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Jen

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Starting a sex workers organization
« on: 18 June 2012, 03:42:50 am »
Hi there,

My name is Jen, and I'm writing for a little advice. I very much support the efforts of SAAFE, and am looking to start a similar organization in New York City. This organization would call for face-to-face meet ups and discussions so we can all look out for each other, but I'm not sure if members will be keen on the idea of meeting up for the sake of their discretion. Before I dive into starting this organization, I wanted to ask if you think the privacy issue will hinder what I'm trying to accomplish. Ultimately, I want to create a tight network of sex workers in the city so we can share information and create a better working environment for everyone. Any advice would be great. What issues do you foresee with this organization and what's the best way of going about it so members feel safe and comfortable? Thank you so much.

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Jen

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Re: Starting a sex workers organization
« Reply #1 on: 18 June 2012, 07:57:32 am »
One key point here might be that SAAFE is not an organisation, it's just a website full of articles and a forum for discussion.

There are organisations here in the UK (see the Sex Work Projects forum section, and also the Politics/Academics section), but they fulfil completely different goals to us. We just provide an online space where sex workers of all kinds can anonymously discuss the issues that affect them. We do not offer any "real life" support, though we do often recommend that certain posters get in touch with certain projects/outreach groups/healthcare providers if they have certain needs or requirements IRL.

Setting up a similar online space for US workers is a really good idea, but bear in mind that the moderation of any forum is a difficult task. You'll need to set strict rules and enforce them ruthlessly; people get so bonkers on the internet that an entire online community can be ripped to shreds with bickering and trolling and whatnot in a matter of hours. Sounds a bit dramatic, I know, but people are people and it doesn't matter whether it's a real life or internet-based group - keeping the peace is sometimes tricky but always vital.

Speaking as an individual sex worker, now: I don't attend any organised meetups with publicly advertised times/locations, because I am not "out" and so I would feel very vulnerable and afraid of being seen. I do try to meet other sex workers as much as I can but prefer it to be in much smaller numbers (like just a meetup of 2-3) and arranged privately so I can basically vet prospective friends in the same way I'd vet clients. I expect them to do the same with me! I really wouldn't be happy to trundle along to something in a publicised location where someone else had arranged everything. But that's me and definitely doesn't apply to everyone. I just thought I'd add that because it may be a concern if you want to set up an RL group - you'll probably have to focus on "out" sex workers, but that's fine.

I would probably start small with something like your idea, especially in the US. You don't want to attract too much attention as that could be risky. And, to speak very frankly here, many people who do sex work are slightly bonkers (same as any industry, really!); not people you would want to trust with sensitive information about yourself. But a network can start with one friendship and go from there. You don't need 100 members overnight! :)
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Re: Starting a sex workers organization
« Reply #2 on: 18 June 2012, 04:52:03 pm »
I would probably start small with something like your idea, especially in the US. You don't want to attract too much attention as that could be risky.

Yep, there is always going to be the worry about police interest (or even someone naming names as part of a plea bargaining process).

And, to speak very frankly here, many people who do sex work are slightly bonkers (same as any industry, really!)

A polite way of putting it :) is that it helps to have a certain 'I don't care what everyone else thinks, I am going to do it' attitude when it comes to doing sex work. That same attitude can be less than helpful when it comes to trying to work together - such groups tend not to attract the shy wallflowers (or at least, they don't go twice...) and for every one who wants to see the bigger picture, there will be one who is more interested in their own agenda.



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Re: Starting a sex workers organization
« Reply #3 on: 18 June 2012, 05:27:17 pm »
A polite way of putting it :) is that it helps to have a certain 'I don't care what everyone else thinks, I am going to do it' attitude when it comes to doing sex work. That same attitude can be less than helpful when it comes to trying to work together - such groups tend not to attract the shy wallflowers (or at least, they don't go twice...) and for every one who wants to see the bigger picture, there will be one who is more interested in their own agenda.

Quite - I could have pointed at myself as a good example of bonkers-ness there! I'll always do what I think is best for myself (without hurting anyone else, ideally) when it comes right down to it; if that wasn't the case, I probably wouldn't have gone into sex work at all because it might have been more 'virtuous' to slave away in my previous minimum wage jobs forever - but I chose freedom, independence and financial self-sufficiency despite the accompanying downsides. And while I really do want to help others, since I have been so lucky in many ways, I wouldn't actually put myself at risk to do so (unless perhaps I thought they were more at risk), which may be incredibly selfish of me. Anyway - that's just a rambly way to say that grouping sex workers is probably much like herding cats, yes. ;)
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