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PussyMaria

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Hi guys !

Some of you may remember my intial post from the buddy forum, I intend to get in touch with Penny's buddy escort system once I'm back up in London, and I'm also contemplating offering incalls from hotels as it would ideal (and make me feel more secure) .

My main question, cuz I haven't seen any threads about it anywhere, is offering various 'alt' fantasies, such as rape, incest, etc. These sorts of things turn me the fuck on, and thats what I'm  hoping I'm going to get out of escorting, but also be paid for it! Now I'm well aware I'm not going to get some hunky latino come along and 'force' me, I want more average clients who want that kind of fantasy.

....Am I completely out of my mind for catering to this kind of clientile? There's got to be men out there who want this kind of stuff, and I want to roleplay it. Of course I'm aware this blurs the line between actual rape and assult, and I'm more likely to attract psychos, but I don't feel I'm completely out of my mind...

As well as this, although I'm aware it is illegal in the UK, beastiality (probs just dogs) is another thing I'd love to experiment with, would I be crazy for discreetly offering this kind of service, in a kind of 'lets have a pre meet so I can meet your dog and check he's cool' thing?


In short - am I crazy full stop girls for wanting to offer these kind of services?! :\
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I don't think offering illegal services like beastiality is a good way to go, and definitely not to advertise this! I'm sure there is a reason why it's illegal (animals cannot consent?) do keep this in mind.

About roleplaying rape fantasies, I know that the men who are into this are more likely to commit rape one day. (or have done it) Of course this does not mean they are all rapists, but you can't tell beforehand and what if things get out of hand? What if they want to break your boundaries, I'm assuming you'll eg want them to wear protection. I'd advice you to at least have someone else in the flat who knows what is going on.

I can see why this is a fantasy of yours, but why concentrate on this client?le? I don't know if you can make a living out of just this, likely not, as I think lots of men might fantasise about this but few want to make it a reality, and even then roleplay doesn't work for everyone.

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....Am I completely out of my mind for catering to this kind of clientile? There's got to be men out there who want this kind of stuff, and I want to roleplay it. Of course I'm aware this blurs the line between actual rape and assult, and I'm more likely to attract psychos, but I don't feel I'm completely out of my mind...

I would say so, but none of us here are actually psychologists so I've no idea why you're asking us these questions when you've already demonstrated that you know the answers.

Do you want us all to gasp and shriek that you're naughty and bad and going to get punished? Or are you looking to argue with those of us who try our best to convince you that matters such as "safety" and "health" are actually very important?

We can't decide what you do with your body. We can advise you til we're blue in the face on how to live and work safely but I'm not sure you're really looking to hear the sensible argument.

Perhaps consider working in a parlour or somewhere where you'll have at least one other person in the building at all times. You should absolutely not be offering services like this alone.

I'm not sure we can really discuss illegal activities here, either. Hopefully the other mods will comment on that ASAP?
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Bestiality is indeed illegal, as is engaging in sexual activity with anyone or anything who/which is not able to give informed consent and this is what makes it inherently wrong in the minds of the majority of people. I'm afraid that as EJ said, if you are aiming to shock here at how 'edgy' you are, you won't get much joy.

The roleplay/fantasy services you offer are entirely up to you, but aiming at an extremely niche market is unlikely to earn you much of a living and will almost certainly alienate a large percentage of the usual 'vanilla' clients who are our bread and butter. Considering you clearly haven't done enough research to understand even the basics of the job, I suggest you go back to the main site and start reading - this time try it without filtering out the stuff you don't want to hear.

Being a successful prostitute is nothing to do with what 'turns you on', your clients are paying you to please them, not yourself. You sound very young and extremely na?ve, and the best I can suggest is that you save the fantasies for your personal life until you have at least the faintest idea about how to do what is a tough, responsible and above all, pretty mundane job. Prostitution is not just casual sex with a cash bonus and the sooner you dump that idea, the better.

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I'm quite gob smacked at this, you would be putting yourself in a very dangerous situation, its one thing doing this kind of role play with a boyfriend but a complete stranger!  What if the client gets out of control and you decide to go to the police, you wouldn't have a leg to stand on, the client would just say that you gave your consent.
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I would say so, but none of us here are actually psychologists so I've no idea why you're asking us these questions when you've already demonstrated that you know the answers.

Well actually Emily, I am  ;D

Like the other girls said Bestiality is illegal and is so for a reason, the animals could be traumatised by the incident.

Being a successful prostitute is nothing to do with what 'turns you on', your clients are paying you to please them, not yourself. You sound very young and extremely na?ve

I agree Amy-I think what the OP doesn't quite seem to get is that it is our job, profession. We provide a service for a set fee. Simple. Escorting is not a hobby with cash benefits, and you will not enjoy the job all of the time. I spend most of the time wondering what I should be having for dinner that evening!

I suggest you should become a little more informed about the job (maybe read the warnings for a reality check), and if you are still ok with the idea, become a mainstream escort and then when you are more experienced and have a 'spider sense' when it comes to clients you could then offer alternative role play.

Personally I think that kind of role play should be done with someone you completely trust (if at all) and I perceive it as extremly risky to do this with a client,

Of course I'm aware this blurs the line between actual rape and assult, and I'm more likely to attract psychos, but I don't feel I'm completely out of my mind...

The thing is you seem aware that you will get psychos, and by the way the chances are you will encounter more than your fair share of psychos if you do decide to offer rape and insist role play. If you want proof go to google scholar and look into high-risk sex offenders. At the end of the day it is your safety, and by the way, if you are thinking it just won't happen to you, that is just naive.



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Well actually Emily, I am  ;D

Massive apologies - I was a bit gobsmacked by the post but now I can think again, I recall that actually we have a whole bunch of psychology/counselling/etc experts here!

Even so, it's still not your job to try to answer every cry for attention on every online forum in the world 24/7 so I hope the OP understands how unsettling it is for us all to hear about the risks she apparently intends to take. Even more so, I hope she listens to the advice given and takes it all seriously.
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Ha, No worries Emily. I know, its unsettling for everyone, its such a delicate topic.

Even so, it's still not your job to try to answer every cry for attention on every online forum in the world 24/7 .

I know, and even if I tried there are toooo many!

which is why I have this to say to the OP.

In short - am I crazy full stop girls for wanting to offer these kind of services?! :\

If you are literally asking if you are crazy, then you should be asking a qualified professional in a safe and confidential environment.


 I hope she listens to the advice given and takes it all seriously.

AMEN. To that.

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I have pets and they are the most precious things to me. They obviously have no language or thoughts but they feel emotion as much as we do and for some stranger to come along and start doing sexual things to it would absolutely traumtise it, maybe cause it pain and make it feel worried and stressed. They wouldn't be able to understand at all what is going on and I think it's awful that you would want to put a poor defensless creature through this.
If I'm ever washing my dog and have to clean his penis he whimpers and doesn't like it. And the same with my cat, if I've ever gave his bum a quick wash after he's been in his tray he flips out and attacks me.
They clearly don't like to be touched in these places.

I'm sorry, I'm normally a very unjudgemental person and I accept people no matter what their beliefs, fantasies etc are but I think this is so incredibly wrong that if I knew you personally i would be reporting you to the police right this second.

Please read the warning posts and find the one that i posted a few months ago about a nutter attacking me. What would you do if you were acting out a rape scenario and someone like this man was there alone with you? They could have a knife or anything!!!!

Acting out a scenario like that could be ok if you do it with a trusted regular and you have someone else in your flat or sitting outside for you.

I've been doing this for years now and I still wouldn't trust a client enough to act something like this out with. They will probably get over excited and push the boundaries. I personally feel that these things should be done with someone you love and trust and have been with for a while.

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Maria.


I just woke up, so forgive me, but reading that I think you are looking for some titillation from us, which makes me think you are either not an escort or a male.


Meet the dog first? Go and see a bloody shrink.

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Re: Newbie! Qu.s of rape fantasies, beastiality and other 'alt' services...
« Reply #10 on: 15 August 2010, 01:05:08 pm »
Maria.


I just woke up, so forgive me, but reading that I think you are looking for some titillation from us, which makes me think you are either not an escort or a male.


Meet the dog first? Go and see a bloody shrink.

I agree, well said.  :)

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Re: Newbie! Qu.s of rape fantasies, beastiality and other 'alt' services...
« Reply #11 on: 15 August 2010, 01:59:49 pm »
Hi girls!

Well what a variety of responses! First things first, I am NOT looking to shock you or get some tittilation out of you. I am seriously considering this! I apologise if I seem niave and trying to 'get a rise' out of you, I'm really not, I just know that what I'm considering has a lot of dangerous risks behind it and I don't want to make a stupid mistake.

I'm also sorry if I offended any of you, again this is not my intentions.

So to answer some of your questions, this will also NOT be my main income, so I understand I may be alienating the 'bread and butter' clients. I agree also, if things got out of hand it would be impossible to confirm it, although I had thought of using a safe word, I wouldn't have a leg to stand on with the law. So yup, my hands are up and I'm saying I'm wrong, I should start with vanilla clientile. That also confirms that illegal activities are also out of the question.

Honestly, I have read the main site. I know its a risky and sometimes mudane job. I know I will have to deal with unsavoury clients, and get regular STD checks.

Again I'm really sorry if this topic has upset or offended any of you, but if you working girls think its a bad idea to go with such scenarios, then I'm glad I asked :)

Sorry! I'll go hide away somewhere now

Maria x
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Re: Newbie! Qu.s of rape fantasies, beastiality and other 'alt' services...
« Reply #12 on: 15 August 2010, 02:06:42 pm »
Maria,

If you are an escort, or escort to be, please don't go hide, it is much better to be here asking than out there practising. Have you heard of a porn star named Linda Lovelace? She did a lot of the things you describe on film. She died a few years ago, but I remember reading an article with her and she stated quite clearly that she was still  severely traumatised by what she had done.

You seem quite young. It would be a positive disaster for you to start experimenting with things that could seriously harm you both mentally and physically.

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Re: Newbie! Qu.s of rape fantasies, beastiality and other 'alt' services...
« Reply #13 on: 15 August 2010, 03:18:42 pm »
My first thought this morning on reading this is that *Maria* is not female.

She comes across as a male in her writing and the way she expresses herself.

The wording and phraseology just reminds me so much of the outporings you sometimes get on grunternet.

Designed for maximum impact and as much attention as possible.

I haven't changed my mind yet.

Perhaps we could be privvy to *her* website?

 She doesn't seem the shy type after all..

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Re: Newbie! Qu.s of rape fantasies, beastiality and other 'alt' services...
« Reply #14 on: 15 August 2010, 03:30:22 pm »
If 'she' is genuine Kimba, and a newbie, she may not have a website yet. I am also doubtful, but advice forums have to be about advice first I guess.