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Foxing

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Outcalls to other cities?
« on: 14 August 2012, 07:48:33 pm »
How do you trust that these will not be TWs?

Have had a request, we've been talking for last few days, he's in another city. I'm a bit worried I'll spend a fortune on train fare and he won't turn up, even though he promises me he will...how do you know??  :-\
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sarahyorks

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Re: Outcalls to other cities?
« Reply #1 on: 14 August 2012, 07:57:09 pm »
Ask for him to pay a deposit equal to the cost of the train fare
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Re: Outcalls to other cities?
« Reply #2 on: 14 August 2012, 08:04:23 pm »
Well if all your outcall checks pan out fine (and he's happy to provide the relevant information - getting cagey about this is a good sign of all not being well) and you have chance to phone him on the appropriate number to see if he's there before you set off, there's no particular reason why it should be any more likely to be a wild goose chase. I regularly do outcalls hundreds of miles from home and have never been caught out yet - I walked off one overnight and relocated one booking to my B&B because the hotel was so disgusting but I've never been stood up.

Deposits which will cover your travel costs won't hurt if you can reassure him that you're not going to just do one with his money - having a bit of form helps here (FRs, credible feedback and so on). Otherwise, possibly arrange to meet in the middle? Hotel reservations are normally a lot easier to check than home addresses, apart from anything else.
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Re: Outcalls to other cities?
« Reply #3 on: 14 August 2012, 11:11:20 pm »
Hi
as the others have said - do your research and take a deposit but this
Quote from: Foxing on 14 August 2012, 07:48:33 pm
we've been talking for last few days
bit bothered me. I always find the more they talk, the less likely they are to book. I know that arranging an outcall takes some discussion but I'd be looking to move this to a definite booking and a deposit rapidly for fear we'd still be talking in a weeks time...
Fingers crossed for you!
R xx
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Re: Outcalls to other cities?
« Reply #4 on: 15 August 2012, 01:45:35 am »
When you say you are worried 'he won't turn up' what do you mean? Are you meeting him in a public place? :o
If it's a Hotel, I wouldn't even begin to travel until he has arrived there and I've spoken to him on his room phone.

He can check in from early afternoon and chill out till you arrive.  8)
I personally never trust a Hotel booking reservation as it can easily be cancelled and you won't have his room number if he starts to play silly beggars.

If you are going to his home you need his full name, address and landline number. If he can't supply all of these at the time of booking don't go.

I have been Outcall only for 3 years, travel everywhere and can count on one hand the number of times I have had a wasted journey.

As Rooby said, 'talking for days' is a real sign of a Timewaster.
I would ask for a deposit aswell with this one, incase he simply 'bottles it' last minute.. :-\
« Last Edit: 15 August 2012, 01:48:18 am by Phoenix »
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Re: Outcalls to other cities?
« Reply #5 on: 15 August 2012, 10:00:36 am »
I agree re. the deposit idea. If he becomes deeply distraught at the idea of you not trusting him, *sniffle*, just move on. It's not like there is only 1 client and 1 escort in the country! He (and you) could easily find a local alternative. Yes, perhaps he genuinely feels that he must have you-and-only-you. ;) But equally possible is the idea that he gets off on the idea of getting someone to travel for miles for absolutely nothing, possibly while he peers out the window of his real address opposite and sends you explicit texts.

As Rooby said, if he's been wittering away at you about this booking for "a few days" and you've covered such conversational topics as Will You Turn Up and I Promise I Will, Babe, then he's just a silly timewaster and you need to cease wasting your time and effort on him toot sweet. Cos even if he is there, he probably won't have your fee with him - chatting guys usually think they can win you over to the idea of having hott sexx with them for free because they are so, er, charming [deluded]. These lotharios spend a lot more time chatting to women (and to men pretending to be women) on the internet than they do paying for sex, because they spend ALL their time doing the former and none of it doing the latter! :P
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Re: Outcalls to other cities?
« Reply #6 on: 15 August 2012, 10:43:07 am »
Bit dubious about posting more in case he reads this.... :-\

I will ask for a deposit if I do go, he wanted me to book a London hotel but if I do I'll get the money upfront. If it were someone else I'd say 'leave it. move on' yet this guy's got under my skin/into my head.
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Re: Outcalls to other cities?
« Reply #7 on: 15 August 2012, 10:58:48 am »
Quote from: Foxing on 15 August 2012, 10:43:07 am
I will ask for a deposit if I do go, he wanted me to book a London hotel but if I do I'll get the money upfront. If it were someone else I'd say 'leave it. move on' yet this guy's got under my skin/into my head.

He what? And what? And also, what?

I had a long-time regular ask me to book a hotel for him earlier this week, coincidentally! In my head I said, "LOL" and to him I said, "Oh, I'm sorry, I have other plans for this week. Perhaps another time." He's a guy who went from being a generous & regular client to being completely bizarre in his requests, never wanting to give me any notice, never paying any attention to my stated availability, being vague about booking times, trying to string me along, thinking I'm going to rent an apartment or hotel room for a week so he can apparently pop in when the mood strikes him. Ever since he started being so unreliable I've either ignored him or gone along with his request for a brief time to see if he's actually going to turn up for a booking, but he doesn't anymore. People are odd.

Sorry - tangent! But I'm afraid that I have absolutely no useful advice for what to do if some random man who's been emailing you has gotten "into your head" and is making you consider paying for expensive train fare and/or an expensive hotel room - except could you let me know his mind-control methods cos I could do with someone buying me some expensive treats from Wholefoods this week. :D (Sorry - I'm not making fun here, but I'm honestly baffled. Please consider taking the wise advice from this thread above and extricate yourself from this bizarre situation before you get completely scammed by some nutcase.)
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Re: Outcalls to other cities?
« Reply #8 on: 15 August 2012, 11:00:45 am »
Quote from: Foxing on 15 August 2012, 10:43:07 am
......................... he wanted me to book a London hotel ..................................

Foxing this brings up big red flags for me.  Like the guy who asks loads of questions (though this can be genuine too); the guy who requests such and such an outfit (again this can be genuine) and then there is the one who requests watersports (again this can be genuine too) ................... if someone asks for two out of three of these run for the hills.

Just why can't he book the hotel. After all most can be done via the internet so no excuse that he has no availability.  If they come up with excuse they do not have availability to internet ............... there are loads of hotels with internet in lobbies and there are loads of internet cafes all over the world.


Quote from: Foxing on 15 August 2012, 10:43:07 am
yet this guy's got under my skin/into my head.

Again Foxing, keep it professional and don't let him 'get under your skin'.  Remember this is a business transaction and your job.  Dont let sentiment get in your way.

Good Luck.
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Re: Outcalls to other cities?
« Reply #9 on: 15 August 2012, 11:02:03 am »
Sorry cross posted with Emily.  But it proves the red flag theory.
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Re: Outcalls to other cities?
« Reply #10 on: 15 August 2012, 11:18:27 am »
You're all right, I'm wrong to even entertain these kind of requests. I will put it down to experience.  ;D
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Re: Outcalls to other cities?
« Reply #11 on: 15 August 2012, 11:26:48 am »
Quote from: Foxing on 15 August 2012, 11:18:27 am
You're all right, I'm wrong to even entertain these kind of requests. I will put it down to experience.  ;D

We all have to learn somehow, if I ever have someone ask me to book a hotel for a meet I tell them to pay me before I book it or no chance. If they do cover the cost and they don't show then it's their loss. But as for asking for a London hotel with how expensive they are it sounds just plain odd.
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« Reply #12 on: 15 August 2012, 12:29:49 pm »
Details upfront, and phone call in the room if hotel. If going to a residential address ask for full name, checkable landline or name on electoral roll and/or other proof they actually live there.

Most genuine people will provide this information. Some will be put off by it but it cuts down the chances you are about to have your timewasted, and may help you also avoid well known scammers (see relevant sections on this forum).
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Re: Outcalls to other cities?
« Reply #13 on: 15 August 2012, 12:59:48 pm »
Why cant he travel to visit you and book hotel if you dont offer incalls.?Timewaster or not. You shouldnt have to be paying out on train fare or worry about spending the money if he messes you about at least if your at home youve not spent out if they are no shows
 I will not travel distance they can visit me if they really want.
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« Reply #14 on: 15 August 2012, 05:33:31 pm »
I had a regular client pay me $400 thru paypal last week when I was to do an outcall to a city he was visiting which is about 300 miles from me.

What happened was I asked for a deposit. He sent it, but then cancelled the day prior and sent another 200. I kind of felt 'cheeky' the word is? for getting that amount...but at the same time the plans were set.

I've also had another case where a client sent a deposit and also needed to cancel for a good reason.

I don't mind doing outcalls to other cities. In fact, one good way to tell if they are serious is to A) ask for a deposit or B) get the address to their home. If they saying to come to their city and want you to host...that's just taking chances.
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