I think regardless of what kind of ?class? you put yourself in, everyone needs to start somewhere and from humble beginnings you can rise to be something great. If you are not getting any bookings at the price you are at, lower them. Especially if you are completely new as your time will come when you can start to charge the prices you want but you need to work for it a little and sacrifice. I think that?s what will help you succeed if you plan on doing this long term.

I started out at ?90 for outcalls. I used to have a morning, afternoon and evening outcall 4 days a week throughout London without fail (for that prices, services and how far I traveled yes!!).

I?m now ?150hr for my incalls, I have enough now finally after this literal cold spell to carry on and this is after just 6 months. I worked and saved, invested into my business and went through the highs and lows of escorting and Im not finished yet. I?m now where I want to be for now and I am content with my prices and I am still busy because I?ve managed to show myself as a genuine lady who works hard and just wants to do well.

I try and just focus on what I am doing rather than worry too much about my competition. I think there is a great support network for ladies including here and on other social networking platforms and it?s personally given me more confidence to push myself further in my career. Take the advice that you feel works for you but for the sake of earning some money, giving you more confidence and experience I think the best advice is to lower a little so that you can at least get your foot in the door first xx

Is Captain 69 still going? That was another one where these types used to hang out.

Haha....yes! I'm a member. Although is kinda dead now. I hear everyone saying they need to inject some life into it to make it fun again.

I only offer outcalls to hotels too, I'm based in South Yorkshire and offer an hour at ?150. Only offering outcalls means I'm less likely to get bookings and I usually get 1 per week, I am hoping this will increase more as I have been made redundant in my normal, civvy job this week and I am now available all day, every day.  I do camming on the side a few days a week and I can usually earn ?200 plus per week..

I'd your able too, stay at a hotel/apartment on days your free and take incalls from there, advertise the days you will be staying there a week or two beforehand, try and get some definite bookings in advance ... This may help.   Xx

Well yes, I'd say you're comparing apples and oranges and we do have a separate thread somewhere which covers this 'sugar' stuff in the Blather section. It's in that section because it's completely different from straightforward upfront prostitution which is what the rest of us here are talking about, and possibly why we might appear tonbe at cross purposes.

That said, don't believe everything your competition friends tell you - it's not that likely that anybody with that sort of ego is going to shout it from the rooftops if they're not actually that busy. Plus as you're finding out, having nobody prepared to pay you the rates you think you should get doesn't do much for your self worth once you've finished enjoying the look of the big price tag on your ads.

That aside, if you don't want to set boundaries in terms of timed bookings (and what about services?) and so on I think you're setting yourself up for an absolute nightmare and unless you're prepared to drop your expectations a bit and be realistic about your business you might be better sticking with what you know.

Also don't forget you can always start differently and rebrand yourself once you've got established and found your feet a bit! There are people here whi have sone just that, and you never knwo, you might even not mind slumming it amongst we plebs .

Without wanting to bang on about the Sugarbaby side of it, from reading the OPs thoughts on that, if I?m completely honest it sounds like you are stuck in the Sugarbaby mentality, NOT a criticism but an observation.

As an escort you just cannot afford to do this, you have have a realistic rate, your own strict boundaries, including keeping to the booked time, and what services you provide, otherwise as Amy said you could well be looking at some nightmarish scenarios.

I understand you don?t want to go below a certain rate and want to attract a certain clientele, but you CANNOT ignore market forces, you may not think you are worth less than X amount but as you have found it can be pretty lonely out there sticking to your guns. 

I appreciate you have lowered your rates but most of us would agree they are still on the high side. There are plenty of escorts in London charging high rates who I know for a fact feel trapped by that, feel they cannot lower them (especially if they are on Twitter and are dependent on that crowd) but who are not making enough, and who take on agency or even brothel work on the side.

Amy?s advice is good.  Whilst there are some out there charging premium rates (say ?300+) you can bet your bottom dollar they didn?t start off like that.

I don?t mean to be harsh, just offering some honest advice.

As others have said...it's the rate that's where you're stumbling block is. I started off doing ?100 per hour out calls until I built up feedback and reputation. I understand your points about the sugar scene...but escorting is a different animal and guys want to see they are booking x for x rate for x amount of time.

I honestly think anybody brand new to the scene with no reputation will struggle to get ?500 an hour, or even 300.

The best advice I can give you is look at the other ladies in your area who offer a similar service and similar age and look, and see where you fit in with all that and set your rates accordingly.  It's fine saying it's not worth it to you for less than ?250...but you may find its not going to be for you in that case.

Well yes, I'd say you're comparing apples and oranges and we do have a separate thread somewhere which covers this 'sugar' stuff in the Blather section. It's in that section because it's completely different from straightforward upfront prostitution which is what the rest of us here are talking about, and possibly why we might appear tonbe at cross purposes.

That said, don't believe everything your competition friends tell you - it's not that likely that anybody with that sort of ego is going to shout it from the rooftops if they're not actually that busy. Plus as you're finding out, having nobody prepared to pay you the rates you think you should get doesn't do much for your self worth once you've finished enjoying the look of the big price tag on your ads.

That aside, if you don't want to set boundaries in terms of timed bookings (and what about services?) and so on I think you're setting yourself up for an absolute nightmare and unless you're prepared to drop your expectations a bit and be realistic about your business you might be better sticking with what you know.

Also don't forget you can always start differently and rebrand yourself once you've got established and found your feet a bit! There are people here whi have sone just that, and you never knwo, you might even not mind slumming it amongst we plebs .

Yes I was. Now I realised I shouldn't and was the wrong comparison.

I know sugaring is completely different, I only mentioned that to explain myself. I'm not seeking advice on that.

once you've finished enjoying the look of the big price tag on your ads. Haha... So very true. I did enjoy looking at the price tag!😂😂😂😂

Oh no, I have boundaries for my services, and for my time too. I was just trying to explain my pricing and my preference for longer dates. However, realistically it will be difficult to start with a 2 hour plus booking as a newbie, as not many new clients would book a non reviewed or established girl for a 2 hour plus date, without initially doing an hour session with her, and maybe 2 hours max.

Being realistic and trying to start slowly is why I have hourly rate and reduced it to 250, instead of doing say 3hrs minimum booking at 500.

you never knwo, you might even not mind slumming it amongst we plebs . 😂😂 In all honesty, I wouldn't mind if I can somehow make myself happy at a lower rate and build up a good level of clientele, but I just don't see that happening. I was very sad to reduce my rate to 250, if I had know before I started that 150 was the best going rate to kick start, I might not have considered escorting or find it enticing as I did.

I'll keep you all posted, if I do become a 150 hottie. 😀

Here's another secret thought; what if I become 150 and get no work?🤔 That's a scary thought, because I might take it personal. 🤪 So far, it hasn't affected my self esteem. I don't think it is me or no one want me, because I know better (and I hope anyone else in my shoes or having a bad day or reading this thread wouldn't feel like that. There are just toooooo many variables!) Although I can't help thinking maybe God dosn't want to be a hoe....lol 😂

Here's another secret thought; what if I become 150 and get no work?🤔 That's a scary thought, because I might take it personal. 🤪 So far, it hasn't affected my self esteem. I don't think it is me or no one want me, because I know better (and I hope anyone else in my shoes or having a bad day or reading this thread wouldn't feel like that. There are just toooooo many variables!) Although I can't help thinking maybe God dosn't want to be a hoe....lol 😂

There's those who refuse to work for less that 500 an hour and there's those to refuse to work for less than 50 an hour. You don;t need to give anyone explanations. If you're going to make the same or less money escorting than you do at your actual job then i agree with you that escorting may not be worth it. I mean.. You can ask for advice here but expectations and business models are different for everyone posting here. What may not work for you might work for some lady operating in some town on the midlands, so take the "advice" with a pinch of salt... :-)

I think regardless of what kind of ?class? you put yourself in, everyone needs to start somewhere and from humble beginnings you can rise to be something great. If you are not getting any bookings at the price you are at, lower them. Especially if you are completely new as your time will come when you can start to charge the prices you want but you need to work for it a little and sacrifice. I think that?s what will help you succeed if you plan on doing this long term.

I started out at ?90 for outcalls. I used to have a morning, afternoon and evening outcall 4 days a week throughout London without fail (for that prices, services and how far I traveled yes!!).

I?m now ?150hr for my incalls, I have enough now finally after this literal cold spell to carry on and this is after just 6 months. I worked and saved, invested into my business and went through the highs and lows of escorting and Im not finished yet. I?m now where I want to be for now and I am content with my prices and I am still busy because I?ve managed to show myself as a genuine lady who works hard and just wants to do well.

I try and just focus on what I am doing rather than worry too much about my competition. I think there is a great support network for ladies including here and on other social networking platforms and it?s personally given me more confidence to push myself further in my career. Take the advice that you feel works for you but for the sake of earning some money, giving you more confidence and experience I think the best advice is to lower a little so that you can at least get your foot in the door first xx

Thanks very much for sharing your journey. I very much appreciate it and very pleased to hear you are doing well and happy where you are now.

I totally agree with your point. In an industry you start slowly and work your way up is how is done. I did lose sight of that with my original pricing but I learned and changed price.

I'm currently okay with my rate at 250, and will struggle mentally to offer my service at a lower rate. But if I can somehow be okay with a lower rate/150 an hour, I'll reduce my rate.

If I can't and couldn't make it at 250 at all, then escorting is not the business for me. That would be the reality and I'm a realistic person. Is important to me that I'm happy with this job if I was to do it.

In the mean time, I'll hold on to my civie job and start looking for promotion there.

Thanks again for your input. 🙂