Author Topic: Security (Read 2918 times)

chlo89 · « **on:** 23 December 2016, 08:15:45 pm »

Hey. I was wondering how everyone found their security? I'd like one - two security guards to ensure I am safe, especially because I work from home, been doing this almost a year and I've never had security. Quite a few things have happened but, how is person protecting you supposed to know if a guy is pinning you down and raping you with his hand over your mouth? It is a serious question. This can occur and what would be the point in having security if they can't help you? Also what sort of prices etc do they charge?

barbie88 · « **Reply #1 on:** 23 December 2016, 08:54:45 pm »

Hi Hun

When I worked for agencies I had drivers but wouldn't say they were ever much help but they used to offer a security service to girls privately . I have used drivers for the odd outcall when I worked from home . They always asked me to call them when I was in and safe and when I left also they made sure the customer new I was being dropped off I think some times them knowing some ones outside makes them think other wise but like you said if some ones a nutter and is going up harm us they will do it regardless of security . I used to pay my driver 20 to 30 for first hour then tenna after .

My friend works from home she is quite busy she has a security guy sit in her lounge and having one there has benefitted her loads she said she said when it's dead it's stressful having to pay out for him but having him there has saved her from a few near scrapes .

VoluptuousCurves · « **Reply #2 on:** 23 December 2016, 11:51:47 pm »

This is going to sound horribly cliched, but your best security system is your instinct.

The minute you smell anything "off" about a client, abort the meeting. Including when you have already let them in the door. Fake an attack of diarrhea, give them their money back and get them out.

If you choose to have a security guy on premises (I have never done this so take it with a pinch of salt) I'd set up a hidden baby monitor between the bedroom and wherever your security guy sits. As long as he's hearing "oooh yeah" noises, he sits where he is. If he hears "What the fuck" or "Code red" or whatever then he comes and knocks on the door. You have a pre-arranged "ok" signal like "copacetic". If he doesn't hear that then he comes in.

At any incall or outcall I do, I have a deodorant spray within arms reach. It's not mace, but it will certainly incapacitate anyone if sprayed in their eyes.

I'd recommend reading Gavin de Boeker's book "The Gift of Fear". It's about how to learn to trust your instincts and how to spot danger signs. Honestly I think every woman should read it!

ParisB · « **Reply #3 on:** 24 December 2016, 01:53:27 am »

I second what VC has wrote. 100 percent
Trust your instincts and never get swayed by the money offered and try to ::)have some money behind you so that you don't have to take a booking you don't want to but need the money

chlo89 · « **Reply #4 on:** 24 December 2016, 09:50:22 am »

Thank you for all your replies, I have told guys in the past that were off to leave but some did not start to do things until the booking had already started. One being a speculum, I don't want to talk about this and I couldn't take it out myself in case I caused damage, it wasn't consensual, that isn't the first thing that's happened but I'm sure you are all aware of things that can happen and you've experienced yourself. I think it's time I get security in, I can't risk anything happening again. The last incident was last Friday, it wasn't as bad as the previous but it's still assault regardless as I'd told him on the phone this would not take place, when he got here and I told him to stop doing it and don't even try it, when I knew he was going to but it didn't stop him. I'm not really sure where to look for security guards, I need one that has experience in this field and that's non-judgmental. The monitor would be good to have, I always thought about that when I get a security guard.

Thanks again

VoluptuousCurves · « **Reply #5 on:** 24 December 2016, 11:27:32 am »

Sorry you had those experiences Chlo, that's horrible. Maybe worth posting a warning here on SAAFE and/or reporting to Ugly Mugs? I'm assuming the latter guy you refer to was after anal - I now have a rule that if someone asks for anal on the phone, I won't take a booking with them at all, far too many boundary pushers.

Do you have set hours and days you work? So would you want security all day or more on a "I'll ring if I need you" basis? I'm guessing your main problem in terms of recruitment is going to be guys who want to be paid with a shag

chlo89 · « **Reply #6 on:** 24 December 2016, 11:49:16 am »

Quote from: VoluptuousCurves on 24 December 2016, 11:27:32 am

Sorry you had those experiences Chlo, that's horrible. Maybe worth posting a warning here on SAAFE and/or reporting to Ugly Mugs? I'm assuming the latter guy you refer to was after anal - I now have a rule that if someone asks for anal on the phone, I won't take a booking with them at all, far too many boundary pushers.

Do you have set hours and days you work? So would you want security all day or more on a "I'll ring if I need you" basis? I'm guessing your main problem in terms of recruitment is going to be guys who want to be paid with a shag

The problem is, some was 6 months ago -the speculum guy and some a few months ago so I don't have their phone number anymore as I took a brief break and got rid of the sim card. The more recent one was last week.

Basically atm, I CAN'T offer penetration, I've had a Pelvic infection since May (not related to an STI as have been tested 3 times since and clear) which I've started treatment for again. So ANY form of penetration, whether it's fingering or intercourse is PAINFUL as HELL. Even just a little slip of the finger is excruciating and very painful for days following. The no penetration is on my profile, on every tab of my profile, so excuses and I always ensure guys understand this before booking an appt. In fact, I TRIPLE check they're ok with this, even when they arrive.

So last Friday, this guy calls me asking for an hour .Yes fine, turns up late but hey. I told him over the phone NO penetration which INCLUDES FINGERING AND SEX -Some guys don't seem to understand this LOL. We were in the 69 position and I could feel his hands going towards my bum and vagina, I told him NO STOP MOVE YOUR HAND. Then he proceeds to slip his finger inside my vagina, I told him STOP IT, I TOLD YOU NO PENETRATION, he said sorry then he did it again and again. Yes it wasn't a full fingering session, it wasn't even the full length of his finger but it's STILL PENETRATION, his finger still WENT INSIDE ME. So I got off him and just gave him oral so he couldn't touch me. The pain was intense and the next day I could not move from the pain. This was not ok. He was rude throughout the session and disrespectful but I can deal with that.

I would offer sex but there's no point when it causes me unbearable pain and suffering, just for money.

I do work set hours but it varies, if I get an email, I'll work usually even if I wasn't going to, so it would be more a case of once the booking is confirmed, then make sure the guard is here before hand, ya know?

I hope you all understand why I don't offer penetration atm. Am quite worried about being judged. It hasn't made a difference to work as I find most guys prefer it anyway!

Chlo x

VoluptuousCurves · « **Reply #7 on:** 24 December 2016, 12:17:44 pm »

Oh gosh, that sounds horribly painful

Poor you.

If you just want a security guy on an ad hoc basis, I'd look for someone who's retired, so will be available mainly when you want him.

kitty_69 · « **Reply #8 on:** 24 December 2016, 12:30:22 pm »

nobody as a right to judge you for the service you offer

you could try putting/looking a ad on viva street ?

mature helen · « **Reply #9 on:** 24 December 2016, 03:41:45 pm »

Quote from: chlo89 on 24 December 2016, 11:49:16 am

The problem is, some was 6 months ago -the speculum guy and some a few months ago so I don't have their phone number anymore as I took a brief break and got rid of the sim card. The more recent one was last week.

Basically atm, I CAN'T offer penetration, I've had a Pelvic infection since May (not related to an STI as have been tested 3 times since and clear) which I've started treatment for again. So ANY form of penetration, whether it's fingering or intercourse is PAINFUL as HELL. Even just a little slip of the finger is excruciating and very painful for days following. The no penetration is on my profile, on every tab of my profile, so excuses and I always ensure guys understand this before booking an appt. In fact, I TRIPLE check they're ok with this, even when they arrive.

So last Friday, this guy calls me asking for an hour .Yes fine, turns up late but hey. I told him over the phone NO penetration which INCLUDES FINGERING AND SEX -Some guys don't seem to understand this LOL. We were in the 69 position and I could feel his hands going towards my bum and vagina, I told him NO STOP MOVE YOUR HAND. Then he proceeds to slip his finger inside my vagina, I told him STOP IT, I TOLD YOU NO PENETRATION, he said sorry then he did it again and again. Yes it wasn't a full fingering session, it wasn't even the full length of his finger but it's STILL PENETRATION, his finger still WENT INSIDE ME. So I got off him and just gave him oral so he couldn't touch me. The pain was intense and the next day I could not move from the pain. This was not ok. He was rude throughout the session and disrespectful but I can deal with that.

I would offer sex but there's no point when it causes me unbearable pain and suffering, just for money.

I do work set hours but it varies, if I get an email, I'll work usually even if I wasn't going to, so it would be more a case of once the booking is confirmed, then make sure the guard is here before hand, ya know?

I hope you all understand why I don't offer penetration atm. Am quite worried about being judged. It hasn't made a difference to work as I find most guys prefer it anyway!

Chlo x

That comment brings up red flags to me,

You as the professional should ALWAYS insist on be treated with respect. Conduct yourself on the phone and in person as a SW that doesn't tolerate bad behaviour, be in charge of the booking and be an experienced prostitute not a sexual doormat who thinks verbal and/or physical disrespect is acceptable.

Heighten your screening so they know you are not a pushover prepared to take BS treatment for cash. EVER!.

High screening will weed out lowlifes with bad attitudes.

If you carry on accepting this kind of lowlife punter you may well find yourself in all sorts of uncomfortable predicaments, I may sound harsh but I'm coming from a place of concern.

Regarding your dilemma with penetration if I were you I'd offer a BJ and HR I'd not offer 69's as its too compromising so I'd work with knickers that way they couldn't touch my vag or slip a snide finger in.

Mirror · « **Reply #10 on:** 24 December 2016, 04:20:07 pm »

Unfortunately there are clients who need it spelled out, they get it in their heads that "she'll like it once I start or once I'm there", I've had a battle with someone who is of the opinion that all women like anal, he does, and if I climax with his hand near my bum that means I want anal stimulation. He also delights in telling me my bum opens up in certain positions, which to me sounds like he's trying to 'persuade' me I want it.

Being assertive, and stopping them in their tracks is definitely the way forward.

Luciexx · « **Reply #11 on:** 24 December 2016, 05:45:50 pm »

Quote from: mature helen on 24 December 2016, 03:41:45 pm

I may sound harsh but I'm coming from a place of concern.

Regarding your dilemma with penetration if I were you I'd offer a BJ and HR I'd not offer 69's as its too compromising so I'd work with knickers that way they couldn't touch my vag or slip a snide finger in.

I agree with Helen & Mirror. I'm not sure if your price is set lower than average GFE price to show that no penetration. If it isn't, men may assume that these are included even if you tell them you wouldn't do them. They just assume it. If your price is lower than average GFE price then they (if not every client) will try to see if they could get away with it e.g. fingering etc. If you have a pelvic infection, would it be a good idea to allow someone to go down on you (passing germs into it)?

Kay · « **Reply #12 on:** 24 December 2016, 07:57:11 pm »

Helen speaks a lot of sense. It's by no means foolproof, but it does sound like you need to tighten your phone screening procedures?

barbie88 · « **Reply #13 on:** 24 December 2016, 10:58:13 pm »

Yeh I 100 percent agree we need to go with our guts ladies that's the best way if we get the slightest feeling then we shouldn't accept the booking but you can't be 100 percent sure no ones screening can be 100 percent many nutters slip threw the net all we can do is do a best but we are never going to be 100 percent sure . They could sound lovely on the phone but in person try and attack you you can never be sure .

All we can do is go with our gut but if hiring a security makes you feel safer than do it Hun . I only work in hotels even tho I make more money in apartments I just don't feel safe in them working .

You do need the point stuff out to them make it perfectly clear what you do and what you don't if they try it then there out . I mean they will some times try take the mick it's just saying it straight what you Do and what you don't .

Take care babe stay safe xx

losthope · « **Reply #14 on:** 25 December 2016, 12:39:07 am »

Quote from: mature helen on 24 December 2016, 03:41:45 pm

That comment brings up red flags to me,

You as the professional should ALWAYS insist on be treated with respect. Conduct yourself on the phone and in person as a SW that doesn't tolerate bad behaviour, be in charge of the booking and be an experienced prostitute not a sexual doormat who thinks verbal and/or physical disrespect is acceptable.

Heighten your screening so they know you are not a pushover prepared to take BS treatment for cash. EVER!.

High screening will weed out lowlifes with bad attitudes.

If you carry on accepting this kind of lowlife punter you may well find yourself in all sorts of uncomfortable predicaments, I may sound harsh but I'm coming from a place of concern.

Regarding your dilemma with penetration if I were you I'd offer a BJ and HR I'd not offer 69's as its too compromising so I'd work with knickers that way they couldn't touch my vag or slip a snide finger in.

To avoid the fingers, kneel at the side of them with your bum cocked up but legs closed and tell them to grab your bum.... say you like it, they will too

See also the main SAAFE.info site for more Support And Advice For Escorts

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