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« Reply #15 on: 05 March 2009, 10:13:52 am »

Also I've thought of describing myself as a "travel wife" or just a "travel assistant".


I dont know much about your line  of work, mine seems to be completely different but i would have thought using the word wife would be disastrous.  Surely if they wanted the wife with them they would have taken her.  I suppose it depends why these men want you there in the first place.   And i have to agree with the men you spoke to.  I cant see that a website would help because the kind of companionship you offer doesnt sound like something people go out of there way to find, maybe you are more likely to be invited along to something if someone knows you.

I dont know really, like i said, its a business i know nothing about and as for my friend, I dont know either way what she was doing because I didnt think to much about it at the time.  Either way she made alot of money and was happy doing it and got to do some traveling about sometimes so good on her.

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« Reply #16 on: 05 March 2009, 01:58:58 pm »
Hi LEXIE ;)
Yes it is true about what you advise - I "fell" into this in the 1st place by travelling with older executives I had known on a sort of platonic/social arrangement and got a few more here and there from those people and by meeting others on the trips I went on. Now that I'm trying to formalise things, gosh it's hard to do! I thought of "wife" because I do a lot of the more intimate things people wouldn't consider an assistant doing (I mean like cooking and washing socks... in addition to posing as the girlfriend LOL). In any case I have decided to use the term "travel assistant" instead. I think the term escort has evolved, so perhaps "assistant" will communicate suitably.... Oh, I looked into the private tour guide option and that looks like it has great possibilities - the pay for a standard tour guide (English speaking only and I assume not based on physical attractiveness/allure), is about what I charge per full day so that's great. Thinking back on any of the trips I've been on: our tour guides, instructors etc always had a strong element of companionship, so with a few pictures I think that that is my best direction to aim towards so I don't mislead anyone or put myself in awkward situations.

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« Reply #17 on: 05 March 2009, 05:50:41 pm »
Hi Adriana!

It sounds as if you are really making some progress and finding some footholds into the job you want - good luck to you and well done! Frankly I would rather shag them then wash their socks any day of the week, but each to her own.....

Keep us informed and let us know how you're getting on!  :)

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« Reply #18 on: 05 March 2009, 06:23:24 pm »
Hi LEXIE ;)
Yes it is true about what you advise - I "fell" into this in the 1st place by travelling with older executives I had known on a sort of platonic/social arrangement and got a few more here and there from those people and by meeting others on the trips I went on. Now that I'm trying to formalise things, gosh it's hard to do! I thought of "wife" because I do a lot of the more intimate things people wouldn't consider an assistant doing (I mean like cooking and washing socks... in addition to posing as the girlfriend LOL). In any case I have decided to use the term "travel assistant" instead. I think the term escort has evolved, so perhaps "assistant" will communicate suitably.... Oh, I looked into the private tour guide option and that looks like it has great possibilities - the pay for a standard tour guide (English speaking only and I assume not based on physical attractiveness/allure), is about what I charge per full day so that's great. Thinking back on any of the trips I've been on: our tour guides, instructors etc always had a strong element of companionship, so with a few pictures I think that that is my best direction to aim towards so I don't mislead anyone or put myself in awkward situations.

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Good on ya.  Good luck with it.  Maybe even try Personal Travel assistant or Executive Travel Assistant.  Have fun, let us know how it goes, hell i might do it as a side line (nah, i wont really hehehe)


edit:  and maybe if you can offer secretarial services with it aswell as the sock washing stuff.  Hell go the whole hog and offer to do there packing too.  its amazing what people will pay for.  do you know you can pay someone to come in to your home and organise your wardrobe.... wish mine were bigger enough to warant that kind of thing
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« Reply #19 on: 10 March 2009, 03:35:53 pm »
Hey LEXIE,

I'll let you al all know how it is going! :) If it works, I believe it will be better if more people offered a specifically non sexual "Companion Travel Assistant" as a defined service. It would be easier to market as a specific service and not so obscure or super specialized - as my problem always falls down to perception what exactly I am offering and misinterpretation because I don't offer sexual.

Hehh.  ;) We are thinking alike... I added image consulting (including organising wardrobe, shopping etc) as one of my specialized services... just trying to verbalize and classify everything I offer in a formal, well communicated statement... Phew! **Also I thought maybe I could work with some of the lovely ladies here by offering to find/arrange an escort to the client's specific needs during travel (hope that's not illegal?).

...I decided to go ahead with a website after-all. Will put a link next couple weeks.

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« Reply #20 on: 10 March 2009, 07:13:43 pm »
Also I thought maybe I could work with some of the lovely ladies here by offering to find/arrange an escort to the client's specific needs during travel (hope that's not illegal?).

It could be, though even if it technically is it's highly unlikely that anyone would bother going after you for it. You'd be most at risk if you took a commission; someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you can't be charged with controlling prostitution (of an adult) if you're not gaining from it. To separate yourself from it further you can avoid arranging the booking, just give your client the number of someone you think he'd like. I think going either route (not making money from the booking or not arranging it) would keep you on the right side of the law.

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« Reply #21 on: 11 March 2009, 02:06:15 pm »
Having first had experience what spoiled brats some of the richest and most successful businessmen can be as a so-called high flying Executive PA a few years back.  I would much rather have sex and then leave them to pack their own suitcases and run their own show.  :D

But good luck with your endeavours!

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« Reply #22 on: 11 March 2009, 04:13:08 pm »
Hello ANNIKA MAE (and BURLESQUEHONEY) :) - yes, your comments relate exactly to what I was wondering. I''ll have to research the legal side. I wouldn't really want to/need to take a commission. {It's a reciprocal thing that could help me do my job better... don't have any experience with offering this (yet), but thinking back it seems like arranging a good escort would probably be welcomed by at least half of clients... this has been a good place to make some nice contacts in addition to the advice I've gotten}. But I do know I would have to deal with practical work from finding through to booking. The men are busy and like Burlesque ;) so, so, accurately puts it:
Having first had experience what spoiled brats some of the richest and most successful businessmen can be
Any of the men I've ever known (even the really nice ones) would not expect to make any effort themselves of dealing with arrangements of most things.
Thanks for writing your thoughts, I hope I will be sending one of you a little private message in the next couple of months.

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« Reply #23 on: 11 March 2009, 09:58:53 pm »
Hey,
I'm in the same boat as you :]
I' love to do escorting, only non-sexual. I have a boyfriend, so I wouldn't be comfortable to do any form of sexual "service".
I really admire escort girls - if I wasn't taken I'd be doing it independantly!
There must be some men out there who wish to only "date" an escort girl, or even take her out to be seen out with her by his colleagues. Even to improve their own confidence with women - my boyfriend thinks this is a really good idea, and possibly have the potential for a big market. Some men can't talk to women, so I'd be a tutor, improving their confidence to approach a woman and such.
If someone would be interested in creating an agency for non-sexual escorts, I'd be more than interested in joining up!

Kisses! Lou x

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« Reply #24 on: 12 March 2009, 12:53:47 am »
Lou, I've seen two sites offering the sort of services you're describing, one was called Dinner Date and the other Winggirls. Neither of those exist anymore (there is a Winggirls LA at the moment but that's not much use to you), which suggests that it's not an easy business model, but if you and your boyfriend are that into the idea, there's nothing to stop you trying it yourselves.
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« Reply #25 on: 12 March 2009, 10:42:11 am »
Also I thought maybe I could work with some of the lovely ladies here by offering to find/arrange an escort to the client's specific needs during travel (hope that's not illegal?).

It could be, though even if it technically is it's highly unlikely that anyone would bother going after you for it. You'd be most at risk if you took a commission; someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you can't be charged with controlling prostitution (of an adult) if you're not gaining from it. To separate yourself from it further you can avoid arranging the booking, just give your client the number of someone you think he'd like.

Yes, you can control it or gain from it - what's seen as naughty is doing both.

I can see a teeny risk if someone who's paid to be around does everything regarding the booking, as not everyone is going to see the separation of the money they get paid from what they're doing, but the chances of anyone caring are minimal and doubtless numerous secretaries get told to arrange the evening 'entertainment' and don't get done for controlling for gain.

Doing it the "Here's the phone numbers of a couple of people I think you'd like" way is a good idea anyway - lots of workers aren't going to turn up without having spoken to the actual client anyway.


(Oh just to complete the picture, while it won't make you popular with the neighbours, it's not illegal to gain from child prostitution, just to control it.)
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« Reply #26 on: 14 March 2009, 12:39:11 am »
Hello LOU/MissMastif.
There are a few agencies offering strictly social only companion services. I have not signed with any of them myself. They are certainly entitled to their commission, but for me personally I feel that the amount they offer is a little too low even before commission. Also not convinced that they would keep me in work in any case (although I formed that opinion after researching escort blogs, so it's not from direct experience). They could possibly be a decent platform. However, all but one of the few I found seem pretty down market in their offer. I don't want to throw any stones at what could be legit businesses when it's only my opinion (and in a field I'd like to see grow), so message me privately if you can't find any and need links... SEARCH for "Social Companion", or "Non-Sexual Companion" or "Non-Sexual Escort".

Also, if you don't mind me saying... My choice not to offer sexual services is a personal choice and what's right for me. It seems like you would be open to doing sexual escorting only for the fact you have a man. So maybe it would be good for you? I'm not saying your boyfriend's feelings on the matter are not valuable, but I think many escorts have boyfriends. If it is something you'd seriously be personally happy to do, maybe you chould try to find a way to work it out?

HI XW5

Yes, you can control it or gain from it - what's seen as naughty is doing both.......I can see a teeny risk if someone who's paid to be around does everything regarding the booking, as not everyone is going to see the separation of the money they get paid from what they're doing.....Doing it the "Here's the phone numbers of a couple of people I think you'd like" way is a good idea anyway - lots of workers aren't going to turn up without having spoken to the actual client anyway.

more confused now actually LOL. I guess the closest thing it can be compared to is a sort of glorified personal assistant{ish} at least in that situation. I have thought about my original query and think logically; a lot of secretaries and concierges would be in deep crap if booking an escort for someone was illegal.  :o (oh my!)... Hmmm but now I am worried about "gaining and controlling"... in any case it's good to know if most girls would insist to talk to the client anyway, then that closes the question.

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« Reply #27 on: 25 January 2010, 11:48:02 am »
Hi there Adriana, I think you have a really great idea. Please get in touch with me if you ever see this!lol

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« Reply #28 on: 09 April 2010, 05:04:08 pm »
Hi there Adriana, I think you have a really great idea. Please get in touch with me if you ever see this!lol

RE: NON SEXUAL SERVICES - Personal Concierge, Professional Travel Companion, Private Tour Guide, Wing Woman , Stylist etc

Dear Sophia Roseand anyone else interested : )
Sorry for this late response. I actually checked in to post some information about my experience and saw your request by chance. The girls here were very welcoming and helpful to me when I came here looking for help, so I just wanted to give a little help back if I can to anyone interested. I don't know if any of this helps but I will check in the next few weeks to answer what I can...

Firstly I will say that I am no longer pursuing personal concierge and non sexual companion/assistant work as a career. The reason for this is I found a wonderful person who convinced me otherwise and I no longer need to work. This man was originally a curious friend I shared a lot of my personal life with. Eventually the friendship became romantic and my new boyfriend was unhappy and intimidated with this type of work - even though it is non-sexual, I guess in the majority of the public eye it is seen as more than that. When I refused to stop concierge work (a girl needs to eat) he offered to cover above what ever I would make allowing me to pursue other interests and goals I have - actually this happened before the romance started. Probably financial support via a love relationship would not suit every one (and tell you the truth at the time it was not at all what I was looking for myself), but for me it has actually offered more freedom to achieve what I want and really enhanced my life and happiness.  So my first bit of advice would be to be open with people about what you do and be firm in your intentions - you never know what might develop… Just another note: I was brutally honest about my needs and feelings to my then just friend. This may scare some people away, but I think it is the best way - for both parties -  for anyone who finds themselves in that situation.

IN MY EXPERIENCE:
1st Concierge work and related types of intimate non-sexual work is difficult work to come by. While everyone instantly understands more traditional female roles: wife, secretary/personal assistant , girlfriend, escort, etc, there is somehow not a familiar place yet in our vocabulary for this type of work  - although it somewhat more common in the US as a job for both men and women. Oddly however, most men I have ever met seem to need a person fulfilling this role(s) in their life. The trick is mostly how you represent yourself. Part of the problem I found in finding work is potential clients just don't know what you are offering and they become confused and possibly put-off.  Since concierge and travel companion work (generally the two labels I decided on) are quite complex and include a lot of different services within themselves, I think having different cards printed may be the best approaches. Also for your own peace of mind be clear in what you are offering and how you present yourself - you will have A LOT of men assuming you are just offering sex in a clever disguise, or asking for sex - no matter how much you try to make it clear, no matter how elegantly you present yourself and all your lovely services.

TYPE: This is actually a job where the older woman has an advantage. My opinion is that most ages over 25 would be more successful at this. (I am in my 30's but look very young and I think I would have had more work if I looked older.) I think unfortunately though most men are looking for a "vanilla" sort of girl. i.e. More on the conservative or plainly dressed pretty secretary type - probably Caucasian - who can dress up to look sexier when necessary. In any case if you present yourself sort of as a blank canvass in the beginning you can always adapt to client needs later. That goes for personality as well. Anyone who can afford your services will be successful and used to being in charge. Privately many clients may be relieved to have someone take charge. But publicly being more on the demure side will generally serve you better  - at least in the beginning of a job (again just my experience) . Although this work is quite intimate in many ways it different to sexual work. Much of your work will be subject to the public gaze and governed by what others think, so someone who can make a good impression - or at least not make a bad impression - will find it easier to get more clientsin many cases… I'm NOT saying I like this at all or think it's fair (it sucks and I myself don't fit into this "vanilla type"), but that's just the way it is - sadly most people choose magnolia walls....

MARKETING: I found word of mouth is the best way. I did not find a website or advertising helpful at all. Although you have to find a client for word of mouth to work in the first place - maybe offer to do an assignment for free or very cheaply the first time. I had MANY offers from men just looking for a travel companion with all expenses paid and nothing else -On the other hand offering to work for free may back-fire, since people usually are connected to those similar to themselves you may not get further work off of a freebie - just open yourself up to hassle from someone looking for a girlfriend…. Secondly I found self promotion the best - either directly to potential clients or via companies who offer luxury goods and services to suitable clients:

Make some pretty business cards up and hand out to potential clients. I think these MUST be professionally printed and not hand printed on a home printer (there are a lot of cheap printing on demand companies now who do them very cheaply and it is easy to set up on-line). Companies who sell high end products: yacht suppliers/builders, golfing equipment, ski equipment, luxury property developers & real-estate agents, specialist wine merchants are all good places. Lifestyle companies who service the wealthy may be interested in taking you on their books, although I never got around to trying this myself - just remember essentially these are in effect organised concierge companies themselves. Finally networking if you have the stomach for it. Good choices are: high-end bars, resorts, and trade fairs/conferences for professionals (many conferences and exhibitions are open to the public - you can often get a free ticket if you apply in advance).

**For Private Tour Guide services specifically (business people often are in town only for a day and need someone to "show them around") Someone who is friendly and pretty with a good knowledge of the local area can make a good living at this. Also "Tour Guide" is a more understood and acceptable job/label. You can approach hotels (go for the small up market boutique hotels where you can talk directly to the owner). Museums, travel companies, tourist information centres for this - it will need to be very clear you are offering private TOUR GUIDE services, not "illicit services". Although not all of these sort of establishments will take you seriously or be happy to meet with you, it is already an established and understood "respectable" job - in fact I have been on assignments where the client also hired such a person to take us around. A company where you can meet with the owner/decision maker is best. Also you can just make a general Tour Guide serves and add your photo and a bi about your self on a website (the time a website will actually be helpful)

FEE: My recommendation -  £450/$675 per full day (£45/$68 per hour over four hours) Under 4 hours I charge £75 per hour with 3 hour minimum. Be careful openly listing single hours as that will give the wrong impression. For overnight short term travel (like a long weekend) you should charge more and for long term travel (like the whole season) or a long term straight concierge appointment you can offer a discount. Travel costs and expenses (meals etc) should be covered by the client. EVENTS COMPANION, TRAVEL COMPANION: You need to pay for your own clothes and grooming, and you should have a good selection of various types of clothes to suit the assignment but if a client asks specifically for you to wear something you don't have (provided you offer a good selection), then they should pay. They should also provide/pay for room and board. This may be a mute point, since many clients will want you to stay with them in their quarters in the case of Travel Companions. Awkward one. Sorry not much advice.

PHOTOS:
Have some professional pretty but tame looking photos done. Some refined sexy looking ones can be included. Don't show too much skin and look friendly and approachable. The exception is bathing suit photos-  some people will ask for these, just don't have your hand down the front of your bikini with your legs spread and your mouth open, if you know what I mean. LOL

HERE IS MY FACEBOOK PAGE:
http://www.facebook.com/adrianacompanion

I will leave this up for a while for anyone who wants to have a look I had moderate success with this. Unfortunately the majority of contacts where still looking for sex (or marriage?) and it was VERY time consuming to manage… Feel free to copy any text. The more common this is as a job the easier it will be for those of us who want to peruse it.
NOTE: (I found myspace and making a private website far more trouble than helpful. Having a separate website for each area of service you offer might be effective but I did not try this myself)


**JUST TO SAY:  this is my 2nd attempt at giving advice and my personal experience. My 1st ended up being a novella and had a billion links. I wanted to cut it down in order to be appropriate as a post here (not sure how long/short posts are supposed to be), but unfortunately lost it in my attempt also to be discrete (I think I hid it in my computer's trash bin - stupid I know). So This entry is much shorter and general. For anyone interested I will check back for the next couple weeks when I can to answer anything I have an answer to.

My Facebook page might be more helpful -again I will leave it up for several weeks and anyone who wants to copy it for their own use is welcome to (with the exception of any of my photos of course LOL - thanks)

HOPE THAT HELPS,
kisses Adriana
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« Reply #29 on: 15 April 2010, 05:04:48 pm »
Thanks for coming back and telling us about it Adrianna, I was wondering how you got on. Feel free to post anything you think would be useful (you can split it up if it gets too long for one post). We don't get them that often, but whenever someone turns up who seems like they might be serious about non-sexual work I point them to this thread.