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Title: Rude Punters
Post by: OverTheHill on 19 February 2025, 06:10:09 pm
I’m just finishing up my tour and I’ve had two potential clients be really rude.

In both cases they have received my autoresponse because I’ve been in bookings and have responded with “Fuck Off.”

Ive been in the industry for years and I’ve honestly never had this happen.

Do you ladies think punters are becoming more rude/aggressive?

Obviously I’ve blocked them but it’s so unnecessary!
Title: Re: Rude Punters
Post by: MissElvira on 19 February 2025, 06:43:39 pm
I don't even reply until out of bookings, I use to get nasty messages but not so much lately. I tend to get the usual TW message me or try and video calk me on WhatsApp. Just lucky that those rude men don't get to see you, I block most that I feel would be dodgy to see.
Title: Re: Rude Punters
Post by: Nancy_Rose on 22 February 2025, 10:54:05 pm
I’m just finishing up my tour and I’ve had two potential clients be really rude.

In both cases they have received my autoresponse because I’ve been in bookings and have responded with “Fuck Off.”

Ive been in the industry for years and I’ve honestly never had this happen.

Do you ladies think punters are becoming more rude/aggressive?


Obviously I’ve blocked them but it’s so unnecessary!

Yes, yes they are. This has been a problem for the last couple of years and progressively getting worse (at least, this has been the case in my location and surrounding areas). It's not just rudeness and aggressiveness either, it's entitlement, unrealistic expectations, and being a lot more difficult to please these days.
There's also more and more of them turning up with various erectile dysfunction problems.

I think there are serious social issues at the moment (a lot of them gendered and social media influenced) and it filters through to us on the front-line. We just need to hold the line and hold our boundaries tighter than ever.
Screen. Screen. Screen.
And don't be scared to turn them down if there's even a hint of bad attitude.
Title: Re: Rude Punters
Post by: Mirror on 23 February 2025, 09:07:51 am
I've been inThe Biz 18 years, I've almost always had very rude and or demanding  punters contacting me, some might not even be punters as such. What I have noticed is during the pandemic there was a period of about 2 years when enquiries were very aggressive, and at the same time regulars unreliable. All seem to have calmed down now, back to normalish BUT the biggest difference compared to say 10 years ago is the sheer laziness of enquiries, so many 'are u free', 'You about?' some dress it up with kisses but pretty much the same.

Also the level of cross platform contact, but there was always some element of this, and the reliance (not me) on what can be misleading AW feedback.

Lots of gaslighting making it difficult to know who to engage with, this does make those who absolutely can put together a decent enquiry look absolutely amazing,
Title: Re: Rude Punters
Post by: OverTheHill on 23 February 2025, 10:12:50 am
Yes, I agree with all of this.

So many with erectile dysfunction now! ( I sacked off a long term reg because of his stinking attitude about this on the thread When Regs Go Bad).

The approach has definitely changed in the 11 years I’ve been in working in the industry and the men are LAZY. I just block everyone who contacts me in this fashion and yes, it makes decent enquiries look ‘amazing.’

But it’s so rare to be told to “Fuck Off” and especially after a polite response (or maybe I’ve just been lucky).

As for AW feedback, to coin a phrase, ‘It’s not worth the paper it’s written on.’ Some of THE WORST punters I’ve ever seen have great feedback, which is why I no longer answer their damn emails. I’ve no time for AW hobbyists.

We have a lot in common, Mirror  :)
Title: Re: Rude Punters
Post by: Clarabella on 23 February 2025, 12:16:43 pm
It’s getting very difficult to get a decent, easy going and pleasant client these days. They certainly do need to adjust their expectations. They want far too much. I’m so boundaried now. I’ve stopped being too nice!

Had someone text me today. I replied politely and gave instructions on when to call. Not seen him before and he replied with, “Alright. Cool.”  I mean, what’s so difficult being polite and saying saying thank you, I shall? Manners cost nothing. I do t care if I’ve done myself out of money by blocking him.
Title: Re: Rude Punters
Post by: OverTheHill on 23 February 2025, 01:00:15 pm
It’s getting very difficult to get a decent, easy going and pleasant client these days. They certainly do need to adjust their expectations. They want far too much. I’m so boundaried now. I’ve stopped being too nice!

Had someone text me today. I replied politely and gave instructions on when to call. Not seen him before and he replied with, “Alright. Cool.”  I mean, what’s so difficult being polite and saying saying thank you, I shall? Manners cost nothing. I do t care if I’ve done myself out of money by blocking him.

I’d have blocked him too. ‘Alright. Cool’ = rude timewaster.
Title: Re: Rude Punters
Post by: E_FitGirl on 23 February 2025, 01:18:09 pm
What is going on with the ED issues?? Even with young clients, is this due to porn addiction? I am regularly seeing clients lose erection during the booking..usually they work with me with this but some have the cheek to blame me?! Am I a GP now aswell hahaha
Title: Re: Rude Punters
Post by: matureho on 23 February 2025, 02:16:57 pm
What is going on with the ED issues?? Even with young clients, is this due to porn addiction? I am regularly seeing clients lose erection during the booking..usually they work with me with this but some have the cheek to blame me?! Am I a GP now aswell hahaha

Too much porn & coke
Title: Re: Rude Punters
Post by: burly burlesque on 23 February 2025, 02:55:29 pm
The ED thing I definitely recognise. I'm not sure if they are more rude or not, but I know my expectations have shifted in recent years and I am far more intolerant of the casual chauvinism, and lazy, entitled, rude, behaviour displayed by some of the  guys who contact escorts. The idea that these guys think they should be able to get a paid date with a woman in a historically dangerous job, off the back of a lazy written message without giving me a name, a deposit, some notice and some basic courtesy is wild to me. There are some conscientious, socially capable gents out there I'd rather focus on. Financially poor for it, spiritually better off.
Title: Re: Rude Punters
Post by: Fifi on 23 February 2025, 08:09:57 pm
Too much porn

Yes I've been reading up on this recently.

The overuse of porn is making it harder for them to get aroused in a "natural" situation. In addition, some of the extreme scenarios in porn give unrealistic expectations and can spark fetishism.
Title: Re: Rude Punters
Post by: amy on 23 February 2025, 08:14:36 pm
The all out rude messages aren't anything new as anybody who used to advertise in the newspapers will testify (and nor is the too much wanking; we've had threads on here about the death grip for as long as I can remember), but I think the overly casual/lazy ones are definitely more common - no proper greeting, nothing to indicate they've read the ad and so on.

I don't have that many hoops for them to jump through, but I expect to be addressed politely and by name (I don't care about their name) and I want to know when they want to book and for how long - that's literally it. So many can't even get that right (the 'babe' texts go straight in the bin along with the 'I'm white and English' muppets).

What doesn't seem to occur to them is that we have nothing else to go on bar their opener, so if that opener makes them sound thick, rude, pushy or otherwise twattish then that's hardly likely to make us want to shut ourselves in a room with them, is it? For that reason alone it amazes me they can't even grit their teeth and try to be polite for a couple of minutes, since presumably they're trying to convince us to do what they want.
Title: Re: Rude Punters
Post by: Nancy_Rose on 23 February 2025, 10:32:10 pm
Yes I've been reading up on this recently.

The overuse of porn is making it harder for them to get aroused in a "natural" situation. In addition, some of the extreme scenarios in porn give unrealistic expectations and can spark fetishism.

Yes, this^ regarding the porn and ED. I have a friend who works as a psychosexual therapist locally and he says he's seeing the same trend over the last few years (which was reassuring because I was starting to think it was just me losing my touch  ;D )
There are more and more men showing up in his practice with porn and social media induced ED and the biggest increase is, worryingly, in the 18 - 30 age bracket. He reckons the younger generation are more prone to social anxiety issues because of living their lives online so much, and obviously porn skews perceptions of what real sex is supposed to be like.
I don't expect that's something that will get better any time soon and we're probably likely to see it more and more in the next few years.

Rudeness and entitlement have always been around... but that's (in my experience) definitely a lot worse now than it was 10 years ago as well. Boundary pushing and expecting too much is the worst I've ever seen it at the moment.