Maria, you do not have prove yourself to anybody - may I remind members that it is up to each individual whether they decide to post anonymously and there are many ladies who do exactly that without being expected to vouch for themselves. The trolls do come and go, but generally get bored long before they get to cause trouble, since it isn't a particularly incendiary atmosphere on the forum and this is as it should be .

For what it's worth I don't think the OP's syntax or vocabulary come across as male, more as someone perhaps quite young for their age and trying to find an 'in' to a group of people who she perceives in a particular way; we really ought to be used to it by now. And as Lucy said, if advice is sought on here, it will be given, this is what the site is for.

We won't judge, Maria but we will never condone or encourage illegal activity of any kind, and the advice anyone receives will generally be of the type that promotes a responsible and safe way of working, which in the case is entirely at odds with the thread starter, but we also ought to remember that you haven't actually started working yet (and looking at your profile, I shudder to think of some of the emails you'll have got).

The overriding feeling I get from your posts (and you are not the only one we have here at the moment) is that you are still associating your personal life and the things you enjoy/want to  do with the job, and it is just not appropriate for you to do so. This doesn't mean you should be providing services you don't enjoy or pretending to be something you're not, but this is a way to earn money, not a fun/exciting way to get your kicks, and if you continue to think it is, you are playing a very dangerous game. Adultwork in particular is renowned for making it easy for the unscrupulous to target newbies, and as has already been said, this work needs to be approached with the same sort of professional attitude that providing any other personal service would - advertising yourself to basically be used and abused by all comers for a poxy ?70 an hour is more than likely going to teach you that this isn't anywhere near as much fun as you thought it might be. And what are you planning to do if you decide ten minutes in that it maybe isn't such a good idea?

I have known people in all parts of the industry and particularly BDSM providers who include among their services medical fetishes, breath play, knife and needle play, hot wax, serious CBT and all the rest of it in addition to every type of role play imaginable. These people have worked, studied and gained experience under others for years and the boundaries and rules agreed and abided by for each encounter are the strictest you are likely to find anywhere outside a US airport security department. Seriously, go to clubs or find a fuck buddy you trust for your fantasy stuff - apart from anything else, expecting clients to cater to your fantasies is not really how it works and why should it? THEY are paying YOU.

I can't really comment on the profile apart from that your prices are far too low, and since you do not offer OWO or CIM I think you may have misunderstood 'Bukkake'.

I have known people in all parts of the industry and particularly BDSM providers who include among their services medical fetishes, breath play, knife and needle play, hot wax, serious CBT and all the rest of it in addition to every type of role play imaginable. These people have worked, studied and gained experience under others for years and the boundaries and rules agreed and abided by for each encounter are the strictest you are likely to find anywhere outside a US airport security department. Seriously, go to clubs or find a fuck buddy you trust for your fantasy stuff - apart from anything else, expecting clients to cater to your fantasies is not really how it works and why should it? THEY are paying YOU.

Taking this a little further, Maria - do you know anyone in your real life who is involved with kink and fetish scenes? As far as I can tell, the vast majority of people who are into this type of sexuality take safety extremely seriously and I think perhaps you could learn a little from them about how to indulge in your preferred fantasies without getting (excuse my frankness) assaulted, mutilated or murdered. You are far from alone in your sexuality and I hope you don't feel alienated by our responses - Amy has explained why we've reacted as we have; everyone here on this forum dies a bit inside when we hear yet another story of someone rushing into sex work with NO thought to their own safety, or even worse, the story of someone who already did it last week and now needs help with dealing with the horrible consequences that can occur. But we're all here to help anyone who might be about to get themselves into a difficult situation and so I'm really glad to see you've stuck around and listened to us. Sorry if that sounds patronising! I'm just honestly glad.

I believe there are safe online resources that you can access if you wish to get involved in certain types of kink and whatnot - forgive me, I am completely tediously vanilla and don't even know how to describe the broader reaches of human sexuality properly - although like anywhere online where you confess to being female and enjoying sex, you're bound to have a bunch of weirdos contact you that you should *not* arrange to meet up with in real life. But if you can safely make friends with people with similar interests (see: meeting in public spaces just to talk, etc) you might well be able to find people that you can trust to then explore more 'various' stuff with.

I don't know. I've suddenly realised that 'safe extreme sex' is rather an oxymoron. And I don't know how you'd reconcile a need for danger and power-play during sex with the need to not have your boundaries pushed (unless you wanted to be the one spanking and whipping and anally-penetrating - and even then, I believe psychological issues can arise). I suppose I should read up on it, really. This Wiki article is maybe a good start: Sane risk in kink. From my brief glimpse, there's a lot of stuff out there - communities, research, information-sharing, etc.

Anyway, sorry, you probably know all that already. As far as sex work is concerned, I am a firm believer that if you want to be safe and successful in this industry, you need to disconnect work from your personal sexual (or social or emotional) desires. Otherwise I'd be forming monogamous long-term relationships (that's my kinda kink ) with, like, every single one of my clients. And my life would rapidly turn into a complete horrible mess. See how it goes?

I have to admit that I was offended by some of Maria's comments- especially the rape role play stuff. I am aware that this is a particular kink that some people like, but I agree with Sammy, it is something that shouldn't be lightly spoken of on this forum because of some of the possible experiences that members could have had.

However Maria does seem to genuinely be asking for advice, and that should never be discouraged, but next time maybe she could have a little more sensitivity and thoughtfulness into how she words her posts and who will be reading her posts.

Equally Sammy, comparing bestiality to child abuse could also be deemed offensive, so I guess my point is that everyone needs to tread carefully when discussing this topic.

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I'm really sorry for your distress Sammy, believe it or not I do love animals, and without getting into the moral and ethical issues of sex with animals I personally wouldn't want to do anything with an animal that was showing signs of distress about the situation. Of course there are people that argue animals can't give consent, I appreciate these views and I don't want to spark a debate about whether its right or wrong because people will always have different opinions.

I also apologise for those who may have suffered rape or sexual assult in the past and been affected by my words too, I really didn't intend to cause any distress and I agree I should have considered my wording more carefully. So I shall be more careful in future, sorry everyone!

And of course I don't condone real abuse at all, and I know there's a difference between fantasy (where I can control everything) and reality where the victim has no control and experiences great trauma. I can see now this is the main reason why I need to make sure personal fantasy and my working life are kept seperate.

Maria xx

Thanks Lucy, I've updated my profile and hopefully it'll attract more of the right clientile now! Any more advice on how to improve it would be really appreciated.

Tho I won't be doing  GFE at all, I've worded it so that (hopefully) it seems I offer vanilla, but also more dirtier/humilation-esque scenes at my discretion. So I can provide my submissive side to my work life, but also keep it separate from my personal life.

I'm hoping if I settle into the industry well, with experience I can experiment with offering role play scenes, its a BAD idea to offer it when I have little experience with role playing!


Thanks again for being so understanding guys, I hope you'll forgive me for us getting off on the wrong foot slightly. :\

Sorry for doubting your genuinity Maria  

Consider me firmly embarrassed by my oh-so-perceptiveness!

And yes, you DID come on here for advice after all and not to be judged and it looks like you're well on the way to sorting things out already x

If it helps, I am THE most suspicious/ paranoid/ cynical/mistrusting  Escort..It's a wonder I ever accept any bookings at all!  

Maria, Cherrylips is right - no-one is arguing anything, it is categorically not possible for anyone to prove an animal is capable of giving  meaningful, informed consent (and this argument has also been recently used in an article I remember about whether wildlife documentaries were an invasion of animals' privacy, amongst other things) therefore these are not 'views' and there is no argument. However, everyone is taking it for granted that you believe (as I would think most people do) that sex without consent is wrong, and if this is not the case then that is entirely your business. There is also a school of thought (mainly among the people who have married their horses, and so forth) that if it is wrong to have sex with animals, why should it be OK to kill and eat them, but I don't do philosophical debate after midnight unless I'm in the pub, and I think with Ian's post that this particular area of your query has now been more than adequately discussed.

Back on the profile, one other thing I spotted (and I started bookings this morning at ten am, so I'm flagging a bit) is that it is not clear whether you understand the difference between incalls and outcalls - you have said that you will do incalls 'to' places which is misleading when incalls mean that the client visits you in a venue you have provided. If you mean you will be booking a hotel, say, to do incalls from, then that's what the wording should indicate.

When you say you have no intention of offering GFE ever-ever-ever, out of interest do you just mean that you won't do kissing, or that you aren't going to be friendly/welcoming, or what? It isn't a criticism - more that it's a vague term at the best of times and I'm interested in what you perceive this to mean?