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jess1234

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Moving from camming to escorting
« on: 03 July 2014, 06:36:50 pm »
Hi all,
I'm new to forums so apologies if iv'e posted this in the wrong area but I couldn't see a button to create a new topic.

I'm really happy to have found this site as I cannot discuss any of the following with my friends of family.

I have been a cam girl on AW for just over 2 years. I have always been fascinated by the world of escorting and can even remember as a child wanting to be a stripper/ escort. I Stripped for one year and when I think back to it now, I actually feel like iv'e lost a part of myself. Ok so i don't miss the late nights and having to pay a house fee, but there was something about it that made me feel like I belonged. I cant really remember why i even stopped now but the thought of going back terrifys me, as I'm allot less confident than I used to be.

Time and time again I hear negative things said about escorting and with no exceptions they are always ignorant comments that upset me because everyone (barring those who actually practise it and/or work in related fields) has such a dim view on it.

Now here's the crazy part, iv'e tried really hard to overcome this urge to do it but since as long as I can remember it has felt like my calling in life. I have tried very hard to 'settle' in other areas of career but every time I end up asking myself....why do I not escort? Sometimes I feel alone and feel like I'm not really made to fit into this world.

Sure there will be legalities and safety matters to address but above and beyond that, why is it looked at as so bad?

The only negative I can think of really is that I may have to accept that I cannot have a loving relationship whilst doing it and potentially find it harder to find someone post escorting. I'm a very honest girl and would always what to be open and honest about what I have done/ am doing but I feel like with escorting it would have to be a shameful secret.....which is upsetting for me because I want to be proud of my accomplishments. I say this because even with webcam I have found boyfriends unwilling to accept it, and out of the ones who have 'tolerated' it, they make me feel like I cant talk about it, and that to me is suffocating. If I have a good night and make ?200+ from the comfort of my own home from making my self cum, making a guy spank himself, and then covering myself in custard frankly I think that's a good night in for me, I find it funny, and I love the access to money, but then to speak to a boyfriend who 'doesn't want to hear' about my great day a work really deflates me.

I'm due to start an office job this coming Monday and iv'e kind of made a deal with myself that if I can make a decent living from my office based role then in time maybe I can explore escorting. I'm also scared of escorting full time and not developing other skills as I feel that this isn't something I could do for ever.

I think I'm just scared of escorting and relying on the money. Where as if I already have a stable income, the escorting can almost be like a 2nd job/hobby. I'm not sure why but i feel like if im not reliant on it for an income then in my mind i can justify doing it...perhaps that's just archaic social confines that have got to me over years of suppression.

I like the idea of it all but really don't like the idea of being submissive to idiot men just because they have money and I don't. I want to be in a strong enough financial position to walk away from a deal if I decide I don't like the guy.

I have cammed with a guy for almost a year now and I know girls that he has meets with, some of whom don't offer full on sex. He is offering me ?100 as a gift and in return I would like to give him 1 hour of my time talking to him in a public place, We have discussed boundaries and he has confirmed that he is not in a rush for our first meet to be anything more than a 'chat' where we can see if we fancy each other in person....... in some ways this seems a little too good to be true, any thoughts?

And another thing... I feel like if I follow my heart and true desires to do this I will then have to detach myself from friends and family because I don't think I could tell any of them about this, how do you girls deal with these things? Is it your little secret that you will never tell anyone or do you accept the potential mud slinging from ignorant people and just own it. Sometimes I wonder if this is a similar feeling to how a gay person must feel before they come out. Why cant we all just be more honest, I'm often told I'm too honest and I think keeping this a secret would be difficult for me.

If anyone can give any words of advice etc that would be greatly appreciated,
Much love and stay safe!
A very confused Jess

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Re: Moving from camming to escorting
« Reply #1 on: 03 July 2014, 06:55:02 pm »
I have been a cam girl on AW for just over 2 years. I have always been fascinated by the world of escorting and can even remember as a child wanting to be a stripper/ escort. I Stripped for one year and when I think back to it now, I actually feel like iv'e lost a part of myself. Ok so i don't miss the late nights and having to pay a house fee, but there was something about it that made me feel like I belonged. I cant really remember why i even stopped now but the thought of going back terrifys me, as I'm allot less confident than I used to be.

Time and time again I hear negative things said about escorting and with no exceptions they are always ignorant comments that upset me because everyone (barring those who actually practise it and/or work in related fields) has such a dim view on it.

Now here's the crazy part, iv'e tried really hard to overcome this urge to do it but since as long as I can remember it has felt like my calling in life. I have tried very hard to 'settle' in other areas of career but every time I end up asking myself....why do I not escort? Sometimes I feel alone and feel like I'm not really made to fit into this world.

Sure there will be legalities and safety matters to address but above and beyond that, why is it looked at as so bad?

The only negative I can think of really is that I may have to accept that I cannot have a loving relationship whilst doing it and potentially find it harder to find someone post escorting. I'm a very honest girl and would always what to be open and honest about what I have done/ am doing but I feel like with escorting it would have to be a shameful secret.....which is upsetting for me because I want to be proud of my accomplishments. I say this because even with webcam I have found boyfriends unwilling to accept it, and out of the ones who have 'tolerated' it, they make me feel like I cant talk about it, and that to me is suffocating. If I have a good night and make ?200+ from the comfort of my own home from making my self cum, making a guy spank himself, and then covering myself in custard frankly I think that's a good night in for me, I find it funny, and I love the access to money, but then to speak to a boyfriend who 'doesn't want to hear' about my great day a work really deflates me.

I'm due to start an office job this coming Monday and iv'e kind of made a deal with myself that if I can make a decent living from my office based role then in time maybe I can explore escorting. I'm also scared of escorting full time and not developing other skills as I feel that this isn't something I could do for ever.

I think I'm just scared of escorting and relying on the money. Where as if I already have a stable income, the escorting can almost be like a 2nd job/hobby. I'm not sure why but i feel like if im not reliant on it for an income then in my mind i can justify doing it...perhaps that's just archaic social confines that have got to me over years of suppression.

I like the idea of it all but really don't like the idea of being submissive to idiot men just because they have money and I don't. I want to be in a strong enough financial position to walk away from a deal if I decide I don't like the guy.

I have cammed with a guy for almost a year now and I know girls that he has meets with, some of whom don't offer full on sex. He is offering me ?100 as a gift and in return I would like to give him 1 hour of my time talking to him in a public place, We have discussed boundaries and he has confirmed that he is not in a rush for our first meet to be anything more than a 'chat' where we can see if we fancy each other in person....... in some ways this seems a little too good to be true, any thoughts?

And another thing... I feel like if I follow my heart and true desires to do this I will then have to detach myself from friends and family because I don't think I could tell any of them about this, how do you girls deal with these things? Is it your little secret that you will never tell anyone or do you accept the potential mud slinging from ignorant people and just own it. Sometimes I wonder if this is a similar feeling to how a gay person must feel before they come out. Why cant we all just be more honest, I'm often told I'm too honest and I think keeping this a secret would be difficult for me.

Hi Jess and welcome! I've separated your post into a new thread since the topic wasn't really the same, so people can give you tailored advice :).

Firstly, sex work is only as much of a secret as you want it to be, and you can think about who (if anybody) you're going to tell about it for as long as you want. Many people working in prostitution have perfectly ordinary and mundane home lives and personal relationships; it's a job, no more and no less. Others find it harder, but it's certainly not 'shameful' unless you think it is.

There are a lot of discussions about the various issues you've mentioned scattered about the forum - try typing some keywords into the Search box on the top right - but specifically the man with whom you're arranging a meeting; the ?100 is not a 'gift', it is your fee and if he's prepared to pay you just to chat for an hour then that's fine. If you definitely plan to meet in public though, only agree if he will wait somewhere you can see and check he's there first, and make sure you get your money upfront (some people will use the public setting to try and put off paying you). Always make sure you have a security buddy who knows where you are and with whom, and arrange a time to contact them by once the hour is up as well as a contingency plan in case anything goes wrong.

As for whether you 'fancy' each other, if you can only have sex with people you're attracted to then the job probably isn't for you. You can turn anybody down for any reason you like, but generally the handing over of large sums of cash brings the expectation that you'll ignore things like physical appearance (that doesn't mean you have to ignore bad manners, poor hygiene and so on!) That said, I doubt very much he's going to pay you for nothing more than sitting drinking tea, so do be on your guard if you go ahead.

Finally, do read the main SAAFE site if you haven't already - there's lots of info on starting up there and it should answer a good few of your questions :).

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Re: Moving from camming to escorting
« Reply #2 on: 03 July 2014, 07:48:21 pm »
Thanks very much Amy.

Id also be interested to know what motivates people into prostitution. From working in strip clubs I can see allot of 'sad cases' of binge drinking mums trying to pay debts etc and that's why I kind of feel like I'm so weird wanting to go into something like this, I don't have a history of abusive relationships, living out or a crack den or being pimped out :/ perhaps my judgement here is really warped as you mentioned some of the girls on here have 'normal' lives. Likewise iv'e encountered sugar baby type princess 'models'/wannabe celeb girls who seem to have crazy money, i'm guessing this is a rare breed?

Thanks again for your time and please feel free to leave any other hints tips, in the mean time ill check out the rest of the site and THANKS again to the people who set this up  :) :) :)

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Re: Moving from camming to escorting
« Reply #3 on: 03 July 2014, 09:27:55 pm »
Id also be interested to know what motivates people into prostitution. From working in strip clubs I can see allot of 'sad cases' of binge drinking mums trying to pay debts etc and that's why I kind of feel like I'm so weird wanting to go into something like this, I don't have a history of abusive relationships, living out or a crack den or being pimped out :/ perhaps my judgement here is really warped as you mentioned some of the girls on here have 'normal' lives.

I've no doubt there are sex workers who fall into the job through desperate circumstances, but bar a good few people wanting to clear their debts quickly and easily I've never met any, and the vast, vast majority of indoor workers are perfectly ordinary people of all ages, shapes, sizes and genders earning an ordinary living just like everybody else.

It does look very much as if your view on prostitutes (and likely punters too) has been coloured by the media, but if you have a good read through here then you'll likely discover that whilst it's a broad church it's also a pretty contented one for the most part, even if everybody does like a whinge now and again :).

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Re: Moving from camming to escorting
« Reply #4 on: 04 July 2014, 12:45:30 am »
I also worry about finding a partner after I've exited the industry. I guess it's something I wouldn't have to tell that potential person as it would be part of my past. Ideally I would like to be open and honest, I mean it's hypothetical as I don't have a partner at the mo but it's something I think about 
thats the only part I have issue with.

Anyways I don't think you would have to alienate yourself from family. Obviously it's up to you how much you work and how much you want to tell people. If you're usually honest and open with your family or quite close I guess you might find it difficult keeping it secret, that can sometimes make you feel lonely/seperate from people.

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Re: Moving from camming to escorting
« Reply #5 on: 04 July 2014, 01:03:40 am »
The only negative I can think of really is that I may have to accept that I cannot have a loving relationship whilst doing it and potentially find it harder to find someone post escorting.

The issue of relationships while escorting has come up several times before :) and a search doubtless will come up with several threads.

After quitting, if you're going to tell them that your 'number' is quite high, do they need to know money was involved? Especially before they've demonstrated that they've accepted that you've very probably had rather more partners than they have.

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I'm not sure why but i feel like if im not reliant on it for an income then in my mind i can justify doing it...perhaps that's just archaic social confines that have got to me over years of suppression.

Not being reliant on the money can be tremendously freeing, because it reinforces that you don't need to put up with any crap...

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I like the idea of it all but really don't like the idea of being submissive to idiot men just because they have money and I don't.

... and one of the first things to learn is that even though they're paying, you're the one in charge. You set the boundaries, for example, and if they don't like them, they can go elsewhere.

Much of the rest has been covered (and I'm not the only one who is a tiny bit cynical at someone offering ?100 for chat, but then a hours webcamming can't cost much less than that) above.

The one other thing I'd add is that it's lovely that you would want to be out about it all, but you can't undo coming out to someone, so tread carefully. Again, you can leave telling them about the cash aspect until after they've demonstrated that they're ok with some of the other bits, for example.
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Re: Moving from camming to escorting
« Reply #6 on: 04 July 2014, 01:09:06 am »
Hi again,

Thanks Amy and Lola, all advice and input are so helpful to me at this time as is this AMAZING site!!!

And Lola I agree it would be nice to be open and honest with everyone about everything but the older I get the more I sadly seem to realise that most people just 'dont get it' and i'm not just talking about escorting here. I often find most people to be really closed minded, and not even through their own rational thoughts but more so through a submissive willingness to accept what they are told and not question anything.

Ie) escorting is bad and you will die..... but looking on here id say most of you girls actually are ok with what you do and have come to the conclusion to do it from your own merit.  I really do respect that courage.

Much Luv
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Re: Moving from camming to escorting
« Reply #7 on: 04 July 2014, 01:11:59 am »
The only negative I can think of really is that I may have to accept that I cannot have a loving relationship whilst doing it and potentially find it harder to find someone post escorting.

The issue of relationships while escorting has come up several times before :) and a search doubtless will come up with several threads.

After quitting, if you're going to tell them that your 'number' is quite high, do they need to know money was involved? Especially before they've demonstrated that they've accepted that you've very probably had rather more partners than they have.

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I'm not sure why but i feel like if im not reliant on it for an income then in my mind i can justify doing it...perhaps that's just archaic social confines that have got to me over years of suppression.

Not being reliant on the money can be tremendously freeing, because it reinforces that you don't need to put up with any crap...

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I like the idea of it all but really don't like the idea of being submissive to idiot men just because they have money and I don't.

... and one of the first things to learn is that even though they're paying, you're the one in charge. You set the boundaries, for example, and if they don't like them, they can go elsewhere.

Much of the rest has been covered (and I'm not the only one who is a tiny bit cynical at someone offering ?100 for chat, but then a hours webcamming can't cost much less than that) above.

The one other thing I'd add is that it's lovely that you would want to be out about it all, but you can't undo coming out to someone, so tread carefully. Again, you can leave telling them about the cash aspect until after they've demonstrated that they're ok with some of the other bits, for example.

Also really helpfull THANK YOU!!! :)

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Re: Moving from camming to escorting
« Reply #8 on: 04 July 2014, 03:33:51 pm »
If you want to do it so much that's great :) Your positivity will really go down well & make you good bucks :)

Camming i have noticed is very much more hustling / keeping attention to get paid so escorting should be a lot easier for you because hey, they're already here, you just have to keep them entertained for the hour & chattiness is a big thing in camming so you shouldn't have trouble really

As regards to familey yes it does put a barrier up. Nothing to say you couldn't carry on camming. Perhaps just tell them you do that? Sometimes i care if people find out sometimes i don't. It's up to you but at the same time... try 1 client see how you feel. It's not a sex worker sentance if you don't like it haha. Read up as much as you can on this forum.