Hiya!

Does anybody know of any forums like this one that cater for gay male escorts? I have found sw5.info which is very helpful but a forum like this where I can get advice from other guys would be great. Having said this, there is a lot of information on the main site that can apply to me, so I have read every page. Thanks to the site creators for creating a really comprehensive resource with some good common sense advice! Really good site...

Hey Joey, thanks for your response! Maybe you can help me then...

I am very new to this whole game, and have only so far had two clients. On Saturday night I have arranged what will be my first "overnight" booking, and I am wondering what that will usually entail... I will happily stay up fucking all night if that's what is needed, but I wonder whether that is usually the case (do middle aged men really have that much energy!), will I get some sleep or whatever (I am a young (24) guy with plenty of energy, and can easily go all night if that is what's required, but should I leave the next day to recover from the lack of sleep, etc) Also for how long should you reasonably be expected to stay for an overnight - what time would be a reasonable leaving time, etc etc.

Oh, and one other thing. Originally I have been charging ?150 (yes, I'm a Brit - but I am sure it is the same here as it is over there) for a meet, ?400 for an overnight. These prices stemmed from the agreed price with my first client, who seemed more than happy with the "goods" (ahem, how sordid ) I don't really want to set a time limit or a ph rate on the "meet" because I want to keep my clients and don't want to be seen as clock-watching. This is problematic though, when a normal meet extends, when should I start to classify as an overnight? Any other guys got any tips as to pricing and these sort of issues?

I don't really want to set a time limit or a ph rate on the "meet" because I want to keep my clients and don't want to be seen as clock-watching. This is problematic though, when a normal meet extends, when should I start to classify as an overnight? Any other guys got any tips as to pricing and these sort of issues?

I dont get what youre saying when you say you dont want to set a time limit because it seems like clock watching? I have hour and half-hour appointments. I dont rush anyone up, but as the ladies on here will tell you...its not so cool to let a 1 hour appointment turn into a 4 hour marathon (unless youre ok with that). I did that when I 1st started out too...and ended up doing an overnight for a measly hour rate. After that I wasnt playing around anymore.

Having to set a time limit is good. You dont have to stop immediately when it hits one hour, but if it starts to go over just bring it to a close. The max is about 15-20 minutes after the time limit is up...but that rarely happens.

and one more thing...dont know who the guy is but it may or may not involve lots of sex. I been with people where I fucked before bed, the middle of the night, and again in the morning. The mornings are the WORST for me!

A very good American site, Hook Online, used to have a message board, but it got spammed to death (the owner never took up any of the offers of help to stop that) and the whole site vanished.

There are a couple of others, but they are very quiet.

(do middle aged men really have that much energy!)

Not usually, but they do have access to erection drugs if they want to fuck you and some of them use various other stimulants too. Clients on coke and cialis can bore you to death in more than one way.

I'd be interested on hearing opinions from other guys (or girls) on this, though I do believe that generally girls can get more money than guys in the UK. I am a newbie to this though so could so please correct me if I am wrong here, but if the commercial profiles on Gaydar are to be believed then the going rate for an overnight meet for gay male is between ?300 and ?500 (with the occasional ?1000+ but I've only seen that once or twice)

Yes, women do tend to set (and get) higher rates than we do. Why? I dont know. Like I said, check out maleescortreview on what they say about it. No client would be willing to pay 1,000 for a male escort all at once. There is a such thing that clients expect to pay a certain amount, in the US its anywhere from $150-250 for an hour. Anything over $300 doesnt sell very well, and some have even said the expereince wasnt that well either. Dont get me wrong though, I've been paid over 300 for 30 minutes before...but its usually because I traveled or it was arranged that way. But it doesnt happen every week...I'd rather come home with more (less) than less (more).

Dont try to compete with women's prices. They will always be 50-100 higher than the male market. Thats just how it is. I know it sucks, but somehow it just ended up that way. The male market is still rather 'new' in an evolutionary perspective, so 1,000 or even 500 an hour doesnt register well. Also consider, some cities favor higher rates than others.

Apparently so! Earlier on today a guy offered me ?100 for an all nighter. Apparently in Coventry there are loads of guys that will do that cheap...

Jesus! Now that's just taking the piss. That's not even an hourly rate.

Quote from: bennyboywonder on 21 December 2008, 09:07:31 pm

I'd be interested on hearing opinions from other guys (or girls) on this, though I do believe that generally girls can get more money than guys in the UK. I am a newbie to this though so could so please correct me if I am wrong here, but if the commercial profiles on Gaydar are to be believed then the going rate for an overnight meet for gay male is between ?300 and ?500 (with the occasional ?1000+ but I've only seen that once or twice)

Yes, women do tend to set (and get) higher rates than we do. Why? I dont know.

Dont try to compete with women's prices. They will always be 50-100 higher than the male market. Thats just how it is. I know it sucks, but somehow it just ended up that way.

Women can charge more than men simply because there's more of a demand for female escorts. That's the way it's always been. The male escort market here is only but a small fraction compared to the female market. If you're gay or bi, then you're in with a chance of making money. If you're a straight male, your chances are greatly diminished in trying to make a living.

Having to set a time limit is good. You dont have to stop immediately when it hits one hour, but if it starts to go over just bring it to a close. The max is about 15-20 minutes after the time limit is up...but that rarely happens.

That is good advice. It's how I work. Whilst I don't clock-watch, I do try to be aware of how much time has passed. You will get some clients that will try to go over time with you, but will baulk at the idea if they thought they had to pay extra if you did.
As Joey says, start to slowly bring things to a close. If your client wants to come for say a second time, make sure he's worked up at least within the closing hour, so whilst you don't rush him, you can sort of time it so you don't go over your allotted hour. It all sounds a bit complicated, but honestly, it'll come naturally to you.

There are some instances where you really do click with a customer, and you don't mind staying over a little bit. But make sure that's up to you, and it's what you want.

Oh, and one other thing. Originally I have been charging ?150 (yes, I'm a Brit - but I am sure it is the same here as it is over there) for a meet, ?400 for an overnight. These prices stemmed from the agreed price with my first client, who seemed more than happy with the "goods" (ahem, how sordid ) I don't really want to set a time limit or a ph rate on the "meet" because I want to keep my clients and don't want to be seen as clock-watching. This is problematic though, when a normal meet extends, when should I start to classify as an overnight? Any other guys got any tips as to pricing and these sort of issues?

Between ?400-?500 seems about right for an overnight. But I'm slightly concerned by what you said above re: extending normal meets.
If a customer wants to extend with you, make sure that's mentioned at the beginning of a booking, so there are no misunderstanding. It can happen though, that the client is having such a great time with you that he does want to extend the booking. You need to make sure and quote him the rate it states on your website. If he has to stop mid-appointment and get some more money, then so be it. Don't wait until after your extended time is over then you find out that whoops! he doesn't have the extra cash to give you.
It may seem a little awkward having to accept more money during a booking, but I'd rather put up with the awkwardness than find out at the end of the booking the client didn't have the extra fee to give you at the end. If nothing else you'd feel cheated and used.

I hope this all makes sense at this time of the morning.
And welcome btw. Thanks for the compliments on the site.

Well, Im in the U.S. and I dont have any buddy system. However, I could recommend just giving wherever address and phone number to a trusty friend and say something like, "If I dont call you by 11:00, then call me. If I dont pick up or call you back by a certain time, something is wrong".

Oh ok..I just skimmed through from top to bottom and it seems pretty good.

I would like to have something like that for men also which would work pretty well it seems.

Brandy what do you think about that site?