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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Bunny on 01 October 2017, 10:38:35 pm
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I am thinking of offering a massage only with hand relief and oral only service with role play, water sports etc but just not sex, as I just get so burnt out from having sex and just dont enjoy it anymore.
I am a touring escort but thinking of to start offering incalls again and renting an apartment, as I cant see myself being busy on tour with not offering sex, I have checked out afew places that offer only massage and hand relief but the prices are really cheap and dont really fancy seeing a client for ?20 - ?30.
I am just wondering if there are any ladies out there that dont offer sex and of it worth renting an aparment instead of touring?
Thanks in advance xx
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hi well when i started out years ago was really busy used to book hotel twice a week and was none stop ,but times have changed and theres loads out there now only doing massage with hr so has slowed down alot ,but i have built good regs so keeps me going ,i would never do it for less then 80 as from home
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I am thinking of offering a massage only with hand relief and oral only service with role play, water sports etc but just not sex, as I just get so burnt out from having sex and just dont enjoy it anymore.
I am a touring escort but thinking of to start offering incalls again and renting an apartment, as I cant see myself being busy on tour with not offering sex, I have checked out afew places that offer only massage and hand relief but the prices are really cheap and dont really fancy seeing a client for ?20 - ?30.
I am just wondering if there are any ladies out there that dont offer sex and of it worth renting an aparment instead of touring?
Thanks in advance xx
I offe massage with hand relief and full servic seperately. When I feel ill or have had a cold sore, kidney infection etc etc I remove full service and stick to massage with hand relief. I charge ?50 half hour and ?90 for the hour. I was busy, still got guys asking if they could upgrade to full service once they arrived.
There is a market for massage with happy ending. Now playing am a twat and I won't do oral just hand relief so I would assume (rightly or wrongly) that guys would love oral as a ending more than a wank, so give it a go chick.
Just make sure you have lots of different adverts, AW, Backpage, gumtree, ace massage etc etc.
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I offe massage with hand relief and full servic seperately. When I feel ill or have had a cold sore, kidney infection etc etc I remove full service and stick to massage with hand relief. I charge ?50 half hour and ?90 for the hour. I was busy, still got guys asking if they could upgrade to full service once they arrived.
There is a market for massage with happy ending. Now playing am a twat and I won't do oral just hand relief so I would assume (rightly or wrongly) that guys would love oral as a ending more than a wank, so give it a go chick.
Just make sure you have lots of different adverts, AW, Backpage, gumtree, ace massage etc etc.
?50 half hour and ?90 for the hour with hand relief and not OWO, right?
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i meant 80 the hour 50 half hour with hr only
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?50 half hour and ?90 for the hour with hand relief and not OWO, right?
That's correct I only give hand relief in massage. If they want oral it's full service fee.
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i meant 80 the hour 50 half hour with hr only
Thank you for your reply! i was curious..yes many look for owo more than hand (as hand relief they can do by themself) but if with massage may be they are interested as Stress relief. Some clients married are aware about potential infection or other so that could be appelling for them.
i think that there is a market for it! it is more light as activity....giving massage can be hard work for some, me i like...giving a massage relax me a lot!
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Thank you for your reply! i was curious..yes many look for owo more than hand (as hand relief they can do by themself) but if with massage may be they are interested as Stress relief. Some clients married are aware about potential infection or other so that could be appelling for them.
i think that there is a market for it! it is more light as activity....giving massage can be hard work for some, me i like...giving a massage relax me a lot!
But be careful with the oil when doing oral, the fucjers will grab/touch your head/hair and get the oil from their body/cock into your hair. You will need to wash your hair to get it out,noontime put any heat products on your hair (straighteners/curling tongues etc) as your hair will burn and snap off.
I have sadly found this out the hard way. What I do is have hair down when they arrive then when client face down on table I clip my hair up or back, so the oil doesn't go near hair, as it gets in my way anyway.
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Yes, there is a market for sensual massage.
All I offer is HR at the end.
I'm doing long sessions only and usually allow them to overstay, so my hourly rate is around 75.
I don't get naked and I don't allow any touching.
Like mySecret, giving a massage relaxes me. It can be very rewarding.
And I think there is a huge market for a massage with foot fetish!
Even though my advert is clear, often I get phone calls asking about feet and a foot job.
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But be careful with the oil when doing oral, the fucjers will grab/touch your head/hair and get the oil from their body/cock into your hair. You will need to wash your hair to get it out,noontime put any heat products on your hair (straighteners/curling tongues etc) as your hair will burn and snap off.
I have sadly found this out the hard way. What I do is have hair down when they arrive then when client face down on table I clip my hair up or back, so the oil doesn't go near hair, as it gets in my way anyway.
thank you Nora for that! xxx
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cocunuts oil is nice but i think that it is expensive?
i m using baby, nuru oil and a basic lotion.
somebody use cocunut?
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cocunuts oil is nice but i think that it is expensive?
i m using baby, nuru oil and a basic lotion.
somebody use cocunut?
Don't use oils that contain nuts as you may have a client that's allergic. I use Grapeseed oil which you can buy on Amazon or eBay. I pay ?7.99 a litre. I always ask massage clients if they have any allergies, lumps, bumps or cuts as you don't massage over the.
Also if a client has had recent surgery don't touch that area as you can damage them. Nlijewise if a client has had cancer that area is not to be touched as you can stimulate things.
Sorry I know this is probably too much info.
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thanks again! i got a nuru massage oil from Amazon, very very sticky!
i tried once nuru, i much more prefer the classic massage!
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50 minutes massage with 10 minutes of Hand relief in the end.
maybe it is not good to write that will be only 10 mins HR...to me is already too much! my biceps! LOL :P :P ;D
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50 minutes massage with 10 minutes of Hand relief in the end.
maybe it is not good to write that will be only 10 mins HR...to me is already too much! my biceps! LOL :P :P ;D
Half hour massage
10 mins massage back, 5 mins massage to back of each keg, 10 min Wank
1 hour massage
15 mins back, 10 mins back of each leg. Ask client to turn over. Ten mins pecs and shoulders, 5 mins top half of each leg, rest wanky time.
With massage never ever touch the spine of the back of leg behind knee too many nerves and you will damage the. Go to either side of spine massage there.
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Half hour massage
10 mins massage back, 5 mins massage to back of each keg, 10 min Wank
1 hour massage
15 mins back, 10 mins back of each leg. Ask client to turn over. Ten mins pecs and shoulders, 5 mins top half of each leg, rest wanky time.
With massage never ever touch the spine of the back of leg behind knee too many nerves and you will damage the. Go to either side of spine massage there.
thank you! xxxx
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I have tried similar (massage & HR) and got very few clients to make it worth while.
I then upped my offer and excluded penetration and at one point I got more business than when I offered full sex. Role play and WS will get you attention. I also offered a toy and pussy show with lube (no client touching) and a fake orgasm. This was popular. I then got BV, thrush and a generally worn out pussy from too much of that (coincided with a bad phase of hormonal contraception).
I'm now back in full health and offer both vaginal and anal sex - but like you I'm thinking of limiting penetration. WS seems to be a very popular service - when I have made a thing about this, I always get more interest, particularly from guys in their 20s
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What I have found with massage clients is that they don't feel they are sexual clients. So no kissing and penetration makes them feel as if they haven't cheated on their wives. So by offering penetration/role play/kissing/water sorts may be putting them off.
Yes I know and you know different, but this I have found very common.
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What I have found with massage clients is that they don't feel they are sexual clients. So no kissing and penetration makes them feel as if they haven't cheated on their wives. So by offering penetration/role play/kissing/water sorts may be putting them off.
Yes I know and you know different, but this I have found very common.
yes, me too! i found that married ones looking for it mostly..the loyals ones ! sometimes i am impress as they sharing with we their guilty..so they prefer look for a massage!
in my mind i think...wife is lucky to have a husband like that! xx
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cocunuts oil is nice but i think that it is expensive?
i m using baby, nuru oil and a basic lotion.
somebody use cocunut?
Yes, I switched to fractionated coconut oil recently. It works out around ?10 per 1 litre.
It's absoultely fragrance free, feels great on the skin and is quite efficient.
Apparently the best oils are jojoba and fractionated coconut as they resemble sebum on the skin.
And they are much easier to wash out from the towels!
I'm not sure if coconut oil is dangerous for people with nut allergies.
From what I read online, coconut is actually classified as a fruit. But I might be wrong.
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I only do massage with hand relief and tantric and I charge ?60 and ?120. I don't offer oral or anything. Iv been doing it 4 years and it's the best thing I ever did. You do have to be brave and believe in your service as ppl are gonna offer you hundreds more to have sex or do oral, but for me it's just something I needed a break with.
Invest in a good massage couch and get yourself on a course, I fell in love with Massage after a short corse called Massage for beginers then once I knew I loved it I self invested in courses with other training providers. I find that most of my clients just want a professional massage with added sensuality. If you do that youl get lotts of regs.
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Yes, I switched to fractionated coconut oil recently. It works out around ?10 per 1 litre.
It's absoultely fragrance free, feels great on the skin and is quite efficient.
Apparently the best oils are jojoba and fractionated coconut as they resemble sebum on the skin.
And they are much easier to wash out from the towels!
I'm not sure if coconut oil is dangerous for people with nut allergies.
From what I read online, coconut is actually classified as a fruit. But I might be wrong.
thank you!
one bad side of coco is closing pores....honestly i do not know about allergy..i think is matter when you ingest that! but i am not professional so...about closing pores i am sure! there are a scale for all oil about that.
i would like to experiment Olive oil...ahah but i do not think many clients will love ahahah
anyway i am worried about to precise fees on aw with timing, as i think that AW do not like it.
As my main service is escorting i should create a tab with price and time.
i do not know if i can...many girls do..i do not like too much take risk on aw..
I bought essential oil on amazon, i mix them with baby oil...clients like that..peppermint, lavander, orange...
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I do massage and hand relief (no oral) Its decent once you have built up your regulars, obviously you have to put more energy into it, but I like to be active, try it and see if you like it. Its a bit more competitive the past 6 months because more girls are offering it, but as long as you click with your clients, you should do pretty well. Obviously its not the same kind of money escorts earn but its less services offered.
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Yes, I switched to fractionated coconut oil recently. It works out around ?10 per 1 litre.
It's absoultely fragrance free, feels great on the skin and is quite efficient.
Apparently the best oils are jojoba and fractionated coconut as they resemble sebum on the skin.
And they are much easier to wash out from the towels!
I'm not sure if coconut oil is dangerous for people with nut allergies.
From what I read online, coconut is actually classified as a fruit. But I might be wrong.
I used Coconut oil when my usual oil was out of stock, its beautiful to use, but I found I had to use too much when doing body to body, I very rarely get oil on the towels anymore because I use the couch roll to wipe the oil before they shower, the worst oil I ever used was grapeseed oil, its way too greasy and if that does get on the towels its extremely difficult to wash out, I threw away lots of towels after using.
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I used Coconut oil when my usual oil was out of stock, its beautiful to use, but I found I had to use too much when doing body to body, I very rarely get oil on the towels anymore because I use the couch roll to wipe the oil before they shower, the worst oil I ever used was grapeseed oil, its way too greasy and if that does get on the towels its extremely difficult to wash out, I threw away lots of towels after using.
Thank you for the tip - wiping with the roll sounds like a good idea.
I agree that when doing b2b, coconut is not super efficient. I really like this oil though, it's absoultely lovely.
I was also thinking of adding essential oils, but the clients will need a choice between fragrance free and with added essential oils. I need to read a bit more about aromatherapy. Thanks for bringing that up, mySecret!
When it comes to laundry and towels, what I found the best is to add washing soda and a degreaser to get rid of the oil and save the towels.
Do you have any idea how to make towels fluffy ? ???
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Thank you for the tip - wiping with the roll sounds like a good idea.
I agree that when doing b2b, coconut is not super efficient. I really like this oil though, it's absoultely lovely.
I was also thinking of adding essential oils, but the clients will need a choice between fragrance free and with added essential oils. I need to read a bit more about aromatherapy. Thanks for bringing that up, mySecret!
When it comes to laundry and towels, what I found the best is to add washing soda and a degreaser to get rid of the oil and save the towels.
Do you have any idea how to make towels fluffy ? ???
Coconut oil is the best oil I have used for massage, another thing I have done to cut out oil from towels is buy the packs of 3 massage sponges in abundance (home bargains) 59p per pack and I put the shower gel on the hard part of sponge for them....I am so anal about oil on towels loool
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Girls who have tranistioned from offering full service to offering sensual massage only, did you keep the same profile on AW or did you start up with a fresh profile?
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Coconut oil is the best oil I have used for massage, another thing I have done to cut out oil from towels is buy the packs of 3 massage sponges in abundance (home bargains) 59p per pack and I put the shower gel on the hard part of sponge for them....I am so anal about oil on towels loool
Haha, good one ;D
As I'm also doing a bit of a foot massage during the sessions, I recently bought a box of disposable slippers.
Not a great buy as they are rather small, but so far clients dutifully use them.
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Girls who have tranistioned from offering full service to offering sensual massage only, did you keep the same profile on AW or did you start up with a fresh profile?
I kept the old one as the feedback I have gives me some credibility. I removed field reports and deleted most of the photos.
I should change the name at least tbh.
It's a bit odd when new clients ask me what was I doing before giving massages and I say that escorting... that sheer horror on some faces...
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I kept the old one as the feedback I have gives me some credibility. I removed field reports and deleted most of the photos.
I should change the name at least tbh.
It's a bit odd when new clients ask me what was I doing before giving massages and I say that escorting... that sheer horror on some faces...
At the moment I offer a choice of either sensual massage or full service. Would love to take the plunge and just do massage. Do your escort clients now come to you for massage?
Do you get outcall massage bookings?
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At the moment I offer a choice of either sensual massage or full service. Would love to take the plunge and just do massage. Do your escort clients now come to you for massage?
Do you get outcall massage bookings?
I offer both on my profile. I have seperate tabs for each service. I have found you get the odd escort client book a massage service and push his luck trying to grope me. I don't allow it. I will strip down to panties for an extra ?10 but they are not to touch under my knickers.
I am slowly moving away from full service. I am a tourer too, so I have a mobile table and make sure each place I rent has enough room to comfortably accommodate my table. I take my own towels everywhere.
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At the moment I offer a choice of either sensual massage or full service. Would love to take the plunge and just do massage. Do your escort clients now come to you for massage?
Do you get outcall massage bookings?
After I quit escorting, I lost almost all of my clients. I couldn't understand why. It was rather disheartening as even the oldest, most regular ones dropped me in a moment without a second thought.
I had a few, who wanted to try the new offering, but in most cases the sessions weren't great.
Finally I realized that it's a very different service and just not for everyone.
Clients looking for an escort have a very different mindset and needs.
What is very important for me now is that within my new boundaries I can act accordingly to what I actually feel.
As an escort I was switching off from my feelings in some way, I mean it was still pleasant but I had to dissociate this mechanical pleasure from every other aspect of myself.
I had to shut up any feelings or thoughts that would interfere with my work.
I had to focus on attuning myself to whatever they needed.
And really, clients who book an escort don't really care how you're feeling, even the nice ones (or rather hypocrytical) who say that they want you to enjoy yourself. Nope. They only want to feel better about themselves.
At the end of the day they want to use someone (or something) to have their needs met.
What a massage gives me is boundaries. I can attune to what I really feel.
I can be okay with a client touching me if I really feel that I want it.
Clients in general are respectful of my boundaries, and careful about touching me. It made a big difference in my life.
Then there are the ones on the 'idiot spectrum', who just want to use you for a wank (emphasis on 'use'...), grab etc.
When doing a massage, I also can be giving without ending up being resentful, angry and feeling used.
Coming back to your question after this lenghty intro...
I lost almost all of my escorting clients. It was brutal and I was broke and desperate for quite some time.
These days it's okay-ish. I work longer hours and for less but I'm much happier.
Can't say much about outcalls, I don't do them.
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After I quit escorting, I lost almost all of my clients. I couldn't understand why. It was rather disheartening as even the oldest, most regular ones dropped me in a moment without a second thought.
I had a few, who wanted to try the new offering, but in most cases the sessions weren't great.
Finally I realized that it's a very different service and just not for everyone.
Clients looking for an escort have a very different mindset and needs.
What is very important for me now is that within my new boundaries I can act accordingly to what I actually feel.
As an escort I was switching off from my feelings in some way, I mean it was still pleasant but I had to dissociate this mechanical pleasure from every other aspect of myself.
I had to shut up any feelings or thoughts that would interfere with my work.
I had to focus on attuning myself to whatever they needed.
And really, clients who book an escort don't really care how you're feeling, even the nice ones (or rather hypocrytical) who say that they want you to enjoy yourself. Nope. They only want to feel better about themselves.
At the end of the day they want to use someone (or something) to have their needs met.
What a massage gives me is boundaries. I can attune to what I really feel.
I can be okay with a client touching me if I really feel that I want it.
Clients in general are respectful of my boundaries, and careful about touching me. It made a big difference in my life.
Then there are the ones on the 'idiot spectrum', who just want to use you for a wank (emphasis on 'use'...), grab etc.
When doing a massage, I also can be giving without ending up being resentful, angry and feeling used.
Coming back to your question after this lenghty intro...
I lost almost all of my escorting clients. It was brutal and I was broke and desperate for quite some time.
These days it's okay-ish. I work longer hours and for less but I'm much happier.
Can't say much about outcalls, I don't do them.
i understand a lot! just wondering how you did the change...was difficult to do so...
guess you take time to made the change...
Do you had some self doubt about it?
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i understand a lot! just wondering how you did the change...was difficult to do so...
guess you take time to made the change...
Do you had some self doubt about it?
I went through a soul searching phase and I guess a lot of suppressed feelings just started to come to the surface.
I physically couldn't stand penetration anymore, it became so repulsive.
It was like my body's automatic response that I couldn't really understand at the time.
Initially I thought I will be doing sexy massages with kissing and BJ but I couldn't do that either.
So I went cold turkey. Threw away high heels, all stockings and toys.
No, I haven't had any doubts since.
It's been a mental/ emotional change on many levels. I stopped drinking alcohol for example.
For me, the way I functioned as an escort was by being used and suppressing my feelings that would otherwise interrupt with my survival (making money).
What I'm still trying to figure out is how this pattern has been generally operating in my life.
Sorry if it's not clear.
And also another thing - I wouldn't like to play a victim by saying that clients were using me.
I was using them just the same.
Why did I choose to play this game? I still don't know.