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CSJ

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Outcall only - Can it ever work?!
« on: 07 August 2014, 01:28:21 pm »
Hi everyone

I am in a bit of a pickle! I use the flat my partner and I live in for incalls, and it has worked pretty well until recently. There is a concierge at reception, but I generally see a fairly low volume of clients and have got around it in the past by calling down to announce my guest and asking for them to be shown straight up. In recent weeks however the concierge has turned nasty and has blocked a few clients coming up, so I have had to go down and collect them, which has been extremely awkward. This led me to speak to him and he basically inferred that he knew what was going on and wanted it to stop. I have been too nervous to do another incall since this conversation. Happily we are moving on from that flat in around a month as the landlord is returning.

However, we are going to be doing some long-term house sitting for friends and I won't be able to offer incalls there either.

Easily 90% of my business is incall. The obvious solution would be to book a hotel for a couple of days a week. But I am somewhat loathed to pay out for this as I when I have done so in the past I have been left out of pocket. Despite reducing my rates, bumping up my advertising and having a fairly full diary when I checked in, most of the clients either cancelled or didn't show. I know a lot of girls work successfully this way so I may have just been unlucky and need to give it another shot. It was certainly an unprecedented percentage of cancellations and no shows as compared to when I work from home.

I would be really grateful though if anyone out there is making this work on an outcall only basis and wants to share any advice!

Since I switched my AW to outcall only a couple of days ago I have not had a single enquiry. I am sprucing up my page and trawling through the reverse bookings, but no luck yet....Enquires from my website have also dropped off since I took down the incall option.

I have considered agencies again, but being over 30 and a size 14 means, in my experience, that they aren't interested.

I will take a look at the sugar daddy sites too....

Also .... Massage?! ..... Craigslist?! .... Any other directories used heavily by visitors with hotel rooms?!?!

The essential loss of incall has coincided with me upping my financial targets in order to try and get some extra money together for uni, so any advice is greatly appreciated!!!

Chloe x x

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Re: Outcall only - Can it ever work?!
« Reply #1 on: 07 August 2014, 02:59:03 pm »
Interested in answers to this too - outcall only was working very well for me in N America, but since moving here earlier this year pickings have been very thin :S

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« Reply #2 on: 07 August 2014, 04:21:07 pm »
I do outcalls only in my area usually only get 3-4 clients a week, my mainly income is tours though so not bother about that a lot. And I would suggest you can advertise in advance if you book a hotel room.

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Re: Outcall only - Can it ever work?!
« Reply #3 on: 07 August 2014, 06:43:53 pm »
Hi Cat,

Thanks for the advice about advertising a few days before you get into a hotel, will definitely take that on board.

I generally do 3-4 per week myself ( I am part time ), so it is good to hear that it is possible to maintain those numbers on outcalls.

With booking a hotel I would aim to see that sort of number as a minimum over a day or two. It would be a bit of a switch for me as I usually space them out over the course of a week. But once I am done I could take a day or two off and then hopefully pick up a couple of outcalls over the rest of the week and be ahead of what I am making now  :)

I have been browsing the site and have picked up loads of tips about booking sites and day rates etc. I would be lost without SAAFE!  Think I will take the plunge with a hotel next week....Still no interest in outcalls since I first posted!

Thanks,

Chloe x x
« Last Edit: 07 August 2014, 06:47:03 pm by CSJ »

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Re: Outcall only - Can it ever work?!
« Reply #4 on: 08 August 2014, 01:01:25 am »
I've only been working a couple of weeks and can only offer out calls . I've had many call but when they realise it's out call only there not interested, either that or ask if you would do a quicky in car cause they won't pay for a hotel or I can't go to theirs. :FF

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Re: Outcall only - Can it ever work?!
« Reply #5 on: 08 August 2014, 02:34:47 am »
When I only offered outcalls it was just hit and miss-- it definitely wasn't steady the way it is offering incalls, I mean you're cutting out anyone who's married, has a live in girlfriend, doesn't have their own flat, or is just nervous about their privacy. That's a lot of people. I would sometimes get one every single day and sometimes just a couple a week.

I rent out an incall flat for work right now and it's worth every penny. If most of your bookings are done in advance and with regulars, then I would think getting a hotel would work perfectly for you since you can just organize their bookings into the day you're working. But if you're relying a lot on same day bookings or just see a lot of different people, then hotels can be tricky because everything is so up and down, you might get 20 requests one day and none the next, I'm sure you know that. That's why I rent my flat for the entire week. I don't have to worry about jamming a bunch of clients into one day, and if a day is slow, well it's not the end of the world because I can just work tomorrow. And it ends up being the same price as renting a hotel for 3 days would be anyway.

What I did when I was doing hotels was advertised as offering both and then if someone contacted me about an incall on a day I didn't have a hotel room I would tell them I needed to do an outcall. Sometimes they would say no and sometimes they would say yes, but I definitely did get more bookings this way as I wouldn't have come up on their search radar just offering outcalls. But once they'd fallen in love with my profile they were willing to make a sacrifice!
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Re: Outcall only - Can it ever work?!
« Reply #6 on: 08 August 2014, 12:18:13 pm »
I'm the opposite - I've been outcall only until now and I'm only just going to start taking incalls at my new place next month!

For me it worked fine, though was a bit of a pain as I don't drive. When I did hotel days, I would message everyone who had every messaged me on AW ever who hadn't been a red flag in any way (takes a long time to do this) to let them know that I was going to be in a hotel in the city centre, and the dates, then not booked until I had enough interest, then set up available today as well as a big notice on my profile and mobile number on display. Half cancel, but another half message last minute asking for a booking, so you should be very busy! As long as you don't mind doing a conveyor belt day. Besides that, it's one every couple of days on outcall basis, though I guess it is easier if you can travel further (I frequently turned down as bookings were too far, or too short for me to want to travel that distance).

Good luck!

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Re: Outcall only - Can it ever work?!
« Reply #7 on: 08 August 2014, 03:49:57 pm »
If you are used to 3 or 4 bookings a week and can manage on that income, then you should do fine.

Like Cat, this is the amount I average per week - 5 in a week and I need to lay down! ( alone though!  ;)

You can have a great week and earn four digits, though in my experience this happens just a few times in a year and includes   the odd overnight. The rest of the time I probably earn the same as an average blue-collar worker - and I am happy enough with this.
I see it as a fair exchange for my only Outlay being Petrol and condoms and it allows me a huge chunk of the week on everything else I do.

PS: Being 30+ will be your niche, so use it boldly in advertising. I'm 40+ and everyone who books me would just as happily book a MUCH older lady too  :-*

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Re: Outcall only - Can it ever work?!
« Reply #8 on: 08 August 2014, 03:54:59 pm »
I do outcall only and I do perfectly fine. Im usually pretty books up most days (I say I dont work thursdays and sundays as everyone needs a rest from time to time) and have a lot of regs that see me on the same days / times so i book other appointments around them. Most of my bookings are usually 1-2 hrs, 3 hr dinner dates or over nights. 
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Re: Outcall only - Can it ever work?!
« Reply #9 on: 08 August 2014, 05:00:22 pm »
I have at times worked doing outcalls only for 6months + and found it ok, I just don't enjoy being constantly on call which is why I prefer to work doing incalls on set days.

I always advertise in the local papers when working doing outcall only.

Sarah x x x

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Re: Outcall only - Can it ever work?!
« Reply #10 on: 08 August 2014, 06:45:24 pm »
I do outcall only and I do perfectly fine. Im usually pretty books up most days (I say I dont work thursdays and sundays as everyone needs a rest from time to time) and have a lot of regs that see me on the same days / times so i book other appointments around them. Most of my bookings are usually 1-2 hrs, 3 hr dinner dates or over nights.

My experience is very similar. It ends up compensating with the fact that most of my bookings are longer than an hour/dinner dates. Also, building up regulars is a good idea. It can be quite fun as well going out/to the theatre etcetera.

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Re: Outcall only - Can it ever work?!
« Reply #11 on: 08 August 2014, 06:51:39 pm »
Hello I am in a very similar pickle. I announced an incall day (though it was quite short notice) I was showing my number for almost 3days and not even a single time waster phonecall. Granted I only advertised on AW local search and available today but still not even a call or serious email? So because of financial constraints I have decided to possibly only work outcalls and tour.

My question is how do you make occasional incall days work without being out of pocket? Apart from announcing at least a week in advance on as many forums as possible, spending much more money on advertising, what else?

Do you ladies generally find touring dire or is it just the August holiday season? I took a 2 year break from escorting and I can see I am really out of touch.

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« Reply #12 on: 08 August 2014, 07:19:17 pm »
My question is how do you make occasional incall days work without being out of pocket? Apart from announcing at least a week in advance on as many forums as possible, spending much more money on advertising, what else?

There is no right answer to a lot of these type of questions,

I recently stopped off in Oldbury, West Mids on the spur of the moment, I had advertised to be in Heathrow the following day. I changed my profile about 10.30am and my first booking was at 1.30pm, my arrival time at the hotel. I was so busy and could hardly squeeze everybody in, I actually did more "paid for time" than hours I worked. I left at 9pm having done my last booking at 8.30pm and went home. I did not bother working in Heathrow the next day.

Another time you will have advertised for 3-4 days prior to working, taken 30+ calls from guys that desperately want to see you yet on the day do very little.

All you can do is do what you can to promote yourself and trust to luck. The more exposure you have about yourself the more in demand you are likely to be.

Sarah x x x

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Re: Outcall only - Can it ever work?!
« Reply #13 on: 08 August 2014, 08:30:24 pm »
Hello I am in a very similar pickle. I announced an incall day (though it was quite short notice) I was showing my number for almost 3days and not even a single time waster phonecall. Granted I only advertised on AW local search and available today but still not even a call or serious email? So because of financial constraints I have decided to possibly only work outcalls and tour.

My question is how do you make occasional incall days work without being out of pocket? Apart from announcing at least a week in advance on as many forums as possible, spending much more money on advertising, what else?

Do you ladies generally find touring dire or is it just the August holiday season? I took a 2 year break from escorting and I can see I am really out of touch.

I message everyone who has ever shown an interest (can take about a day) about a week beforehand (and before booking a hotel). There will be enough interest to cover the hotel and make a fair bit of cash if you can be bothered to to this for a day.

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« Reply #14 on: 08 August 2014, 09:56:14 pm »
The situation with the incall days is a hit and miss as business comes on its own if you get my drift. It doesn't always happen there and then.  With out calls I only get a few a week but concentrate with the incalls.