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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: harlotsea on 05 October 2015, 07:59:07 pm
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Hi everyone,
Really hope this is the right place to post this ? had a little look around and couldn't find any answers, but please move if there's somewhere more appropriate.
So I've very recently started advertising, haven't had any bookings yet because trying to get screening details out of clients - name, address, landline number/hotel details - is like trying to get blood out of a goddamn stone. >:( I have lurked enough on here to know that this is the minimum I should be getting out of potential clients before agreeing to an outcall (I don't currently offer incalls), so haven't met with anyone.
I just really thought it would be more routine to these men than this, especially as they seem to have AW feedback from other genuine escorts, who I know must have the same procedures... and then they act all shocked or evasive when I ask for these details.
Is this normal? Or am I going about this incorrectly? Maybe I should insist on them during the phone call so that they can't prevaricate via text/email?
Or are they specifically just trying to dick me about because I'm perceived as 'new'.
Sorry again for the noob post it's just making me a little anxious.
xxx
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It's possible they have all been TW so your screening works!
How are you screening via email....?
Personally I find that too long and drawn out.
I verify via phone and hit them fast and polite with the questions,
and if they can't lie quickly enough it saves me a lot of time in long run.
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Thanks cheesypeas!
I'd been asking for certain information before we speak on the phone: booking time and date first, then name/address type details. My reasoning was that that there's not much point speaking with someone whose name and address I can't verify in advance, as I won't be meeting them regardless.
But then I spend a ridiculous amount of time semi-successfully dragging it out of them before we even get to the phone stage.
Now you say it that actually does seem really timewastery. Just wasn't 100% sure that was the case at the time, as I've had a ton of them today and nothing genuine to compare them with!
I'll ask over the phone in future :)
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You're welcome H :)
Fair point!...it's a waste to ever speak to them if you think they're TW.
So possibly give them a single chance to answer your standard
list of questions and if they don't comply the first time...ignore and block.
I wouldn't entertain them with email ping pong.
Some guys live on AW to email and burn your time.
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+ 1 for no ping pong.
I do incalls so it's a bit different.
IF I were doing only outcalls I think I would have a specific tab dedicated to outcalls. Providing enough information about how/hours/booking procedure. Maybe even a FAQ or two for idiots.
The way I deal with emails is fairly simple. I only answer emails that need being answered (a booking organised for distant future etc). If they ask for information that IS provided on my profile I refer them to my profile. If they want to book I simply reply that as it is stated on my profile bookings are BY PHONE. that's the way I pre-screen them and a guy unable to call me is a TW anyway.
It may seem a bit radical to you but at the moment you are "fresh meat" and as such you're attracting a huge amount of time wasters.
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PS: type screening into the search box, upper right corner, see and read what comes up.
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It may seem a bit radical to you but at the moment you are "fresh meat" and as such you're attracting a huge amount of time wasters.
Haha yeah I'm seriously beginning to realise this! The amount of men would-be condescendingly saying to me 'I've never been asked for my name/address/number before... is this your first time?' is enough to make my blood boil.
I also just straight-up do not believe this, like are they srsly trying to tell me that the 50+ escorts who've left them feedback just walked blindly into some random apartment?? Lol ridiculous.
At the moment I have a part-time day job so I don't have my phone number up on AW ? I just wouldn't be able to answer often enough. But I did put up a bold booking procedure at your suggestion, and a note that I screen people. It's now super easy to filter out people who haven't read it!
Thanks guys.
Fingers crossed I'm now starting to get a couple of slightly more normal/genuine-seeming requests too. Yay :)
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I'm also starting to see this pattern where the ones with loads of really good feedback from other escorts on AW seem to think that this should be 'enough' for me, and seem reluctant to give further screening details.
Weird.
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Well you can simply put up your number for the hours when you pick up the phone. Sure you still pay 1.2 for the full 24hrs but phone is simply the best way to screen.
I'm not sure I understand why clients with a lot of good feedback would be reluctant to go with your screening. Ok say some of that feedback is fake, still some is clearly genuine which means they are familiar with the screening procedure.
Errrrm maybe there's something not entirely well worded/requested in your screening?
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I ask for address proof only once a booking has been made. Ok you are prempting it but I can see how a sudden "name and address" request before you've even agreed any details could be seen as a bit 'in yer face' especially if they are only wanting to make an initial enquiry.
My profile explains outcall requirements so to most it doesn't come as a shock. I do however require a rough idea of location at the enquiry stage, and getting that to within a reasonable I do find difficult - which is a bit daft if someone is phoning specifically to ask me for a quote!
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i do outcalls just with guys who is members in aw with minimum 4 positive feedbacks, or prepaid taxi, or if send me some deposit via pay pall ..or if stay in hotel where i can call intro hi room and check where is really here
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I ask for address proof only once a booking has been made. Ok you are prempting it but I can see how a sudden "name and address" request before you've even agreed any details could be seen as a bit 'in yer face' especially if they are only wanting to make an initial enquiry.
My profile explains outcall requirements so to most it doesn't come as a shock. I do however require a rough idea of location at the enquiry stage, and getting that to within a reasonable I do find difficult - which is a bit daft if someone is phoning specifically to ask me for a quote!
I have it clearly explained that I need a few hours notice. I will not take any prebooking by text/email. If the guy calls me and we seem to agree on the day/hour I ask him for a post code so I can see if I can make it or not. I check and then call back with my booking requirements/screening details.
Some guys will make it very easy. Hotel name/room number/their name. Well they are the lucky ones of course.
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Errrrm maybe there's something not entirely well worded/requested in your screening?
Ohh noo I hadn't considered this.. maybe you're both right both right it's a bit preemptive?
I try to be on the super-friendly and reassuring side, along the lines of 'great so 1hr tomorrow at 4 at your place. All i need from you is x details about where I'm going, and a little chat on the phone. This can be closer to the time, if you like', but maybe I'm asking for these things a bit too far in advance.
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All I asked for was a full name, address, what they wanted during the booking and to reserve the slot on AW. ???
Did I ask too much for an outcall?
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Errrrm maybe there's something not entirely well worded/requested in your screening?
Ohh noo I hadn't considered this.. maybe you're both right both right it's a bit preemptive?
I try to be on the super-friendly and reassuring side, along the lines of 'great so 1hr tomorrow at 4 at your place. All i need from you is x details about where I'm going, and a little chat on the phone. This can be closer to the time, if you like', but maybe I'm asking for these things a bit too far in advance.
See, this is where your gut instinct comes. A genuine client will have no problem providing these, a TW will. BUT this is something you can only learn with time and experience.
One advice though. Don't bloody think of being super-friendly and reassuring. Go into warning section check my post about that guy high on coke, yeah that's me being bloody friendly and nice. Just don't.
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So glad I found this thread. I too am curious as to the best way to "screen" someone - and essentially what it means to screen?
I'm not a working escort right now but I'm trying to found out as much information before I dive in because knowledge is power.
I don't have the option to offer in-calls so it would be outcalls only.
I guess it would be more interesting to hear more from y'all who only offer outcalls (but feel free to chime in if your able to answer the below):
- what information do you obtain?
- is there a general rule of thumb to be able to decipher between a TW and a genuine client?
- if its being booked in a hotel,
1. would you expect the client to pay for the room?
1a. If so, would there be a discount on your rates as he is paying for the hotel + service)?
2. would you still try and get his home address or is his name, number and hotel details sufficient enough?
- what are the benefits of speaking on the phone (aside from it being a faster process)?
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So glad I found this thread. I too am curious as to the best way to "screen" someone - and essentially what it means to screen?
I'm not a working escort right now but I'm trying to found out as much information before I dive in because knowledge is power.
I don't have the option to offer in-calls so it would be outcalls only.
I guess it would be more interesting to hear more from y'all who only offer outcalls (but feel free to chime in if your able to answer the below):
- what information do you obtain?
- is there a general rule of thumb to be able to decipher between a TW and a genuine client?
- if its being booked in a hotel,
1. would you expect the client to pay for the room?
1a. If so, would there be a discount on your rates as he is paying for the hotel + service)?
2. would you still try and get his home address or is his name, number and hotel details sufficient enough?
- what are the benefits of speaking on the phone (aside from it being a faster process)?
If it's an outcall then the client pays for the room - up to you how you set your rates. If it's you providing the room then it would be known as an 'incall'.
If I'm visiting a hotel I need to see proof of the hotel reservation, room number, name booked in. I also take a deposit from new clients. Before I started using deposits I would phone through on the room landline, ask to speak to Mr Such and Such before I set off. This lowers the chances of TW. Now I take deposits from new clients I tend not to do this - if he's not there I turn around and keep the deposit, but that's not happened yet.
Home address I ask for proof of residency, if he cannot provide then higher deposit applies (same for hotel if he can't/won't provide).
Phone call makes it more likely he's brave enough to go through with it, means you can hear it's an adult male, can also give you clues about sobriety, whether there's a bunch of men in the background. Sure someone doing that can get around it, but I have many times turned down a booking because I can hear men/a party going on in the background, things I'd not always pick up from a text. It's not foolproof, at least one booking sounded fine on the phone, and fine when I entered his flat, it was 5 minutes later when he started repeating himself and he told me that he'd had at least one bottle of wine, then towards the end he became very distraught - but it's a first line of defence! I now stipulate on my website, and when I accept a booking that I won't see anyone who's drunk, drinking or hungover.