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Freya

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Pros and cons of incall/outcall versus apartment
« on: 16 October 2013, 01:03:22 am »
Losing work because of limited time for work at home, doing outcall only probably won't pay all the bills so considering looking for a flat, but flat broke! Any suggestions, don't want to lock myself into long contract for accommodation. Am a nervous wreck working from home in case child care arrangements come adrift and would strongly prefer to separate work completely from home. Anyone gone through this deliberation and have any advice please. I live in Cornwall so lots of holiday lets but expensive to do all the time and have another job 3 days per week. In some ways if I stopped the other job I could take more bookings but like the balance and don't want to put all my eggs in one basket because ANY job is quite hard to come by in Cornwall and giving the 'day' job up might mean never getting work other than escorting.....Maybe that's okay, I just don't know so in meantime would prefer to hold onto it and look for cheap alternative accommodation options, again any ideas gratefully received.

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Re: Pros and cons of incall/outcall versus apartment
« Reply #1 on: 16 October 2013, 08:58:25 am »
Having just been through an upside down time I looked at all the options available to me and decided to rent an apartment where I could live and work from.  This has meant putting all my personal things back in storeage.  I did have another job but wanted to give escorting a go full time.  I don't have kids and it is just me.  You have to do what's right for you, like you I looked at holiday lets but expensive, I looked at having 2 different places again expensive and looked at touring constantly but exhausting.  Weigh up the options for you taking into account costs and income.  When I first got into this a few years back I had a good 9 to 5 job which I hated but it paid ok.  I used to look at my phone ringing all day and think I could be earning my escort wage instead of my normal wage so gave it up eventually to concentrate on escorting.  When this is your only source of income it's amazing how much harder you work.  But like I say you have to do what's right for you, I don't have kids and family etc so it makes it a lot easier.  Good luck whatever you do
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Re: Pros and cons of incall/outcall versus apartment
« Reply #2 on: 16 October 2013, 02:45:00 pm »
Yes, thanks for that. I am tempted to give up the other job and concentrate on this as then I could be flexible around family more for instance missed Harvest Festival yesterday at daughters school and no give on day job so missed it much to equal disappointment on my and daughter's part. If it was an escorting day I'd have managed to get the 40 mins off to see her. Also doing escorting and then other job later in the afternoon difficult for me because I'm having trouble compartmentalising it. For me it needs to be either a non escorting day job day or pure escorting day. I thought over time it would become easier but for me it isn't. I'm having trouble playing sub games in the morning and then one and a half hours later being in a work meeting, especially if the morning was intense. Over all it is the escorting job that I love and the day job that I like but I'm not a spring chicken so don't know how much longer I'd get the amount of work from escorting that I do now to rely on for the bills.

Horrors: today with client and had thankfully locked my door which I don't always do because a work colleague came round to see where I was, thought that I'd missed a meeting and since I never usually do and wasn't answering that work mobile they decided that there must be 'something very wrong' - they had got it wrong not me. I know though that it was a thoughtful act but.....tense as I stood bent over the bed in my best red set not worried about client whacking my bottom but the sound it was making! Had a wicked thought but no, It definately won't work with them acting as my security buddies!! and that's another thing, I haven't got a security buddy/driver, I just pretend to clients that I have one when on outcall.

I only work from home when the kids are at school and if them needing to come home then it would be me going to collect them but still don't like clients seeing kids stuff and so always put their photos in the dresser drawer which also makes me feel sad - so I'll have to resolve it somehow, hey maybe one of those insulated home office buildings in the garden...? Sorry for the really long reply. I'm usually quiet but it's all on my mind at the moment. Actually getting a separate place to work out of would be better....cost and commitment are the two things getting in the way.

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Re: Pros and cons of incall/outcall versus apartment
« Reply #3 on: 16 October 2013, 04:51:27 pm »
Hey Freya, I'm in the same position. I'm a newbie and only offer outcalls. I'm married with kids and a foster daughter so definately cant do incalls but I have to turn lots of work away. I dont mind the hotel ones so much but hate going into a home with pics of wife and kids on display. I live in fear of wife/partner walking in and attacking me. Also makes you feel a pretty shit morally going to family homes. I know that clients cant all be divorced/widowed/single but its easier to be in denial in a hotel room. Hope that makes sense.
I too live in a tourist area but the holiday lets are so expensive its not feasible. Ideally I'd find somewhere to rent with another escort or two but after research I'm concerned about it being considered a brothel which is illegal. Might have to consider renting a hotel room on a weekly basis and trying to get some bookings and just camming in the room if I cant get bookings but it still eats into your profits.
It's a dilemma for sure.
Good luck wih whatever you choose to do regarding your normal. I gave up my job when i started camming as I was up all hours making good money and needed to sleep in the day when kids went to school lol.
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Re: Pros and cons of incall/outcall versus apartment
« Reply #4 on: 17 October 2013, 02:40:09 am »
Hi Hannah
Yes I thought that the situation I have with a regular was tricky enough. Go there usually every 2 weeks and often say the weekend. He obviously has a a partner, not married and no kids but I still feel uncomfortable because he expects me to use her en suite, sleep on her side of the bed, sit on her side of the sofa and if when don't go out to eat we eat at 'home'. Took me a while to realise that we are eating the food that she prepares for him when she's away - at first thought that he was a fantastic cook! She is obviously very organised and particular about of her things. Everything in clear Perspex boxes and labelled even though you can see inside. Surely she must know, I would in a minute flat. When I turn up there, it's deep in the country, I usually have to walk through the house looking for him, honestly sometimes I feel like shouting out "honey I'm home". It's bizarre. The big thing that worries me is that there is always a loaded shotgun in the hall and bedroom and I panic that she might come home and shoot me. Re thought of renting a hotel room by the week wouldn't they notice? But at least your'e not tied in to it beyond a week max. Did outcall to new client who wanted to give me CP. meet was in a barn, I had to walk up a lane and across field in darkness, boy am I glad to be home now  - Have to say though that although it was a bit strong, covered in bruises but did feel that I could trust him at time of booking. Just started to get a bit worried walking down dark lane in the woods.. He did send an email to say thank you and that he hoped that I'd got home safe and that he thought that I was very brave to 'do what you do', so that was really lovely but even he must have thought that I was crazy to take such a chance. Must sort out accommodation. There aren't big chain hotels down here and everyone knows each other.

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Re: Pros and cons of incall/outcall versus apartment
« Reply #5 on: 18 October 2013, 11:22:38 am »
OMG Freya, big respect lady! Cant imagine ever being brave enough for that. I got goosebumps and heebijeebies (sp?) just reading that. You should keep a blog if you dont already lol. A loaded gun?!?  :o yikes!!!! And if shes so organised and anal she must know someone has been in her home surely to goodness. How bloody awful for you.
I'm really lucky as I live in massive tourist area so I could book a different hotel every week lol.
Good luck sorting somewhere safe for in calls, you really do need it xxxx

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Re: Pros and cons of incall/outcall versus apartment
« Reply #6 on: 21 October 2013, 12:33:54 am »
Yes I keep thinking that surely she must know. His maintenance men are renovating my house at the moment and they often complain about her treatment of them, probably because they are trying to provoke a reaction off me, as they are clearly wondering what's going on and see me at both houses. Last week they were complaining that one of them had been told off for using one of the bathrooms in the house instead of in the chalet outside and that she knew because she always fold the toilet paper in a V at the end like in some hotels... So I really don't know how she can miss the fact that I move in every second weekend, he's even started stocking in earl grey for me?

Re thinking of getting a place with one or two other escorts and being worried that it will be illegal, I asked a policeman and he said that he thought that it was only considered as a brothel when 3 or more women worked from the same place. He then said that in any case there wasn't really any prostitution in Cornwall. I just asked him if he'd like a coffee or a nice cup of Earl Grey.

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Re: Pros and cons of incall/outcall versus apartment
« Reply #7 on: 21 October 2013, 02:02:49 pm »
Re thinking of getting a place with one or two other escorts and being worried that it will be illegal, I asked a policeman and he said that he thought that it was only considered as a brothel when 3 or more women worked from the same place. He then said that in any case there wasn't really any prostitution in Cornwall. I just asked him if he'd like a coffee or a nice cup of Earl Grey.

The average police constable won't know a lot about the prostitution laws, because it isn't his job to - whether or not more than one person working from premises is a brothel isn't really up for question, even if many people don't know the specifics. What you need to worry about is whether your arrangement would put you at risk of prosecution for brothel management or assisting in it (working at a brothel is not illegal and nor is visiting one) and whether anybody is likely to care enough to report you in the first place.

If you have an arrangement where two of you rent a flat and work singly on different days of the week (still a brothel), don't work late at night or make a lot of noise, don't have a massive footfall (such as 10+ short appointments most days or anything else which equates to lots of men coming and going all the time) you would be very, very unlucky to have problems. Basically, don't draw attention to yourself and don't annoy anybody.

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Re: Pros and cons of incall/outcall versus apartment
« Reply #8 on: 22 October 2013, 12:16:41 am »
I prefer doing my 'incalls' from hotels. i use hotels around ?30 a night and dont stay in a hotel more than one night. I find it safer and less stressful. I am in control if it my room, i am not happy doing outcalls to client's hotel room or home.

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Re: Pros and cons of incall/outcall versus apartment
« Reply #9 on: 22 October 2013, 01:17:12 am »
I get paranoid even at the thought of using hotels, couldn't help but notice however that a local hotel, where I'd gone to see friends to me looked as if it would work. It has a day spa so plenty of visitors coming and going and you get to the stairs for rooms before the reception and ?59, how many clients do you think it is okay to have calling before suspicions are raised? Actually as I type this I realise that it is a dumb question in that it would only take one client in fancy dress and another insisting on walking like John Cleese in Monty Python to reception to make even 1 too many but you know what I mean....just have this fear that someone at the hotel would out me, " excuse me madam, it's obvious that you are a prostitute, leave immediately, and by the way our chambermaid sees you in the local supermarket with you kids every week". I mean in theory it's nothing to be ashamed of but if I
were to be challenged, not sure how I'd react. Any suggestions for a dignified response?

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Re: Pros and cons of incall/outcall versus apartment
« Reply #10 on: 22 October 2013, 09:26:43 pm »
" excuse me madam, it's obvious that you are a prostitute, leave immediately, and by the way our chambermaid sees you in the local supermarket with you kids every week". I mean in theory it's nothing to be ashamed of but if I
were to be challenged, not sure how I'd react. Any suggestions for a dignified response?

In the incredibly unlikely event that this would happen (and apart from the veiled blackmail threat at the end, which the police would no doubt enjoy as much as the hotels owner or the protagonist's line manager) your response is to either deny everything and demand a refund which if you don't show your face is the way to go, or brazen it out and ask which of their hotel policies specifically prevent guests in their hotel from having visitors.

A hotel would have to be certain to the point of actually having a member of staff call, book and get your room number and they're not going to do this unless they know exactly who you are (even if they think you're a prossie, they don't have any way of knowing which prossie) before they took the chance of accusing random single women of being prostitutes, largely because the potential fallout if they got it wrong would be far more horrendous than just letting you get on with it :).

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Re: Pros and cons of incall/outcall versus apartment
« Reply #11 on: 24 October 2013, 08:44:03 pm »
Yes thanks, that helps because I always feel better if I've got some sort of answer, so think if it did happen, I'd brazen it out and demand a refund or apology maybe. Happened to me once in Greece you see and it was awwwwful. Also an ex boyfriend did try to blackmail me with it once when I left him and in a 9 page ranting profane, highly explicit letter told me that I would lose my day job, my children would find out and I would appear in papers and had to choose between leaving him or my day job, he told me that I couldn't have both. After being paralysed for days I finally told my best friend who hadn't known about my escorting and encouraged me to go to the police. it was awful taking it to the police and sitting there while it was read, the female officer was furious, you'd have thought he'd addressed it to her personally, it was passed on to CID who in the end didn't prosecute but boy did they come down heavy on him. They said even if it were true he wasn't entitled to blackmail me, he got served a PIN notice and I have to say they were very supportive to me.