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kinkyboots

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Oral without, what do YOU think?
« on: 08 May 2014, 09:05:24 pm »

When i started escorting, having done little research i thought it was the norm to offer oral without a condom. I don't do it now and ensure all contact is protected but I've just had a rather embarrassing conversation with my partner when i told him that i used to do OWO.

He said in a really flat tone "you shouldn't be doing that you, you've not been having sex without one have you?" i

I feel slightly humiliated now, not to mention pissed off that he thinks i'd sleep with my clients without a condom. Although feeling humiliated is probably not justifiable, that was the most awkward conversation we've ever had.

What is the general opinion of people who offer, or have offered OWO? Are they thought of in the same way as people who do BB?

Urgh. I wish i hadn't said anything now  :-\

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Re: Oral without, what do YOU think?
« Reply #1 on: 08 May 2014, 09:27:36 pm »
If you stick OWO into the search, you'll find it has been discussed a few times before :)

I'll merge this with one of them soon, but the short answer is that everyone has their own place on the risk - reward scale; there's a market for OWO, a market for OW, and a market that doesn't care so long as you have their penis in your mouth; and ultimately it's up to you and no-one else.
'The Ian formerly known as SW5'. What they said: "Indispensable", "You are our best resource", and (hours later!) "I'm afraid that you're being made redundant..."

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« Reply #2 on: 08 May 2014, 09:29:30 pm »
OWO is a common service offered by many escorts, yes but it's not a service that should ever be expected of the escort from the client (unless she advertises it obviously) nor is it a service that any escort should ever feel she has to do it to be an escort or be busy in the business.

Far too many escorts offer OWO when they really don't want to, I get emails all the time from other escorts asking me how business is offering oral WITH a condom, it's never really a question I can answer as I have never offered OWO then stopped offering it so I can't compare the before and after but all I know is that my target is to meet 2 clients in a day (which is always doable) and my cut off limit is 3 clients in a day, I make good money......really good money infact without putting myself at risk and without compromising my sanity by doing things I don't want to do for the sake of money plus I set myself a realistic target.

But no, ladies who offer  OWO are definitely not in the same bracket as ladies who offer Bareback sex both are risky services but obviously bareback is risky to the extreme but each to their own.

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Re: Oral without, what do YOU think?
« Reply #3 on: 08 May 2014, 09:34:25 pm »
Have to agree with xw5 there IS a market for OWO, OW and for clients who don't care which way they get it.

I obviously don't cater for clients where no OWO is a deal breaker but I do cater for a massive chunk of men who want a little discrete fun with an escort but who have wives and girlfriends and think the risk of OWO is too high for them incase they take something nasty back and pass it on to their wife.

Then I have clients who I see that come to me regularly but also see a selection of other ladies all offering different things.

I think your bf was thinking that as your in a relationship, you shouldn't be offering risky services incase you pass something onto him. I am surprised you haven't had this conversation with him until now.

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Re: Oral without, what do YOU think?
« Reply #4 on: 08 May 2014, 10:02:36 pm »
I stopped doing owo 2 months ago and I still get the same amount of bookings from regulars and newbies. It hasn't affected things in the slightest.
The reason I stopped was because I caught chlamydia from a client after giving him a blow job. Ended up with it in my throat and had to go for throat swabs at the gum clinic.

A lot of my clients like seeing me now that they know I'm so health conscious as it means they don't have to worry about passing things on to their wives

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Re: Oral without, what do YOU think?
« Reply #5 on: 08 May 2014, 10:04:03 pm »
Was he your partner when you were doing the OWO?

There are risks to doing it. Whether or not they are worth it to you depends on a pile of things, including how much you enjoy doing OWO vs OW and what the alternatives are.

But if you're taking them, it's polite to let your partner(s) know, especially if you're not using condoms for anything with them. That doesn't mean you need to give a blow by blow (sorry!) account of every booking, but telling them that you're doing A, B and C lets them work out what risks they want to take and means you're not going to be in the position of having something and needing to conceal it from them.
'The Ian formerly known as SW5'. What they said: "Indispensable", "You are our best resource", and (hours later!) "I'm afraid that you're being made redundant..."

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Re: Oral without, what do YOU think?
« Reply #6 on: 08 May 2014, 10:19:42 pm »
When we got together offering OWO was something i didn't do anymore so i didn't make a point of telling him it was something i did in my past. If we were together when i offered it i would have been completely honest with him, i don't do OWO whatsoever now and am very careful for both of our sakes  :)

I'm open with him about what i do and he's not in the dark about anything, he just didn't realize that i used to do OWO long before i knew him and assumed i'd always operated this way.

I wouldn't do it myself now because 1) I'm too paranoid these days 2) I have a partner.

In relation to the difference in business personally, i can honestly say that since going from offering OWO to OW i haven't noticed a drop at all. The piece of mind must be reassuring to potential clients too, especially if they have families to think of, again like mentioned  :)

& Thanks for the reassurance  :) x x x

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Re: Oral without, what do YOU think?
« Reply #7 on: 09 May 2014, 01:47:05 pm »
I offer owo, I do worry about the safety of it and therefore regularly get checked

I tried to give ow once, and the teet on the condom damn near choked me, not sure now you girls who always do ow manage

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« Reply #8 on: 09 May 2014, 01:58:16 pm »
I offer owo, I do worry about the safety of it and therefore regularly get checked

I tried to give ow once, and the teet on the condom damn near choked me, not sure now you girls who always do ow manage

The teet isn't the best but I manage cause the alternative (diseases and infections aside) is putting literally hundreds of men per years willy's in my mouth and even the cleanest of willy's will have bacteria that I am not comfortable putting in my mouth bearing in mind that's where people pee from, then there's pre-cum and of course the clients who turn up unclean or clean everywhere else but don't know how to clean under their foreskin so for me the teet is a small price to pay for piece of mind.

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Re: Oral without, what do YOU think?
« Reply #9 on: 09 May 2014, 02:27:00 pm »
Some people like having hundreds of etc - I'm sure I've said that oral sex is far more common in sex between men than anal is, and the vast majority is OWO.

Pee is sterile. Unless they have an infection in their genitals, they probably have more bacteria in their mouths.
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« Reply #10 on: 09 May 2014, 04:11:31 pm »
Some people like having hundreds of etc - I'm sure I've said that oral sex is far more common in sex between men than anal is, and the vast majority is OWO.

Pee is sterile. Unless they have an infection in their genitals, they probably have more bacteria in their mouths.

I like lots of willies :D

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Re: Oral without, what do YOU think?
« Reply #11 on: 09 May 2014, 04:35:39 pm »
I used to offer owo many years back. 

Then a few years ago I decided to withdraw this service.

Like some girls, I was worried I would lose business and I have to say I did lose some of my regulars for whom this was a must, but to be honest, the ones I lost have been replaced by those that ONLY want oral with.............

Whenever I go to my usual sex worker's clinic for a check up, I am frequently told that there are many girls offering this service and not really wanting to at all but fear they will lose money if they do not.  I have even heard it first hand from one lady I know who says she hates it but fears not offering it. 

I hate to say this and no offence to anyone that does offer owo, but one thing I did notice, is that since not offering it, the quality of my clients has improved!  I don't mean that in a detrimental way to anyone still doing this but for me, I think it was in some way a journey of progression from taking on rather more PSE bookings whereas now I am most definitely GFE and tend to prefer the less shall we say, energetic client!

The one thing that does get my back up is when guys ring me up, and knowing (as it's clearly stated on my site and profiles everywhere that I do not offer owo) that, still try to ask for it.......... some even say, oh won't you do it just for me................. :FF

Some arrogant guy told me a few weeks back that all men want owo and didn't I know that?  .................. I think I just hung up on him then............. :)

Saying all of that though, anything we offer is an individual choice.  One thing I have learnt in this business is that you can't base your income/bookings/clients on what the next girl is doing because we are all different and offer a different type of persona........... 

I am pretty sure that I do have some clients that come to see me that will still go to other's for owo but still come and see me because they like me and sometimes the basic services are neither here or there, if in fact, you have built up a good relationship with a regular client and build up a good client base of your own. 

As for the bareback issue, no you cannot equate the two at all. 

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Re: Oral without, what do YOU think?
« Reply #12 on: 09 May 2014, 04:42:03 pm »
I offer owo, I do worry about the safety of it and therefore regularly get checked

I tried to give ow once, and the teet on the condom damn near choked me, not sure now you girls who always do ow manage

Snap I have tried every type of condom going and they all make me gag.  I cant even seem to remember how to breathe when there is a lump of rubber in my mouth and have to keep stopping to get my breath.  Not great seeing as some guys need to have it covered as would not put theirs in my mouth without one but as its a rare few I can manage it.
However the risks with OWO whilst there are there they are nowhere near the risk of BB or anal BB
I don't do CIM as sperm makes me gag too although I know there is a small risk from pre cum.  However for me the risk is small enough compared to throwing up over every client for me to take and ensure I get throat swabs every four weeks to be sure.

I would never consider myself as taking the same risk as someone who chooses to offer bareback sex or even bareback anal but then again I would not judge them either as that is surely their choice and they too have weighed up the risks to reward ratio and feel the risk is ok for them. 

I am quite unsure of what you mean though by how people who do BB are thought of.  How are they thought of? and who thinks it?
I sure as hell don't think anything about them and am happy they offer it blatantly so I can see which clients have seen them to avoid so lowering my risks.  We are all judged by those not in the industry and we know how it feels so we have no rights to judge anyone else or how they choose to work
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Re: Oral without, what do YOU think?
« Reply #13 on: 09 May 2014, 04:46:55 pm »
I use a variety of condoms, generally my preference are durex and they do something called a light or extra thin feel but to be honest, all the ones I have used, I don't have a problem with. 

Perhaps it's just an individual thing and I am so used to it now that I don't even think about the rubber taste or feel and it's a matter of getting used to it as no way would I go without. 

You can also get flavoured condoms you know but personally for me, I think it looks funny seeing a green/red/brown rubber on a willy.......... LOL  ;D

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« Reply #14 on: 09 May 2014, 04:58:48 pm »
Some people like having hundreds of etc - I'm sure I've said that oral sex is far more common in sex between men than anal is, and the vast majority is OWO.

Pee is sterile. Unless they have an infection in their genitals, they probably have more bacteria in their mouths.

I know pee is sterile, still don't want it in my mouth though several times a day, every day or at all for that matter but each to their own. You can only do what your comfortable with in this business x