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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Kiaralove on 18 January 2017, 10:51:06 am
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:FF I have symptoms of genital herpes.
I think one of my clients gave it to me last week. It's really scary and painful. I'm also scared it could be something else. I need to go get checked and see if it's for sure just herpes, but I'm pretty sure it is. Like how could I even get it ?!!!
I have blisters on my crotch and on my lips. And it looks so friggin UGLY AND GROSS and I just felt like shit yesterday
I've been an escort for 1 1/2 years and it finally happened to me.
I really hope dating won't be hard after this. :(
I know there was another girl named parisiangirl on here (I completely went through threads I've searched for a few days). And she got the same thing I did
It's truly sad. Dating will be much harder.
Im new to this site but I've lurked while sitting in my old incall back in the day
Would love some advice on how to deal with this as I'm not sure working will be the same.
❤️️ Thank you ❤️️
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Well the first thing to do is go to the clinic and find out exactly what it is and how to treat it.They will be able to help you far better than any of us as you don't even know for sure what it is yet.Condoms don't protect you completely from getting herpes as it can be passed on through skin to skin contact and condoms don't always cover completely the base of the penis etc.
No point in panicking at this stage best to go straight to get a diagnosis and any treatment asap before wondering about dating/working etc..cross that bridge when you come to it!
Don't sit there any longer in pain go get it looked at!
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Firstly you must be worried sick , so take Bibis advice , most clinics will see you the same day ( well that's in my area if you say your a S/W and are worried have symptoms.
A guy told me a long time ago ( not a client an attacker said he'd got it and HIV but I've never seen it ) that he had it and he told me to scare me.
The Police and clinic told me
The that it's only contagious while its flared up then it goes away.
But it does come back and that's when your contagious ...tbc client here don't worry xxx
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Firstly you must be worried sick , so take Bibis advice , most clinics will see you the same day ( well that's in my area if you say your a S/W and are worried have symptoms.
A guy told me a long time ago ( not a client an attacker said he'd got it and HIV but I've never seen it ) that he had it and he told me to scare me.
The Police and clinic told me
The that it's only contagious while its flared up then it goes away.
But it does come back and that's when your contagious ...tbc client here don't worry xxx
Back again , it's only contagious when the sores are visable and cold symptoms like the flu .
But on a lighter note and at my peril , I've been to the clinic loads of times when I've had an itch or anything suspect .
I'm paranoid about passing anything to anyone and/ or catching anything and it's always been a false alarm .
I really do hope your ok , best wishes x
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I am a ex nurse and i thought i had genital herpes but what i thought were blisters were the result from when i caught myself shaving! So do not panic and get checked
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This is one of the reasons i no longer escort on my last tour to Brum last year a client went down on me and a week later I had genital herpes. Touch wood it has not returned but I no longer work either, but I do now get oral herpes due to this, it got treated with aciclovar for your genitals you can also use coldsore cream on the blisters.
Sorry about this sweety I know how sore it is and how panicky it makes you but it can happen in this industry and out of this industry unfortunately, all it takes is for a client to have a cold sore on his lip or tongue and you are buggered.
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I will put this into perspective for you to stop you worrying....
I have had genital herpes for a few years now, probably 7 years...I have only had one bad outbreak and maybe two minor ones. The key thing is to manage it. What I mean is, that make sure you use lubricant and don't have very vigorous sex with clients without it because the rubbing can start it off. You will get to know the signs if it is starting off. It's sort of painful (not very nice) but, if you have a supply of tablets in (Aciclovir-you can even buy them off the net), just start taking them straight away and it clears up almost straightaway.
There is absolutely no way this condition will affect your dating or your life. The only thing I would do is avoid sex if you get an outbreak as any ulcer (s) may infect the other person. But, as I said, if you keep a stock of those tablets, this break from sex will be very minimal. I personally wouldn't tell any man. Just manage the condition. It hardly ever rears it's head anyway.
My experience xx
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I will put this into perspective for you to stop you worrying....
I have had genital herpes for a few years now, probably 7 years...I have only had one bad outbreak and maybe two minor ones. The key thing is to manage it. What I mean is, that make sure you use lubricant and don't have very vigorous sex with clients without it because the rubbing can start it off. You will get to know the signs if it is starting off. It's sort of painful (not very nice) but, if you have a supply of tablets in (Aciclovir-you can even buy them off the net), just start taking them straight away and it clears up almost straightaway.
There is absolutely no way this condition will affect your dating or your life. The only thing I would do is avoid sex if you get an outbreak as any ulcer (s) may infect the other person. But, as I said, if you keep a stock of those tablets, this break from sex will be very minimal. I personally wouldn't tell any man. Just manage the condition. It hardly ever rears it's head anyway.
My experience xx
Thanks I'll definitely look into getting that medication. Need to get working again because I'm 22 and gonna be going to college in a few days here.
Now I wonder; if HIV was transmitted as well as the genital herpes? Note: we didn't have unprotected sex
❤️️ Thank you
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Kiara, what makes you think that you could have contracted HIV if you didn't have unprotected sex? There are other ways to catch it, but not many and the risk is very low - if it was mainly skin to skin contact I'd be more concerned about genital warts. At least when you've had a check up you'll know.
Don't forget that herpes is very, very contagious (and not just during an attack as the virus can be shed without one) but not many other things are and if you didn't have unprotected penetration or any sort of condom failure it's very unlikely you have anything else :).
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Well the first thing to do is go to the clinic and find out exactly what it is and how to treat it.They will be able to help you far better than any of us as you don't even know for sure what it is yet.Condoms don't protect you completely from getting herpes as it can be passed on through skin to skin contact and condoms don't always cover completely the base of the penis etc.
No point in panicking at this stage best to go straight to get a diagnosis and any treatment asap before wondering about dating/working etc..cross that bridge when you come to it!
Don't sit there any longer in pain go get it looked at!
The doctor did say it was herpes
He perspribed me something for it
I wonder if it could be something other than herpes? He didn't mention what kind of herpes it is
It could possible be herpes caused by, say... chlamydia or syphilis?
I also had BV and was having sex with bv. :'(
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Firstly you must be worried sick , so take Bibis advice , most clinics will see you the same day ( well that's in my area if you say your a S/W and are worried have symptoms.
A guy told me a long time ago ( not a client an attacker said he'd got it and HIV but I've never seen it ) that he had it and he told me to scare me.
The Police and clinic told me
The that it's only contagious while its flared up then it goes away.
But it does come back and that's when your contagious ...tbc client here don't worry xxx
Thank you
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It could possible be herpes caused by, say... chlamydia or syphilis?
No it couldn't, because herpes is caused by the herpes simplex virus (HSV). Chlamydia and syphilis are caused by chlamydia and syphilis bacterial infections and are neither viral nor related to herpes in any way. It's no more possible than developing thrush because you have a cold :).
Kiara, I know you said you've been working for a year and a half - hasn't anybody at your GUM explained any of this to you? Your sexual health is your livelihood and if there are things you're unclear about then they really ought to have gone over things like this - worrying yourself sick is just needless and won't help you feel better.
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I will put this into perspective for you to stop you worrying....
I have had genital herpes for a few years now, probably 7 years...I have only had one bad outbreak and maybe two minor ones. The key thing is to manage it. What I mean is, that make sure you use lubricant and don't have very vigorous sex with clients without it because the rubbing can start it off. You will get to know the signs if it is starting off. It's sort of painful (not very nice) but, if you have a supply of tablets in (Aciclovir-you can even buy them off the net), just start taking them straight away and it clears up almost straightaway.
There is absolutely no way this condition will affect your dating or your life. The only thing I would do is avoid sex if you get an outbreak as any ulcer (s) may infect the other person. But, as I said, if you keep a stock of those tablets, this break from sex will be very minimal. I personally wouldn't tell any man. Just manage the condition. It hardly ever rears it's head anyway.
My experience xx
I appreciate this is your personal experience, however, there is something called viral shedding which means you can pass it on with no visible signs or symptoms of a herpes outbreak;
What is Viral Shedding?
When the herpes virus is not active on the surface of the skin it resides in a sleeping state inside the nerve cells and other tissues. At times (which cannot always be predicted), the virus will become active and travel the nerve pathways up to the surface of the skin.
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Taken from https://www.herpes-coldsores.com/viral_shedding.htm (on 19.01.17)
...hence, the above forms part of my own personal reasons for not doing OWO or kissing when working because even if there are no active signs of an infection, I am still at risk of infection and obviously if I pick up something then passing it on.
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There is absolutely no way this condition will affect your dating or your life. The only thing I would do is avoid sex if you get an outbreak as any ulcer (s) may infect the other person. But, as I said, if you keep a stock of those tablets, this break from sex will be very minimal. I personally wouldn't tell any man. Just manage the condition. It hardly ever rears it's head anyway.
Have to say I do respectfully disagree with this, Shewolf. It's an incurable, life-long condition, so if you enter an LTR it's only fair to warn your partner that you have it. And as Mariah says, you don't need to be in an active outbreak for it to be transmissible.
It's perhaps easier for me to say than others because I have another job to fall back on, but if I ever contracted herpes (i.e. had the initial outbreak) I wouldn't escort any more.
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I will put this into perspective for you to stop you worrying....
I have had genital herpes for a few years now, probably 7 years...I have only had one bad outbreak and maybe two minor ones. The key thing is to manage it. What I mean is, that make sure you use lubricant and don't have very vigorous sex with clients without it because the rubbing can start it off. You will get to know the signs if it is starting off. It's sort of painful (not very nice) but, if you have a supply of tablets in (Aciclovir-you can even buy them off the net), just start taking them straight away and it clears up almost straightaway.
There is absolutely no way this condition will affect your dating or your life. The only thing I would do is avoid sex if you get an outbreak as any ulcer (s) may infect the other person. But, as I said, if you keep a stock of those tablets, this break from sex will be very minimal. I personally wouldn't tell any man. Just manage the condition. It hardly ever rears it's head anyway.
My experience xx
I bought some
Do you take them everyday ?
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I don't mean to impose on this forum but I can't stop crying tonight.
I've decided I'm going to quit.
I just wish I quit sooner so that I could have avoided getting this disease.
Please help me.
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The doctor did say it was herpes
He perspribed me something for it
I wonder if it could be something other than herpes? He didn't mention what kind of herpes it is
It could possible be herpes caused by, say... chlamydia or syphilis?
I also had BV and was having sex with bv. :'(
They are all seperate STI's and are not related to each other at all.You should be getting your full STI screening regularly which would test you for the majority of possible STI's and I'm surprised you didn't ask for a full screening while you were at it when you went to the G.Ps.If you don't go to your local GUM already it might be worth starting.I personally get my tests done every 6 to 8 weeks.
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I don't mean to impose on this forum but I can't stop crying tonight.
I've decided I'm going to quit.
I just wish I quit sooner so that I could have avoided getting this disease.
Please help me.
Kiara, the people here are prossies, not medical professionals. We can offer support, but if your doctor has left you in this state I think you need to find somewhere a bit more patient and sympathetic and start there. And bear in mind that a massive proportion of the population have the HSV virus - you quite possibly would have picked it up without ever being paid for sex anyway?
What is it you think we can help with? :)
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I have seen stats that around 70% of the population have the virus, the oral one, and about 30% have the genital one.
It's really not the end of the world.
I agree with Amy that your doctor hasn't been helpful at all. Where do you live? Is there a sex work project near you that you could access for support? Did you have the test for herpes done at a clinic or your regular gp? Did they rest for any other STIs?
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I have seen stats that around 70% of the population have the virus, the oral one, and about 30% have the genital one.
It's really not the end of the world.
I agree with Amy that your doctor hasn't been helpful at all. Where do you live? Is there a sex work project near you that you could access for support? Did you have the test for herpes done at a clinic or your regular gp? Did they rest for any other STIs?
My butt hurts sooo much. This pain is unbearable.
I got tested for hep and HIV and I'm gonna test again in a few weeks.
I live in Canada and I don't know I probably should have looked
I got into this business because I was homeless
And he didn't even test me for herpes I let the doctor at Walmart take a look because I had a little rug burn type thing happening on my crotch, I had sex with it there and I didn't even KNOW
Then he noticed the herpes lesions and told me I have a bit of hsv
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Go to the doctors ASAp, if anything to offer yourself some relief.
I thought I'd got it and was devastated but apparently I'd just given myself a skin infection from breaking the skin when shaving and it had just spread :D
Also, if you do have it, remember that this time you are experiencing symptoms will be the worst!
Don't worry, in the scheme of things it's very minor and can be controlled.
Hope you're ok,
P.x
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Googling Sti clinics in Canada shows a few...you really need to go to a proper clinic where they specialise in Sexual Health not a Doctor at Walmart.
They can screen you for everything in one session (blood test,throat swab,vagina/anal swab).If you are using protection then you won't likely have any other STI but always good to check anyway plus they can give you proper advice and reassurance (what the heck is 'abit of hsv ffs?).
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I have seen stats that around 70% of the population have the virus, the oral one, and about 30% have the genital one.
It's really not the end of the world.
VC I always find your comments and posts very interesting, however the ones above have left me somewhat puzzled as your statistics are unclear and don't add up. Do you mean that 70% of the population have the oral type and 30% have the genital type and therefore 100% of the population are infected with the herpes virus? Or do you mean that of the 70% already mentioned that 30% of those have the genital type? My reason for asking is that it seems to contradict the statistics that I have seen.
I find it hard to understand why some people downplay the significance/severity of the condition as it is still a very serious condition nevertheless. As well as being thoroughly unpleasant and painful to deal with as the OP has shown, there are other very serious complications associated with it including ocular herpes, (herpes that affects the eyes - very common), neonatal herpes (herpes that affects babies and children causing brain damage, blindness and death), it can cause meningitis, it makes you more susceptible to contracting HIV and other STD's and the list doesn't end there. I will never understand the crazy mindset of punters who practice unsafe sexual activities and then go home to their pregnant wives and girlfriends who then pass it on to their babies.
I also noticed that this figure has been bandied about on other threads which I find amusing. With the greatest respect, just because 70% of the population already have herpes, that doesn't mean that the rest of us who are not infected have any wish or desire to contract it.
To the original OP, try Olive Leaf Extract but a very pure one and high potency (at least 20%), you can buy it off Amazon or health food shops. It can really knock out the herpes virus before it has a chance to kick in, it also has a whole host of other benefits. After your initial flare up has gone down, ask your doctor or the GUM clinic for long term Acyclovir (or equivalent)/which is taken at a lower dose every day for 3 months at a time (it is more of a preventative course of medication) that should hopefully lessen or completely stop you having further outbreaks while you are on it and working. Important note: there are two types of Acyclovir one that is taken for about 5 days for an active outbreak and another one that you take at a lower dose for 3 months at a time to prevent new flare ups. Get both of them and take them accordingly. Try to get plenty of rest and sleep, plenty of exercise, eat properly and avoid stress as they are all triggers. Also the obvious one is to avoid sex and all sexual activities whilst having an outbreak and for at least a week or so AFTER the sores have completely disappeared to minimise infecting anyone else. Also wash hands frequently and avoid touching the affected area and other parts of your body including your eyes as you can spread it around.
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Shingles are also a form of herpes caused by the chicken pox virus. Once in a blue moon I have a 5p size patch appear on my backside I can go years without it appearing, usually its if I get the flu or I'm unwell which is not often but when it appears it lasts about a week.
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VC I always find your comments and posts very interesting, however the ones above have left me somewhat puzzled as your statistics are unclear and don't add up. Do you mean that 70% of the population have the oral type and 30% have the genital type and therefore 100% of the population are infected with the herpes virus? Or do you mean that of the 70% already mentioned that 30% of those have the genital type? My reason for asking is that it seems to contradict the statistics that I have seen.
I was actually looking at the stats provided by Planned Parenthood which refer to the US.
https://herpes.org.uk/frequently-asked-questions/
"About six out of ten people in the UK carry type 1 and about one in ten carries type 2, more in the sexually active population. Most facial cold sores are caused by type 1. Herpes simplex on the genitals may be type 1 or type 2."
So there can be a cross-over of the two groups, as it's possible for one person to have both oral and genital herpes.
The link I posted has a link to the stats from Public Health England. It also has a lot of information which I hope will help the OP.
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I have seen stats that around 70% of the population have the virus, the oral one, and about 30% have the genital one.
It's really not the end of the world.
VCs point is that the majority of us have the dormant form of herpes. You can contract it without knowing, some people present symptoms quickly others will present years later after activated by stress or other illness, some people never have an active outbreak.
There's no point in assuming just because you never had active symptoms that you don't have herpes it just means you have never had an active outbreak.
I do hope the OP is ok and has managed to get to an STI clinic to talk to someone with medical expertise about this.
NB post crossed with VCs
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I was actually looking at the stats provided by Planned Parenthood which refer to the US.
https://herpes.org.uk/frequently-asked-questions/
"About six out of ten people in the UK carry type 1 and about one in ten carries type 2, more in the sexually active population. Most facial cold sores are caused by type 1. Herpes simplex on the genitals may be type 1 or type 2."
So there can be a cross-over of the two groups, as it's possible for one person to have both oral and genital herpes.
The link I posted has a link to the stats from Public Health England. It also has a lot of information which I hope will help the OP.
Ok, I thought that was the case that you might be looking at maybe a US site. That makes perfect sense. :) Hope the OP gets the help she needs.
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If you google 'herpes stigma' there's a bit of reading there about how it has been calculatedly overblown by pharmaceutical companies for profit. In reality, it's a manageable virus that most of the population have in its dormant form anyway.
OP I know things seem rubbish now, but once you've cleared up and through the worst of it you'll be able to get yourself on your feet again. Hopefully the person you saw at Walmart was mistaken. All you can do now is wait for your results and in the meantime chat with a sexual health nurse or doctor who can get you clued up on everything.
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Most of us by the time we're 50 will have at least one form of the virus.
Many people never have symptoms or they are so mild they go unnoticed. Lots of us have the virus and don't know.
It's not seen as a big medical problem and people are not routinely screened for it at GUM clinics.
It's highly stigmatised but rarely leads to greater health problems like Chlamydia.
My advice would be to go to a proper GUM clinic. Not work with an outbreak and take antivirals.
VCs stats look right to me and herpes.org.uk is a good resource.
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I bought some
Do you take them everyday ?
No, you just start taking them if you get any symptoms i.e pain (very rare)...then it clears up within hours xx
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Try to get plenty of rest and sleep, plenty of exercise, eat properly and avoid stress as they are all triggers. Also the obvious one is to avoid sex and all sexual activities whilst having an outbreak and for at least a week or so AFTER the sores have completely disappeared to minimise infecting anyone else. Also wash hands frequently and avoid touching the affected area and other parts of your body including your eyes as you can spread it around.
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This advice above makes it seem like outbreaks are common but they are actually very rare...
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This advice above makes it seem like outbreaks are common but they are actually very rare...
I think it depends on the individual. My mum suffers from them on her face and she has them fairly frequently as in maybe once every couple of months sometimes more frequently then that. I've known other working ladies to have them down below fairly frequently and in other cases, other than an initial outbreak or two nothing after that or maybe they just weren't showing symptoms. People that I know that have it have said that they tend to get them more frequently when they are tired and/or run down or if under a lot of stress.
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I think, as a general rule, herpes on the face is a lot more common and linked to stress and genital herpes is linked to friction and so can be managed better.
I think if you have it you know it's not as bad as it sounds. I didn't even know I had it till some guy told me he had suddenly contracted it and then I got an outbreak shortly after. It's bad at the first outbreak I suspect because it can seem like thrush and so some people may be taking the wrong medication etc...once you get the right medication, it's OK. I know there are so-called complications but it's better to remain positive as there is no cure so once you have it, you just have to get on with it. I could have spent the last few years freaking out about it but nothing would have changed. It hasn't affected my life at all. In terms of punters, if they wear condoms, why is it a problem? For those punters who want BB and the escorts who do that, that surely is the risk the man takes as an adult?
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Shingles are also a form of herpes caused by the chicken pox virus. Once in a blue moon I have a 5p size patch appear on my backside I can go years without it appearing, usually its if I get the flu or I'm unwell which is not often but when it appears it lasts about a week.
Genital herpes can appear anywhere under the waist, including buttocks. Have you had your swabs taken? Unless it is confirmed by the lab, it could also be herpes. Lots of people believe it's shingles whilst it's herpes simplex, a different virus. I have seen shingles (e.g. healthcare background), they appear in cluster.
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My only worry now is that I could have more than just genital herpes.
My mom is here and I feel way better
She said I don't have HIV but like my worry still there about it :FF
Apparently HIV is harder to get though ? And I never did bbfs
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My only worry now is that I could have more than just genital herpes.
My mom is here and I feel way better
She said I don't have HIV but like my worry still there about it :FF
Apparently HIV is harder to get though ? And I never did bbfs
Herpes is one of the easiest STIs to get because it's passed skin to skin, and a condom only cover the penis.
If you've had a STI screen (from a proper clinic) then you have nothing to worry about. I go for a full screen every month. I am fully prepared for getting something at some point, at which point I'll stop working, take treatment and not work again until I'm clear.
If you worked in an end-of-life hospice you'd be expected to declare any episodes of D&V or cold, etc.
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I am fully prepared for getting something at some point, at which point I'll stop working, take treatment and not work again until I'm clear.
Some STD's are not curable though and also, we do this primarily for the money. Just because an escort gets herpes doesn't mean she should stop working. She still has the issue that she had before she didn't have the herpes-a need for finances. I agree that an escort shouldn't work if they are aware they have an outbreak of course.
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I often look at this way, nobody wants to think it's STD when suddenly blusters, ulcers or round raised mark on buttocks or in genitals, appear, especially, in men. They self-diagnose, "shingles" . Or, GP might have misdiagnosed it without sending samples to the labs. I'm sure we regularly encounter men with a history of genital herpes without any visible sores, never been diagnosed, but those who are still contagious all the same, thinking, "yeah, I get shingles over my penis on and off". Oh yeah., it makes sense (mild sarcasm). I might consider getting alcohol wipes, not joking. :-\
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Shingles is rare in the under-50s I think though? And most common aged 70+, hence the vaccination campaign.
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Genital herpes can appear anywhere under the waist, including buttocks. Have you had your swabs taken? Unless it is confirmed by the lab, it could also be herpes. Lots of people believe it's shingles whilst it's herpes simplex, a different virus. I have seen shingles (e.g. healthcare background), they appear in cluster.
Got the swabs done earlier today ! Ty for asking
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I think, as a general rule, herpes on the face is a lot more common and linked to stress and genital herpes is linked to friction and so can be managed better.
I think if you have it you know it's not as bad as it sounds. I didn't even know I had it till some guy told me he had suddenly contracted it and then I got an outbreak shortly after. It's bad at the first outbreak I suspect because it can seem like thrush and so some people may be taking the wrong medication etc...once you get the right medication, it's OK. I know there are so-called complications but it's better to remain positive as there is no cure so once you have it, you just have to get on with it. I could have spent the last few years freaking out about it but nothing would have changed. It hasn't affected my life at all. In terms of punters, if they wear condoms, why is it a problem? For those punters who want BB and the escorts who do that, that surely is the risk the man takes as an adult?
Oh sorry that you got it :-\ it's the worst pain in my life by far. Could hardly wipe myself
BUT I managed to get acyclovir and I also ordered extras on the internet. Whew !
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From what I have read, I believe if your immune system is low you are also more prone to an outbreak, so eating a healthy diet and maybe taking a supplement like zinc could help keep them to a minimum.
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What I would be wary of, in particular, in escorting, there must be men, who deliberately try to pass it on.
I have had someone who's ok, but whenever I gave him OWO, my throat was really strange. Some of these men may/might be carrying something, but they never tell you. 2) they are unaware of the disease (maybe, symptom-free or little irritation, only to him) and remain undiagnosed or he doesn't think it would cause anything sinister or if it's going to be passed on. 3) Those who were given this disease by women will try to "get even" by passing it onto other women. (Remember there are some men, who are capable of being vindictive and cruel.)
There are cases in the US that men, knowingly passing genital herpes well proved to be an offence. As someone else said earlier, it "could" be a serious chronic disease, and it will stay with you FOR LIFE. I wondered if it's the same in the UK?
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From what I have read, I believe if your immune system is low you are also more prone to an outbreak, so eating a healthy diet and maybe taking a supplement like zinc could help keep them to a minimum.
I have a good immune system, I feel like The Rock.
So me getting beat down by this so badly is really shitty
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I often look at this way, nobody wants to think it's STD when suddenly blusters, ulcers or round raised mark on buttocks or in genitals, appear, especially, in men. They self-diagnose, "shingles" . Or, GP might have misdiagnosed it without sending samples to the labs. I'm sure we regularly encounter men with a history of genital herpes without any visible sores, never been diagnosed, but those who are still contagious all the same, thinking, "yeah, I get shingles over my penis on and off". Oh yeah., it makes sense (mild sarcasm). I might consider getting alcohol wipes, not joking. :-\
Oh my, yes!
There have been a few men who had been seeing me about once a week, for about a year, that I agreed to allow bbfs AFTER they had a full panel, including viral antibodies. Of the three, one's tests came back with HSV 2 (genital). Weird, right? Why would he do the tests (several hundred dollars in the US), knowing what they'd say?
Like you said, he said he'd been getting "rashes" periodically since college! Are you kidding me?!?
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Oh my, yes!
There have been a few men who had been seeing me about once a week, for about a year, that I agreed to allow bbfs AFTER they had a full panel, including viral antibodies. Of the three, one's tests came back with HSV 2 (genital). Weird, right? Why would he do the tests (several hundred dollars in the US), knowing what they'd say?
Like you said, he said he'd been getting "rashes" periodically since college! Are you kidding me?!?
I would never do bbfs :-\
Sorry about that
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Oh my, yes!
There have been a few men who had been seeing me about once a week, for about a year, that I agreed to allow bbfs AFTER they had a full panel, including viral antibodies. Of the three, one's tests came back with HSV 2 (genital). Weird, right? Why would he do the tests (several hundred dollars in the US), knowing what they'd say?
Like you said, he said he'd been getting "rashes" periodically since college! Are you kidding me?!?
You do know that someone can get a full screen pass and the same day fuck someone catch something and then mosey over to yours for BB with their 'clean' certificate......why would you risk yourself and your business
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At the end of the day it is a risk civvy life or professional life, we have unprotected sex with our longterm partners but we do not know whether they play away or see other wg's and whether or not they have protected sex with those individuals.
It is the same in our professional lives, our clients might have protected sex with fellow sex workers but on their nights out or one night stands can the same be said and is their then sexual participant a clean player.
Sex is a constant risk and Herpes as said everybody carries the virus and remains dormant until you either have a very stressfull period or fall very ill. But what are we going to do, take kissing off the table and reverse oral, which can be done but unfortunately we live in a time where men do not see it that way and even though they deem us dirty and disease ridden are prepared to take that chance not considering he consequences.
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Precisely. I wasn't escorting at all when I contracted genital herpes.
In my experience, it's men who are the risk, civvy or punters because none I have met have ever shown any concern about contracting an STI; only getting their end away.
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At the end of the day it is a risk civvy life or professional life, we have unprotected sex with our longterm partners but we do not know whether they play away or see other wg's and whether or not they have protected sex with those individuals.
It is the same in our professional lives, our clients might have protected sex with fellow sex workers but on their nights out or one night stands can the same be said and is their then sexual participant a clean player.
Sex is a constant risk and Herpes as said everybody carries the virus and remains dormant until you either have a very stressfull period or fall very ill. But what are we going to do, take kissing off the table and reverse oral, which can be done but unfortunately we live in a time where men do not see it that way and even though they deem us dirty and disease ridden are prepared to take that chance not considering he consequences.
Which is why I made the decision to not have unprotected intercourse with my long-term partner, even after marriage. Mistrust? Nope I just want to be sure everyone is protected (including him) - far, far simpler that way rather than wondering.
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Precisely. I wasn't escorting at all when I contracted genital herpes.
In my experience, it's men who are the risk, civvy or punters because none I have met have ever shown any concern about contracting an STI; only getting their end away.
Once I was asked by a "punter" whom I had seen twice before, he insisted on bareback to which I declined. Later, I asked if he's getting checked out for his disease status. He said, he never knows where to go to get it checked and certainly, he won't be asking his GP to do it. ::) I doubt he would bother until his cock starts to fall off. That was the last time I saw him. I noticed he visited someone, who offered bareback sex. Too risky.
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My ex fella, said, when I confronted him about his apparent lack of concern about contraception in any sense prior to shagging me:
"Well, you're OK aren't you? I know I am!"
When I asked how he knew I was "OK", he replied that he "would know/be able to see".
Needless to say, he had never had himself checked out either.
I can't believe I carried on seeing him now, looking back.
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It's much harder when feelings get involved. *Pat on your back.*
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It's much harder when feelings get involved. *Pat on your back.*
Huh?
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I can't believe I carried on seeing him now, looking back.
I know it's gone off-topic. Sorry about that.
Do you know who had passed this onto you? If your client knew he was contagious (subclinical or clinical flare) and he still had sex with you (how so selfish without any consideration for the consequences), could he be sued for what he did and for compromising your ability to work e.g. damage? Hope you feel better today :-*
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Huh?
Take no notice, Kiara.
Lucie, nobody is getting sued. As you've said, it's off topic and unhelpful so whilst you're welcome to keep it up please do so via PM :).
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There are zero topics on this for women.
If I had a small herpetic rash on my groin and had protected sexual intercourse with multiple men, what can you catch from that? Thank you x
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If you're going through an active outbreak of herpes you can easily pass it on, condom or no condom.
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Well given that Herpes can be passed on skin to skin and condoms do not cover the balls (and in fact can ride up slightly during intercourse)do you really want to take the risk of still passing this on to someone?I personally wouldn't have any sex if I had a Herpes outbreak.
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There are zero topics on this for women.
If I had a small herpetic rash on my groin and had protected sexual intercourse with multiple men, what can you catch from that? Thank you x
You will probably infect multiple men.
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And ruin your rep if anyone does catch anything, just take the time off, its extremely careless to work knowing your infectious
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Will it be wise? I'd say, no. :-\
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Check out 'Molluscum Contagiosum' virus, also known as 'water warts'. Not a STI as such, it's very common for kids to get it on their tummies, etc, and seems to affect people with a low immune system, however, it CAN be passed on sexually.
It doesn't cause much bother other than the fact that it looks unsightly and can be a bugger to get rid of (quickly), though should clear up on its own, if you're prepared to wait months! Not practical in our line of work. :FF