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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Pinky123 on 15 April 2019, 05:09:04 pm
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Hi everyone
I've been working for two years on between £120- £180 p/h and while I'm grateful for those rates I really want to take it up a notch. Does anyone have any advice on how to work on £250+ an hour in London? I don't think AW is the place to advertise on these rates. I would consider joining an agency as well. I have a website but am really struggling with fi ding the right sites to advertise on. Any ideas?
Pinky xxx
Thanks xxx
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If you join an agency they will take thirty percent so you would need to be £350 an hour. I’m my opinion just try it if it works for you then fine. X
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I work basic for £120 per hr on AW. I have a separate personal website with £250 per hr rate and some clients go for that too. I have an online booking system and they find that convenient. My website is nothing special. I'm not a super-model ;D there's only 1 photo, no face or nude, I make it clear they're paying for a high quality customised service.
I've joined several agencies and found them nice as cherry pie when you join then increasingly abusive especially when I haven't complied with 'company policies' like-
-doing 'free' owo on every client without discretion (if not you can't join, clients will report you)
-buying crates of wine to entertain their clients ???, (they cultivated a team of depressed, alcoholic escorts from the owner to the receptionist)
-being pressurised to see males who I said I wouldn't see under any circumstance ie '...he's round the corner you've got to see him now or you can leave the agency'.
Those are just the pimp wierdness of 3 different agencies!
I don't think they screen properly or at all, share your address with undesirable men and aren't bothered if this puts girls in dangerous situations. Lots of threads on agencies here. Do the experiment then you can judge for yourself. Interesting to know how you get on.
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If you join an agency they will take thirty percent...
Many take a lot more than that. (I speak from experience).
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. Does anyone have any advice on how to work on £250+ an hour in London? I don't think AW is the place to advertise on these rates.
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I fully disagree with that, I see many many 250 (and more) independents an hour in central London area on aw. They have plenty of reviews and seem to be quite busy. however... you will have to upmarket yourself a notch, as in fancier pictures and fancier website and look a bit more posh. It's all about perception:-)
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It's all about your marketing: website; ads; photos; the grammar you use; the way in which you respond to enquiries; how quickly you respond to enquiries (or, not leaving them hanging for days) - everything must be professional and flawless.
Then you get to the physical service. No point buying more expensive pants if your website's shit.
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I think if you really want to go upscale, it's a case of SEOing the shit out of your own website. I don't think anyone targeting the high end would be on any directories with the hoi polloi like me. It's about your own site, Twitter and probably Instagram.
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I saw someone's site today: a girl in London who is apparently a swimwear / underwear model charging £1500 for 2 hours - AND SHE GETS IT ???
So, there is a market out there it seems but some serious hard graft has to be put in for website and constant Twitter.
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I think for 250 an hour you can do well on AW as long as you get a new photo shoot done of professional looking photos make sure to wear expensive lingerie and shoot at a luxury room or pool
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Then you get to the physical service. No point buying more expensive pants if your website's shit.
:D
OP what part of London are you in? If you're in an upmarket area you'll stand a better chance of getting those rates (because people who live there have the money to spend.)
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Hi everyone
I've been working for two years on between £120- £180 p/h and while I'm grateful for those rates I really want to take it up a notch. Does anyone have any advice on how to work on £250+ an hour in London? I don't think AW is the place to advertise on these rates. I would consider joining an agency as well. I have a website but am really struggling with fi ding the right sites to advertise on. Any ideas?
Pinky xxx
Thanks xxx
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1. Don't work in London
it is cheaper than North of England we charge here 200 per h 300-400 for 3h 600-800 night
2. Keep high rate for short time low rate for long time
less time wasters more quality clients, probobly for outcalls, I know you will say London is a tragedy for outcalls because it is big.. possible but one or two good outcalls should sort your day.
3. If you have to be in London .. forget viva and all those rubbish websites
advertise as high end girl 600 pound ine h 1500 dinner date 3000 night
have your own web page and advertise only on high end sites
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It's all about your marketing: website; ads; photos; the grammar you use; the way in which you respond to enquiries; how quickly you respond to enquiries (or, not leaving them hanging for days) - everything must be professional and flawless.
Then you get to the physical service. No point buying more expensive pants if your website's shit.
well said!
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1. Don't work in London
it is cheaper than North of England we charge here 200 per h 300-400 for 3h 600-800 night
2. Keep high rate for short time low rate for long time
less time wasters more quality clients, probobly for outcalls, I know you will say London is a tragedy for outcalls because it is big.. possible but one or two good outcalls should sort your day.
3. If you have to be in London .. forget viva and all those rubbish websites
advertise as high end girl 600 pound ine h 1500 dinner date 3000 night
have your own web page and advertise only on high end sites
What high end sites would you recommend to advertise on. I'm looking to up my rates but adultwork doesnt seem like the place for me sadly
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Main thing is a proper website.
You can do it in Wix or build it in joomla and keep it on amazon servers.
Google position seo - pay someone or try your own , if you have skills. Check other girls websites, disclaimers, offer. You can try active escorts, eros, london independents, euro girls, leg, blue velvet girls might be agency but not sure, each website cost a bit.. If any of you plan to work for less than 400/h,1k/3h, 3k/night, do not even bother with advertising there. Many advertise 600/1,5k/4,5k. There are only girls who advertise mild, they do not post anal swallow rimming spanking..etc When I see 200-250 there - it is not high end enymore.. but it is on Viva West North where you get 200/h easy, making 60-80k/y outcall only.Not bothering with cheap incall with high accommodation cost.
Would I reccomend to work in London? All depends how far you wanna go ;)
What I would reccomend? To read MINIONARE FASTLANE book.
Use for now that easy escort London path but build your welth
in your fast lane.. because we can't be an escort all the time..
I wish all You girls good income, low cost and retire in 5 years time.
ps. Jacking our job - not having profitable business after - is not a way I talk about.
When you read the book you will know what I mean. The book changed my life.
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Hi everyone,
Thought I'd give you a heads up. I've decided to stop working in London for a while as I am literally getting no bookings :-[
Its on average £400-500 a week rent (either through a hotel or in a working flat) and despite being on Eros, Cherry girls, Tryst and Slixa I was still getting two phone calls a day if that. I have pro photos and a good website as well. don't know whether London is dead, if it's me or if the demand just isn't the same as in Manchester.
I'm still going to go back maybe once a week in a month's time but it's been a real struggle. I really don't know how high class escorts who charge £300 an hour do it! xx
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I really don't know how high class expensive escorts who charge £300 an hour do it! xx
The women I know who charged nosebleed rates generally did very few bookings a week (1-3 maybe) and the bookings tended to be longer because they heavily weighted the extra hours as Lizzy has mentioned; so if an hour is 300, two hours might be 500 and three hours 600 - that sort of thing. They also almost always had cheaper ads up with different photos and normal rates, because if you're doing two or three bookings a week from your fancy ads and one cancels, you're fucked. Charging more doesn't mean earning more.
I thought I'd shoved this link in here before but obviously not - it's not quite the same thing but have a read of this thread too: https://saafe.info/main/questions-and-answers/new-starter-marketing-high-cost-outcalls/msg332334/#msg332334 (https://saafe.info/main/questions-and-answers/new-starter-marketing-high-cost-outcalls/msg332334/#msg332334).
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Sorry to hear that Pink, yes it's bitch-expensive here. I too have a low level of calls as I am horribly picky in my ads and spell out why certain people are not welcome to call me.
I often get 2 calls a day, but I'll usually get a nice well paid job from one of them. Any bunch of minor, cheap and cheerful, quick gigs on top of that is all beef gravy eg from £40 upwards. Often it's 1 call I job which suits me. It's not the number of calls that counts, it's the booking ratio. I wonder why they don't stick?
-Eros and Cherry girls seem to have been on the decline for many years. Personally I don't touch them.
-Slixa is mentioned on several threads here as being a 'waste of time', I also don't think it's very well know in the UK.
-My computer firewall has blocked Tryst as, it says 'The website tried to negotiate an inadequate level of security...it uses security technology that is outdated and vulnerable to attack' So I can't comment on that site.
I agree with Amy....I wouldn't fret about £300 girls, we charge what we like. My colleague charges £150 per gig and now owns 3 homes in Mayfair.
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Hi everyone,
Thought I'd give you a heads up. I've decided to stop working in London for a while as I am literally getting no bookings :-[
Its on average £400-500 a week rent (either through a hotel or in a working flat) and despite being on Eros, Cherry girls, Tryst and Slixa I was still getting two phone calls a day if that. I have pro photos and a good website as well. don't know whether London is dead, if it's me or if the demand just isn't the same as in Manchester.
I'm still going to go back maybe once a week in a month's time but it's been a real struggle. I really don't know how high class escorts who charge £300 an hour do it! xx
i do not pay this to work from my flat! this is overpriced rates that you find when you take a sublet flat
or a short term one. this is are crazy price
do not worth to me spend like that..unless you want a super luxury flat
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250/300 is doable but you need to stand out, not just in website/ advertising but service. There are always those clients that don't come back but also those who do and like seeing the same escort(s). Market research-ask clients why they booked you in the first place.
If you don't have an AW at a high rate then as has been suggested have a lower rate on AW.
Repeat clientele is key to raising prices gradually over time.
300+girls are often with agencies, working in parlours etc or have a civvy job to tide them over.
Why you and not another 300 girl? Thats what you need to develop if you want to work at a high rate. Just my opinion x
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250/300 is doable but you need to stand out, not just in website/ advertising but service. There are always those clients that don't come back but also those who do and like seeing the same escort(s). Market research-ask clients why they booked you in the first place.
If you don't have an AW at a high rate then as has been suggested have a lower rate on AW.
Repeat clientele is key to raising prices gradually over time.
300+girls are often with agencies, working in parlours etc or have a civvy job to tide them over.
Why you and not another 300 girl? Thats what you need to develop if you want to work at a high rate. Just my opinion x
from what i see the 300+ hourly girls are from upscale agencies and london based. Usually cater to wealthy americans and UAE visiting tourists or any other country tourists who are wealthy and are visiting london. Usually local men in the uk will be ready to pay the market rate at 120-150 an hour, except some 50+ retired wealthy guy again in london. Parlors tend to be on the cheap side (80-120) an hour.
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I echo what Amy said; higher rates do not mean more income.
My rates are considered high (or the top of the market rates) where I am, and thankfully, I am still as busy as I was she I was £50 an hour less when I first started. If I put my rates up, regardless of the marketing I put in, I'd get less bookings in quantity but the time I have saved in bookings would be spent on additional marketing. I knew which I'd prefer, because I am already up to my eyeballs in marketing.
There was a post by another lady somewhere: she said she was high end / expensive but then went onto list how much she spent on all the shit products and beauty treatments in order to pass as high end, which left her with a pretty average net profit - the same as any full time entry level profession.
So really, you need to examine how a price hike would affect your sustainability. I like the suggestions of having different personas at different prices, that would make a smart move if you are determined to raise rates somewhere.
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We all want to maximise our earnings as easy as possible.
I think research of the area to find the typical rate helps.
No point being in a town with high unemployment and generally a wasteland trying to get 2 or 3 bookings a day at 200ph.
You ideally want a rate that puts off the idiots and timewaisters yet attracts respectable guys enough to get the amount of bookings per day that you are happy to do.
As Amy rightly says, higher rate does not mean more money.
Charging 300ph for example might get you 2 or 3 bookings a week.
Charging 170 may get you 2 or 3 a day.
Come the end of the week you've earned more charging the lower rate.
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We all want to maximise our earnings as easy as possible.
I think research of the area to find the typical rate helps.
No point being in a town with high unemployment and generally a wasteland trying to get 2 or 3 bookings a day at 200ph.
You ideally want a rate that puts off the idiots and timewaisters yet attracts respectable guys enough to get the amount of bookings per day that you are happy to do.
As Amy rightly says, higher rate does not mean more money.
Charging 300ph for example might get you 2 or 3 bookings a week.
Charging 170 may get you 2 or 3 a day.
Come the end of the week you've earned more charging the lower rate.
very well said.
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3. If you have to be in London .. forget viva and all those rubbish websites
advertise as high end girl 600 pound ine h 1500 dinner date 3000 night
have your own web page and advertise only on high end sites
what a funny advice
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Sorry to hear that Pink, yes it's bitch-expensive here. I too have a low level of calls as I am horribly picky in my ads and spell out why certain people are not welcome to call me.
I often get 2 calls a day, but I'll usually get a nice well paid job from one of them. Any bunch of minor, cheap and cheerful, quick gigs on top of that is all beef gravy eg from £40 upwards. Often it's 1 call I job which suits me. It's not the number of calls that counts, it's the booking ratio. I wonder why they don't stick?
-Eros and Cherry girls seem to have been on the decline for many years. Personally I don't touch them.
-Slixa is mentioned on several threads here as being a 'waste of time', I also don't think it's very well know in the UK.
-My computer firewall has blocked Tryst as, it says 'The website tried to negotiate an inadequate level of security...it uses security technology that is outdated and vulnerable to attack' So I can't comment on that site.
I agree with Amy....I wouldn't fret about £300 girls, we charge what we like. My colleague charges £150 per gig and now owns 3 homes in Mayfair.
Agree with all of this. I use cherry girls and it's nothing giving me much (in fact, I do not advertise on adultwork anymore and basically I do not get timewasters anymore, but the ones I get are always from cherry girl ::). I know other people experiences with slixa and eros - they get basically nothing.
Op. Don't start with 250ph if you want to relocate back in london. You have to raise rates over time.
I recently raised my rates to 250ph in london and I'm still busy and honestly still can't believe I could do that. It seemed unreachable for me even though I started working in London few years ago on 180-200ph.
First of all there are sites for advertising but mainly look into international directories because that's where all the international clients look. I would suggest buying banner advertisement, advertise like crazy on twitter posting your photos 2 times a week, try to engage there, hire person for seo, seriously because without this you would get lost. My 30% of traffic comes from google, this means clients google and you have to be found on google.
I have friend which is very busy working on 250ph rate in london, working monday-friday. What she told me - she used to spend 1k a month for advertisement. Because that's how you mainly get bookings - you have to be visible, you have to spend to earn.
All the time I get slower, I start panic and buy another advertisement :D
I do have banner ads, good twitter presence, I have very good seo, I have featured ads in few sites that work for me.
Also everyone want to be 'high class escort' but you have to understand that usually the ones who charge much, provide very niche services.
Also they see less clients and usually have lower personas somewhere else.
So also do not forget to calculate what's your goal. and how much clients do you want to see and how much clients do you think you will get.
Like is it better to charge 300ph and get 2 bookings a week or is it better and more approachable to charge 200ph and hopefully get 3-4 times clients than that.
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Hi Everyone
Sorry for the late reply, I've been a bit hectic. I think maybe my perception was a bit skewed- I imagined these expensive escorts earning thousands a day ??? In Manchester I am getting between 5-7 clients a day at £130 an hour/ £70 half an hour. I realise that at £200 in London I would have to see a lot less clients to earn what I do in Manchester *but* if I'm only getting 2 clients a day financially Manchester is better. I am used to high volume and don't have any other income. £500 that I was paying for rent is crazy- I've been ripped off. The problem I have is that I have a mortgage/ bills in Manchester and I really don't want to sign another rental contract.
I totally understand that its quality over quantity and that as a general rule the more you charge the longer a booking tends to be- and the client will be well off. But again, its all very well having a four hour dinner date but if you're only getting one a week its not financially viable :'(
I've applied for agencies in London but unless you are a size 6 and look like a supermodel they don't want to know. And yes, Slixa, Tryst, Eros and Cherry girls are a waste of time. I've decided to stick with Manchester for the most part but I will still go to London a couple of times a month. I think what I'd like to do is to promote myself as an international escort?
Here are the sites I'm going to advertise on. i think you're definitely right, you have to advertise, advertise, advertise!
Eurogirls
London Belles
City of Love
Massage Republic
22 Burlington
Open Adult Directory
Punterlink International
Top Escort babes
On my website I'm on £250 an hour and on AW I'll be on £180 an hour. I'm also looking at doing tours abroad, possibly New York and Amsterdam. Thank you for all your replies, and if you have any other advice I'd really appreciate it! xxxx
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Agree with all of this. I use cherry girls and it's nothing giving me much (in fact, I do not advertise on adultwork anymore and basically I do not get timewasters anymore, but the ones I get are always from cherry girl ::). I know other people experiences with slixa and eros - they get basically nothing.
Op. Don't start with 250ph if you want to relocate back in london. You have to raise rates over time.
I recently raised my rates to 250ph in london and I'm still busy and honestly still can't believe I could do that. It seemed unreachable for me even though I started working in London few years ago on 180-200ph.
First of all there are sites for advertising but mainly look into international directories because that's where all the international clients look. I would suggest buying banner advertisement, advertise like crazy on twitter posting your photos 2 times a week, try to engage there, hire person for seo, seriously because without this you would get lost. My 30% of traffic comes from google, this means clients google and you have to be found on google.
I have friend which is very busy working on 250ph rate in london, working monday-friday. What she told me - she used to spend 1k a month for advertisement. Because that's how you mainly get bookings - you have to be visible, you have to spend to earn.
All the time I get slower, I start panic and buy another advertisement :D
I do have banner ads, good twitter presence, I have very good seo, I have featured ads in few sites that work for me.
Also everyone want to be 'high class escort' but you have to understand that usually the ones who charge much, provide very niche services.
Also they see less clients and usually have lower personas somewhere else.
So also do not forget to calculate what's your goal. and how much clients do you want to see and how much clients do you think you will get.
Like is it better to charge 300ph and get 2 bookings a week or is it better and more approachable to charge 200ph and hopefully get 3-4 times clients than that.
can i see your website?
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can i see your website?
We don't ask anonymous posters to identify themselves here either publicly or privately, DL.
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can i see your website?
p.s. I work part time.
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Hi Everyone
Sorry for the late reply, I've been a bit hectic. I think maybe my perception was a bit skewed- I imagined these expensive escorts earning thousands a day ??? In Manchester I am getting between 5-7 clients a day at £130 an hour/ £70 half an hour. I realise that at £200 in London I would have to see a lot less clients to earn what I do in Manchester *but* if I'm only getting 2 clients a day financially Manchester is better. I am used to high volume and don't have any other income. £500 that I was paying for rent is crazy- I've been ripped off. The problem I have is that I have a mortgage/ bills in Manchester and I really don't want to sign another rental contract.
I totally understand that its quality over quantity and that as a general rule the more you charge the longer a booking tends to be- and the client will be well off. But again, its all very well having a four hour dinner date but if you're only getting one a week its not financially viable :'(
I've applied for agencies in London but unless you are a size 6 and look like a supermodel they don't want to know. And yes, Slixa, Tryst, Eros and Cherry girls are a waste of time. I've decided to stick with Manchester for the most part but I will still go to London a couple of times a month. I think what I'd like to do is to promote myself as an international escort?
Here are the sites I'm going to advertise on. i think you're definitely right, you have to advertise, advertise, advertise!
Eurogirls
London Belles
City of Love
Massage Republic
22 Burlington
Open Adult Directory
Punterlink International
Top Escort babes
On my website I'm on £250 an hour and on AW I'll be on £180 an hour. I'm also looking at doing tours abroad, possibly New York and Amsterdam. Thank you for all your replies, and if you have any other advice I'd really appreciate it! xxxx
Those are good directories but don't forget other ones too. Tryst works for me. Google 'London escorts' London escort directory' and see what comes up.
Also don't forget that very good thing to do is to be on other escorts friends pages.
I think to come in London once in a while is good idea. Work with your presence for London with perhaps 200ph rate and keep coming back to get regulars. Maybe after some time you will be so busy that you will see you can relocate in London