Quote from: Cat_BBW on 28 June 2014, 01:32:42 pm

But you ARE benefiting. Would those duo bookings - and thus your own earnings from doing them - have happened without you arranging everything? No.

So legally yes, you are a 'pimp'.

Yup. Good point. I don't think anyone will care, there's no coercion or anything going on, but I think it's good to know the legal status of these things.

Quote from: Pink~Princess on 28 June 2014, 09:35:57 am

If/when she starts doing bookings alone, will you still be going 50/50? If so then yes, defo a pimp.

At the moment with you just doing duo bookings then 50/50 is the norm for anyone doing a duo, is it not?

Why not just teach her to do the admin? It's not difficult and then that way nothing can come back on you?

xx

Absolutely not, anything she does solo is hers alone. She actually did have a solo booked in last week (the client wavered on booking us as a duo and then said he just wanted to see her) but then changed her mind and cancelled, independently of me, I didn't have anything to do with it. I think she's feeling a bit nervous about taking on solo bookings as she's worried about the client pressuring her into something - I'm much less easily pressured and she knows that in a duo I won't let anything she's uncomfortable with happen.

The admin is really difficult for her - I don't want to go into too much detail but there's a lot of psychiatric stuff going on which means that some things which are perfectly normal for most people are overwhelming and confusing for her. Normally what happens when she gets an a message about a duo is she forwards it onto me and I sort out the time, get the client's number, etc. I send her copies of all the emails I get from clients so she can see what's going on and agree/decline. It makes it easier for her because I have no issues saying no to people, but she gets nervous about negative repercussions, clients getting pissy, etc. I don't care if someone flies off the handle because I say she doesn't want to suck them off (we do kinky stuff not full sex) but it would upset her.

Personally I take things to heart that shouldn't bother me, I get offended at silly things, I get upset when people are being mean and I get majorly anxious at the unknown of what's going to walk through my door which is why my profile is filled with terms and conditions, to ensure the client knows everything before hand of what is/isn't available so that he can make a sensible choice as whether to book me or not rather than be alone in a room with someone who has turned up expecting things from me or a style of booking that I don't do or are uncomfortable doing because for me it makes the booking very awkward and sometimes intimidating and in the past been in dangerous situations with clients so sometimes I question whether I am cut out for the job or not BUT then I think of all the amazingly wonderful clients I do meet, it's the unknown that scares the shit out of me, not the clients once they are here and once I know they are decent and NOT serial killer, robber or whatever else.

All that aside, I don't have any psychiatric issues what so ever and make my decisions based on a clear head and however the client has come across to me  even if I am terrified at the best of times of what's going to walk through my door. I think someone who has psychiatric issues is even more vulnerable than the rest of us and so therefor this line of work is a big massive NO-GO in my opinion, I definitely wouldn't encourage it.

xx

Quote from: BlueDomme on 28 June 2014, 07:20:59 pm

Quote from: Cat_BBW on 28 June 2014, 01:32:42 pm

But you ARE benefiting. Would those duo bookings - and thus your own earnings from doing them - have happened without you arranging everything? No.

So legally yes, you are a 'pimp'.

Yup. Good point. I don't think anyone will care, there's no coercion or anything going on, but I think it's good to know the legal status of these things.

Quote from: Pink~Princess on 28 June 2014, 09:35:57 am

If/when she starts doing bookings alone, will you still be going 50/50? If so then yes, defo a pimp.

At the moment with you just doing duo bookings then 50/50 is the norm for anyone doing a duo, is it not?

Why not just teach her to do the admin? It's not difficult and then that way nothing can come back on you?

xx

Absolutely not, anything she does solo is hers alone. She actually did have a solo booked in last week (the client wavered on booking us as a duo and then said he just wanted to see her) but then changed her mind and cancelled, independently of me, I didn't have anything to do with it. I think she's feeling a bit nervous about taking on solo bookings as she's worried about the client pressuring her into something - I'm much less easily pressured and she knows that in a duo I won't let anything she's uncomfortable with happen.

The admin is really difficult for her - I don't want to go into too much detail but there's a lot of psychiatric stuff going on which means that some things which are perfectly normal for most people are overwhelming and confusing for her. Normally what happens when she gets an a message about a duo is she forwards it onto me and I sort out the time, get the client's number, etc. I send her copies of all the emails I get from clients so she can see what's going on and agree/decline. It makes it easier for her because I have no issues saying no to people, but she gets nervous about negative repercussions, clients getting pissy, etc. I don't care if someone flies off the handle because I say she doesn't want to suck them off (we do kinky stuff not full sex) but it would upset her.

Personally I take things to heart that shouldn't bother me, I get offended at silly things, I get upset when people are being mean and I get majorly anxious at the unknown of what's going to walk through my door which is why my profile is filled with terms and conditions, to ensure the client knows everything before hand of what is/isn't available so that he can make a sensible choice as whether to book me or not rather than be alone in a room with someone who has turned up expecting things from me or a style of booking that I don't do or are uncomfortable doing because for me it makes the booking very awkward and sometimes intimidating and in the past been in dangerous situations with clients so sometimes I question whether I am cut out for the job or not BUT then I think of all the amazingly wonderful clients I do meet, it's the unknown that scares the shit out of me, not the clients once they are here and once I know they are decent and NOT serial killer, robber or whatever else.

All that aside, I don't have any psychiatric issues what so ever and make my decisions based on a clear head and however the client has come across to me  even if I am terrified at the best of times of what's going to walk through my door. I think someone who has psychiatric issues is even more vulnerable than the rest of us and so therefor this line of work is a big massive NO-GO in my opinion, I definitely wouldn't encourage it.

xx

I suffer with mild bipolar and have done for years.I manage ok and I probably get less stressy than a fair few lasses I know in the industry.

Quote from: Pink~Princess on 28 June 2014, 07:50:39 pm

Quote from: BlueDomme on 28 June 2014, 07:20:59 pm

Quote from: Cat_BBW on 28 June 2014, 01:32:42 pm

But you ARE benefiting. Would those duo bookings - and thus your own earnings from doing them - have happened without you arranging everything? No.

So legally yes, you are a 'pimp'.

Yup. Good point. I don't think anyone will care, there's no coercion or anything going on, but I think it's good to know the legal status of these things.

Quote from: Pink~Princess on 28 June 2014, 09:35:57 am

If/when she starts doing bookings alone, will you still be going 50/50? If so then yes, defo a pimp.

At the moment with you just doing duo bookings then 50/50 is the norm for anyone doing a duo, is it not?

Why not just teach her to do the admin? It's not difficult and then that way nothing can come back on you?

xx

Absolutely not, anything she does solo is hers alone. She actually did have a solo booked in last week (the client wavered on booking us as a duo and then said he just wanted to see her) but then changed her mind and cancelled, independently of me, I didn't have anything to do with it. I think she's feeling a bit nervous about taking on solo bookings as she's worried about the client pressuring her into something - I'm much less easily pressured and she knows that in a duo I won't let anything she's uncomfortable with happen.

The admin is really difficult for her - I don't want to go into too much detail but there's a lot of psychiatric stuff going on which means that some things which are perfectly normal for most people are overwhelming and confusing for her. Normally what happens when she gets an a message about a duo is she forwards it onto me and I sort out the time, get the client's number, etc. I send her copies of all the emails I get from clients so she can see what's going on and agree/decline. It makes it easier for her because I have no issues saying no to people, but she gets nervous about negative repercussions, clients getting pissy, etc. I don't care if someone flies off the handle because I say she doesn't want to suck them off (we do kinky stuff not full sex) but it would upset her.

Personally I take things to heart that shouldn't bother me, I get offended at silly things, I get upset when people are being mean and I get majorly anxious at the unknown of what's going to walk through my door which is why my profile is filled with terms and conditions, to ensure the client knows everything before hand of what is/isn't available so that he can make a sensible choice as whether to book me or not rather than be alone in a room with someone who has turned up expecting things from me or a style of booking that I don't do or are uncomfortable doing because for me it makes the booking very awkward and sometimes intimidating and in the past been in dangerous situations with clients so sometimes I question whether I am cut out for the job or not BUT then I think of all the amazingly wonderful clients I do meet, it's the unknown that scares the shit out of me, not the clients once they are here and once I know they are decent and NOT serial killer, robber or whatever else.

All that aside, I don't have any psychiatric issues what so ever and make my decisions based on a clear head and however the client has come across to me  even if I am terrified at the best of times of what's going to walk through my door. I think someone who has psychiatric issues is even more vulnerable than the rest of us and so therefor this line of work is a big massive NO-GO in my opinion, I definitely wouldn't encourage it.

xx

I suffer with mild bipolar and have done for years.I manage ok and I probably get less stressy than a fair few lasses I know in the industry.

Like me for example lol, I get stressed out my tits at the best of times x

I think someone who has psychiatric issues is even more vulnerable than the rest of us and so therefor this line of work is a big massive NO-GO in my opinion, I definitely wouldn't encourage it.

Considering 1 in 4 people will suffer from a mental illness at some point in their lives (that's a quarter of the population/us working ladies), I wouldn't be too quick to generalise about us psychiatric citizens

Quote from: Pink~Princess on 28 June 2014, 07:50:39 pm

I think someone who has psychiatric issues is even more vulnerable than the rest of us and so therefor this line of work is a big massive NO-GO in my opinion, I definitely wouldn't encourage it.

Considering 1 in 4 people will suffer from depression at some point in their lives (that's a quarter of the population/us working ladies), I wouldn't be too quick to generalise about us psychiatric citizens

She said psychiatric issues not depression, she never went into detail of what she meant exactly which is fair enough. This is a forum for goodness sake, I just have an opinion which wasn't out to offend anyone or come across bitchy.......if anything I was trying to give good advice by saying that if one has problems mentally to the point where doing her own admin is so overwhelming for the OP's girlfriend (her words btw) that maybe, just maybe selling her self to strangers is not the best road to go down but as your double our age like you pointed out, maybe you do know better.

I think the girl in question is also a sub which could get really, really out of hand of she's not on top of her game because someone could go too far with her or take advantage of her being a sub.

Quote from: Cat_BBW on 29 June 2014, 01:59:47 am

Quote from: Pink~Princess on 28 June 2014, 07:50:39 pm

I think someone who has psychiatric issues is even more vulnerable than the rest of us and so therefor this line of work is a big massive NO-GO in my opinion, I definitely wouldn't encourage it.

Considering 1 in 4 people will suffer from depression at some point in their lives (that's a quarter of the population/us working ladies), I wouldn't be too quick to generalise about us psychiatric citizens

She said psychiatric issues not depression, she never went into detail of what she meant exactly which is fair enough. This is a forum for goodness sake, I just have an opinion which wasn't out to offend anyone or come across bitchy.......if anything I was trying to give good advice by saying that if one has problems mentally to the point where doing her own admin is so overwhelming for the OP's girlfriend (her words btw) that maybe, just maybe selling her self to strangers is not the best road to go down but as your double our age like you pointed out, maybe you do know better.

I think the girl in question is also a sub which could get really, really out of hand of she's not on top of her game because someone could go too far with her or take advantage of her being a sub.

I was just pointing out the current, well-documented statistic about depression - 1 in 4 will have it during their lifetime - and as depression is a psychiatric illness, and many of us WGs have had, will have, or do have depression, my post was relevant.

(I posted it before I read the subsequent posts)

I think one thing we forget is most people hate their jobs and are depressed in them. I do think if someone will harm themselves or it is having a detrimental effect on their life, what ever jobs, they should find something that makes them happy. But I think it's normal to feel some stress. No offense, but I think it worrying  that your worried about your partners mental health but seem to be profiting from her work as she seems like a vulnerable person. And at the end of them day pimping is pimping, it can't be sugar coated.

Well we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. You can't compare an 8 hour shift in an office or supermarket to a 2 hour shift having sex with strangers, yes working in a proper job is harder work physically but being an escort is a total mind fuck at times as it hits you mentally. They are completely different. This job isolates you, you have to lie to everyone you love and care about, you live a double life and are always at risk of inviting a complete nutter into your home which sometimes is enough to turn the sanest of us round the bend.

I have been getting some online shit the last couple of days over something silly I said to someone which has put me in such a downer, put my stress levels through the roof and really made me unhappy and unable to concentrate properly the past couple of days although things are hopefully settling down now and that's from a bunch of unknowns on the internet so when bad things happen for real when face to face with a stranger, it's terrifying. Sometimes I think I am really weak and compared to most escorts, I am weak but compared to the average civvie girl out there, I am tough because this job ain't easy. The daily abuse and threats you get aswell is another issue although lately since I started using my old iPhone for work and am now able to start blocking people, it's been a lot better.

I honestly don't think anyone who is unsettled in the mind prior to escorting should ever go down this road but others might disagree with me and each to their own, I am not trying or meaning to offend as I know it's a sensitive subject.

xx

Neither her nor I are isolated - all my friends know, all her friends know, my boyfriend knows, we're both kinky poly weirdos and have been for years (we actually met in a fetish club) so it's impossible for either of us to be friends with anyone who isn't crazy open minded. I post about pro-Domming on Facebook all the time. Girlfriend isn't sub, she's switch, like me (I choose to only Domme in my professional life but switch in my private life), and neither of us have sex with clients, only do kinky stuff.

So far the only disagreement we've had over this thing is that she wanted me to switch during duos and I was unwilling to. She got frustrated at me for narrowing our market but I find subbing much more emotionally involved than domming so stood my ground.

Yes, I am on the autistic spectrum, I have problems with anxiety and with depression. That doesn't mean I don't know myself and my limitations, I have been doing this mental health thing for years and it has affected all aspects of my life. When I'm having a good period I'm almost normal, when I'm having a bad period I become almost entirely non-functional, and I spend my whole life drawing up contingency plans for if and when I encounter another non-functional period. Sex work has a simple and effective contingency plan and knowing that I have this stressfree and easily enacted contingency plan makes it a lot easier for me, in addition to all the stuff I mentioned earlier.

Whilst I appreciate your concern, you say yourself you have no psychiatric problems - lucky you - so I'd appreciate it if you could not assume you know more about my limitations and abilities than I do. I cannot go to a big shopping centre (Westfields - shudder-) or attend a live gig without leaving stressed, exhausted, and wanting to crawl into bed for the next 10 hours, but I can do a two hour pro-Domme booking and walk out feeling on top of the world. I know that sounds weird, but please trust my ability to evaluate my own mental state.