men. All of us have to do men we would never otherwise have sex with in this job. It's no different for males offering gay for pay in my opinion... if you can bring youself to do it (the same way we women have to be able to).

 :o no way, i have nothing against gays but i know im stright, i just hate the sight of another pennis.

I wasn't suggesting you were gay. And it's your choice what you do with your body 100%. But do you think we like the penises we see even if we sleep with men outside of work?  ;D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: JR01 on 26 October 2015, 09:43:17 am
Read this thread quite a bit and thought I would join and put in a few comments.

I have "worked" on and off for several years as a straight male escort. For anyone looking to do it full time forget it, it's nothing more than occasional pocket money with the amount of booking you get.

People saying it's impossible sorry I dispute that. Yes I don't get a flood of bookings but I certainly get bookings. Majority are with couples who want to introduce another person into they're relationship as a one off to spice things up, a few businesswomen and literally a couple of women who have agree with partners to allow each other to meet an escort as way of something different.

One way to be a lot busier is to work as a "couple" I have worked with 3 different girls now and there is very much demand for single guys wanting to meet a couple or couples wanting to meet couples. Strangely the most popular was voyeur service where guys would pay to sit and play with themselves whilst we had sex.

Being able to do work with others means I have built up a few videos and pictures to sell so again a few quid comes from there. Although size isn't the be all and end all I'm very very well endowed which is quite an attraction as I have found out through feedback plus I look after myself so look in good shape.

So to those saying it is impossible no it certainly is not but treat it as extra money now and again and don't expect to be making a fortune unless you can hook up with a decent looking female escort and work with her.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: foxy roxy on 28 October 2015, 10:52:16 am
Decent looking?  Looks are very subjective.  I'm older and larger,  my clients think I'm good looking with a great body, the guys who are interested in younger thinner escorts wouldn't want me,  and my clients wouldn't want the younger thinner ones.

I get offers from guys wanting to do shared pics vids etc, I always say no.  I'm just not interested.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Nia Hope on 28 October 2015, 12:56:26 pm
If I get an email from a straight male escort I always view it with suspicion, usually that they are interested in free sessions effectively. I get asked if any of my clients are female! I wish, would make a bloody change and I'm not even bi sexual!

The post by jr01 was a good one, the reaction from Londonmale was typical, I agree that does he think all the men that book us girls appeal to us? Oh god no! Does Londonmale have the impression that sexy, well kept, rich, bored, horny, older women would have him out on the town every night and pay him for it! Yes that's what he and shit loads of others think. That doesn't even happen to the female escorts, you'll be sucking a wrinkling ball bag for money with the rest of us Londonmale and probably worse if you're a pretty young thing. X

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Richard on 28 October 2015, 01:34:15 pm
I don't think that I ever said it was impossible. The obvious reason is that I had female clients.

I am bisexual, but all but one of the dozen or so of the straight male escorts I know do/did men. Sometimes nothing but. Money is money.

I didn't do threesomes with female escorts. Partly this was not wanting to take home less than they did ;D but having three non-partners in the bed didn't seem that great an idea.

The female client market is very small. A series of niches. Only a few in each will ever get any clients. I used to laugh at some of the attempts.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Mirror on 28 October 2015, 02:39:17 pm
If I get an email from a straight male escort I always view it with suspicion, usually that they are interested in free sessions effectively. I get asked if any of my clients are female! I wish, would make a bloody change and I'm not even bi sexual!

The post by jr01 was a good one, the reaction from Londonmale was typical, I agree that does he think all the men that book us girls appeal to us? Oh god no! Does Londonmale have the impression that sexy, well kept, rich, bored, horny, older women would have him out on the town every night and pay him for it! Yes that's what he and shit loads of others think. That doesn't even happen to the female escorts, you'll be sucking a wrinkling ball bag for money with the rest of us Londonmale and probably worse if you're a pretty young thing. X

Working as a couple is a nice idea, but if the woman is busy working singly I would say it's unlikely she'd want to team up, especially if it involved sex with an extra male, plus I find dealing with couples much more difficult than one person. That's the main reason I will always say "No", I'm busy enough and without having sex with the man, not a clue whether we'd be compatible.

I also have wondered would some clients be put off by mention of another male?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Nia Hope on 28 October 2015, 03:52:39 pm
If I get an email from a straight male escort I always view it with suspicion, usually that they are interested in free sessions effectively. I get asked if any of my clients are female! I wish, would make a bloody change and I'm not even bi sexual!

The post by jr01 was a good one, the reaction from Londonmale was typical, I agree that does he think all the men that book us girls appeal to us? Oh god no! Does Londonmale have the impression that sexy, well kept, rich, bored, horny, older women would have him out on the town every night and pay him for it! Yes that's what he and shit loads of others think. That doesn't even happen to the female escorts, you'll be sucking a wrinkling ball bag for money with the rest of us Londonmale and probably worse if you're a pretty young thing. X

Working as a couple is a nice idea, but if the woman is busy working singly I would say it's unlikely she'd want to team up, especially if it involved sex with an extra male, plus I find dealing with couples much more difficult than one person. That's the main reason I will always say "No", I'm busy enough and without having sex with the man, not a clue whether we'd be compatible.

I also have wondered would some clients be put off by mention of another male?
I have a male that sometimes does duo sessions with me but it's for forced bi sessions, so he sucks and fucks my male clients, he is with me probably 3 times a week for gay experience bookings. I probably get a once a month request for me to have sex with him while the client watches and I'm busy enough that I usually turn them down.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: JR01 on 30 October 2015, 10:21:07 am
If I get an email from a straight male escort I always view it with suspicion, usually that they are interested in free sessions effectively. I get asked if any of my clients are female! I wish, would make a bloody change and I'm not even bi sexual!

The post by jr01 was a good one, the reaction from Londonmale was typical, I agree that does he think all the men that book us girls appeal to us? Oh god no! Does Londonmale have the impression that sexy, well kept, rich, bored, horny, older women would have him out on the town every night and pay him for it! Yes that's what he and shit loads of others think. That doesn't even happen to the female escorts, you'll be sucking a wrinkling ball bag for money with the rest of us Londonmale and probably worse if you're a pretty young thing. X

Working as a couple is a nice idea, but if the woman is busy working singly I would say it's unlikely she'd want to team up, especially if it involved sex with an extra male, plus I find dealing with couples much more difficult than one person. That's the main reason I will always say "No", I'm busy enough and without having sex with the man, not a clue whether we'd be compatible.

I also have wondered would some clients be put off by mention of another male?

The girls I have worked with have always been busy enough but we either did set days/times where we met as a couple or worked on when they had quieter days.
I always prefer to meet up for a coffee or very minimum a chat on the phone and swap pics as I did with one girl but I prefer to meet first simply to see if we were compatible and if working with that person would be feasible.

A lot of guys were the opposite and intrigued by another male joining in. Lots of guys want to have a 3sum but to a lot of guys it's not something you mention to a mate randomly so the idea of a MMF through meeting an escort couple is greatly appealing.

I have also always done things fairly in that I give the bigger split of money made from bookings to the female as I am realistic to know that without her I wouldn't be getting the bookings! For someone who mentioned male escorts going with guys this is something I have never done nor would I ever do. Really not my thing at all and I have on my profile I am straight. Mind you it doesn't stop guys trying they're luck and mailing me! 
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: fifilondon on 04 November 2015, 01:22:45 am
I have a male friend that is on standby for bookings, but they are like many said few and far between, as I don't enjoy MMF threesomes. The ones we have done have been other couples and more increasingly 'cuckhold' experiences. But he takes a lesser % than me and has a 9-5.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: reece78 on 04 November 2015, 03:42:57 pm
are people still wanting male escorts. how do i get the best way without agencies wanting 100s before even do a job i went with agencies in past and total rip off said got all my details and pic and sorted me work out. but once i paid fees i was told i was too late or another i was cancelled on and they look for work as it was pouring in but if its pouring in loads work i got no call . feel like i was banging my head on a brick wall  :-\ reece
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: TheLittleMatchGirl on 04 November 2015, 04:22:50 pm
Is it for gay male escorting?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 04 November 2015, 04:51:08 pm
There don't tend to be advance fee frauds for gay male escorting - there's actual work - so I suggest reading the rest of this thread.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: makaveli on 02 December 2015, 10:54:57 pm
Hello I am new to the industry and a start can you tell me any other agency that is really serious because I gave money to a cheat me and you are a long time in the industry and know maybe the approved agencies.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 03 December 2015, 09:44:48 am
From your other post, you want to read this thread too.

Short version: all the straight male 'escort agencies' advertising for staff are scams, because the amount of work out there is so small.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: realblackgentleman on 30 July 2016, 02:57:01 pm
Hi
I am just starting out with this escort thing, and I am trying to find some clients to start.
Does anyone know where I can start regarding advertising and getting word out?? ???

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Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 30 July 2016, 04:20:37 pm
Because I'm kind, I removed your website link. If you want to put the link back then please add it to your forum profile, but I strongly suggest you get it proofread first by somebody with a good command of written English and no other pressing commitments.

I've merged with this thread because it was handy, but since your site also claims that you don't offer sexual services it's worth making plain that without doing so, you will not get 'escort' clients. Punters (and if you want to do the job your clients will be men, just like the rest of us here) are looking for people to be sexual with, no matter what daft euphemisms you've seen on the scam agency sites.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: brunel on 03 August 2016, 02:43:56 am
Hello, I'm considering becoming a straight male escort but I'm not sure if there is a market for it? I have been seeing female escorts for quite a few years now and I am slightly jealous of the lifestyle, particularly the lady I see regularly. She is extremely high class, and gets taken to lots of exotic locations. I'm also looking to earn some extra cash on the side as sadly my wages aren't going up anytime soon. I've read that a lot of agencies are scams so I would prefer to be independent. Can anyone advise? Thanks
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: BlaqHarlot on 03 August 2016, 02:51:15 am
There is zero market for straight male escorting. Gay escorting in the other hand...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: VoluptuousCurves on 03 August 2016, 07:00:31 am
I've read that a lot of agencies are scams

ALL agencies that claim to have work for straight men are scams. If you are willing to see men then you'll get plenty of work.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Nia Hope on 03 August 2016, 09:49:37 am
I need a guy for forced bi sessions if you're interested?  ;D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Fabulassie on 03 August 2016, 10:35:24 am
Even gay male escorts don't get the same money women do. Well, I could be wrong but it pays less per hour, from what I have seen.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: BibiofLeeds on 03 August 2016, 10:42:04 am
Hello, I'm considering becoming a straight male escort but I'm not sure if there is a market for it? I have been seeing female escorts for quite a few years now and I am slightly jealous of the lifestyle, particularly the lady I see regularly. She is extremely high class, and gets taken to lots of exotic locations. I'm also looking to earn some extra cash on the side as sadly my wages aren't going up anytime soon. I've read that a lot of agencies are scams so I would prefer to be independent. Can anyone advise? Thanks
I don't think being slightly jealous of someone is a good basis to decide upon sex work.If you are struggling with money maybe cut back your punting habits slightly and think about bar work or something to generate extra income because unless you are willing to suck cock for money there is zero chance of you earning money or being whisked off anywhere.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: MaleEscort on 17 September 2016, 01:44:36 pm
Hi Ladies. I'm hoping I could catch your attention for a few minutes and help me with some information regarding this profession?

What it is... I am a young straight good looking male looking to get into this industry, but i am afraid there isn't enough work.

I'm looking to charge ?100 per hour and have between 5-8 clients a week.

I'm a Uni student looking to earn some extra cash...

Do you believe this is a reasonable request ?

Also any other advice before making the big step and start advertise my services.

Thank you, Anthony :)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 17 September 2016, 03:26:07 pm
Do you believe this is a reasonable request ?

No, but by all means read the thirty seven pages of thread before this one if you don't fancy taking my word for it.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 03 October 2016, 06:55:41 pm
Someone's looking to do a programme on this: http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=35228.0 (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=35228.0)

(Posted here in case any of the victims have email alerts for new comments on...)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Access on 19 January 2017, 07:23:02 am
Morning. First of all, I'm a male, please be gentle with me but I'm looking for opinion/advice. I'm a 39 year old attractive male and travel a lot with work so spend a lot of time in hotels. I've been considering becoming a male escort/masseuse but not sure if this is something that can be done. I'm straight, so would only want to see female clients.
Do females really use male escorts as I feel it might be a bit "mythical". Where would I start?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 19 January 2017, 09:41:42 am
Morning. First of all, I'm a male, please be gentle with me but I'm looking for opinion/advice. I'm a 39 year old attractive male and travel a lot with work so spend a lot of time in hotels. I've been considering becoming a male escort/masseuse but not sure if this is something that can be done. I'm straight, so would only want to see female clients.
Do females really use male escorts as I feel it might be a bit "mythical". Where would I start?

I can't believe it's been a full four months since we had one of these :). As ever:

No, but by all means read the thirty seven pages of thread before this one if you don't fancy taking my word for it.

Oh, and the gender specific terms for adult humans are 'man' and 'woman'. Not that it'll make any difference to your business plan.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Access on 19 January 2017, 02:16:20 pm
Thanks for the straight to the point answer  :)
Great site by the way, love the brutal honesty.
Kinda confirms my thoughts. The reason I asked is that it was suggested to me by a "friend" after I gave her a long massage.
There's no business plan ;D

X
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 19 January 2017, 03:57:52 pm
Well that was very kind of your friend, but she was hardly going to say 'wow, that was really tedious, but at least I got to have a lie down and think about what to have for dinner for a bit', now was she?

If the inverted commas are meant to indicate that this woman was a prossie you booked, then it's our job to tell any old bollocks you clearly want to hear about your imagined prowess at everything you do, and if she wasn't then she knows nothing about the sex industry and is in as much of a position to tell you you ought to be working in it as I am to suggest you get into steel fabrication. Is this how you normally plan a career change?

If you're genuinely interested in massage there are plenty of courses and nothing to stop you doing one, although refusing to massage men is going to make you look creepy and weird a bit odd.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Zo on 19 January 2017, 05:20:36 pm
 ;D ;D ;D

Sorry, couldnt stop myself. I love you ami.  :-*
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: wishlist on 19 January 2017, 05:25:30 pm
Regards to the massage, im a qualified swedish massage therapist and I trained as I have an interest in holistic therapies, I maybe wrong but I would guess your motivation is sexual, personally me and I know a few friends when we go for a massage its to relax not to think oh is his hands wandering? his hands are wandering? omg is he getting turned on? ect ect I really cant see any woman paying for a massage from a man it just would not be relaxing  :FF And with regards to women paying for sex.......well I cant add to whats already been said
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Access on 19 January 2017, 11:29:24 pm
Lol, no my friend is exactly that. A friend. Not an escort/prostitute. My motivation isn't totally sexual, it was just something that was suggested to me that got me thinking. I do actually enjoy marking people relax, and I don't see anything wrong with a straight man not wanting to massage another man... as we all know how men can get aroused when receiving a massage. If a therapist that didn't offer extras was put in that situation in a salon, they'd ask the client to leave (my ex ran a salon hence my abilities). As I said in my first post, I think it's mythical in terms of male escorting, or so rare it's not worth exploring further. This forum is full of people involved within certain parts of the industry so I appreciate the comments. Made me smile and even chuckle.  :D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Sigi on 25 February 2017, 10:21:23 pm
I'm a 6'7" (204cm) fairly well built guy looking to become a male escort here in the UK but every site seems so shady how do i know which one to trust? Also are male escorts even in demand? I really like the sound of the job, not for the sex that tends to go hand in hand with the business but for the conversations and different people i'll meet. However i dont even know if there's a market for male escorts at this point.

Please send some advice my way <3
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 26 February 2017, 04:59:02 pm
See the rest of this thread...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 26 February 2017, 05:00:29 pm
.. in short, if you're not prepared to be sexual with other men, no there isn't.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Blakekennedy on 10 October 2017, 09:24:22 pm
Hi Folks, I'm a 40 year old guy, new to the Uk, but not to the industry. I live in London and I'd really appreciate some guidance as to where to advertise please. I've been taken for a ride by Dukes of Daisy and the like and I'd just like to advertise on some sites where I might enjoy some success. Appreciate your time..
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: VoluptuousCurves on 10 October 2017, 09:57:39 pm
Hi Folks, I'm a 40 year old guy, new to the Uk, but not to the industry. I live in London and I'd really appreciate some guidance as to where to advertise please. I've been taken for a ride by Dukes of Daisy and the like and I'd just like to advertise on some sites where I might enjoy some success. Appreciate your time..
Are you happy to be sexual with men?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: English natural beauty on 10 October 2017, 10:09:05 pm
My partner offers escort services. He is also bisexual. We do work together but it is mostly men interested. If your straight and looking to escort to just see women unless you look like brad Pitt and don't have a hint of wanker in you you just won't make the cut  ;D

Just a hint: please don't message us ladies on adultwork advising us to look at profiles with pictures of your dick saying how great it would be to work with us. Unless your paying us or look like brad Pitt or tom hardy we are not interested. And some of us wouldn't care what you looked like we would still want you to piss off  :-*

Have a lovely day :)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Kay on 11 October 2017, 01:32:57 am
Hi Folks, I'm a 40 year old guy, new to the Uk, but not to the industry. I live in London and I'd really appreciate some guidance as to where to advertise please. I've been taken for a ride by Dukes of Daisy and the like and I'd just like to advertise on some sites where I might enjoy some success. Appreciate your time..

Have a read through this thread, but I think where you advertise will rest a lot on whether you're only prepared to see women, or if you're happy to see men.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EasyPeasyxx on 15 October 2017, 10:47:25 am
Hi, looking to use several channels for drumming up business, own website and AdultWork, but also considering an agency. Any recommendations? Easy xx
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: VoluptuousCurves on 15 October 2017, 11:03:48 pm
Just to clarify, you're expecting to have male clients right?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 15 October 2017, 11:10:35 pm
Yes, I haven't merged it with the SME thread since I was giving the OP the benefit of the doubt, so unless he says otherwise we may as well try to give useful answers :).

I doubt anybody will be able to recommend agencies since most male.escorts work independently; most of these advice I've seen given here is fairly London-centric but there's Sleepyboy, Gaydar and a host of smaller sites as well as the likes of Grindr (I have no idea what that is, but if you do a search it's recommended on a few of the existing threads).

You'll get more from Adultwork than you ever will from its parallel site Gayswap; just make sure your profile is clear and doesn't get buried amongst the optimistic numpties and their dick pics who inexplicably think that they'll get female clients. Have you tried Googling your town/area as a prospective punter might if he were hoping to find you? Whichever sites come up, get on them.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 15 October 2017, 11:46:01 pm
The other place to look is the local gay scene press...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EasyPeasyxx on 16 October 2017, 11:12:53 am
Just to clarify, you're expecting to have male clients right?

No, I'm looking for female clients. Easy
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: EasyPeasyxx on 16 October 2017, 11:18:52 am
"The Male Escort Agency" make a lot out of their TrustPilot reviews, just want to now how genuine they are? Easy
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 16 October 2017, 01:16:37 pm
No, I'm looking for female clients. Easy

Then you're wasting your time and ours. Getting women to pay you to have sex with them is possibly the least easy thing you'll ever attempt.

Merged with the only thread on the forum there's any point in you reading.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: wishlist on 16 October 2017, 01:18:40 pm
No, I'm looking for female clients. Easy

 ::) ??? :FF
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: SW on 16 October 2017, 08:40:35 pm
I think someone has been watching Eastenders ha ha! 😂
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: ana30 on 16 October 2017, 08:55:04 pm
"The Male Escort Agency" make a lot out of their TrustPilot reviews, just want to now how genuine they are? Easy

Ugly truth is that there's no real agency that will get you in touch with female clients. But... you could try for yourself. It's quite a difficult market, but nothing is impossible as women have sexual needs to and if you look appealing enough you may get some business. The best thing is to try it out (otherwise you'll never find out). Get a nice website full of very good looking photos of you were you come out as a really nice guy. Post ads in the main directories and see how it goes. I do know for a fact an independent male escort in New York who only sees women and does really well. Good luck!
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 16 October 2017, 09:07:54 pm
... And I know the author of the best male 'whorelit' book, which is full of stories about female clients, but only at the end does he admit that the vast majority were men. It's not what publishers want to hear, including those of a couple women's magazines which have published 'men make ?1,000 a night shagging women' stories.

Well, they might, but they very probably made much more selling their stories to some gullible journalists than they ever did selling sex to women...

Oh, worth saying one more time: if those trustable agencies want any money whatsoever from you before you have cash in your hand from a client, they are a scam.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: VoluptuousCurves on 16 October 2017, 11:31:07 pm
I recently had a close friend who went on a few dates with a gorgeous guy she met via Fet. She sent me his details for safety so of course I immediately googled him :D

He was advertising as a male escort, but in another country. I texted her (whilst on the date) and said she needed to ask him about this, regarding condom use and testing etc.

(I was worried I had pissed on her chips but she has health anxiety so things like this are a big deal for her.)

She asked him - he laughed and said he'd spent fucking MONTHS creating his website and getting photos done and he had a grand total of ONE client in 12 months.

This guy certainly hit all the generically attractive male points and had a great personality too.

ONE booking. In 12 months.

Unless you have an extremely unique USP (yes tautology, I know) and/or a solid gold cock that can create a literal pearl necklace, you are not going to make a living as a straight male escort.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: ana30 on 16 October 2017, 11:55:25 pm
My ex-therapist (shrink) had sex with his female clients (yes, you read properly), and he wouldn't hide it, in fact it was written on his website clearly (plus his rates etc...) He was a not very attractive 46 year old man with a belly and he was booked left and right. And I know because it was very diffucult to get an appointment with him, he did show me his schedule once and he was very busy. He was also married (wife was a shrink too and she didn't minded).

It's all about the marketing. If you market yourself as a gym type willing to take you out for dinner you may not succeed, but if you market yourself as a therapist curing "female sexual disfunction" , hang all your diplomas on your site and put a plain headshot you may be on to something.

There were a few articles written about him and he admited to being a prostitute in the interviews. Nobody blinked an eye. Had she been a woman he would have been teared into pieces. Oh the irony.

My point is: It's all about marketing. And no, I never had sex with him (although he did tried it  ;D)


Anyone wants his phone number pm me. ;D (although I would not reccomend him).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: VoluptuousCurves on 17 October 2017, 10:51:56 pm
My ex-therapist (shrink) had sex with his female clients (yes, you read properly), and he wouldn't hide it, in fact it was written on his website clearly (plus his rates etc...) He was a not very attractive 46 year old man with a belly and he was booked left and right. And I know because it was very diffucult to get an appointment with him, he did show me his schedule once and he was very busy. He was also married (wife was a shrink too and she didn't minded).

It's all about the marketing. If you market yourself as a gym type willing to take you out for dinner you may not succeed, but if you market yourself as a therapist curing "female sexual disfunction" , hang all your diplomas on your site and put a plain headshot you may be on to something.

There were a few articles written about him and he admited to being a prostitute in the interviews. Nobody blinked an eye. Had she been a woman he would have been teared into pieces. Oh the irony.

My point is: It's all about marketing. And no, I never had sex with him (although he did tried it  ;D)


Anyone wants his phone number pm me. ;D (although I would not reccomend him).

Holy shit, that's actually really awful. In a multitude of ways.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Guiltypleasure on 20 October 2017, 09:18:56 pm
It's funny though because when I was married I spent forever trying to find a straight male escort ( could of picked up a guy easy) but I wasn't after sex I wanted an evening out with really no strings but prepared to pay to keep it professional.

Couldn't find one anywhere !

No way would I have gone for one showing his dick etc , but hey I would of been quite prepared to be wined , dined and more at my leisure / choice.

I personally think their is a market but no way if it's based on sex only , I didn't want that, I wanted to be made a fuss of ???

Bit Random but an alternative contribution .
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Curvygal on 26 March 2018, 11:50:10 pm
Funny I've often thought the same GP.. also for things like family events if you have no boyfriend or date to take with you. 
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: MsRedhead on 27 March 2018, 12:22:11 am
I have the best story about this. i recently did jury service and a guy was on trial for possession of crack with intent to supply. He claimed that all of the money going into his account via bank transfers was from escorting (for women) on adultwork. He also tried to claim that the drugs slang on his phone was slang for sex. Kept on mentioning the size of his cock. . I had to go and speak to the judge to ensure I could continue on the case
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: LauraLaura on 27 March 2018, 11:16:18 am
Holy shit, that's actually really awful. In a multitude of ways.

It's taking advantage in many ways.  A couple of friends have had male business mentors who they initally thought would help them with business plans etc but it was all a ploy to bed them.  End of the day: a man's goal in all situations is to shag.  They will go to any means to do this
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Kazzle on 27 March 2018, 12:16:15 pm
I've actually met a straight male escort but he was working when they still had d?butante balls and young ladies needed to be seen in the company of attractive young men by the end of the season to avoid social humiliation. No sex allowed, just company. Any hint of impropriety and the man would be sacked. Apparently the money was very good.

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 27 March 2018, 12:16:29 pm
It's taking advantage in many ways.  A couple of friends have had male business mentors who they initally thought would help them with business plans etc but it was all a ploy to bed them.  End of the day: a man's goal in all situations is to shag.  They will go to any means to do this

Depending on who these 'business mentors' were employed by and what the terms of their contracts were, I'm pretty sure that could be reported to whoever is responsible for them, even if it's just wherever they advertise.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Velvet Gentleman on 05 May 2018, 12:30:13 am
Need some advice or mentoring on being the ideal male escort, with a profile that will generate traffic.

Anyone here genuinely help?? Please, thank you
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 05 May 2018, 12:42:33 am
Most male escorts work independently; try Gaydar, Sleepyboy, even Loot? You might get the odd booking from Adultwork (and more than you will from it's sister site GaySwap) but it's not going to generate much.

I'm working on the assumption that you've done enough research (https://saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=408.0) to know that the customers of male escorts are overwhelmingly men, obviously. If you are intending to try for female clients we can't help you and nor can anybody else; the best advice we can give you is not to hand over money to anyone who tells you otherwise.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Velvet Gentleman on 07 May 2018, 12:19:53 am
Thank you for the advice. I am aiming more towards women, currently on adult work and always researching
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 07 May 2018, 02:57:29 pm
Thank you for the advice. I am aiming more towards women, currently on adult work and always researching

Then as I said above, the best advice we can give you is to stop aiming towards women and start researching ways to attract actual paying punters. I've merged the thread I linked to to make your 'researching' even easier.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Curvygal on 08 May 2018, 02:28:29 pm
Thank you for the advice. I am aiming more towards women, currently on adult work and always researching

As Amy said.....there is little to no work for men looking to escort women. At the very least you have to be willing to escort
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: joy on 19 August 2018, 06:17:20 pm
Hello girls and ladies,

this is my first post. I'm a gigolo, Italian gigolo and I would like to know where can I post apart than the usual gigolo web site agency which asks money upfront and then the profile is placed in the hundreds of the other ones.

I read most of the post at this link: https://saafe.info/main/questions-and-answers/where-to-advertise/ but as far as I understood the links given there are for female escorts only.

Can you help? I would greatly appreciate. X

Joy
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 19 August 2018, 07:06:51 pm
God, we haven't had one of these for ages...

Fortunately there's forty pages of advice and information here from all the previous times when we did.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: joy on 19 August 2018, 07:59:26 pm
I think it's been mentioned in several other posts that the market for straight male escorts is tiny, if not non-existent, sorry if thats not what you want to hear

Would you explain why please?

Thanks x
Joy
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: joy on 19 August 2018, 08:09:46 pm
God, we haven't had one of these for ages...

Fortunately there's forty pages of advice and information here from all the previous times when we did.

Yep I see the thread is quite old but the market has changed since then. Women are paying for being accompanied by a man to events, not only for sex.

Joy
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: joy on 19 August 2018, 08:34:01 pm
Would you tell me, Amy, why I'm restricted and some boards are off limits for me? I'm a gentleman. x
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 19 August 2018, 09:36:10 pm
Yep I see the thread is quite old but the market has changed since then. Women are paying for being accompanied by a man to events, not only for sex.

No mate, they're really not. The only people who will tell you that are the scam sites you've already found, who want to take your money and laugh at how gullible you are. That's also why there aren't any genuine advertising sites.

Would you tell me, Amy, why I'm restricted and some boards are off limits for me? I'm a gentleman. x

Partly because you're a new member and mostly because you are not a sex worker. I already know you're a man, but unless you're interacting sexually with other men (or at least planning to), your forum permissions are limited. That said, the restriction doean't affect your board access, only your access to other members.

Hopefully we don't have any members under the age of 18?

I hope not too, but since he doesn't seem too bright I thought it was easier to concentrate on the main parts :).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Mirror on 19 August 2018, 09:59:49 pm
Would you tell me, Amy, why I'm restricted and some boards are off limits for me? I'm a gentleman. x

You are a gentleman, we just take your word for it?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 19 August 2018, 10:00:30 pm
Yep I see the thread is quite old but the market has changed since then. Women are paying for being accompanied by a man to events, not only for sex.

If that's true, the nice people who want your money will be happy to not have any of it until you've got cash in your hand from a client you've found via them?

No? I thought not.

The basic problem is supply and demand. A single site that's free to advertise on has (looks) 6,828 very optimistic men. The vast majority will never ever get a booking, even the ones who are treating it as an alternative to some hook-up site and offering to do all sorts of things with women for free.

If you're determined to try, it's not difficult to stand out from the crowd..

.. but it probably still won't get you work, because as Amy says, the demand isn't there.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: joy on 20 August 2018, 06:58:38 am
No mate, they're really not. The only people who will tell you that are the scam sites you've already found, who want to take your money and laugh at how gullible you are. That's also why there aren't any genuine advertising sites.

So does this article come from a scam site, Amy?

[link to crap Fail article removed]

Quote from: amy
Partly because you're a new member and mostly because you are not a sex worker.

I'm not? Who told you? [link to free profile on free advertising site removed]

Quote from: amy
but unless you're interacting sexually with other men (or at least planning to), your forum permissions are limited.

Hum, strange rule, I have to interact with men to have larger access, uhm, ok. These are the rules, let's abide to them.

Quote from: amy
I hope not too, but since he doesn't seem too bright I thought it was easier to concentrate on the main parts :).

Share light on me, darling...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: joy on 20 August 2018, 07:00:46 am
You are a gentleman, we just take your word for it?

Let's meet up for a drink/walk/whatever and realize it by yourself. My pictures are here anyway: [and removed again...]
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: joy on 20 August 2018, 07:04:44 am
It's funny though because when I was married I spent forever trying to find a straight male escort ( could of picked up a guy easy) but I wasn't after sex I wanted an evening out with really no strings but prepared to pay to keep it professional.

Couldn't find one anywhere !

No way would I have gone for one showing his dick etc , but hey I would of been quite prepared to be wined , dined and more at my leisure / choice.

I personally think their is a market but no way if it's based on sex only , I didn't want that, I wanted to be made a fuss of ???

Bit Random but an alternative contribution .

Here is why the market has changed Amy. Still you don't believe it? Unless you believe the author of this post is a scam too...

Kisses,
Joy
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 20 August 2018, 08:40:03 am
Here is why the market has changed Amy. Still you don't believe it? Unless you believe the author of this post is a scam too...

Kisses,
Joy

The writer of this post is another sex worker like the rest of us, and one I know personally. As far as I know she never found anyone she wanted to book and from your posts it isn't hard to see why; still, if you think you can make a living on one or two bookings a year and from women who aren't already prostitutes themselves, you crack on. I expect to have done that many by lunchtime.

The article you posted a link to is from possibly the shittest newspaper available, and one which knows nothing whatsoever about the sex industry. Are you saying you think we and all the other people who have posted here over the years know less about it than then a scuzzy journalist whose only remit is to sell more papers to stupid people?

Oh and incidentally, you don't get to sleaze around here trying to proposition members. If either I or Mirror are.going to allow you anywhere near us, you'll be paying our normal hourly rates, 'kisses' (boak) or otherwise. And read the posting rules, for fucks sake. I have better things to do than edit every post you make while you mansplain my job to me.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 20 August 2018, 08:45:13 am
If that's true, the nice people who want your money will be happy to not have any of it until you've got cash in your hand from a client you've found via them?

No? I thought not.

The basic problem is supply and demand. A single site that's free to advertise on has (looks) 6,828 very optimistic men. The vast majority will never ever get a booking, even the ones who are treating it as an alternative to some hook-up site and offering to do all sorts of things with women for free.

If you're determined to try, it's not difficult to stand out from the crowd..

.. but it probably still won't get you work, because as Amy says, the demand isn't there.

Oh, and I see you skipped right past Ian's post. Did you miss it?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: VoluptuousCurves on 20 August 2018, 11:03:23 am
My FWB advertises on AW as a straight male escort. In 10 years he's had two bookings, and both were from couples who wanted to try MMF. Good luck making a living off that...

But if you want to waste your money and time against the advice of hundreds of sex workers who know the industry, knock yourself out.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 20 August 2018, 11:39:54 am
My FWB advertises on AW as a straight male escort. In 10 years he's had two bookings, and both were from couples who wanted to try MMF. Good luck making a living off that...

The UK Adultzone profile our pal tried to post up had had eleven views. Two of those were me (after I pressed refresh by mistake), one was likely Ian, a couple will have been Sharon when she put the thing up on the site and I daresay at least four or five will have been the the man himself. He's not exactly beating them off with a stick, regardless of what the Fail think about it.

I notice the article he linked to wasn't the interview with the man who said he markets directly to women and his customers are still virtually all men. Since he's a member here, maybe he'll pop along :).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: VoluptuousCurves on 20 August 2018, 07:25:54 pm
Since he's a member here, maybe he'll pop along :).

There is a shadenfruede version of me which hopes he does :D
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: MissBehaving on 20 August 2018, 11:26:49 pm
I have met with a male escort , arranged and paid for by a client . He markets himself as an erotic masseur ( my guess is that he trained as a masseur as he's very good ) . Anyway in the 6 years he's been a member of AW , he's only racked up 5 feedbacks , all for mmf threesomes ( 2 are from my client) , despite being handsome , well endowed, tall blah blah blah .
My point is that it's such a niche market that it's practically nonexistent... surely Joy , your own research shows that you have been unable to source a reputable website/agency that actually provided you with appointments hence you ended up asking on here ...
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: nemature on 21 August 2018, 08:05:14 am
I did a mmf with a client and he booked the other guy who was also a sex worker but he is paying for sex normally and said he had only got 3 bookings in the 4 years since starting to advertise. This same guy booked me around 4 weeks ago and said he is still not getting any interest and while his profile is not brilliant I do not think his lack of bookings is the reason for the lack of interest. I think the main point is not many women would think about paying for a man to either accompany her to events or for sex.
I could be wrong but that seems to be what the male escort I met said
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Mirror on 22 August 2018, 07:52:47 am
I did a mmf with a client and he booked the other guy who was also a sex worker but he is paying for sex normally and said he had only got 3 bookings in the 4 years since starting to advertise. This same guy booked me around 4 weeks ago and said he is still not getting any interest and while his profile is not brilliant I do not think his lack of bookings is the reason for the lack of interest. I think the main point is not many women would think about paying for a man to either accompany her to events or for sex.
I could be wrong but that seems to be what the male escort I met said

Yeah I've had a few contact me asking how to improve their business, comparing views of their profile to mine over a similar or proportionate time revealed a lot. I also find most don't know how to screen or keep aware of safety.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Bumblefly on 01 February 2019, 02:41:40 pm
Hi all

New to this site, after searching I thought I'd post here rather than clog up the main forum with a new thread.

I'm brand new to the game; a straight Male Escort covering South London & Surrey. I'm tall, VWE etc etc

I've had my AW profile up since the start of this year and in that month I've only had 5 'real' bookings. 2 from other escorts exchanging services FOC to get their ratings up (all good fun, but I'm doing this for money not for the fun), 1 from a single women, 1 from a single women who hasn't gone through with anything yet, and one from a husband who booked me to join him and his wife. Profile views are around 35-50 a day, but I'm assuming this is gay/bi men looking for men rather than women?!?

After reading this thread it would appear there just isn't a market for straight male escorts?!? Is it really the case that women don't want sex/companionship services from men, or do they just not go to AW? I had the idea in my head there would be bored/married women looking for some daytime fun and/or busy/business looking for dinner/event/companionship dates?

All the women I've met have liked what they have received, but before I commit anymore into this, am I kidding myself?

Any tips and pointers from you ladies (and male escorts if you're reading this!) around what I should charge, profile content, and where to advertise etc would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

BF

Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Mirror on 01 February 2019, 03:06:36 pm
Hi all

New to this site, after searching I thought I'd post here rather than clog up the main forum with a new thread.

I'm brand new to the game; a straight Male Escort covering South London & Surrey. I'm tall, VWE etc etc

I've had my AW profile up since the start of this year and in that month I've only had 5 'real' bookings. 2 from other escorts exchanging services FOC to get their ratings up (all good fun, but I'm doing this for money not for the fun), 1 from a single women, 1 from a single women who hasn't gone through with anything yet, and one from a husband who booked me to join him and his wife. Profile views are around 35-50 a day, but I'm assuming this is gay/bi men looking for men rather than women?!?

After reading this thread it would appear there just isn't a market for straight male escorts?!? Is it really the case that women don't want sex/companionship services from men, or do they just not go to AW? I had the idea in my head there would be bored/married women looking for some daytime fun and/or busy/business looking for dinner/event/companionship dates?

All the women I've met have liked what they have received, but before I commit anymore into this, am I kidding myself?

Any tips and pointers from you ladies (and male escorts if you're reading this!) around what I should charge, profile content, and where to advertise etc would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

BF

So you've actually only had 1 real booking?

The swapping services for feedback is very enlightening, did you pay the women anything or was it purely feed back exchanged?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: SimplySinful on 01 February 2019, 03:09:08 pm
No there isn’t a market for straight male escorts.

Largely because women can find sex anywhere (if they really wanted to) for free, and the same isn’t true for men.

Just the way it is I’m afraid. Unless you want to be gay for pay there’s not much you can do about it, as this massive long thread proves.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Bumblefly on 01 February 2019, 03:21:09 pm
So you've actually only had 1 real booking?
2 that have gone through with it (one single woman, one couple booked by the husband).

The swapping services for feedback is very enlightening, did you pay the women anything or was it purely feed back exchanged?
Purely for feedback, no money exchanged hands. We met, had some fun, and then exchanged honest reviews.

No there isn’t a market for straight male escorts.

Largely because women can find sex anywhere (if they really wanted to) for free, and the same isn’t true for men.

Just the way it is I’m afraid. Unless you want to be gay for pay there’s not much you can do about it, as this massive long thread proves.
That's the conclusion I'm coming too. I had hoped there would have been the need of a service for women who can't/won't go out and get it for free becasue they have commitments/ties and need discretion. This must be a very limited limited market though.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: xw5 on 01 February 2019, 04:22:14 pm
Let's put it this way: there are currently 5,082 straight men wanting to escort women on AW and in getting one booking from a woman you're ahead of at least five thousand of them.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Mirror on 01 February 2019, 04:52:38 pm
2 that have gone through with it (one single woman, one couple booked by the husband).
Purely for feedback, no money exchanged hands. We met, had some fun, and then exchanged honest reviews.
That's the conclusion I'm coming too. I had hoped there would have been the need of a service for women who can't/won't go out and get it for free becasue they have commitments/ties and need discretion. This must be a very limited limited market though.

Thanks for clarifying.

Did the review mention that payment didn't change hands, if it didn't it may not be quite 'honest'.

Yes there's very little market.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Wailing Banshee on 03 February 2019, 12:05:47 pm
It's a massive myth that the country is full of bored housewives looking to pay for sex! If a woman wants to get laid it's super easy if they join a swingers site. Equally, if someone is looking for a companion/date type service then they are going to go a bit more upscale than Adultwork!

Unless you are willing to see men you won't make a lot (if any) money.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Gina G on 03 February 2019, 12:13:55 pm
I've had my AW profile up since the start of this year and in that month I've only had 5 'real' bookings. 2 from other escorts exchanging services FOC to get their ratings up (all good fun, but I'm doing this for money not for the fun), 1 from a single women, 1 from a single women who hasn't gone through with anything yet, and one from a husband who booked me to join him and his wife. Profile views are around 35-50 a day, but I'm assuming this is gay/bi men looking for men rather than women?!?

Maybe put a link to your aw profile here and we can take a look to see if theres anything off putting on your ad. Please dont say you have cock shots on there as thats a big no no
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 03 February 2019, 12:56:04 pm
Maybe put a link to your aw profile here

Or maybe not, since we don't allow links on the forum and nor do we ask or expect posters here to identify themselves :)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Gina G on 03 February 2019, 01:53:41 pm
I thought we put links on our profile here. I have mine to my website. Do i need to take it off
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Gina G on 03 February 2019, 01:59:48 pm
Or maybe not, since we don't allow links on the forum and nor do we ask or expect posters here to identify themselves :)

Ive just re read what i originally wrote, sorry :) it was confusing. I meant put a link on his profile here  :)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Mirror on 03 February 2019, 02:44:15 pm
Ive just re read what i originally wrote, sorry :) it was confusing. I meant put a link on his profile here  :)

We can link to our own websites via our profile information here, but there's a rule we can't post external links in actual posts.

As I understand it one reason is to prevent a big search engine from picking it up (and lost of other reasons).
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Gina G on 03 February 2019, 03:13:11 pm
I didnt explain properly. I meant a link on his profile here like i have. I didnt mean to suggest posting a link on the thread itself and i fully understand the reasons why it isnt allowed x
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Missrosstoyou on 03 February 2019, 06:44:44 pm
I think there's a very small market and at least you've had 2 paid bookings. Not many women outside of escorts know what Adultwork is. I'd say continue but don't make it your main focus. Maybe a twitter but stay professional. No cock shots or flirting with escorts as you'll come across as a chancer.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Mirror on 03 February 2019, 07:45:22 pm
I didnt explain properly. I meant a link on his profile here like i have. I didnt mean to suggest posting a link on the thread itself and i fully understand the reasons why it isnt allowed x

Sorry I went a bit over the top.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Gina G on 03 February 2019, 08:14:46 pm
Sorry I went a bit over the top.
No you didnt. I should double check before i press post lol x
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Bumblefly on 04 February 2019, 09:33:10 am
I didnt explain properly. I meant a link on his profile here like i have. I didnt mean to suggest posting a link on the thread itself and i fully understand the reasons why it isnt allowed x
Thanks, I've done that. Awaits the "feedback"... 

stay professional. No cock shots or flirting with escorts as you'll come across as a chancer.
That's what I've tried to do. I found out very quickly that a lot of the time-waster messages and chancer bookings were when I had a cock-shot on show, having said that one of the actual bookings I had was because of the picture because they liked what they saw (I'm apparently VWE which is what some people are looking for, or so I'm told!), so perhaps I need to put it back up?!? ???

I need to get some new pics of me up, but apart from that I think the wording is ok, hopefully?
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: amy on 04 February 2019, 11:50:47 am
Thanks, I've done that. Awaits the "feedback"...

Which will be given via PM, since we're not here to pick people's ads to pieces in detail on the forum. Apart from anything else, the people are sex workers and not able to give useful feedback as lone female punters. I don't think any of us know where where they hang out, online or anywhere else.

That's what I've tried to do. I (I'm apparently VWE which is what some people are looking for, or so I'm told!)

They are, but the vast majority of those people will be men. I suspect most women find a bloke constantly banging on about how massive his dick is extremely tedious, especially when it's no indicator whatsoever that he'll have any idea what to do with it; I get enough of this twaddle in emails and texts from punters.

Why didn't you get the woman/couple who booked you to leave you feedback? All there is at the moment is some spectacularly unconvincing-looking rapid fire stuff from a couple of other prossies.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: TheLittleMatchGirl on 20 February 2019, 12:43:06 pm
It's a massive myth that the country is full of bored housewives looking to pay for sex! If a woman wants to get laid it's super easy if they join a swingers site. Equally, if someone is looking for a companion/date type service then they are going to go a bit more upscale than Adultwork!

Unless you are willing to see men you won't make a lot (if any) money.

This is what I was going to say, women I think are more likely to use dating sites like tinder for more casual or match etc for something more like companionship, I don’t think adultwork is at all appealing for women.
I also think the whole horny bored housewife is just a fantasy, a male fantasy.women in unhappy marriages I imagine are more inclined to have affairs/even just casual affairs rather than scouring   the internet searching prostitute sites, I don’t  mean to be offensive it’s just when you say it like that you can see how it just doesn’t ring true.
I can’t speak for others but as a woman I believe women want to feel desired and sexy when getting intimate with someone, and if there’s money changing hands then that isn’t possible
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Gina G on 20 February 2019, 01:17:18 pm
I think as time goes on it will become more 'acceptable for women to use service providers although i doubt it would ever be on the same scale as men and it certainly wont be with guys who have cock shots in their gallery. Maybe if they realised women need more mental stimulation and marketed themselves apropriately they might be on to something x
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: samcas on 18 August 2020, 09:31:01 am
It has been a hard 6 months for me and my BF. I lost 5 months of income and my BF was on short hours and has now been made redundant.
My income is now a lot lower due to reduced bookings. We have checked state benefit we can get and it is virtually nothing.

We have looked at the idea of him doing some escorting (we already offer a service as a couple - but this rarely gets a booking) and I'd be OK with him doing it (he accepts my job too). He is good looking, would appeal to a lot of women and would be good at the job (ie respectful and understanding to the client neeeds).

We looked on AW to see what the competition is in our area. There are quite a few guys offering services. BUT I'd say that 80% of the straight male service providers have no idea (no pictures or just porn style pics of dicks that won't work with women or just plain ugly and appear to be using the concept to get free sex). Most have no feedback and those that do seem to have feedback from female escorts - so we assume that the male paid. One of the feedbacks was actually written by me for a client who I thought was just a punter and who paid me - I had no idea at the time that they were supposed to be a male escort.

We have looked wider than our local area and have only found 2 with what could be considered genuine feedback from a paying female (even then, could be fake).

Is it that this area of personal service is done via different channels/web sites and not AW (which lets face it is really aimed at sex starved straight and gay men)? Agencies? Personal ad columns? Dating sites? Or is it a fact that straight women just don't pay men for sex?

Any advice or experience shared will be valued.
 
Thanks

Sammy
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Escortx on 18 August 2020, 09:53:36 am
I don’t think there is any women wanting to pay men for sex. Some men pay men for sex.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Kay on 18 August 2020, 11:54:01 am
It has been a hard 6 months for me and my BF. I lost 5 months of income and my BF was on short hours and has now been made redundant.
My income is now a lot lower due to reduced bookings. We have checked state benefit we can get and it is virtually nothing.

We have looked at the idea of him doing some escorting (we already offer a service as a couple - but this rarely gets a booking) and I'd be OK with him doing it (he accepts my job too). He is good looking, would appeal to a lot of women and would be good at the job (ie respectful and understanding to the client neeeds).

We looked on AW to see what the competition is in our area. There are quite a few guys offering services. BUT I'd say that 80% of the straight male service providers have no idea (no pictures or just porn style pics of dicks that won't work with women or just plain ugly and appear to be using the concept to get free sex). Most have no feedback and those that do seem to have feedback from female escorts - so we assume that the male paid. One of the feedbacks was actually written by me for a client who I thought was just a punter and who paid me - I had no idea at the time that they were supposed to be a male escort.

We have looked wider than our local area and have only found 2 with what could be considered genuine feedback from a paying female (even then, could be fake).

Is it that this area of personal service is done via different channels/web sites and not AW (which lets face it is really aimed at sex starved straight and gay men)? Agencies? Personal ad columns? Dating sites? Or is it a fact that straight women just don't pay men for sex?

Any advice or experience shared will be valued.
 
Thanks

Sammy

I honestly think you'll only get work if you offer MMF, cuckold meets etc. I do think some straight women pay for both sex and literally being escorted to events, but it is rare.
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: ana30 on 18 August 2020, 12:32:46 pm
Yes, women pay for sex, but because our brains are hardwired a bit different than mens we do it in a different way. I've met quite a few older ladies who had "younger male sugar handsome babies" who showered with gifts (sometimes money) in exchange of sex/companionship, couples that hired a guy for the wife were she was "more than happy" to engage in threesome etc... but a woman alone calling a stranger right of the bat from the internet to pay him in exchange for sex hmm.... very difficult. However... if your BF advertises on AW as a straight escort for couples he might have gotten some business in pre-covid times, not sure about now. He looses nothing by giving it a shot  ;)
Title: Re: Straight male escorts - the scammer's favourite myth
Post by: Dynamite Doll on 18 August 2020, 01:48:29 pm
Women do pay for sex hire male escorts but rarely use that Aw. It all depends on how you portray yourself market yourself. Look around some other sites and research on forums. It is common that women mature ladies do pay for it. Type male escort... add your area in search engine google see what comes up.
Branch out on other platforms to put your add on once you have seen examples of other male escorts one whom you are trying to target the type of mature client course not to copy them just and idea. Be clear in your content your straight etc if your fine with couple meets but to entertain the lady only etc. There is a market that just got to dig deep know where to place yourself on. Clothed pics, not images dick out etc. Good luck