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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: ChloeClouds on 31 January 2019, 08:07:40 pm
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I am thinking of quitting my full time job to escort full time... Due to my "normal job", I am currently only able to escort on evenings and weekends but fitting work and escort bookings in is proving to be a pain... And tiring! I HATE my job, there is no real progression so I won't feel like I'm throwing away a career and I'm only on around £1300 a month. I feel like I'm wasting my life in a yet another dead end job that I have no interest in. My only concerns are the jump from a regular definate income to an irregular one. I'd also have to lie to my family. Have any of you girls made this jump and if so please tell me how you found it. I feel so stuck at the moment with what to do.
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It depends on your attitude to risk. Quitting gets you more hours to do something else - including escorting - and gets you out of a job you don't like. But it also loses you a guaranteed £15.6k a year as well as stuff like sick benefits etc and something you can point to if you ever want a CV without a gap explain.
Is getting a part-time job an option?
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I found myself in your position a year ago. My daytime job was minimum wage, 4am starts and working under management that treated us like crap. I turned down bookings everyday to go into a workplace that was making me miserable. It was risky but in the end I decided to take the gamble and quit the day job. It’s the best thing I ever did ! I’m now my own boss and can do the hours that I want to do and when I want to do them. I love the freedom it gives me. I worked out that it was only doing another couple of clients a week to cover my daytime wage and that would mean I wasn’t losing out. The downside is the gap on your CV and family and friends asking what you now do for work , which can be tricky. My working life maybe a bit limited due to my age but I feel I have enough regular clients to see me through for another few years yet and then I’ll re-evaluate my whole situation then but for now it’s the happiest I have ever been for many years. It’s a risk I know but maybe it’s a risk worth taking . Good luck with your decision :-) xx
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I would be wary. I know we're all sick of hearing about it, but I think Brexit uncertainty may reduce punting for a couple of months until we all know what the fuck is going to happen. You only need to read the 'slow' thread on here to see that many escorts aren't that busy.
I'd agree about going part-time, especially if you could do it by days rather than hours (i.e. work Mon-Wed rather than five mornings), as then clients would know when you're available and you wouldn't need to lie as much to your family. Or is working for yourself, from home, any sort of option?
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I quit my job beginning of this year, I love my job but so much issues and challenges at work that really stress me out. Since I started full time I have more time for myself and can do me. Is like being an Entrepreneur and have to keep all records and save for the Raining day. I wish I had make this decision a long time ago but the uncertainty of this job just make you scared but to be honest it's good. I work 5 days a week and having the weekend to myself. So far its been good.
If you can take a career break for a while might be a good start to see how it is
With Brexit it's just creating Uncertainty to the economic in general.
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If you want to leave then leave, you will figure it out. In my opinion, when you need to hustle, you hustle hard. Having a civvie job is ‘safe’ but it’s long shitty hours for what you could earn in 1hr 5 days a week.
If you are sensible with your earnings and don’t start creating a more lavish lifestyle, I’m certain you could make more than £1,300 in a month from hoeing. Most can do that in a week.
I wish I left much sooner than I did! I love being self employed. The perks outway the cons
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If you are worried about what you woild tell your family or gaps on your CV set yourself up as self employed. You can do a short course in something your are vaguely interested in and build your 'empire' around that. I'd go for something you can do 'mobile' like a nail technician, spray tan, make up artist, massage therapist or maybe something you could work from home like website designer etc might be best to choose something that your family members wouldnt ask you to do for them though lol
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If you are worried about what you woild tell your family or gaps on your CV set yourself up as self employed. You can do a short course in something your are vaguely interested in and build your 'empire' around that. I'd go for something you can do 'mobile' like a nail technician, spray tan, make up artist, massage therapist or maybe something you could work from home like website designer etc might be best to choose something that your family members wouldnt ask you to do for them though lol
This is good advice but bear in mind you will be full or part time self employed and that involves paying tax and claiming expenses. Realistic expenses will be very different for some of the above roles compared to escorting! Massage would undoubtedly be the closest in terms of the items you might need to be claiming for! Of course if you already escort part time then you'll be declaring your income anyway... ::)
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This is good advice but bear in mind you will be full or part time self employed and that involves paying tax and claiming expenses. Realistic expenses will be very different for some of the above roles compared to escorting! Massage would undoubtedly be the closest in terms of the items you might need to be claiming for! Of course if you already escort part time then you'll be declaring your income anyway... ::)
Thanks choc, you do have to earn over a certain amount before you have to pay tax bit I'm all for declaring as it covers those gaps and if you want to buy a house, car, save up, pay into a pension etc you need to have a declared income otherwise you will be earning money but not be able to do anything to future proof your life x
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This is good advice but bear in mind you will be full or part time self employed and that involves paying tax and claiming expenses. Realistic expenses will be very different for some of the above roles compared to escorting! Massage would undoubtedly be the closest in terms of the items you might need to be claiming for! Of course if you already escort part time then you'll be declaring your income anyway... ::)
That doesn’t really make any sense. Telling a white lie to family and friends has nothing to do with what’s on your tax return.
You can have whatever you want on your tax return as long as it’s soley for your business. So if you want to do a nail course and claim it as an expense you can, not all business ventures create income or you can simply say you were going to become a nail technician but then it wasn’t really working out so you tried something else.
You could just say you’re working for angencies on temporary roles here and there.
As for a gap on CV, you can make up any old tosh. You were a paid blogger, YouTuber, dog breeder, eBay seller, your own cleaning business etc, all self employed roles so it would be normal to have the gap.
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That doesn’t really make any sense. Telling a white lie to family and friends has nothing to do with what’s on your tax return.
You can have whatever you want on your tax return as long as it’s soley for your business. So if you want to do a nail course and claim it as an expense you can, not all business ventures create income or you can simply say you were going to become a nail technician but then it wasn’t really working out so you tried something else.
You could just say you’re working for angencies on temporary roles here and there.
As for a gap on CV, you can make up any old tosh. You were a paid blogger, YouTuber, dog breeder, eBay seller, your own cleaning business etc, all self employed roles so it would be normal to have the gap.
You are right, I was getting a little confused between what someone 'tells' people and what they might 'actually' be doing in terms of being realistic and being able to claim for what they spend. Of course, tell people what you want! Chloe I've worked for other people and for myself and personally I'm much happier working for myself. But for me the perks of being my own boss outweigh the disadvantages, that's not the same for everybody and it depends on your personal situation.
As others have said you could in theory make the same money escorting as you are now but in less time, and then perhaps find something like a part time job you enjoy or even volunteering to put on your CV, you can tell others the volunteering is paid if you want to.
Gina G I'm not the tax police lol or HMRC but all income should be declared, both self employed and employed. There is a minimum you can earn without paying tax but a tax return still needs to be done for all self employed income. There are threads about it on here :)
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Make sure u have some savings before you quit as if u get a dead few weeks in this job then your covered. I did a online graphic design course which cost me £30... my family think I'm a graphic designer and work from home. To be fair I do take the odd graphic design jobs here and there to cover any gaps when it's slow. It's always good to have another backup skill. One of my friends does tarrot reading from home for a company. When it's quiet she does the hours there. Quitting will be the best thing you do if your sensible about it and plan ahead
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I couldn't agree more about having some money behind you and planning ahead. If you have a few months money saved you don't need to worry about your bills. Also you won't be tempted to do bookings you are not sure about or services you don't want to do.
If you don't have any money put aside it's worth thinking about. And also another skill, sideline etc can be exceptionally useful for many reasons!
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As for the savings. If you have unused holiday at work, maybe book off a few days over the next month or so. Stay at hotels/apartments on those days and do incalls to get some money in quicker.
Or even a week if you can. But just a day or two working as much as you can will really help.
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You are right, I was getting a little confused
Gina G I'm not the tax police lol or HMRC but all income should be declared, both self employed and employed. There is a minimum you can earn without paying tax but a tax return still needs to be done for all self employed income. There are threads about it on here :)
I'm a little confused on why you are saying this to me... where did I say anything about not filling in a tax return??
If you go back and re read what I actually said which was " I'm all for declaring"
I don't need to see threads on here about it as I have been self employed, paying tax and filling in tax returns for the last ten years. I also do payroll for my staff in my none sex work business
Edit: besides this thread has nothing to do with if she pays tax or not, what she tells her family and a cover story for giving up her job
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I quit my job over 4 years ago and couldn't be happier, infact I haven't been happier in any other job! Like everyone says, the benefits of being self employed work for me. Thankfully, I have always had consistent work levels and if I don't hit my targets it was down to me not being arsed or taking time off rather than there not being enough work.
I work generally 3 days, averaging 8 hours each day. This provides me a very good wage, money to pay off debts I inherited thanks to my ex and some savings. Not a great deal of saving, but enough to get the ball rolling for now until I am at a time where I won't be paying debt and can work more. But for now, this suits me.
You'll feel what's right for you ;)
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Thanks for all your input girls ;D ... Not quite sure how it got off topic with a sarcastic comment about how I'll be paying taxes (as if I'm not!) There was nowhere in my post that asked for advice on taxes but thank you for your irrelevant input ::) I thought it was assumed we should all be paying taxes, I shouldn't need to state whether I am or not.
Back to what I originally asked advice on, it's pleasing to find you've all had positive experiences making that jump! I'll definitely take the advice of making sure I have some savings behind me first. I currently have ZILCH. Totally sensible, of which I sometimes am not! :FF I've had a few hugely STRESSFUL days at work recently and in situations like that I just feel like giving up with no real thought into what the circumstances will be, I just want to RUN. After some thought, I'm going to grin and bear the full time job alongside building those savings up! I'll aim for 1-3 clients a week and I may even look for a part-time job if I get busier client-wise. Building it up slowly seems the sensible thing to do.
Regarding the couple of you that mentioned gaining some skills too, this did cross my mind and is something I could consider if I did venture into becoming self-employed. Apart from GCSE's I don't have any other qualifications and I'd definitely have the time to fit a course in around managing clients if I did decided to quit the full time job.
A part-time job is a great idea too, my family wouldn't need to know the hours I worked... Definitely something I could try!
Thank you so much everyone it's all been really helpful :) (more is welcome of course!)
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Agree with the Above please do not quit if you have Zilch saved. As you probably seen from some threads it's quiet at the min and you may struggle. Another sidelince career which may fit in nicely is hairdressing. My friend is a mobile hair dresser and it covers her bills for the month. Think about what interests you and look up courses. Usually online courses are cheaper depending on what you want to do. Only quit your full time job when you have a backup plan.
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If you really dislike your civie job I'd say go for it!! I've worked in the industry for a good few years now (+worked full time for 2.5years) and although it has its ups and downs, the ups generally outweigh the downs! Like it's been mentioned this is a particularly quiet time of year so if you can I'd get a bit of savings behind you and then go for it!!
We all have quiet days but we all have good days as well! As long as you put a bit away in savings (which I've only just started doing lol) you should be good to go!! ;D xxx
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I think it depends on a few things
Are you offering incalls now or only outcalls and how is it going for you
Just because your more available by giving up your job it won’t mean your busier because you have more time
How long have you been doing this
If your relatively new you probably still have that new girl vibe. But this generally wears off for you and the punters so then you may have to reconsider how busy you will be if this happens
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I think it depends on a few things
Are you offering incalls now or only outcalls and how is it going for you
Just because your more available by giving up your job it won’t mean your busier because you have more time
How long have you been doing this
If your relatively new you probably still have that new girl vibe. But this generally wears off for you and the punters so then you may have to reconsider how busy you will be if this happens
I only offer outcalls unless I have the time to book a hotel to take incalls. If I were to quit my civvy job I'd consider finding a permanent flat to rent to take incalls from eventually. But until then I would take incalls from hotels or apartments.
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I often wanted to work full time escorting but it's just not going to pay me enough to cover my costs like my civvy job. I just work 1_2 days for extra cash at home.
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I gave up professional civvy street (education sector) 5 years ago and remember I asked the very same question on Saafe.
I have had a few hairy moments (no pun intended) but I have always paid my bills and I love my freedom. If irregular income is acceptable and you can live with the freedom this profession brings, you will thrive.
Good luck!
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I am thinking of quitting my full time job to escort full time... Due to my "normal job", I am currently only able to escort on evenings and weekends but fitting work and escort bookings in is proving to be a pain... And tiring! I HATE my job, there is no real progression so I won't feel like I'm throwing away a career and I'm only on around £1300 a month. I feel like I'm wasting my life in a yet another dead end job that I have no interest in. My only concerns are the jump from a regular definate income to an irregular one. I'd also have to lie to my family. Have any of you girls made this jump and if so please tell me how you found it. I feel so stuck at the moment with what to do.
The way I see it: usually the average income of a civy job is £100 a day. I rather have 1 client for 1hr, than work my ass of for a few hours and get treated badly.
Sometimes i would reconsider having a part-time job becausd this job isnt guaranteed, but then I am like naaaaaahhhh ;D i cant work £8/hr anymore lol
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The way I see it: usually the average income of a civy job is £100 a day. I rather have 1 client for 1hr, than work my ass of for a few hours and get treated badly.
Sometimes i would reconsider having a part-time job becausd this job isnt guaranteed, but then I am like naaaaaahhhh ;D i cant work £8/hr anymore lol
I'm not sure that the equivalent of £26k a year is average for most civvy jobs, that seems quite high to me but I don't live in an expensive area. And for anyone working at £8 an hour that's a 12 and a half hour day to earn £100 a day, I think lots of people work full time for a lot less than £100 a day. Fair to say of course it depends what you do and where you live of course so for some this may be average.
Either way, escorting comes in as a good option if that's what you want. Advantages and disadvantages to both of course but perhaps the potential with escorting is higher than many civvy jobs, and the potential to work less hours for the same money as full time work.
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I personally like working a normal job as well as escorting simply because it gives me abit of normality in my life and I've made some great friends here at work. I did escort full time but was getting down and lonely and I hated it. Now I do both I feel satisfied and have a great laugh
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I agree I personally like having a non-prostitute other working life for all the benefits of having a truthful personal synopsis to give at parties, having no cv gaps etc but the good thing about escorting is that it can give you the space and time to figure out and do what you want other than just what you can get to pay the bills; studying, internships, creative or new business projects are all plausible if you have the desire and aptitude because as long as you’re sensible with money you don’t need to work buckets of hours to earn the basic living. Good time management skills are a help also!
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The phone might stop ringing one day... sooner or later. You are only working part time so the bullshit that comes with this job doesn’t affect you that much. You always know that you are going to have £1300 in your pocket. In escorting? You might not earn a penny if unlucky.
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I've had some very good advice on Here and I didn't give up my civvy job due to high outgoings
I go through phases where I hate my civvy job and wish to feel liberated doing my own thing.
I don't get enough clients to even think about doing it full time as I did few weeks off sick as an experiment .
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The trouble with just relying on this as an income is you need a good bit of savings or when you need two weeks off or you aren't well you need to take it out of spare monies. Then you need to replenish etc.
It depends how hard you work and whether you tour or not really. Usually touring brings in more money.