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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: zara34 on 10 March 2012, 01:49:17 am
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Hi, I am new to escorting. I have been considering it for some time. I have been coming on and off on this site to get a feel for the issues surrounding escorting. I have decided to make a start via the agency route and have been considering ringing up [name redacted]. Needless to say I am extremely nervous. Want to keep this hidden from friends and family. It may sound silly but I worry about things like if I register with the tax man, use my credit card etc then I might get found out. I am married. Please don't judge me as only I know my reasons for this decision. Anyways, I will appreciate any advice regarding the agency, issues around anonymity etc. xx
Agency name removed. Apologies, but it's important to avoid even the mildest of promotion of agencies here since so many are dodgy-beyond-belief. Once you have 5+ posts on this forum, though, you can use the PM system to discuss whichever details you want. :)
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Hi hunni
I really don't think anyone here will judge you! You (like everyone else) have your own reasons for entering this industry and this forum seems to be for support, not judgement.
I'm in a similar area to you and looked up the agency you mentioned. I have a strange feeling (call it women's intuition lol) that the woman who runs it is going to be closely associated with the woman who runs the agency I almost started work for. Best advice is go in with your eyes open - and know exactly what you will and won't accept before you go for interview. If you want to send me a private message, please feel free.
Good luck,
Mimi xx
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Mimi u hv been so kind with ur advice. Really apreciate it mate.
Hey guys anyone else hav any advice re [name removed]? Really want to make sure that I hv a reasonably good experience wen i start. Are there any other recomendations in manchester? Please pm me. I would b ever do grateful.
Cant really talk to anyone else in my life about this.
Also being of infian origin, family is very conservative.
Also havent really seen many indian escorts advertised on the main stream websites. Not sure how i will be received in the industry. Are there any indian origin escorts here who could perhaps share theor experiences wid me?
Agency name removed, as per your first post in this thread. Please do not name any specific agencies publicly on the forum. Give the location they operate in and then request that forum members who have experience working in that location PM you, so that you can ask them privately about the specific agency. Thank you.
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There are quite a few Indian escorts, and seem to do quite well. As always, what one man hates another will love, thankfully!
Good luck finding an agency.
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Thnanx for that Cat. Thats reassuring. :)
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Zara, I am up in Scotland, and have to admit the number of Indian escorts up here is beyond counting, so do not think that you are a lone worker. Really, like said above, colour, religion etc does not matter here, what does matter than we are here for each other and to support one another in whichever way we have experience in.
Hope you find a suitable agency. In the meantime, have a look through Adultwork and try and set yourself up as an indi, then you will be in control of your own monies and won't have to do any work you find you don't feel you dont want to.
Good Luck. xx
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I would say defiantely work independently you have the control then and the only person involved is you and you only which means much more discretion. I have seen many sites for Indian Origin women around on AW and private web sites also. Everyone likes something different thank goodness and to me there is no streotype as it is so diverse. Imagine if there was we would all become one and the same how boring would that be?
Good luck
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Wow,, u guys r so generous wid ur time n advice.
The thng is, I dnt thnk I m independent enuf in myself to go independent as yet. But I can c thats the way to go in da future. I will hav to start to put thngs in place. So I thought start off wid an agency.
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I never liked the idea of putting someone else in charge of my safety,especially when that persons job is to make money off me. I would much rather rely on myself. You would need to be carefull in choosing and agency and make sure they have a decent reputation.
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Yes, I can see your point. I just don't hav da know how rite now to go on my own. I need to learn da ropes in soooomany ways. If anyone has any tecomendations for an agency in manchester,, it will b much appreciated. Pm me plzz xx
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Hmmmm,, until last nite I had never even heard of AW loll. Well thnx to the advice here so far, I hav just registered on AW. Profiles a bit sketchy for now but its there. Will take me some time to figure the site outI thnk loll. I need to have a look now to see watsout there in terms of pay as u go fones etc. Also, I thnk I will need a new bank account. I thnk I heard of online banks. Will have to look into all of that.
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Zara, I'll say it before anyone else does. Please don't use text talk on here, it is frowned upon. Don't want to have to come and give you a spanking before you get started. ;)
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Zara, I'll say it before anyone else does. Please don't use text talk on here, it is frowned upon. Don't want to have to come and give you a spanking before you get started. ;)
To be honest, it's not that it's not allowed - it's more that text talk comes across as very immature, so it's always an additional worry thinking about some young'un walking into one of this industry's many evil traps.
Also, I thnk I will need a new bank account. I thnk I heard of online banks. Will have to look into all of that.
This concerns me somewhat, too! :) As far as I know, "online banks" are just secure websites run by all the normal high-street banks so that their account holders can log in online and do their banking via the web, as opposed to dicking around in a queue in their local branch for 500 hours. I don't think there are any actual "online banks", and if anyone tells you they have an "online bank", you should probably make sure you never, ever give them any of your money to "look after". If you need a bank account, go into a normal bank branch and open one there.
To learn more about paying tax (and escorting in general), read the articles on the main site here: http://www.saafe.info/
Then you can make use of this forum's search (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?action=search) box to find out more about specific topics, such as "scam agency", "scam", "rip off", "timewaster", "bad client", "screening", "incalls", "outcalls", etc etc etc.
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I shall considered myself told :P
Noo seriously, thankyou ever so much for even taking the time and reading wot I have to say and guving me advice. Its much appreciated :)
And Lady Lust, you can give me s spanking any time ;) loll (am I allowed to say loll ?!?, only joking :) )
Xxx
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Still doing my reading around on this forum. Its so useful. Some of you hav pm me and given me valuable advice that only a WG can offer. But feel ao isolated. I know I want to do this, I need to do this, for so many reasons. Wish I had someone in life I could share my decision with, without the fear if being judged.
Then sometimes I feel, I havent got it in me. I am not clever enough, sharp enough to pull sone thing like this off. But at other times I think, this would be perfect for me.
Sighhh !!!
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OMG,, you guys, I have just been in the process of creating my profile on AW in the last couple of days. To my surprise, I have had emails from three prospective clients. One of them has corresponded further and lefthis mobile number and expressed an interest in meeting up. I havwnt even posted any pics yet. I havent even got myself a PAYG mobile fone yet lolll.
I have kind of started a convo with him, but, tbh, I am not sure where I am going to go with this loll
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AW sends out an email whenever a new profile is created. As you haven't got any pics up, I would safely assume that the people who have contacted you already are timewasters and/or bargain hunters looking to take advantage of a naive newbie. I would ignore them until your pics are up.
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AW sends out an email whenever a new profile is created. As you haven't got any pics up, I would safely assume that the people who have contacted you already are timewasters and/or bargain hunters looking to take advantage of a naive newbie. I would ignore them until your pics are up.
What she said!
There are lots of guys who are into New Girls - they're the ones who sign up for newbie escort notifications and send 'em emails before they've even put pictures on their profiles, as you'll have noticed, Zara - and although some of them might be perfectly fine, a much higher percentage of them will be intending to mess you about (getting loads of free sex chat because newbie escorts usually don't know not to engage in lengthy conversations with random strangers in the hope of eventually getting paid for a booking) and some will have even worse things planned, like boundary-pushing (getting you to meet them in their car and/or in a lay-by or other unsafe place, pushing you into doing services that you're not sure you want to do, etc etc etc).
I think a lot of the biggest Newbie Hunter guys actually focus on newbies solely because experienced escorts suss out their wanky behaviour too quickly. So please bear that in mind any time a client contacts you for your first 3 months or so of working. You cannot be too cautious. Consider every single one a timewaster (or worse) until proven otherwise.
Search (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?action=search) this forum for "screening" for more information on what to watch out for - and what to avoid - in potential clients. Lengthy conversations about the booking are probably Timewaster Sign #1. No genuine client needs to do more than pick a day, time and duration for his booking. "Do you really enjoy your work?" and all that are totally nonsense questions which should be ignored. Similarly, asking for discounts and/or extra services at any point indicate that the client has no respect for you and should be ignored. Talking to you like, "hiya babe r u lukin 4 sum fun i can't wait 2 lick ur pussy" means he's just an idiot kid who should be ignored.
Someone who politely and respectfully inquires about your availability on a certain day at a certain time is much more likely to be genuine, but never consider a client truly genuine until he's handed over that cash. Never rely on potential income. You can have a whole day/week of bookings lined up and every single one of them can turn out to be timewasters - it's not unheard of! Also, be REALLY careful about guys offering you lots of money and/or wanting to book you for large amounts of time. It's a common scam technique to get you to give them services for which they will pay you "lots", "later" - i.e. they will probably not pay you anything, ever. Read the whole of this thread (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=1615.0) to see a particularly horrific example of this sort of scammer.
Set strict booking and confirmation procedures and stick to them with all potential clients. (Search "booking procedure" or "confirmation procedure".) This will stop you from getting ready for 99% of those clients who do not actually plan on turning up. It will also enable you to suss out a client's attitude before you're alone in a room with him - is he happy to go along with your instructions, or does he call you a stupid c*** for expecting him to treat you with respect? If the latter, please do feel free to block him (after making careful note of all of his contact details) and never speak to him ever again.
Reading and following the advice you're given here on this forum will cut your chances of having an unpleasant experience in the sex industry by 50% at least. The sex workers here are experienced and sensible and if we say, "Guys who want to talk about your appearance and your services and whatever for ages are timewasters", it's because we've personally all had our time wasted when we were new by guys doing that. Not because we're trying to make life boring for you, honest. :) We just want to save others from making the same mistakes.
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There are a whole host of scammer, and advantage takers out there who target newbies. Luckily there are also some very nice guys out there too.
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Don't know wat I wud do without all of ur advice. I will bear all of wat u hv said in mind. I need to stay focused and prepare myself before I laynch myself into this. I am no where near as ready as I know I need to be. Starting to accumulate the things I need. Looking into the prepaid credit card and pay as you go. Hv old fone sets at home so I think I just need to get a sim.
I had one question and this will definitely show my ignorance, but, how do I get the different sized confoms from the GUM clinic? Di I just walk in there and ask at the reception? Feel really silly even asking this quetion. I hav only ever bought my own condoms. And also will they be able to give me any latex free ones too, just in case?
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Hi Just another quick question please. i have been readinh around on this forum and it seems like the general consensus is that to ask for client's pic is inadvisable. May I ask why that is? I mean i that something unheard of? Does abyone on this forum asks for pics beforw hand?
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Hi Just another quick question please. i have been readinh around on this forum and it seems like the general consensus is that to ask for client's pic is inadvisable. May I ask why that is? I mean i that something unheard of? Does abyone on this forum asks for pics beforw hand?
Why would you need to see their picture? They're choosing US, they're paying US, as long as they're clean and respectful (and don't push your boundaries) then their looks are irrelavent.
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It is because looks don't matter a jot when we decide to accept a booking from someone. What does matter is all that all the security criteria are followed and your potential Client abides by this procedure at all times and doesn't veer off into any of the timewaster or general weirdo behaviour as outlined by Emily and others above.
I'm sure you knew this and the photo idea is for your own security incase anything went wrong?
There will be very few guys who will be happy for an Escort to have their face pic in the posession. What if you were a nutter and tried to blackmail him? I have heard some awful stuff about desperate Prossies from my own clients. :o
The only guys I have ever come across who have willingly volunteered a pic is because they believe you will be blown away by their sheer looks ( and girth :P ) that you will agree to be his Fuck Buddy for no charge ::)
Believe me, you will definately be sent pics more times than you can shake a stick, but these will only make you want to block them.
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Sorry, I forgot to add; To rely on a photo as some kind of safety insurance would be folly at best.
The photo could be 10, 20 years old and, most likely not even themselves ( just someone who fits the general description ).
When they turn up at your door with the money you are not going to be stood there verifying the ID before you let him in are you? ;D
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all i will say is dont ever get swayed simply by the money if it sounds to good to be true then it probably is especially as you are a newbie to this
i wouldnt put on your profile that you new - as such maybe word it a bit differently ( no idea what) but putting new brings out all the timewaster assholes would be pimps and dicks that will try to take advantage of you as you are new
im not trying to put you off just trying to put you in the right frame of mind
thing to watch out for would be
particualry long detailed emails specifically requesting various thing often the more detailed the more of a fantasy the more of a timewaster ( not always but often. its up to you to judge
photos being sent to you
asking for things you dont do /dont offer for more money ( this is often boundry pushers)
previously went out with an escort so would like to get together and meet you for drinks ect ect
wants to link up with you because you could do adult content and sell it (read free fuck free sex)
ones that want to meet in the bar first before going up to the room ( ok they could be genuine clients and i know that some clients do actually like to do this - but if you dont know them before the booking then they could be sat there with a bunch of mates sniggering at the escort they booked)
i could go on and on but i wont, the main thing is to use your gut instinct if it dont feel right then it probably isnt right
a genuine client ( imo) would be brief polite and to the point - those that waffel on about this that and the sunshine and trying to prolong the converstation are often timewasters - not always but often
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To all my lovely ladies above, thanku as usual and I hv taken note of everything u have said. I had this idea in my head that somehow if they send me pics that wud mean they r genuine, buf u r right. I m a bit embarrassed to tell u mow that I have asked one of my very first prospective clients through AW for not one, not two, but three pics loll. I m sure now that I wont hear from them agsin lol. But u guys did say that in the absence of my isn pics on my profile yet, the guys qho hzv contacted me already are probably tw, wierdos.
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Zara, I'll say it before anyone else does. Please don't use text talk on here, it is frowned upon. Don't want to have to come and give you a spanking before you get started. ;)
To be honest, it's not that it's not allowed - it's more that text talk comes across as very immature, so it's always an additional worry thinking about some young'un walking into one of this industry's many evil traps.
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Zara, I'll say it before anyone else does. Please don't use text talk on here, it is frowned upon. Don't want to have to come and give you a spanking before you get started. ;)
To be honest, it's not that it's not allowed - it's more that text talk comes across as very immature, so it's always an additional worry thinking about some young'un walking into one of this industry's many evil traps.
It's not even txtspk, it's really bad typing. A bit like when I get a drunk guy on cam, and they are having trouble controlling their fingers, and think I am their 'mate'.
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I just find it so so difficult to try and translate and to work out what typing errors are :FF If someone has a problem I can help with then I want to help but if I can't understand what they are trying to say it is impossible.
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To all my lovely ladies above, thanku as usual and I hv taken note of everything u have said. I had this idea in my head that somehow if they send me pics that wud mean they r genuine, buf u r right. I m a bit embarrassed to tell u mow that I have asked one of my very first prospective clients through AW for not one, not two, but three pics loll. I m sure now that I wont hear from them agsin lol. But u guys did say that in the absence of my isn pics on my profile yet, the guys qho hzv contacted me already are probably tw, wierdos.
I have to agree I'm afraid...there was a time when "txtspk" didn't exist and we could understand one another properly. As EJ said, use of it can sound immature and that worries me because although I'm a newbie, I'm certainly mature and have my head fully screwed on - and would hope the same for any other person in the same position. The thought of a young, naive lady out there on her own, without these "life skills", frankly scares the crap out of me xxxx
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Zara, they're right - whilst we really don't want the English police on here picking everybody apart (and it's time to get back on topic now, please) it's very important to communicate effectively and by not making any effort to write your posts properly you are making it far more difficult for the members here to read them. The danger of this is that they'll give up and won't bother any more.
There is a spellchecker available when you are writing your posts, but the main problem here is that I think you're rushing - nothing is so pressing that you need to substitute single letters for words or leave out all the vowels, and you'll get many more helpful responses if the members here can figure out whatever it is you're asking about.
That said, good/crap written English is no indicator of intelligence (or lack of), life skills or anything else other than crap written English. The problem is that people will assume it is (which when applied to things like advertising is definitely not what you want).
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Hi Amy, you are right. It was me rushing. Also I often use my ifone which I am only just about getting used to loll. However it does seem a little bit like the English Police I have to say. If people find it difficult to understand then please accept my apologies, I will keep this in mind.
Having said this I am a little disappointed that not a single message since my last post is actusl advice regarding the questions I had asked. When I logged in I was happy to see there were some responses and I do find the advice so useful, but it seems like everyone just got so caughtup in the style of writing (and I do take all your points on board).
All I would say is that you must allow some flexibility guys as sometimes people are pushed for time and I really dont see how on a forum like yhis if I was to replace a you with a 'u', or a why with a 'y', then why should it be such an issue?
Trust me, if I was writing to a client, or an advert, or in a more professional setting, I would not be using text speak or abbreviations. But I understood this to be a more informal forum.
Anyways, I do take your points on board, and will continue to watch it. I want all oc your advice to be invaluable and really appreciate it. However, I also want to be able to express myself freely and dont want to be on my guard all the time xx
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Well prior to your previous post Zara a lot of ladies took time out to give you a lot of really helpful advice.
As to expressing yourself freely its perfectly possible to do this in the style of your last post. I use my phone fairly often when posting and the only thing that creeps into my posts then are extra full stops ;D
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Yes they did Mellow and I have said this many times before and will say it again, all of the advice in this forum had been invaluable. I always feel so grateful when ladies take so much time out to write to me. To be honest, I can see that even with this issue, their primary concern is my potential safety.
Anyways , I hope to move on past this xx
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Hey Zara
Just a quickie (don't want to get told off!) to say I'm sorry if I came across as unsupportive - it really was just to look out for you. Hope all is going ok x
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Loll not at all, I took it as well intentioned, and I am learning that every industry/profession hasbits own standards and that is fine xx
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Great stuff. So how's it going on AW? Any further contact with the guy in question? x
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Well, he usually tends to send me a message after 9 pm. I am still in conversation with him I suppose. I just dont understand how he does not have a landline? I suppose it is possible. We shall see.
I have however recieved a number of other requests since putting up a couple of ameaturish pics on AW. I am in the process of negotiating, but, and please dont laugh,,, I have this bloomin coldsore that has appeared out of no where, how can I take a booking looking like this ? Seriously ! I hope its gobe by next sunday because I am hoping to arrange it for then. Its a shame because he sounded genuine and was interested in meeting up tomorrow but I do not feel confident now in view of this ginormous cold sore lolll.
Anyways, how about you? How have you been ?
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Cold sores !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Another thing that blights the life of an escort at times. :(
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Oh no darling poor you!
I'm not a coldsore sufferer (touch wood) so can't really advise - except for the obvious really - i.e. no kissing, owo etc. My advice would be to get some zovirax on it quicksmart! And make sure you're looking after yourself, i.e. getting enough sleep and vitamins/minerals as they can occur when you fee run down or stressed.
As for me, I'm fine thank you! Got my first booking later on today and quite excited! As long as I don't do something stupid like trip over in the hotel reception, I'm sure it'll be fine!
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Wow, I am so excited for you. I hope it goes well. All the best xx
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Thank you lovey! I shall let you know! Take good care x
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I had this idea in my head that somehow if they send me pics that wud mean they r genuine
What's to stop a guy emailing you a pic of their mate/brother/boss and passing it off as themselves?
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Yes you are right. It was a stupid idea :- :-[
Loll xx
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Hi Zara, how's things going? Feel free to PM me if you want x
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Mimiiiii, I was thinking about you earlier today you know. I was thinking hope shes ok cause last time we spoke you were going for your first client booking. Everything go ok for you I hope. I am ok and learning all about time wasters at the moment loll. Xx
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Zara, I am up in Scotland, and have to admit the number of Indian escorts up here is beyond counting, so do not think that you are a lone worker. Really, like said above, colour, religion etc does not matter here, what does matter than we are here for each other and to support one another in whichever way we have experience in.
Hope you find a suitable agency. In the meantime, have a look through Adultwork and try and set yourself up as an indi, then you will be in control of your own monies and won't have to do any work you find you don't feel you dont want to.
Good Luck. xx
hiya i wanted some information please. am consdering joining a agency by the name of midland belles. has anyone heard of this? and do all clients require physical contact?or are there clients who simply require company? thankyou