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ParisB

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Re: Major mortgage dilemma
« Reply #15 on: 17 November 2011, 03:09:48 pm »
also if she dosnt have at least 3 years worth of account it wont go through even if you put your name to it    if the mortgage broker is dodgy do you really want to be dealing with him
   
and if you do decided to put your name to it  i suggest that you spend a few hours  looking at exactly what your commiting your self to for the next 25 - 30 years   
Its not as simple as signing it and then forgettng about it   and i think its really unfair of family who get shitty when people to dont want to sign there life away

    if you do go down this way  then i would suggest that you tell your sister  that you want a percentage of the houses equity when its sold,  and it will be done in a legal document by a soliciter ect  ( This will probably put her off anyway)   
    This isnt being shitty or being nasty  after all  your potentially signing up to a lifetime commitment of hell and shit     this is called being smart and not getting taking for a ride 
 
       

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« Reply #16 on: 17 November 2011, 09:11:43 pm »
I am going to add to the chorus who would say 'no thanks' to joining in on that.

While it is true that adding you means that banks will loan more* this is the sort of thing that ends up with people never speaking to each other again. What you would be signing up for is the ability for the bank to chase you for every penny of what they're owed until they get all of it. You would be making so many bets - on the housing market, on the rental market, on her ability to pay - for so little benefit that we could probably get you committed if you did it :)

What about telling her that you can't do it because you are saving for your own place?

* I went through the process earlier this year and the word 'mis-selling' went through my mind several times when it turned out that merely adding someone else earning ?10k meant they'd loan an extra ?60k.
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Re: Major mortgage dilemma
« Reply #17 on: 17 November 2011, 10:22:50 pm »
also  going to add that should  she/ you default at any point and its repossed  then  you  /her are liabable for the shortfall of what is owed /and what its sold for
 
Put simply if you bought it at 200,0ook  but its sold for  130,000  then you will be chased for the remaining 70k for up to 6 years at the very least ,   you wont be able to get a a sweet from a sweet shop,  let alone  credit card  or a loan,  let alone buy another place
and in certain cases it can be up to 12 years that the mortgage companie chases you for,
the only way out not paying is bankruptcy     
its a lot to think about  its not just as simple as putting your name to it and walking away and forgeting about it  its kind of like having a very very expensive  sulky misrable child   

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Re: Major mortgage dilemma
« Reply #18 on: 17 November 2011, 10:44:36 pm »
It's starting to look like it will be easier to just tell her what you do. xx
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« Reply #19 on: 17 November 2011, 11:07:26 pm »
Sorry to hear about your predicament. To me, the deceit is the worst aspect of the job.

Why don't tell your sister you are saving to buy your own property in the next few years?
After all, this may be real possibility for you at some point and signing into this mortgage with your sister is likely to stop you being able to do so.

Look at it this way; Would your sister want you to forget own goals on hold so she can persue hers?

Good luck x

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« Reply #20 on: 18 November 2011, 02:03:03 am »
To me, the deceit is the worst aspect of the job.
The story of my life. 



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Re: Major mortgage dilemma
« Reply #21 on: 18 November 2011, 05:16:31 am »
It's looking like a fake sacking is the way forward! I've worked in employment law, so pm me if you would like help with what "L'Oreal" have said etc etc

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Re: Major mortgage dilemma
« Reply #22 on: 18 November 2011, 10:05:29 am »
I would tell her that until your job is secure (ie: 2 years full employment) then you won't even consider such a huge investment. I would also tell her that she would need to MATCH your investment and be earning the same as you so that you are both 50/50 split with regards to outgoing/incoming on the property.

There's no way that I'd be getting a mortgage with someone earning just 9k, I think it's crazy (of your sister) to even be considering it!

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« Reply #23 on: 19 November 2011, 12:20:16 am »
I really don't think you need to tell her the truth, you just need to say you are really sorry but can't help her out - it sounds like her earnings are quite low to be thinking of a morgage.  in the current market even with your earnings combined she may get refused even with one of those high risk morgage type companies, they dont just throw money at you anymore -and then it's all been for nothing. if she loves you, she will understand why you cant help her... what she's asking is a massive deal and not something she should take lightly. I'd personally never mix family and money issues no matter how well I got on with them or even friends for that matter.  I think it would be really selfish of your sis to just expect you to say yes anyway if shes a mature adult she should totally respect your decision.

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Re: Major mortgage dilemma
« Reply #24 on: 19 November 2011, 02:08:23 am »


The mortgage won't make any difference at all to my own mortgage prospects as its a buy to let.

Au contraire - its viewed by future, potential lenders as just a risky as any other mortgage. I can see how you/your sister  may think otherwise as, in an ideal world, the rental income would be covering the mortgage but this isn't how it works. YOU are liable for the mortgage payments, not the potential tenants and this income isn't guaranteed.

There are very good reasons why your sister can't get this mortgage on her own - It's insanely financially risky!

I know I'm labouring this point, but surely this point alone is giving you a "get out of jail free card" ?

Surely your sister wouldn't want to all but stop you from being able to buy your own home (at least for the next few years), so there's no need to spin more lies such as telling your family you've been sacked from your job. Also, wouldn't the timing look a bit strange and may cause them to get suspicious?

Please don't allow this situation to force you into revealing secrets you would rather keep hidden. There are other ways round this.

I hope all goes well. Be strong xx


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Re: Major mortgage dilemma
« Reply #25 on: 19 November 2011, 05:28:32 pm »
You should go and have a look at the risks of getting a joint mortgage with anyone.  Try money saving expert, they have a forum where you can post and get proper advice form the professionals.

You do know that once you even apply for a mortgage together your credit files are tied together.  When you apply for credit the company will see her name come up in association with yours and they will check her file as well.  So if she ever gets into financial trouble in the future it will reflect on YOU.  So you could be turned down for credit even if the buy to let mortgage is up to date but her credit card payments are not.  If she should ever default in a loan/credit card, the company can apply to the court to turn into a secured loan on the property, which ultimately means you could very well end up paying.  Oh and you will be liable for the tax on the buy to let income as well.

Seriously go get some legal advice.  This isn't as straightforward as she makes it sound.

The best thing to do is to stop thinking of her as being your sister and think of her as a  potential business partner, after all that's what the courts would do.

Jas x