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amy

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Re: Overcautious screening?
« Reply #15 on: 09 April 2017, 10:19:40 am »
I'm sure you mean well SM, but I'm also sure that the OP is an adult and doesn't need other adults to speak on her behalf. Nor should anybody responding be expected to have read and memorised all her previous posts - people are working with what they've been given. Equally, nobody has (or needs) special treatment here and I'm sure nobody would want it.

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Re: Overcautious screening?
« Reply #16 on: 09 April 2017, 10:50:52 am »
I'm sure Tickles knows, knowing his bright posts about the notion of her own escorting, which I find to be quite unique and fascinating.  I believe that's what she strives to be doing.  If someone has a med condition (she mentions she does on this forum from time to time), it does affect the overall wellbeing in several levels.  Replies are all well-meaning, well-intended and valid from the established escorts but I would be cautious about not hurting her feelings much and discourage her.  We all experience times of not being himself or herself as a result of ill health/long-term med conditions.  Let's try to be a little gentle.   ;D

I'm sure what I posted and others was helpful to Tickles and was just saying how I think it is. Surly the reason for the thread was seeking advice no?. Isn't that why any posts on here.

The sun is shinning I have got no time for your digs am better to fall for that one. :)  Good luck. !!

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Re: Overcautious screening?
« Reply #17 on: 09 April 2017, 11:18:25 am »
I originally planned my weekend as me time. I put my phone back on do not disturb again. I need this for my health and sanity after being a sex object for a whole week.

I have to be careful what I say because I need to navigate different issues. I did write up a longer post explaining but this was overlong. My original question was am I right to set a threshold and invite men to spill their expectations, or am I turning down clients who simply want to buy into their fantasies? Oddly enough a few months ago I had one bad call which I let through in spite of red flags all the way through because I was trying too hard to please and needed the money and he assaulted me. My very next call was the complete opposite and very nice. There is also a class issue where I have to be very careful around working class men who can be very conservative and speak with their fists more than their mouths.

I declined first call because of transphobic misgendering and laid into them for this before the call ended. This is the one thing I will not tolerate under any circumstances and is guaranteed to get a client thrown out unceremoniously with a kick up the bum and don't come back.

I believe wanting English is at least indirect racism and swimming in the same pond as sexism if comments by one man in a forum I read are a guide. I remember a client a couple of weeks ago complaining about the high prices some escorts with my speciality charge and a flood of Eastern European escorts who, he alleged, were more likely to have STDs and be less careful. From time to time some men have commented that I must be a lot of fun. Not really!

I wasn't much fun for my second call and goofed badly and know it.

My filtering is to discover men's intent and intent is usually what is discovered last and I need to verify this before they arrive.

I can be a bit rigid with my positioning and don't always pay attention to my emotional language. I'm struggling with unavoidable healthcare denial and discrimination so not as practiced or secure as I wish. I have to live with this regret and opportunity loss.

I feel wary about posting because many don't have to deal with how bad transphobia can be. I'm supposed to laugh along with institutional abusers and am beaten up because it's perceived to be my fault and I sense this is what is happening with this topic.

My neighbour got a lot of flack from women at work who abused their management positions and she was kind to me. She knows I'm trans and she protects me. It just so happened she had friends and family around this weekend.I'm not having anyone back who will cause a scene not just for myself but because she doesn't deserve the upset either. I don't want it to end this way but sweetmilf was nice to me. Don't attack her for this when the root cause of this falling out is a potentially abusive client who I successfully filtered out. I was in the process of writing this up for a topic in this forum when another new client called me. I hardly ever get weekend calls and it was just my bad luck and not my fault I was still upset from a previous call which had upset me.

I may not be doing everything as best I can because of interference but I am an at risk person and vulnerable. You don't know but a few weeks ago my suicidal thoughts were becoming more frequent and I was in a terrible state on the the phone to the Samaritans and LGBT switchboard and sent an entire copy of my discrimination logs to Pink News. They ignored my story just like an activist and academic ignored my story but my files are now in the possession of third parties if I come to harm. I am battling through this to get the healthcare I am entitled to and get to court if need be to expose how I was abused by doctors and it's an uphill struggle when even lawyers are horrible and give me the "No dogs, no blacks, no jews" treatment just for being a trans person standing up for my rights.
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Re: Overcautious screening?
« Reply #18 on: 09 April 2017, 11:42:46 am »
I believe wanting English is at least indirect racism and swimming in the same pond as sexism if comments by one man in a forum I read are a guide.

I may not be doing everything as best I can because of interference but I am an at risk person and vulnerable. You don't know but a few weeks ago my suicidal thoughts were becoming more frequent and I was in a terrible state on the the phone to the Samaritans and LGBT switchboard and sent an entire copy of my discrimination logs to Pink News. They ignored my story just like an activist and academic ignored my story but my files are now in the possession of third parties if I come to harm. I am battling through this to get the healthcare I am entitled to and get to court if need be to expose how I was abused by doctors and it's an uphill struggle when even lawyers are horrible and give me the "No dogs, no blacks, no jews" treatment just for being a trans person standing up for my rights.

No its not racism at all and the other part you wrote well iv said it months ago and il say it again.....I do not think you should be escorting

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Re: Overcautious screening?
« Reply #19 on: 09 April 2017, 11:43:00 am »
You need a strong character to escort for any length of time. I've seen many start out who are semi stable only to get tipped over the edge and become mentally and emotionally damaged by selling sex, from what you have written you are not emotionally, mentally or physically strong enough to do this job in what I'd consider a safe way.
Give yourself a break, take time out to sort your problems before submitting yourself to something that is already a dangerous profession from reading your posts.

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Re: Overcautious screening?
« Reply #20 on: 09 April 2017, 12:23:24 pm »
Tickle darling the ones who try to talk us down are not worth it. Easy for me to say in escorting, we need to be strong minded or they will destroy us. Some times clients annoy me so much.

But can understand because in my early days I took it personally some time crying after bookings only a few. But it was more to do with knowing my self worth. Now those who try are pathetic and not worth any of upset. They annoy me like nats do lol.

Only the respectable ones and those who cause me no harm deserve my up most respect. The rest are nothing to me. Maybe try getting to a place where you can cope with escorting or it will eat you up.

The dicks won't treat escorts better in time but unfortunately they will always be there amongst the genuine lovely ones.

Just to add....

If ever you want to pm me as know how stressful it can be as dealt with putting a claim together with my bank even more so as felt they didn't believe me. Well until after a week if not I need to carry on with fighting for my rights in law. It has been a tight journey not easy.

But will see what happens I don't believe the bank are on my side. Many try to obstruct us with claims. You can claim for injury , loss or harm.

They won't tell you that.  There are commissioners and ombudsmen in place too. Write it all down verball is pointless in law with companies. That is why you can't prove they said this and that. Be careful there is a recording law too. I researched it. Writing is lawful.
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Re: Overcautious screening?
« Reply #21 on: 09 April 2017, 12:53:27 pm »
You need a strong character to escort for any length of time. I've seen many start out who are semi stable only to get tipped over the edge and become mentally and emotionally damaged by selling sex, from what you have written you are not emotionally, mentally or physically strong enough to do this job in what I'd consider a safe way.
Give yourself a break, take time out to sort your problems before submitting yourself to something that is already a dangerous profession from reading your posts.

+ 1
Escorting is not for someone who is psychologically/emotionally vulnerable, whatever the reason. And you are. In your case it is because you're trans, but it could be any other reason, it's just not a job for someone who struggles with psychological issues. You expose yourself to harm instead of taking care of yourself xx

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Re: Overcautious screening?
« Reply #22 on: 09 April 2017, 01:29:47 pm »
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Escorting is not for someone who is psychologically/emotionally vulnerable, whatever the reason. And you are. In your case it is because you're trans, but it could be any other reason, it's just not a job for someone who struggles with psychological issues. You expose yourself to harm instead of taking care of yourself xx

+ a million.  I urge you to consider walking away....based on what you've said you're going to end up spending ten times what you make from this business on therapy to get over the fact you did it.  You need to take care of yourself first. xx

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Re: Overcautious screening?
« Reply #23 on: 09 April 2017, 02:23:51 pm »
There is also a class issue where I have to be very careful around working class men who can be very conservative and speak with their fists more than their mouths.

And this shows that you have your own biases and 'isms', like most people. I'd say it's uneducated/ignorant/narrow-minded men who are more likely to be violent towards a transperson, not working class ones.

But most of all I agree with the others that you're not in the right place to be escorting right now.
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Re: Overcautious screening?
« Reply #24 on: 09 April 2017, 02:52:27 pm »
I was in between things when i commented, what I find rather strange and laughable tbh is you are offended by guys who want an english girl and you class it as racism and sexism but yet you stereotype working class men, honestly I cant really take this seriously  ;D  ???  ::)

 There is also a class issue where I have to be very careful around working class men who can be very conservative and speak with their fists more than their mouths.

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Re: Overcautious screening?
« Reply #25 on: 09 April 2017, 03:01:24 pm »
That's as maybe WL, but the snarky tone and eyerolling is not helpful here and it can stop now. If you don't want to take the OPs concerns seriously that's entirely up to you but in that case post on a different thread, please. There are ways of expressing a dissenting view without sneering and doing away with the emojis would be a good start.

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Re: Overcautious screening?
« Reply #26 on: 09 April 2017, 03:37:02 pm »


I don't get offended by "are you English/Chinese/whatever". That's not the problem. The problem with any sort of this kind of questions is : it means the guy didn't do his homework and has no clue who I am and what I do. This is the problem.

So the solution is: "please check my profile, make sure you like what you read, and if you do then call me again" (I block them though so they can't:)
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I agree. If a client is asking me and I sense that he hasn't read my profile then I prefer not to go any further.

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Re: Overcautious screening?
« Reply #27 on: 09 April 2017, 03:44:34 pm »
I agree. If a client is asking me and I sense that he hasn't read my profile then I prefer not to go any further.

The problem is for me, is that they've read my profile but don't believe it.
"Is it you in the photos?"
"Your profile says you're English, are you?"
"Do you have any STDs?"

As I've pointed out to countless enquirers, if I was unethical enough to lie on my profile, use someone else's photos, or work with an STD, would I really tell you the truth just because you've asked me?

If my over 100 positive feedback doesn't reassure you then nothing will.
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Re: Overcautious screening?
« Reply #28 on: 09 April 2017, 04:11:24 pm »
I originally planned my weekend as me time. I put my phone back on do not disturb again. I need this for my health and sanity after being a sex object for a whole week.




Well turn your phone off at weekends and other times when you don't want to work. I don't think this is a trans issue at all but one that we all get (the occasional arseholes on the phone) Have a cut off point where regardless of whether you've earned your money you will take a break. If you're feeling suicidal then that's an issue you need to see a doctor about, pushing yourself to work when you've planned not to will only make your depression worse.  Surely your physical and mental health is worth more than an extra booking or 2?   

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Re: Overcautious screening?
« Reply #29 on: 09 April 2017, 04:34:04 pm »
I'm sure you mean well SM, but I'm also sure that the OP is an adult and doesn't need other adults to speak on her behalf. Nor should anybody responding be expected to have read and memorised all her previous posts - people are working with what they've been given. Equally, nobody has (or needs) special treatment here and I'm sure nobody would want it.

If you have concerns about particular posts, report them. Do you have a useful contribution to make to the OPs question?

I have to disagree with you and agree with SM. Adult or not, some of the responces are well meaning but lack sensitivity. Its hardly special treatment or about memorizing her previous post. Telling someone to simply toughen up seems to undermine the point of being on the forum in my opinion. I would be feeling rather discouraged and weak if I had read some of the responces ive seen given that ive had moments where I feel quite similar to OP.