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Re: OWO or OW
« Reply #45 on: 26 June 2012, 04:01:02 pm »
I have always done OW.... and never found it to be a real problem... Get asked at times .."would you do it for a bit more money" ...
Years ago when I started working.. you didnt really hear of girls offering OWO  but that has changed now... and i see some girls on AW offering Bare back.. Whats that about  :(
I remember doing my first Duo many years ago with a girl who was really new to Escorting... we were massaging the guy and he said to the other girl... I would like some oral now please.. SO off she went to that end while i carried on pushing my titties in his face... after a few mins, i could see she was still fiddling around down that end, but  no oral going on... So I turned round to see if she was ok and she was trying to put a condom on him.. I said here I will help... when I looked he had one on already, she told me she was only going to suck him with 2 condoms for health and safety reasons... I nearly fell off the bed laughing.... moment was sort of lost.. poor punter   :-X
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Re: OWO or OW
« Reply #46 on: 26 June 2012, 05:26:30 pm »
When I first started 10+ years ago I used to offer OWO because I felt it was more natural and I wasn?t really aware of OW. But after a few years a client had a health scare (and suggested it was from unprotected oral with me ? I was tested clear though) and this made me think more about it. Then I got a serious BF and decided I couldn?t take the risk of passing an infection onto him so decided to only offer OW. I was worried my bookings would decrease but it hasn?t made a difference; for all those men who only want OWO there are as many who only book ladies who are strictly OW. Swings and roundabouts, so go with what you?re happy with is my attitude. I?m really happy not offering OWO as there?s always a barrier between me and my clients? leaky or stinky cocks, and I?m far more relaxed giving oral now.

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« Reply #47 on: 26 June 2012, 07:28:55 pm »
I've always offered OWO as I've only been in the biz 2 and a half years since I was 18 and it seemed the norm, I dont mind doing it when the guys cock is clean etc however if it isnt or he is to puby I'll avoid doing it and shove a condom on whilst making up an excuse

however recently I've taken it off my Enjoys list and replaced it with covered, I havnt seen a difference in bookings (not enough to affect me or for me to notice, anyway) and I've done it mainly for the health reasons

Working in my first parlour the receptionist was a 40 odd year old ex working girl and she would tell me how apparently 20 years ago a punter would be expected to pay extra for kissing (Or in her actual words- '20 years ago you didnt kiss a fucking punter!!!' ;D) but now they just expect it included and generally expect most services (inc OWO), she said this was because of the influx of migrant workers who would offer these services, causing other girls to follow suit as to get business

I see this myself on AW with a lot of girls often claiming to be east european popping up offering every service under the sun inc BB often for as little as ?80ph sometimes even less!

this is fine by me as its up to them what they charge etc but I do feel it changes the dynamics for other girls who dont want to risk their health for such little money

I feel weird thinking about my days in other parlours now where I was expected to give full service inc kissing and owo for just ?30 in my pocket per half hour customer, girls wernt even allowed to charge extra and the fact it was inc in price made it very hard for girls not offering OWO to get work

makes me think is it really worth risking your health for that much? and this is a well known parlour in my area that is run good with nice facilities

I would say I prefer OWO with clients than kissing which for the most part I dont really like, yet this is the service I find clients expect the most and Ive often got the impression a lot of clients dont want to see WGs that dont kiss

I found the demand for kissing odd when i first started as I generally believed it was sex the clients were after and not some kind of romantic experience, I have to admit I find it nauseating kissing some clients and it just feels extremely weird and wrong to me (although I cant say this is the case 100% of the time, it really depends on the client) as it really is something I only like to do with someone I fancy and, these days with my man, love

« Last Edit: 26 June 2012, 07:36:16 pm by Kimmy »

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« Reply #48 on: 26 June 2012, 09:18:43 pm »
Everyone has different boundaries, and while yes, norms have changed over time, people still get work offering different things.

If kissing (presumably 'French kissing') is affecting you like that, untick it as a like on AW. You'll be happier and it may well show in terms of what the client experiences.
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« Reply #49 on: 26 June 2012, 11:19:59 pm »
Everyone has different boundaries, and while yes, norms have changed over time, people still get work offering different things.

If kissing (presumably 'French kissing') is affecting you like that, untick it as a like on AW. You'll be happier and it may well show in terms of what the client experiences.

i have it at discretion on aw but may remove it, i do kiss clients but as I said dont enjoy it all the time, however if I really dont like it I do tell the client no

i dont put up with anything I dont like from clients, thanks for the advice  :)


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« Reply #50 on: 22 December 2012, 11:47:08 pm »
I feel really uncomfortable with OWO, I know the risk is low for hiv. But I know a few guys who claim that's how they caught it. Personally, I see it as Russian roulette. There only so many times you can be lucky...  In  my private life, I done owo all the time  (so many times) and still clean but I have had some scares and see the stigma attached to it. I am thinking of using sagami condoms for oral, apparently they are so thin, it the closest thing to barebacking. I had a friend who passed away from HIV and it's my life over money.  When I do get up and running, if I find I can't get customers  returning because of that, guess I will have to be broke. Just nice to have piece of mind.

BTW, each to the own, I have respect for people who do OWO. Just I have personal issues. Plus, for ladies, Hiv is much less in the heterosexual community.

As for your friend, she need to make her own mind up, what she chooses to do with the infomation is up to her! There many disease out there and it not impossible to get them. Those are the odds.


Anyone here tried Japanese super thin condoms for oral?

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« Reply #51 on: 16 May 2013, 08:32:16 pm »
Do those who give oral without not worry?. I didn't worry too much as the risk is miminal the doctor explained compared to vigina penetration. But after my phone rang he started saying if he can't cum in 30 minutes so not sure blah blah. I replied with well he would be the first. Unless  he had a medical condition. He then said what if he had aids. Omg.!! I said sorry as thought misheard then he hung up. Now putting this into perspective would you say that I am being naive working giving oral without?. I worry a lot about most things anyway as panic about everything.

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« Reply #52 on: 16 May 2013, 08:51:28 pm »
Well as we really don't know what many diseases "look like" barring the obvious of course, I am not willing to put my health and life at risk but others are.
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« Reply #53 on: 16 May 2013, 08:52:37 pm »
I wouldn't do it, I was readying a gay mens magazine in the clinic waiting room today (well there wasn't a Cosmo !) and it said that the risk of getting HIV/AIDS from oral was 3% but you need to take into account how more often people would like oral etc...

Um also I got chlamydia from my first boyfriend from oral.. no symptoms.. awful thing !!

Try to stay safe :)
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« Reply #54 on: 16 May 2013, 09:00:36 pm »
I wouldn't do it, I was readying a gay mens magazine in the clinic waiting room today (well there wasn't a Cosmo !) and it said that the risk of getting HIV/AIDS from oral was 3% but you need to take into account how more often people would like oral etc...

Um also I got chlamydia from my first boyfriend from oral.. no symptoms.. awful thing !!

Try to stay safe :)


I didn't look at it like that, but yeah know that the 3% risk must be increased to a higher risk after 200+ clients.  I actually felt good giving oral with in my last booking. As I give  with or without depending clients wishes.

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« Reply #55 on: 16 May 2013, 09:03:01 pm »
The risk is supposed to be minimal but it's still there, so up to each individual how they chose to proceed. It's not just HIV a dose of chlamydia or gonorrhea isn't going to make a very good day or week for most people, let alone your business.

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« Reply #56 on: 16 May 2013, 09:12:50 pm »
I would have thought that if only offered oral without that business would be very dead?. Only because many ask if do oral without. Are there ladies who are kept busy offering oral without only?.

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« Reply #57 on: 16 May 2013, 09:25:01 pm »
I was reading a gay mens magazine in the clinic waiting room today (..) and it said that the risk of getting HIV/AIDS from oral was 3% but you need to take into account how more often people would like oral etc...

Oral is the almost universal sex act between men, so the HIV risks for oral have been studied for ages. Ghod knows where they got 3% figure from - that's the top end for being on the receiving end of bareback anal with an HIV+ man.

For oral, the top end estimate is 0.04% (4 in 10,000) per CIM with an HIV+ man. Personally, I think that this is an over estimate - the study it came from made some assumptions I think are wrong - and there's evidence saying the risk is somewhere between nil and almost nil.

If you do OWO but not CIM, the HIV risk is nil.

There are other things you can catch. Whether or not you do OWO depends on how you balance the risks and rewards: personal, professional and medical. There are loads of threads about it here, because it is one of the classic 'some people do, some people don't, it's totally up to you' issues. If you do it, make sure you let the clinic know so they include throat swabs.
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« Reply #58 on: 16 May 2013, 09:29:10 pm »
I would have thought that if only offered oral without that business would be very dead?. Only because many ask if do oral without. Are there ladies who are kept busy offering oral without only?.

There's a market of men who want OWO. There's a market of men who want OW. There's a bigger market of men who don't care either way.

A search will find some examples, including people like Amy who have gone from OWO to OW without noticeably losing client numbers as a result.
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Re: OWO or OW
« Reply #59 on: 16 May 2013, 09:57:39 pm »
Wow. Thanks to xw5 for that super info!

One thing not mentioned though is how much difference swallow/not swallow would make?

I offer owo... and do worry about it a lot. I always prefer to use a condom though and only do without if client specially requests. I only do it so as not to lose business from those who only want without.
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