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Title: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: mySecret on 19 May 2018, 08:58:32 am
Good morning!
(I am not a proud smoker, i won t to promote smoking as well)

i would like just to share some tips between smokers. I am offering incall at my flat and i am smoking inside (even should not allowed)
anyway now my routine is like this before a booking..

i stop smoking 45 mins before a booking, put incense and i m opening the window (even in the winter), switch on the fan, put some bleach in the bathroom and go to have a shower...
during this time smocking smell is gone! i guarantee it!  ;D ;D

no good but sometimes when i am a bit under stress i would like never stop smocking... :-X

for outcall i m bringing my ecigarette and i am smoking less...which is good! but frustrating!

now, i do not tour usually even for it...but apparently you can smoke ecigarette in hotel room..tested with a punter.
when i did i looked for terrace, apartment or hotel with smoking room.
i am doing long booking at the moment..it is so frustrating because after 2hrs..i would like to smoke... :FF but i m supporting!
smoking ladies do you tour in hotel and you go outside to smoke?

how smoking affect your job?
Do you have any tips for remove smoking smell on you and at your place?
When you have request of a long booking do you say if you can smoke or you arrange only longer booking with smoker punter?
Do you write on your profile that you are a smoker..now i write Social smoker and do not affect my booking request even from not smoker.
thank you all if you can share some tips, how to handle it..
Smoking is not healthy, so do not start! you will regret! it is an addiction! difficult then to stop
if you stopped, let me know how you did! i would like asap but it is very very difficult!


hopefully and not with some clients i can smoke..but mostly they do not like..which i agree it is not nice cigarette smell!
Title: Re: smocking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: Iloveginandtonic on 19 May 2018, 10:53:49 am
I have smoked for the best part of 15 years :-( makes me sad saying that!

When touring I would smoke so much! Coffee and cigarettes went hand in hand!
I didn’t do much other than shower and brush teeth and mouth wash to mask the odour.

In December I changed to a vaping.  No more smell and can use inside!!!
Although I did set off a hotel smoke alarm once and had a load of hotel staff come running into my room! 

Before bookings I would sit puffing away at my vape... I realised it makes me feel incredibly anxious and jittery.

Earlier this week I binned my vape.  I am now just using the nicotine chewing gum.

I think that cigarettes can really trigger anxiety if you are prone to it.  And they really do not help stress.   Drinking lots of water and going for a walk I find is much more beneficial.

Linking this back to escorting...  now that I don’t smoke I can really smell any odour of cigarettes on my clients.  It actually makes me feel a little queasy.  So I imagine from a clients perspective if they are a non smoker the slightest odour of smoke could be off putting.  As smoker we become quite immune to the smell... so even when we can’t smell it... others who don’t smoke probably will!

Title: Re: smocking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: mySecret on 19 May 2018, 12:39:15 pm
I have smoked for the best part of 15 years :-( makes me sad saying that!

When touring I would smoke so much! Coffee and cigarettes went hand in hand!
I didn’t do much other than shower and brush teeth and mouth wash to mask the odour.

In December I changed to a vaping.  No more smell and can use inside!!!
Although I did set off a hotel smoke alarm once and had a load of hotel staff come running into my room! 

Before bookings I would sit puffing away at my vape... I realised it makes me feel incredibly anxious and jittery.

Earlier this week I binned my vape.  I am now just using the nicotine chewing gum.

I think that cigarettes can really trigger anxiety if you are prone to it.  And they really do not help stress.   Drinking lots of water and going for a walk I find is much more beneficial.

Linking this back to escorting...  now that I don’t smoke I can really smell any odour of cigarettes on my clients.  It actually makes me feel a little queasy.  So I imagine from a clients perspective if they are a non smoker the slightest odour of smoke could be off putting.  As smoker we become quite immune to the smell... so even when we can’t smell it... others who don’t smoke probably will!
absolutely i know! you are right! when stressed before a booking i am doing worst! and i think that affect a lot my anxiety! thank you
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: Treetop on 19 May 2018, 01:22:43 pm
I could be wrong but I've a feeling a non smoker would be able to smell cigarettes in an incall if smoking was within a few hours however much cleaning? Unless you knock them out with overpowering smells?

I smoke but I keep it too maybe one or two leaning far out the window at night if I've either had a drink or can't be bothered to go down stairs in my pjs, but my Windows are always open, I have the ambipure one that's super strong and in the morning I'll fully open the windows whatever the weather.
Because I don't smoke indoors  I am in and out all day smoking outside though (pretty sure neighbour thinks clients is me going for a fag), I'm near a huge green space so it's  fine until winter. Some clients HATE even the faintest smell of smoke. If I'm fully booked all day I use chewing gum and a nicotine patch as I don't smoke an hour before bookings but some days I don't have an hour's break. (Usually followed by a long walk chain smoking at the end of the day, but work really helps me cut down in the plus side) 

I'll also mention on tour vaping in hotels is likely to get you a fine. Big signs up in a well known chaim right now saying if caught vaping in room 100 quid fine.
Outcalls I struggle not too smoke before esp if I know it's a long one and stressing but I see it as part of this job to turn up fresh smelling. I'm always so so happy on long bookings when someone says do you mind if I go for a smoke? Just omg yes!

Also for stale smoke smell dry shampoo is amazing on hair before bookings. Works on coats as well as hair.
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: amy on 19 May 2018, 01:30:31 pm
I could be wrong but I've a feeling a non smoker would be able to smell cigarettes in an incall if smoking was within a few hours however much cleaning? Unless you knock them out with overpowering smells?

I'd agree with that and also that it doesn't matter how much Febreze you throw around - it's always there if somebody is smoking in a place regularly. I can smell it on people if they've had one that day however early it was, and even if they've just walked past people smoking outside on the way in to my work flat (I'm not far from a pub).

There's still a massive difference between somebody who might have had one cigarette outside a few hours ago and somebody who smokes indoors and heavily. I have a very strong sense of smell, gave up smoking years ago and I don't mind the former at all but the latter makes me feel physically sick. I wouldn't lie about not smoking if you do because it's pretty obvious, but that doesn't mean you can't make it clear that your incall isn't smoky/smelly and so on :).
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: seraphine on 19 May 2018, 01:54:31 pm
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Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: chocoholicgirl on 19 May 2018, 02:32:31 pm
I'd agree with that and also that it doesn't matter how much Febreze you throw around - it's always there if somebody is smoking in a place regularly. I can smell it on people if they've had one that day however early it was, and even if they've just walked past people smoking outside on the way in to my work flat (I'm not far from a pub).

There's still a massive difference between somebody who might have had one cigarette outside a few hours ago and somebody who smokes indoors and heavily. I have a very strong sense of smell, gave up smoking years ago and I don't mind the former at all but the latter makes me feel physically sick. I wouldn't lie about not smoking if you do because it's pretty obvious, but that doesn't mean you can't make it clear that your incall isn't smoky/smelly and so on :).

I'm one of those ex-smokers that really hates it now and believe me, you can not get rid of the smell, especially if you smoke indoors. It will linger in fabrics, towels, clothes, sofas, carpets and it doesn't matter if you haven't smoked inside for a while. Anyone who doesn't smoke will be able to tell a mile off. They may not all mind of course! But smokers who think they can open the window or spray a bit of air freshener, it won't get rid of it.

You can probably get away with the odd one outside but indoors it hangs around like hell.

I've had clients who obviously smoke but haven't had one for a while, then when I'm sucking their cock and they are breathing on me I can smell it on their breath...  :-X
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: Jessiegirl on 19 May 2018, 03:54:25 pm
I smoke too and work from my place. I do smoke indoors and manage to keep it smelling nice inside. Depends on the client. If they have commented about how they hate the smell of smoke I make sure I abstain before booking or go outside.
My fave client likes an after sex smoke which I love after an intense session.
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: Kay on 19 May 2018, 10:14:45 pm
I've had this debate before. Smokers think no one can tell they're a smoker; non-smokers can always pick it up, especially through kissing.

I know it's tough, but if you give up you'll save money, vastly improve your health and your complexion (in the future, if not now), and food will taste a lot nicer!
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: DaisyDuck on 20 May 2018, 06:07:45 am
Another ex-smoker who now vapes.

If you quit smoking you will be astounded when you realise what you used to smell like. Measures can be taken to reduce the smell, but not eliminate it.

I can tell with surprising accuracy how much someone smokes. I can tell if someone smokes 2 a day. I can tell if someone doesn't usually smoke, but they had a couple when drinking the night before.

Mouthwash works on those who smoke only a few a day. Any more than ten a day and mouthwash doesn't help. Their mouths become sticky after 5 minutes.

The smell permeates everything.

I vape everywhere. I never get caught. I use a standard ecig. The big ones, with the high power batteries that create big white clouds of vapour can set off some alarms (as can the steam from a shower). They will also leave more of the food flavouring odour lingering in the air.

There are ways to reduce the amount of vapour, including holding your breath for a while before exhaling, and exhaling down your collar. Trust me when I say that I get away with it: I've vaped on a couple dozen flights and never been caught.
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: mySecret on 20 May 2018, 07:06:40 am
I used to smoke in my incall place, which was a tiny teeny studio, and I smoked like a chimney, up to 2 packs a day at my 'prime'  :-X
So bad. The walls, and even my books turned yellow haha.
My routine was to burn a couple of incenses before a client's arrival. Never had a complaint from a client though. Bless them.

I managed to quit 1st January 2016 - main motivation was badly deteriorating looks (skin + teeth; I was also drinking energy drinks like it was water) and my life was just unmanageable - I kept on smoking all the time, it was like an excuse not to do anything in life  :(

yeah i can confirm, i do since years it and never punters smells cigarettes! i have a huge window and bleach, incense, my perfume on me work well! i guarantee it..not need more
sometimes i burnt lemon on the grill or an orange work wonder as well
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: mySecret on 20 May 2018, 07:11:12 am
I could be wrong but I've a feeling a non smoker would be able to smell cigarettes in an incall if smoking was within a few hours however much cleaning? Unless you knock them out with overpowering smells?

I smoke but I keep it too maybe one or two leaning far out the window at night if I've either had a drink or can't be bothered to go down stairs in my pjs, but my Windows are always open, I have the ambipure one that's super strong and in the morning I'll fully open the windows whatever the weather.
Because I don't smoke indoors  I am in and out all day smoking outside though (pretty sure neighbour thinks clients is me going for a fag), I'm near a huge green space so it's  fine until winter. Some clients HATE even the faintest smell of smoke. If I'm fully booked all day I use chewing gum and a nicotine patch as I don't smoke an hour before bookings but some days I don't have an hour's break. (Usually followed by a long walk chain smoking at the end of the day, but work really helps me cut down in the plus side) 

I'll also mention on tour vaping in hotels is likely to get you a fine. Big signs up in a well known chaim right now saying if caught vaping in room 100 quid fine.
Outcalls I struggle not too smoke before esp if I know it's a long one and stressing but I see it as part of this job to turn up fresh smelling. I'm always so so happy on long bookings when someone says do you mind if I go for a smoke? Just omg yes!

Also for stale smoke smell dry shampoo is amazing on hair before bookings. Works on coats as well as hair.

yes, what i was thinking but apparently alarms are not set up yet for ecigarette! then depend about hotel.
with a client last time we share a cigarette in a hotel in Central London..and nothing happen close to the smoke alarm and he confirmed to me that he always smoke inside! so i was thinking..i can finally tour..at least for now, maybe hotels they are going to change systems soon...
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: mySecret on 20 May 2018, 07:13:46 am
I've had this debate before. Smokers think no one can tell they're a smoker; non-smokers can always pick it up, especially through kissing.

I know it's tough, but if you give up you'll save money, vastly improve your health and your complexion (in the future, if not now), and food will taste a lot nicer!

yes, and less money for hygienist as well to remove marks between coffee and cigarettes is a disastrer ... lol
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: Mirror on 20 May 2018, 07:18:27 am
I've had this debate before. Smokers think no one can tell they're a smoker; non-smokers can always pick it up, especially through kissing.

I know it's tough, but if you give up you'll save money, vastly improve your health and your complexion (in the future, if not now), and food will taste a lot nicer!

I do with clients I'm not repelled unless they are extremely heavy smokers - only had problems with perhaps 2 or 3 clients in over 10 years.

Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: Guiltypleasure on 20 May 2018, 08:04:41 am
I can open fully any hotel window( Houdini)  put curtains behind me and blow out window through kitchen roll holder ( I'm hanging out anyway) but only in a bathrobe never clothes and then I dryshampoo hair brush teeth clean hands and mouthwash.

I've had a number of guys comment on the fact " I don't smoke because they can tell" I just say yes I do but I'm fussy about it .

I spray curtains before I leave even though it's not been on them .
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: Mirror on 20 May 2018, 08:15:48 am
Still on the topic of smoking clients, I had a very long booking with someone who smoked in his non-smoking hotel room. I think my persecution complex kicked in a bit, he also pushed my alcohol rule boundary so did find it difficult to relax.
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: amy on 20 May 2018, 10:01:45 am
he confirmed to me that he always smoke inside!
someone who smoked in his non-smoking hotel room.

They sound lovely.
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: mySecret on 20 May 2018, 10:05:35 am
I can open fully any hotel window( Houdini)  put curtains behind me and blow out window through kitchen roll holder ( I'm hanging out anyway) but only in a bathrobe never clothes and then I dryshampoo hair brush teeth clean hands and mouthwash.

I've had a number of guys comment on the fact " I don't smoke because they can tell" I just say yes I do but I'm fussy about it .

I spray curtains before I leave even though it's not been on them .

thank you for this!
i admit when i did outcall i taken a lot of time to select a hotel for it! i do not like that..i do not like because life is more difficult!
when i found out one ok i stick with it! worked ok! i want to come back to tour just to change environment and maybe increase more income...and i liked some days hotel life..ahah not need to clean my flat and i enjoyed to go the pool, to the gym, ...
in hotel i m feeling a bit different!

some hotel (at least in my experience)...windows are closed! i asked to open saying i m claustrophobic...what i am ready to do to smoke!  :FF :FF the monster
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: amy on 20 May 2018, 10:16:22 am
Why don't the people who want to smoke in hotels and have lost the power in their legs to the extent that they're unable to go outside just book ones with smoking rooms, or even balconies so you can at least go out of the room?

I don't want to turn up at a hotel and open my room door to get a whiff, however faint, of rank cigarette smoke and just because a cleaner (who might themselves smoke) didn't pick it up; smoke/fire alarms usually don't (because one cigarette doesn't usually produce enough smoke to set them off) and it happens more often than you might think. I moved rooms at a nice hotel.a few months ago because whilst the room was spotless, as soon as I put my head on the pillow I could smell cigarettes and it was absolutely foul.

Maybe somebody who knows could knock up a list of hotels/hotel chains who still have smoking rooms, although not for the public board, obviously :).
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: mySecret on 20 May 2018, 01:07:21 pm
Why don't the people who want to smoke in hotels and have lost the power in their legs to the extent that they're unable to go outside just book ones with smoking rooms, or even balconies so you can at least go out of the room?

I don't want to turn up at a hotel and open my room door to get a whiff, however faint, of rank cigarette smoke and just because a cleaner (who might themselves smoke) didn't pick it up; smoke/fire alarms usually don't (because one cigarette doesn't usually produce enough smoke to set them off) and it happens more often than you might think. I moved rooms at a nice hotel.a few months ago because whilst the room was spotless, as soon as I put my head on the pillow I could smell cigarettes and it was absolutely foul.

Maybe somebody who knows could knock up a list of hotels/hotel chains who still have smoking rooms, although not for the public board, obviously :).

will be great! Thank you! btw smoking room are not garantee..at least in my experience with a hotel chain in Central London. at the moment of check in if there is one available they will give to you, you can not book it in advance...unless you are in a 5stars hotel! like Landmark hotel!
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: Guiltypleasure on 20 May 2018, 03:34:58 pm
They sound lovely.
That's what I thought and your hair clothes would stink , I wear a suit for work so wear more than once I would be well pissed off lol
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: Serendipity on 21 May 2018, 11:22:06 am
Don’t mean to be rude, but your none smoking customers will know you’re a smoker. I’m an ex smoker and it’s very very obvious when someone smokes. Even if you’ve showered and put a fresh set of clothes on. The smell is impossible to get rid of from your mouth. More importantly they will know if you’ve smoked indoors - even if you’ve aired the room our for a couple of days prior and used candles etc. The smell clings to the walls and furniture.
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: MARIPOSA 76 on 24 May 2018, 08:36:37 am
I smoke all day in my flat, but I use tobacco with rolling small paper, those have less smell, I use ashtrays that keep the ashes inside.
  I open doors and windows every time I can, I throw olio three, sprait perfume for the house, before each client,
I wash my mouth with colgate and olio three , I throw perfume on my body and there are many people who imagine that I do not smoke because I always try to have all my flat, clean, ventilated and perfumed ...... :angel:
  In the hotel, it's just a nightmare for me 'without being able to smoke inside. I have worked in a hotel once and I do not think I will ever come back, I prefer to do work tours in apartments and flat that allow me to smoke in peace  ::)
I just love smoking and drink a coffee is a delight of paradise  :-* With the trick of olio three three, a good oral cleaning, the smell of tobacco goes unnoticed ....  8)
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: lisa30 on 24 May 2018, 10:08:10 am
I have a separate set of clothes I use for going out for snokes including a hoodie to keep my hair from smelling. Wouldn't smoke in room I hate the smell. My last apartment had balcony. It was bliss.

I agree with Maripisa I smoke Rollie's and the smell doesn't linger as much a the tips do.
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: seraphine on 22 June 2018, 11:01:03 am
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Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: mySecret on 22 June 2018, 12:29:40 pm
I thought I'll add here my latest finding - an alternative to incense sticks.
You can buy resins and put them on top of a little burner, pour oil on them, put a tealight underneath.
The smell is intense and divine, very different to incense sticks and there is no smoke.
Tealights that I'm using last for around 6-7 hours (I buy them from Amazon).

It won't get rid of cigarette smell but it creates a nice ambience :)
Some resins are stronger than other. They last for quite a while.

thank you! i will check out on amazon, i do not have idea what they are! xx thank you!
Title: Re: Smoking tips incall/outcall/hotel tour
Post by: nemature on 25 June 2018, 01:29:54 pm
Why don't the people who want to smoke in hotels and have lost the power in their legs to the extent that they're unable to go outside just book ones with smoking rooms, or even balconies so you can at least go out of the room?

I don't want to turn up at a hotel and open my room door to get a whiff, however faint, of rank cigarette smoke and just because a cleaner (who might themselves smoke) didn't pick it up; smoke/fire alarms usually don't (because one cigarette doesn't usually produce enough smoke to set them off) and it happens more often than you might think. I moved rooms at a nice hotel.a few months ago because whilst the room was spotless, as soon as I put my head on the pillow I could smell cigarettes and it was absolutely foul.

I am with Amy on this went to a hotel in my civvie life at the weekend and had to move rooms due to being able to smell smoke. I have never smoked and refuse to kiss anyone who has because no matter what they have done you can taste it on their breath. I have friends who smoke and I can smell it in their homes even though they are very clean in fact I can stand behind someone in a supermarket and I know if they smoke due to the smell from their clothes.
A lot of smokers think they can hide/get rid of the smell but that is only because they are so used to the smell that they do not notice it anymore. Sorry ladies but I think I would be able to tell if you smoked even if you used your odour reducing measures

Maybe somebody who knows could knock up a list of hotels/hotel chains who still have smoking rooms, although not for the public board, obviously :).