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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Jade80 on 22 November 2017, 04:25:30 am
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I am an STD virgin. I get tested every 8wks etc.
My dilemma. I had a booking request from a really nice man. My issue is his last booking was with someone who I know for a fact had a serious STD , hepatitis C etc. She was ill for ages and in hospital. One of my clients is a doctor and says ?anyone those worked with her, or seen her should be shitting themselves?!
My concerns are how safe is it to meet him?
God I sound awful asking... I?m in no way judging the other girl. I don?t do BBever by the way . But do offer OWO?
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For one no doctor should be giving out confidential details of a patient! :o But if you're worried about owo I would use a condom and just say I had a sore throat so would rather be careful
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I think the Dr was commenting generally rather than being involved in the case...
HepC is serious but - unlike HepB - really difficult to catch sexually. It's blood that's almost inevitably involved, and typically it's HIV+ men having unprotected anal where sexual transmission happens.
So I don't know whether the doctor was reflecting the risks in caring for someone with it (needlestick injuries etc) or assuming that everyone doing sex work is an IV drug user...
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You don't have to see him since you know the lady was seriously ill.
He could be the carrier.
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How long has she had hep c?it would usually take 20+ years or extremely bad luck and other severe health issues for someone with hep c to end up in hospital for a long time because of it. Are you 110%she does and this isn't a rumour?
Hep c is a bbv that cannot easily be passed through sexual fluids, however risks are there if menstruating or blood/ trauma (not as rare as you would think, could be rough sex or an old shaving cut, gum disease etc).
I would say it is unlikely he would have caught it and then he would pass it on to you but why take the risk or do it if it causes you anxiety? I can't remember the stats on sexual transmission but they are tiny though not impossible.
I personally would say you will only do ow in this situation bc of someone he has seen before or just don't so the booming at all.
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How long has she had hep c?it would usually take 20+ years or extremely bad luck and other severe health issues for someone with hep c to end up in hospital for a long time because of it. Are you 110%she does and this isn't a rumour?
Hep c is a bbv that cannot be passed through sexual fluids, however risks are there if menstruating or blood/ trauma (not as rare as you would think, could be rough sex or an old shaving cut, gum disease etc).
I would say it is unlikely he would have caught it and then he would pass it on to you but why take the risk or do it if it causes you anxiety? I can't remember the stats on sexual transmission but they are tiny though not impossible.
I personally would say you will only do ow in this situation bc of someone he has seen before or just don't so the booming at all.
Hepatitis C is the most common type of viral hepatitis. It?s caused by a blood-borne virus that attacks the liver and is easily spread by sharing drug injecting equipment. It can also be spread through sex.
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Stages of hepatitis C infection
The first six months of infection with hepatitis C is called the ?acute? phase. Around 20-25% of people will clear the virus naturally during this time. (This percentage is lower for people co-infected with HIV.)
People who don?t clear the infection will enter the ?chronic? (or long-term) phase and can pass on hepatitis C to others.
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If I were you I wouldn't see him, because as the THT states, if the body doesn't clear it, then it becomes contagious, not sure where you got your info from HappyHooker, but I would follow the Terrence Higgins Trust info, as it is expert in sexual health
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Any uncertainty with your health that you are aware of a possible bad situation avoid it. It is not worth the risk even if a small chance of catching it.
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No offence to anyone involved here but this seems very simple to me, don't see him! Why put yourself through it? We turn down clients for all sorts of reasons without needing to explain and for a few ??? this does not seem worth the stress. I would not see him, no need to explain why.
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I?m not sure it?s hep c! I know it was a serious std that affects kidneys that?s all. The doctor btw is a client and no rwflectiin on any patient/doctor relations. He was told by another WG about it.he doesn?t even know the girl. It was about a year ago, so I can?t remember what the std was, my ignorance suggested hep C. Sorry.
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I did post a link on safe sex/condom use, not sure if it was "off" (put in out of context, put in a wrong thread, wasn't clear why posted it etc) and could well have been removed. It did have a paragraph on what you can catch regardless of condom use. Not sure hep B was part of it. Might be useful if saafe has got a resource section on safety & hygiene. :) But I know it's not fair to keep asking more stuff... :-X Personally, if someone declared that he has got this illness, and if you are not sure chances of having something else in this person would be? At least, he was honest and you can walk away. These illnesses can be very serious. If you think you would be ok...well...some googling might enlighten you.
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I never ever ever offer B/B and get testest so frequently I have as vip card. I?m seeing the doctor tomorrow so I?ll ask him about it again. Like I says this was last year. I may check if the girl offers BB on her orofile too, I don?t think it?s fsir to mention to the client that I know someone he sees had a serious std. that?s not my place or business . I have huge respect for everyone in our industry. Even though I know this girl happily chirps in on other forums slagging off girls. Two wrongs don?t make a right. Supporting each other is whst this site is about !
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I never ever ever offer B/B and get testest so frequently I have as vip card. I?m seeing the doctor tomorrow so I?ll ask him about it again. Like I says this was last year. I may check if the girl offers BB on her orofile too, I don?t think it?s fsir to mention to the client that I know someone he sees had a serious std. that?s not my place or business . I have huge respect for everyone in our industry. Even though I know this girl happily chirps in on other forums slagging off girls. Two wrongs don?t make a right. Supporting each other is whst this site is about !
Are you sure its kidneys and not liver
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Hep C affects the liver not kidneys.
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Def kidneys .... you are right!
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I not being funny here, but in your OP you stated you know for a fact this lady had a serious std, you don't know for a fact unless you are friends with her and she has told you herself. What you do know is what a gossiping client has told you.
Clients gossip and cause problems for all types of ladies, they get off on that. I wouldn't take anything a client tells me as a truth ever! Especially about another escort.
If I thought for 1 second a potential client of mine had been possibly exposed to an std it's a no brainier, he doesn't get the booking.
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Jade80 I'm sure it's liver x
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No no., pls don?t just die this for gossip, I?m not being stupid here. She has it in her Twitter acc.,that she?s been ill in hospital. Pictures of it. Dramatic weight loss. He blaming the guy etc!! I know for a fact it?s an std as she has spoken to my doc friend about it. Please do t think inwould ever say anything bad , regardless of hearsay etc,
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I?m simply asking a question as how to handle it. You know how it is.. say you?re not free and the abuse starts..
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I?m simply asking a question as how to handle it. You know how it is.. say you?re not free and the abuse starts..
My go to response for anyone I don't want to see is, "I am fully booked but if I get a cancellation would you like me to text you?" "I only take same day appointments, please call me on the day you like to visit" then avoid his call.
It's short, polite and non confrontational.
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Hepatitis C is the most common type of viral hepatitis. It?s caused by a blood-borne virus that attacks the liver and is easily spread by sharing drug injecting equipment. It can also be spread through sex.
My point was not that hcv wasn't contagious.
I am well aware of hcv, the stats and the fact it does NOT affect the kidneys, chronic hcv would not cause hospitalization quickly except in bizarre and extreme situations . My point was hep c seems unlikely to be the cause of the other girls hospitilisation and was the op sure it was hep c and not a malicious rumor she was told by the doctor/client.
I never said it was not contagious just mentioned I would not do the booking bc of risks from shaving,mild trauma etc and anxiety that booking causes but also as the chances were slim so it seems odd a doctor would say that and tell her a girl had an std and everyone should panic as that goes directly against not only him being a doctor but also given the chances of transmission by protected sex something a doctor would not say.
To me the whole thing sounds like gossip and a client trying to scare the op.
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Thanks happy hooker. But if you read my above post. The girl has even put on Twitter about her illness. Although not saying whst it was. There is no patient doctor confidentiality breach. The doctor I?m mentioning has no link professionally with her . X
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If she didn't say on twitter that it was Hep C, and she was suffering from a kidney issue, then it wasn't Hep C.
It's very hard to transmit it sexually. The vast majority of married people don't transmit it to their spouses, even though they've usually had the virus for years before diagnosis.
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Thanks happy hooker. But if you read my above post. The girl has even put on Twitter about her illness. Although not saying whst it was. There is no patient doctor confidentiality breach. The doctor I?m mentioning has no link professionally with her . X
Ok I confused now, did she say she was ill with kidney problems or that she has a std on her Twitter?
Because I have blogged about my kidney problems but I certainly don't have an std.
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No she didn?t say it on Twitter, but openly has to clients..
My post was never about has she, hasn?t she, I think we?ve all gone off the topic slightly. I was simply asking what to do re a booking who has seen someone suspected of such... there are reasons my beliefs are to be true. But it?s not for public sharing out of respect to the girl . X
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I?m not sure it?s hep c! I know it was a serious std that affects kidneys that?s all. The doctor btw is a client and no rwflectiin on any patient/doctor relations. He was told by another WG about it.he doesn?t even know the girl. It was about a year ago, so I can?t remember what the std was, my ignorance suggested hep C. Sorry.
Your so called doctor client, is totally shit stirring.
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but what STD would cause kidney problems ?
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Thanks for all your support. I?d be grateful to keep it to my original question. Once I know the facts. I can decide where to go from there. My post was never about what std?s do what or gossip (I know full well all about they, you?ve only got to look on punter forums to figure out our industry isn?t always polite). Once I know facts I can make my own mind up. We are all at risk of std?s. Getting tested is sometimes a pain. But essential to do frequently . X
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There are some research papers on Hep B virus and associated kidney disease when I looked.
Sometimes, there have been virus-related discussions on this site. I try to keep an eye on useful info on viruses which could be potentially transmitted via sex work.
Infection with hepatitis B virus (HBV) may be associated with a variety of renal diseases [1,2]. The three most common types of renal disease resulting from HBV infection are:
●Membranous glomerulonephritis
●Membranoproliferative glomerulonephritis (MPGN)
●Polyarteritis nodosa (PAN)
In addition, HBV infection has been associated with mesangial proliferative glomerulonephritis, IgA nephropathy, and amyloidosis.
I know someone, who had PAN, she nearly died from it. Didn't even know PAN was associated with Hep B. Besides, it's best not to get involved with "arguments". There is no point in "finding things out". Someone's serious disease is their private info, and that's none of other people's business.
If they are known for disputes, the best way is to stay away for your own safety.
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PID and a lot of sti's if left untreated can affect other organs.
I know because I had something nasty recently and G.P who doesn't know what I do suggested getting tested, I did but all clear but I did google what I had and found a lot of info about untreated sti 's shat myself as never had one !
Can't post too much detail on here but v painful and I did end up in hospital !