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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: MM3 on 07 August 2015, 10:42:08 pm
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I * usually * have 3-6 booking a day on the average and one of them (well, most days) is bound to be a walkout ::)
I mean, they use various reasons like '' thought you were more like brunet'' even tough I use word ''blonde'' as a part of my AW nickname ...
I answer the door wearing the very same dress like in my AW amateur pictures and look just like my pics- most guys are like '' WOW you look much better than the pics!"
I mean, I don't mind it too much if I'm doing my incall day ( which means sat in my flat all day and don't have to travel) but otherwise.. really pisses me off..
Any advise or other observations.
Thanks xx
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I * usually * have 3-6 booking a day on the average and one of them (well, most days) is bound to be a walkout ::)
I mean, they use various reasons like '' thought you were more like brunet'' even tough I use word ''blonde'' as a part of my AW nickname ...
I answer the door wearing the very same dress like in my AW amateur pictures and look just like my pics- most guys are like '' WOW you look much better than the pics!"
I mean, I don't mind it too much if I'm doing my incall day ( which means sat in my flat all day and don't have to travel) but otherwise.. really pisses me off..
Any advise or other observations.
Thanks xx
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No, that's not the norm. I've had a few here and there. A friend of mine has only ever had one.
If you're getting a lot of them I think there are a few possibilities.
1. You're attracting or not screening out goofy time wasters who just want to have a look at you. I think these are probably pretty rare but maybe they're out there if you don't screen them out by having good instincts.
2. You don't look exactly like your photos. If your photos depict someone noticeably younger or thinner than the reality, then you will get some walk-outs. But one a day still seems excessive.
3. There is something about your incall premises that they don't like. If you have a dirty or messy flat that may make some men scarper.
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I've only ever had one outside Ireland (where I'd expect at least one in every visit, although I still never got that many), and he didn't explain himself so not very helpful.
I agree with Fab on the screening; it's not normal and I think you're maybe not spotting them on the phone. Could it be your incall though - is there anybody there (even next door) making a lot of noise, or pets that might be bothering them?
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::) have like lots of amateur pics which aren't exactly flattering so I don't really know ..
Well, I am exaggerating a bit perhaps , it's like 1-2 a week or a few days, still worrying though ...
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If your pics aren't flattering you would think they'd be pleasantly surprised seeing you "in the flesh", and if they didn't like the pics
they wouldn't book you in the first place..
That's still quite a lot, 2-3 a week, I've only ever had one (touch wood), and that was because I had the wrong football team on the
wall lol ;) (Glasgow ::))
I would ask them why if it keeps happening, I know that might not be the easiest thing to ask, but I'm sure it isn't you personally or they wouldn't book you in the first place, so maybe like the other girls said, the premises?
Maybe ask them if they've got any preferences for you to wear something specific?
Unless you've just been really, really unlucky and just had an abnormal amount of arseholes ;)
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Sounds a bit too high...
Horrific amateur pics would keep them away surely?
But they are turning up right?
How do you screen them on the phone?
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That's what I didn't understand cheesypeas, it's obviously not the pics or they wouldn't book, so it must be something when they're
turning up..
Foxy Lady, I would ask them, there's got to be a reason, and it must be really pissing you off, it's the only way to find out..
They'll probably come up with all sorts of excuses, but you might get ONE honest answer, if you ask them the right way.. Maybe..
If you're comfortable with that.. Sorry, I just can't think of an another solution and I just don't understand why you'd be getting such
a high volume of walkouts..
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Hi,
It *can* possibly be my screening as people who book on AW following the whole ''booking request ''procedure and properly familiarise themselves with my profile- never had any sort of problem with them..
So perhaps these other guys who book over the phone just don't bother to read my profile and look at all the pics
I have tried asking people as to why they feel the need to act this way they would usually say ''babe, sorry for wasting your time '' ...
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I had one recently where a guy questioned my ethnic background! I found it highly offensive as I am completely honest about my ethnic background on my profile.
My last walk out was in April. I don't think they should be happening weekly but it's bound to happen occasionally. It's impossible to be everyone's type and if you don't show your face there will always be one fussy guy who changes his mind.
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It's pretty rare that they'll tell you why. I had one guy say that it was because I didn't look like my photos (back when I had glossy pro shots). I had another guy say that it was because I was "much too tall" but if that was even the truth I figured he was the idiot as my profile is very clear about my height.
I have done everything I can to prevent any disappointment on their parts but I still get a walkout every two or three months or so.
I've had others say that they just felt too guilty or whatever. It does make me paranoid but I know that I look exactly like my photos (they show my face and my body and are never more than a couple of months old), my flat/venues are always clean and pleasant, and I am friendly and pleasant when I answer the door. Perhaps they're just not ready for all 6-foot-plus-in-heels of me towering over them.
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... It has just happened now.. this guy (noticeably quite drunk and I did notice it when spoke to him on the phone ) just walked in, turned around without saying a word and walked out ...
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I'm sorry that has just happened to you - it's an awful feeling. :(
I'm not normally one to advocate being a glutton for punishment, but maybe if you asked them via a text very nicely what was wrong they'd be more likely to tell you?
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Just send him an extra polite message asking why he felt the need to behave the way he did and got this reply (quotation )
''Puncture!!''
So don't know what to make of it, it's completely inadequate and probably just a piss take. .. ::)
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I'd be shouting after them "should have gone to specsavers" rofl.
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I agree that's peculiar. To be honest I've put on weight and gone up a dress size (in comparison to my agency pics which I can't change freely myself) and have never had such a response. Sounds a bit ott. Maybe take more recent pics ?
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Is it just AW or do you advertise elsewhere
Are these clients young, old , professional types of guys ,asian or ethnic minorities
Where are you based,if it's Ireland then as my thread on the worse place to work - no one can help you ;D
how do you screen your clients. I screen mine in such a way that I rarely get no shows , time-wasters
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Hi,
It *can* possibly be my screening as people who book on AW following the whole ''booking request ''procedure and properly familiarise themselves with my profile- never had any sort of problem with them..
So perhaps these other guys who book over the phone just don't bother to read my profile and look at all the pics
I have tried asking people as to why they feel the need to act this way they would usually say ''babe, sorry for wasting your time '' ...
Are you advertising else where because I often find that places like Vivast , newspapers ( do we still advertise in the paper) brings out a lots of assholes of thr parlour type mentality where they can come in have a look and walk
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I * usually * have 3-6 booking a day on the average and one of them (well, most days) is bound to be a walkout ::)
I mean, they use various reasons like '' thought you were more like brunet'' even tough I use word ''blonde'' as a part of my AW nickname ...
I answer the door wearing the very same dress like in my AW amateur pictures and look just like my pics- most guys are like '' WOW you look much better than the pics!"
I mean, I don't mind it too much if I'm doing my incall day ( which means sat in my flat all day and don't have to travel) but otherwise.. really pisses me off..
Any advise or other observations.
Thanks xx
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Part sounds like although you say you are blonde accuracy of photos should help fix this. Some thing isn't right hence why so many walk outs. If I can take a look then can advice if you want to pm me. It could be some thing small as the lighting used.
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Hi,
It *can* possibly be my screening as people who book on AW following the whole ''booking request ''procedure and properly familiarise themselves with my profile- never had any sort of problem with them..
So perhaps these other guys who book over the phone just don't bother to read my profile and look at all the pics
I have tried asking people as to why they feel the need to act this way they would usually say ''babe, sorry for wasting your time '' ...
Are you advertising else where because I often find that places like Vivast , newspapers ( do we still advertise in the paper) brings out a lots of assholes of thr parlour type mentality where they can come in have a look and walk
I'm based SE London
Apart from AW I'm also on Vivastreet and craiglist.
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Probably most of your wankers are coming from CL then that's a wankers paradise
Put your add on Craig's list with a separate number don't link it to your AW profile and see what happens
If you don't have your AW profile on Viva St then do the same separate number
That way you can see where all the numptys are coming from.
I bet by doing this you will have your answer in a week or so
As you said you don't get this problem from AW when they book you so it's probably CL or VS my money would be on Craig's list its full of guys wanting a free shag, Hook up and the likes
It's a pain in the ass having three phones but it's better than getting xxx walkers and knocking your confidence every day plus you can see what works , don't works for you
If most of your work is coming from AW then it's might be worth spending more time on your profile so that you get even more work
But I bet you 100 percent your walkers are from Craig's list
I also bet then none of us who don't get walkers or very few use CL
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yeah, i probably won't be renewing my VS adds as it's more harm than good
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yeah, i probably won't be renewing my VS adds as it's more harm than good
It's probably not Viva St as you can get genuine clients from it and it's ranked high on Google more likely to be Craig's list which is known as a hook up site where guys will look for NSA
If you try it with different numbers you will see pretty quickly where they are all coming from
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Out of interest how much do you pay to advertise in london on Viva St
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OHH, just switched my work phone on and got another text from the '' puncture'' guy saying '' I didn't fancy you for ?xxx ''
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OHH, just switched my work phone on and got another text from the '' puncture'' guy saying '' I didn't fancy you for ?xxx ''
Text him back and ask him where he got your details from
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texted, no reply as yet ..
I charge ?200 p/h (sometimes ?150 -depends on how busy I want to be etc) which I think is a pretty standard rate for London. Maybe some people feel like I'm taking a piss and have no intention of going through with it so just want to take a look at me..
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I have to say he's pretty good at responding...
Didn't expect him to ???
I like this customer survey.
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You can also ask every guy where he found your details. Or maybe use a different name on each advert if you can't handle multiple phones. The problem with asking where they found you is that many have no idea. "Um... adult world dot com? English Escorts?" I often don't know if some cheeky directory has lifted my details from elsewhere or if these guys are just really confused.
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I'm in SE London too and a general ad in VS costs ?60 and all I got in a month was one lady (3rd ever), one new man and a man who saw me on VS years ago yet I was getting 15 to 20 calls a day and just didn't like the sound of any of them but maybe I was just being too picky but I did try to like them!
Ace and AW are ok for me though.
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I am not too keen on SE london in terms of work, but alas I'm stuck here for one more week ..Looks like it's a number game for me-some will walk but some will stay...
I would get a walkout once in a while when working in different location, but nowhere near this ..
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I'm in SE London too and a general ad in VS costs ?60 and all I got in a month was one lady (3rd ever), one new man and a man who saw me on VS years ago yet I was getting 15 to 20 calls a day and just didn't like the sound of any of them but maybe I was just being too picky but I did try to like them!
Ace and AW are ok for me though.
That has pretty much been my experience, too. I'll get my money back (although I'm not sure I did last month) but that's about it.I turn the vast majority of them away.
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I'd be shouting after them "should have gone to specsavers" rofl.
Agreed! ;D
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I'm sorry that has just happened to you - it's an awful feeling. :(
I'm not normally one to advocate being a glutton for punishment, but maybe if you asked them via a text very nicely what was wrong they'd be more likely to tell you?
That's what I meant, maybe send them a text after they've walked out, that you're genuinely want to know what the problem was and why he walked out so you can do something about it, it might take a few attempts (like the "puncture" one ???), but maybe you'll get one that will tell you the real reason, coz it's a mystery to me..
Try not to let it get to you, there must be a reason for it.. ?!
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I did get a reply form the ''puncture'' guy latter on- he said '' I didn't fancy you for ?xxx ''
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That's just bullshit, I take it he knew your rates before he booked you? And seen your pics or he wouldn't have made the booking?
I would keep asking, maybe you'll eventually get an honest answer..
Coz unless you don't look anything like your pics it just doesn't make any sense..
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Had 4 bookings sos far today- all perfectly ok and pleasant, ;D
(The've all booked via AW booking system )
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Had 4 bookings sos far today- all perfectly ok and pleasant, ;D
(The've all booked via AW booking system )
Maybe that's the way forward, if they go through the trouble of booking through the AW system they're obviously genuine and I'd
be very, very surprised if they'd walk out..!!
Plus it's a chance to build up your feedback.
Glad you had a good day, and may the walk-outs be a thing of the past..!! :)
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I had one direct walk out in 8 years.
That was on a day when I knew I was absolutely spot on, couldn't have faulted me, ok might have been a pound or two less than my last photos, but I knew I was on excellent form that day, not a hair out of place and my property was tip top.
There was a clue when the man made the booking, he really 'barked' at me, I put it down to his mannerisms and possible nerves. He arrived wearing shades (sunny day), fiddling with his phone, hardly looked at me before turning around and shooting off.
Not a clue what that was about.
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There we go again: just got a call from this guy, he asked if it would be ok to just come and t look and he would only stay if he liked me..I said NO.
Well, at least he was honest about it but I forgot to ask where he got my number from as was really pissed of by my previous experiences.
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There we go again: just got a call from this guy, he asked if it would be ok to just come and t look and he would only stay if he liked me..I said NO.
Well, at least he was honest about it but I forgot to ask where he got my number from as was really pissed of by my previous experiences.
Lol, what an utter knob!!!
Its happened to me a couple of times, feel for you hun x First time was an outcall to his home and he literally turned me away like i was selling double glazing or something. I was more pissed about wasting my taxi fair than anything else though!!
I've also had the "i forgot my wallet" line - yeah, whatever love :FF
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Perhaps they are just voyeurs & you've been extremely unlucky in the area you are working or it's something like how you've worded your profile. You mention a drunk guy sounding guy. I'd personally refuse a drunk person. What on earth does "puncture" mean? Is it another stupid thing from the urban dictionary. Sounds like he was so wasted he couldn't have got it up anyway. Maybe he needed to change his Tyre & couldn't spare the time to see you so called in to tell you but forgot in his drunken state to actually say the words!?! They can never seem to remember where they found your details unless a seasoned pro on AW I've found too. Very annoying.
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Can't fucking believe this - had another one this morning, just grabbed my by the boob and then run off :FF
Honestly, don't know what to think..
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Lea, Well that's sexual assault!
Could you PM his number at all please thanks?
Have you googled your number to see if you're details are in odd places?
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ok, will post details on w&w section,
googled my number and it seems ok- no funny sites come up xx
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Many thanks Lea.
I hope you are ok.
It's so peculiar.
My walkout rate is one every 3 months.
And I usually get a 90% feeling that they are fussy or over-enthusiastic,
but I let them in cause I have a gap in my day so don't loose anything.
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It is more of a reflection of them not us. Some are unpleasant right from the word get go. It is a shame to not allow a booking. But on the other hand there are many genuine respecting clients.
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Can't fucking believe this - had another one this morning, just grabbed my by the boob and then run off :FF
Honestly, don't know what to think..
Do you show your face on your profile? I'm not saying that's what puts them off!!! But there's something very strange going on here..
There's no way, even if you don't show your face on your profile, that many guys would walk out, even if they didn't like your face.
Maybe they all know eachother and have decided to play some cruel joke on you?!
Oh, and I think I solved the "puncture" text (I hope that was this thread, and not Foxy lady's..!), it probably meant to say "picture",
and predictive text changed it to puncture?
I get them quite a lot, texts with just "picture?", meaning they want me to send them free pics.. ::)
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I kinda show my face- eyes are blurred
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I kinda show my face- eyes are blurred
Well that can't be it than either.. I'm baffled by this and I really feel for you, can't be doing your self-esteem any good..
When do you give them your address?
Maybe you need to tweek your clientele radar a bit, weed out the arseholes and TW's, and do not give your address out until
the booking's confirmed, you've spoke to the guy, he sounds genuine etc etc..
I don't give them my buzzer number until they're actually near my flat, then I tell them to call or text me and I'll give them the number.
That way you won't get all and sundry at your door without having to put a bit of effort in getting your address in the first place..
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Siorse you're brilliant! lol ;D
I think some girls already asked...any pets or babies in the house?
Any neighbours who cook speciality foods? curry, cabbage, fish etc
I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel here...
(My mate had a baby and the flat stunk of shit when it had an upset
tummy but she couldn't smell it. I was too embarassed to mention it :-[)
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Can't fucking believe this - had another one this morning, just grabbed my by the boob and then run off :FF
Honestly, don't know what to think..
Some are sad old men that are immature he probably was jobless. I study them when they talk the words they use. Their manners etc. Then conclude the jolly ones you know they are safe watch out for the quiet tone voices. I let clients know if they ask about that clients don't all get a booking with me just because they want.
Some times a slight change to how we operate improves. Over seeing our business. It has been ages since had a walk out.
All the best.
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Hi, I'm new here so forgive me if Im butting in!
I was reading through this thread and it struck me that it looks a lot like someone is doing this deliberately. Is there anyone who knows or could have found out your work details, who could be out to get you for whatever reason? Putting your number somewhere perhaps?
Has this rate of walkers changed or always been the same?
Im probably just being overdramatic and been watching too much crap tv though lol.
S xx
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Siorse you're brilliant! lol ;D
I think some girls already asked...any pets or babies in the house?
Any neighbours who cook speciality foods? curry, cabbage, fish etc
I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel here...
(My mate had a baby and the flat stunk of shit when it had an upset
tummy but she couldn't smell it. I was too embarassed to mention it :-[)
Lol, I wouldn't go as far as brilliant ;D I just don't understand how the OP can get that many walk-outs, I really feel for her and
there's gotta be a reason for it, there's no way that's coincidence or that many guys happen to "change their mind" when they get
to the door..
Lea, I would hold off giving them your address until the very last moment, when you're sure they're serious about wanting a booking
(and not just a peek at a working girl they might get a thrill out ::)), and see if that'll improve things..
I'm sure it's not you, and someone (and his mates) is playing a cruel joke on you/ taking advantage of you..
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Sorry to be an A hole but it's just me and Google at the moment while I wait for my next booking and rather than spend my time watching cat videos on YouTube I decided to be slightly more productive and find out what the word " puncture" could possible mean.
The term " puncture" from the Macmillan dictionary [TRANSITIVE] ( To cause a sudden change in the way that someone feels or thinks about something)
In plain English he's just a Dick. Walk outs happen to the best of us. My friend once had a walk out and she's mega hot!!! He turned up and said " Sorry your not what I was expecting" then she said " Ok then, bye" and then he said " Can I just have a blow job"? you can imagine what she said to that.! Basically he didn't have the money to begin with. >:(
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I * usually * have 3-6 booking a day on the average and one of them (well, most days) is bound to be a walkout ::)
I mean, they use various reasons like '' thought you were more like brunet'' even tough I use word ''blonde'' as a part of my AW nickname ...
I answer the door wearing the very same dress like in my AW amateur pictures and look just like my pics- most guys are like '' WOW you look much better than the pics!"
I mean, I don't mind it too much if I'm doing my incall day ( which means sat in my flat all day and don't have to travel) but otherwise.. really pisses me off..
Any advise or other observations.
Thanks xx
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This might help just an idea only get changed on thier arrival. Have it on the bed ready. Dress nice in between bookings. Screening is another one not saying you don't just incase. Are there any ways this can be improved. Time wasters are out there usually the suspicious ones turn out to be. When some thing isn't right about there verbal is another clue of a time waster.
Once you start doing things different you should notice an improvement.
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I still think that if your advertising on Craig's list that's were most of the idiots are coming from they seem to breed on that site in large numbers
My friend use it in dubai and had a similar time to you as soon as she took it off things went back to normal
I know a lot of escorts and none of them advertise on CL because of the amount of wankers
I would still recommend getting a different phone for CL and not linking your advert to it and I bet you all the dicks come from there
If you want to keep advertising on there just put your email address on it and get them to email you for your contact details
Or remove your adds for a week or so and see what happens if you get less walkers but I still think the separate mobile work best to see where they are coming from
Def don't give them the address until you can either see them or you know they are nearby maybe make it a little bit harder for them to book you
You said before all your AW bookings come off so it's obvious that it's either CL or viva St
The only other thing I can think of is are you in a area where there are a lot of Massage parlours because that might make a difference to the mentality of the guys who are used to just going and having a look
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I'd try taking your number off CL and VS.
Also do you have clients confirm close to their appointment?
Having several steps can help weed out the look-see, and some genuine guys tell me they end up reassured that you are taking their booking seriously.
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Maybe I'm getting paranoid, but i think somebody is having me on..
I got this message this afternoon...
'' hey lea. love your profile . would you be interested in joining me for a daring dinner date? the daring part is would like to you wear an incredible skimpy revealing outfit out for the evening if thats ok? we can go for dinner, to few bars and then have some naughty fun. probably 3 hours in total x''
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I mean, skimpy outfit wtf> they just want me to turn up there looking ridiculous ...
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Yes those requests are not unheard of.
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Perhaps, but I do not want to be walking in some restaurant wearing ''incredible daring'' (wouldn't feel comfortable in the first place) outfit as since we were to meet at a restaurant as opposed to his hotel room as there would be no way I could make sure it he's genuine.
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Perhaps, but I do not want to be walking in some restaurant wearing ''incredible daring'' (wouldn't feel comfortable in the first place) outfit as since we were to meet at a restaurant as opposed to his hotel room as there would be no way I could make sure it he's genuine.
Hey I didn't say you have to do it, I said yes this can be a request. I wouldn't accept such a booking, genuine or not.
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I know, don't want to come across as being defensive.
It's just strange tbh, been escorting on and off since 2011 and its been pretty straightforward and went smoothly so just a bit confused.
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Some times shifting our forcus improves things.
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Yes those requests are not unheard of.
Yeah especially from CL