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nachos

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« Reply #120 on: 03 March 2015, 11:50:03 am »
The risk involved are of course very substantial

It depends on just what you're talking about.

I meant to say the risks. :)
Well apart from standard STDs there s a danger of getting infected with something my worse such  as AIDS or Hepatitis.
If you have any cavity in your teeth and in general if you have any mouth ulcers you are at high risk of getting infected.

I always make sure I have frequent dental appointments as well as dental hygiene appointments and so far touch wood nothing happened.
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« Reply #121 on: 03 March 2015, 11:56:30 am »
The risk involved are of course very substantial

It depends on just what you're talking about.

I meant to say the risks. :)
Well apart from standard STDs there s a danger of getting infected with something my worse such  as AIDS or Hepatitis.
If you have any cavity in your teeth and in general if you have any mouth ulcers you are at high risk of getting infected.

I always make sure I have frequent dental appointments as well as dental hygiene appointments and so far touch wood nothing happened.

Whilst I agree completely on the importance of maintaining good oral and dental health, I don't believe there are any proven cases on record of anybody contracting HIV (you can't 'catch' AIDS, and your GUM can explain the difference) via oral sex either giving or receiving, and irrespective of gender combination.

That doesn't mean it's never happened, but the chances are infinitessimal. I don't offer OWO or RO, but I can't say the thought of catching HIV from either had even crossed my mind.

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« Reply #122 on: 03 March 2015, 12:31:04 pm »
For HIV, the risk per CIM with someone who is HIV+ (the large majority of clients aren't going to be*) is somewhere between 2 in 10,000 and nil. The higher figure came from a US study of gay men in three cities that looked at what they did over a period of time and who got infected. Because oral is the (almost) universal sex act between men, they had to do some assumptions that not everyone agrees with in order to come up with the final result, and it is definitely at the high end of possible reality - there are plenty of studies saying the risk is much less and quite possibly nil. Without CIM, any risk is so near nil that anyone unlucky enough to catch it that way would probably be struck by lightning then crushed by a steamroller on the way to be tested.**

For HepB, you want to be vaccinated - it's more infectious than HIV.

For things like gonorrhoea and chlamydia, it's throat swab time - the bacterials are more infectious still and outside the urethra most cases don't have any symptoms.

* Although the infection rates for men who have sex with men are significantly higher than the general population, this is still true for people without vaginas: 'about' one in eight gay men in London are HIV+ = seven out of eight are HIV-.

** Ditto the risk for giving oral to an HIV+ woman.
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« Reply #123 on: 05 March 2015, 01:22:14 am »
i will do without only at my discretion and i do have similar MO to sassy.  hardly foolproof, but if there is anything a little suss i will cover it up.

i have had gonorrhoea in my throat, but i manage to get that lovely little present off a boyfriend i had been with for several months who had though it would be a good idea to go and sleep with his ex.  he blamed me (i wasn't escorting at the time) despite the fact i had been with nobody bar him since we got together. 

lesson learned the hard way.  had everything tested and fortunately that was all i had caught from the maggot!

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« Reply #124 on: 05 March 2015, 05:13:57 pm »
I do owo, cim, deep throat and swallow. I love giving oral, and I personally don't enjoy it as much with a condom when I've had the rare client ask for ow. I ALWAYS get clients to wash up when they arrive so hygiene isn't a problem. If I've suspected that a client may have thrush or something else, I don't take the risk, I make them put a condom on. That being said, you can't tell if someone has an sti by just looking at their bits, it's a risk I take. I got tonsillitis a few months ago, was off work till it was 100% gone, I still asked for swabs to be taken at the doctors even though the course of antibiotics were for both throat sti's and tonsillitis as I wanted to know. Came back as tonsillitis.

At the end of the day it's up to you what your comfortable doing and also which you enjoy. Plenty of us do owo, plenty don't. As others have said, plenty of clients out their who specifically look for wgs who don't do owoway as there are as many who only want wgs who do do owo and plenty more who aren't bothered either way. So business wise it makes no difference.

Hope my two cents helps  :) xox

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« Reply #125 on: 05 March 2015, 05:18:41 pm »
Forgot to add, apart from one cold sore in the 2 years I've done this (which can occur from stress and other things aswell as sexually transmitted) I'm yet to catch something from oral sex *and I touch wood that I don't* lol xox

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« Reply #126 on: 06 March 2015, 01:58:14 am »
I only do OW and so far I've been as busy as I like.
why have cotton when you can have silk???

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« Reply #127 on: 06 March 2015, 08:40:37 am »
never have never will, I just couldnt, not even with a partner

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« Reply #128 on: 06 March 2015, 12:24:37 pm »
I used to until i started going on animal rescue sited and heard of men going abroad and using dog brothels, you just don't know where there sticking their dicks.

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« Reply #129 on: 06 March 2015, 02:17:16 pm »
Aw gawd Ellie that's horrible..!! surely that's not very common though..?!
I've been doing OWO and CIM for years and (touch wood) never caught anything..
I can always use my discretion but so far I've only had to use it once or twice, but it does always give you an "out" if
the client is really un-hygienic or anything else that might bother you why you'd rather not do OWO.
Never be afraid to use your discretion!!
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« Reply #130 on: 06 March 2015, 03:43:57 pm »
The primary source for that story doesn't seem to be entirely reliable. I've also understood that most of the people into bestiality want to be on the receiving end - there are a lot more sources of animal penis-shaped dildos than animal vagina/anus toys, for example - and with many un-neutered male dogs the problem wouldn't be trying to make it have sex with you, it is having to stop it...

But when it comes to clients and their penises, you can control whether or not it's been washed in the past few minutes and whether or not it has a condom on it. You can't control - or know - what they did with it in the hours, days, months and years before then.

The same applies to their mouths and hands* of course.

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« Reply #131 on: 07 June 2015, 09:23:01 pm »
I was offering owo for nearly a year now.. But i want to change to ow after reading a recent post on a punting site about how many guys actually cought something recently and they all seem to be sure they got it from owo... I dont know whether its 100% for sure but after reading in depth about the risk of owo im now more eager to change my service. When i started escorting i didnt offer owo and i cant say i was less busy then i am now although i still got days when ut wasnt busy as everybody get this kind of days. My only concern now is as i started to be less busy since last month i dont know if it will have some implications on my business if i start offering ow. I dont aim to see a lot of guys a day and i dont work long hours so if i get 2-3 bookings a day im fine with it.

I wanted to ask you ladies... The ones who offer ow, how do you find your work going? Is it ok or less busy, and do you offer other extras etc to make it up for owo?.. Thanks in advance

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« Reply #132 on: 07 June 2015, 09:42:09 pm »
I offer OW to new clients and i have some regulars witch i know them for some time and they are ok guys so i go OWO. Doing OWO you have a risk of getting gonorea , chlamydia, sifylis etc and i heard from the clinique were i do my tests that is hard to treat it if you have it in your troth.
When clients ask me on the phone if i do OWO i always say that depends and i will decide during our date so like this are already prepared that i may not do it and they say nothing when i put the condom on and i had lot's of them returning. I don't realy think that it can afect your work if you dont do it , this is my opinion about

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« Reply #133 on: 07 June 2015, 09:48:28 pm »
I've merged some of the (many) other discussions into this one for simplicity's sake and so it was a bit more recent, although there are more.

I haven't offered unprotected oral for five or six years and if it's made any difference to my business I haven't noticed. Punters for whom it's a dealbreaker just get replaced with punters who don't want unprotected services and/or wouldn't book somebody who does them - some are squeamish about kissing somebody who does, for example. The vast majority aren't really bothered if they want to see you and the rest you don't need to worry about because they'll just book somebody else :).

The services anybody offers or partakes of are their business completely, but you really ought to be more aware of the risks and if you're not, next time you go for your health check make sure they're explained properly. And thinking of OW as offering 'less' or as something you need to 'make up for' isn't helpful - it's a different way of working, that's all and you can make the fact you're taking health risks seriously a positive part of your marketing :).

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« Reply #134 on: 07 June 2015, 09:49:30 pm »
I offer OW to new clients and i have some regulars witch i know them for some time and they are ok guys so i go OWO. Doing OWO you have a risk of getting gonorea , chlamydia, sifylis etc and i heard from the clinique were i do my tests that is hard to treat it if you have it in your troth.
When clients ask me on the phone if i do OWO i always say that depends and i will decide during our date so like this are already prepared that i may not do it and they say nothing when i put the condom on and i had lot's of them returning. I don't realy think that it can afect your work if you dont do it , this is my opinion about

Yes i am aware of the std's you can get thats why i got scared and will not offer it anymore. I think that if you say on the phone that you offer it and then when they come and you dont do it they get upset and think " she lied for services just to get my money" which leads to bad reviews on forums etc. i dont trust regulars as they might be regulars to other girl as well so i cant be sure they come to me only... But thanks for responding im more reassured not to offer it now.