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Rosy

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Starting Out
« on: 28 March 2011, 02:37:26 am »
Hi,

Firstly, I must say this website and forum have been immensely helpful, giving information I hadn't even thought of when I started to think about escorting.

But I have a few worries which are holding me back,

Size and Tattoo's - I'm around a size 14-16 with quite a lot of tattoos, and on most of the sites I've looked at this seems to be abit of a no no in escorting. Would I still be able to make a decent living and get bookings despite this?

Agencies - kinda linked to the above question because I think, to begin with and if I could get with an agency, I would like to go with an agency till I have abit more experience. Do any of you know any reputable agencies within the west yorkshire area, that would allow my attributes?

Lack of Experience - I'm not the most experienced person around, and obviously when considering this line of work it is alittle worrying and makes the whole thing seem abit daunting. Is lack of experience a major problem when starting as an escort? or would it be better to get more experience sexually before starting out?

Family finding out -this is the thing I'm most worried about, which probably isn't surprising. What would be your advice to prevent this from happening if I did start out?

Thanks for reading this and for any answers and advice you can give  :) xx

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Re: Starting Out
« Reply #1 on: 28 March 2011, 08:33:57 am »
The more you differ from their idea of what an escort 'should' look like, the harder it can be to find someone else to market you. Can you find an agency with people like you?

As an independent, it's much much easier if you differ from the norm, because you can go 'look, I'm me and I'm wonderful!' and there will be clients attracted to that. (Think of the clients who like larger women with tattoos - agencies are no good for them either.) Whether that will be enough to make a living depends on a number of factors, including how much you need to live :)

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Re: Starting Out
« Reply #2 on: 28 March 2011, 02:33:19 pm »
Are you just looking around agency sites, or at independent listings too? I don't check out other escorts much, but I think if you look on sites like punterlink, punternet, ukbelles, you should see a fair few women of your size and bigger. And of course there's Pretty Big Escorts (which you might be a bit too small for).

Tattoos are another matter. Escorts who have them often cover them up or edit them out of their advertising pictures because a tattoo can identify you as well as showing you face would. This is something you need to consider. If you're heavily tattooed it's going to be a bit difficult to get that across so that you attract clients who like the look without making yourself easy to identify.

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Re: Starting Out
« Reply #3 on: 28 March 2011, 09:56:09 pm »
I'm not heavily tattooed but do have some large pieces done, I think I would be able to have shots done where most of the tattoo's could be hidden or masked.

I'm am starting to think maybe working as an independent would be more advantageous as I think I would fit more into a niche rather than the sort agencies go for. More of a suicidegirl look lol

Thanks so much for the advice xxx

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Re: Starting Out
« Reply #4 on: 30 March 2011, 01:54:25 pm »
Im in West Yorkshire and know alot of girls that have large or many tattoos and when you look at their pictures there is none but this is because usually with individual pieces they can be recognisable like me for instance I have 2 original tattoos that I could not deny were mine if they were on show but I admit to clients on advertising that I have them and have no problems.  As for size its not an issue I have lost alot of weight since I started escorting but assumed no one would want to see me at a size 12 before I started - very wrong! I now have friends in the business from a size 4 to a size 28! its all about preference if someone likes a girl with more shape then theyre gonna book you over a skinny girl.  The best thing to do is contact some agencies see what they say and if your not happy then go indie and advertise yourself as Alternitive/suicide girl....if you want some recommendations for the area PM me....Georgia x

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Re: Starting Out
« Reply #5 on: 01 April 2011, 02:25:21 am »
I've been looking at some agencies in the area and one of them which I'm looking at applying to wants a photo included in the application. Having read and been given advice on this, I'm not sure how to proceed without giving photographs in which I can be identified.

What do you guys think? what kind of photo would be acceptable to the agency but not show anything which I could be identified with?

Thanks xxx

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Re: Starting Out
« Reply #6 on: 01 April 2011, 07:51:38 am »
What do you guys think? what kind of photo would be acceptable to the agency but not show anything which I could be identified with?

When I was new and naive, I sent off personal pictures that showed my face to one or two agencies when applying, and one agency went right ahead and stuck those photos on their site without even telling me. And all the pictures I sent are still out there, in the hands of God knows who, and it's a bit of an icky thought!

So with all sorts of horror stories in mind, I would recommend sending photos that are edited to hide your face and be covered in subtle but visible watermarking. You can Google "watermark app" to find programs that can do this to your pictures quickly and easily, or if you have Photoshop etc it's a simple case of putting semi-transparent text over your image.

The watermarking stops them from being able to put your pictures on their site. Watermark with a phrase like "do not put this picture on your website" or "this image is NOT for public or commercial use" etc.

You should hide your face because any decent agency will want to meet you (in a safe and public place) to check your looks and attitude - and answer all your questions - and so there's absolutely no need for anyone to risk their safety and privacy by sending identifiable pictures before even having met the agency owner.

Now, I'm pretty sure some agency owners will moan about the above, even if you explain clearly and patiently in your application that you are concerned about discretion. These are probably good people to avoid because a lack of respect for your concerns is a very bad sign. Better to know they think that way in advance!

But any sensible agency owner will be far more interested in a girl who seems smart and capable (remember, all they need is an escort who shows up to all her appointments, cos then they rake in the commission, the agency's rep improves, and everyone's happy), and you want to be working with sensible people. I remember when I was new, I thought agencies seemed so official, like proper businesses(!) with their application forms and fancy websites. But they are illegal operations usually run by some random dude or woman who thinks, "OMG I can totes make loads of cash without even having to suck any peen myself! Awesome" and buys a nice site and puts up a few ads.

So be careful, okay? Get your own persoanl security buddy sorted, too - agencies are not as interested in your safety as they say they are, and will usually value their commission over it. You need to have someone else you can call for support (ideally a fellow working escort who'll really understand) if you end up in a tricky situation.
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Re: Starting Out
« Reply #7 on: 02 May 2011, 02:45:33 pm »
Lack of Experience - I'm not the most experienced person around, and obviously when considering this line of work it is alittle worrying and makes the whole thing seem abit daunting. Is lack of experience a major problem when starting as an escort? or would it be better to get more experience sexually before starting out?

Same question.  :-[

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Re: Starting Out
« Reply #8 on: 02 May 2011, 03:58:40 pm »
I recently started working independently and introduced a friend to the same game, but we thought we'd try and make a start of getting some money by putting up our details up on a big site and just cover our own area. But there just seems to be a bunch of time wasters playing about with making bookings and then not following up or vanishing from the site. Not a good start.

I've not started going out to any agencys as yet, wanted to keep my business to myself.  But what would you say is a good agency to start at in the south east, thats not afraid of women with various sizes.

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Re: Starting Out
« Reply #9 on: 02 May 2011, 04:05:19 pm »
I was not the most experienced woman out there when I started.  It does not matter.  It is your attitude that is the most important.  And don't tell the client as some of them will try to take advantage.  There will be clients who will ask you about your pass, but hey you can make up a back story to suit your escort persona or refuse to talk about it and be all mysterious.

The way I looked at it was  that this was an opportunity for me to try all those things I never got around to trying with my boring boyfriend.  But only those things that I wanted to try.  Do not get talked into doing something that you do not want to do.

If it is  technique you are worried about, don't be.  It seems that men just want someone who is willing.  You can always have a look at some of the Cosmo type sites and magazines if you want to pick up tips and tricks.

I have been in this business for 10 years now and believe it or not it can be pretty repetitive.  So unless you market yourself as a domme or a fetish expert you will most probably (99% of the time) get asked for the same old stuff.  

Jas x

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Re: Starting Out
« Reply #10 on: 02 May 2011, 04:09:21 pm »
Thanks naughtyjas  :)

That's very encouraging and sort of relieving. Hahahaa! And I guess in that respect I'm lucky to have a very open minded boyfriend.

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Re: Starting Out
« Reply #11 on: 02 May 2011, 05:36:42 pm »
The thing is, almost everyone is going to be less experienced than someone who has been an escort for a few months/years. Having sex for a job means that you can get into 10s, 100s, 1000s of partners pretty fast and try lots of new things in a short space of time. So by definition, any new escort is going to be inexperienced compared to established escorts. Thats just how it is. Having a good attitude and knowing where to set your boundaries while at the same time being open to new ideas is the best way to go, I think. I considered myself a slut (in a good way :P) before I became an escort and I'd done some pretty outrageous stuff but from working I've still learned a lot about men, about myself, and my technique has improved massively :P
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Re: Starting Out
« Reply #12 on: 02 May 2011, 06:18:20 pm »
Yes, being good at setting and sticking to your personal boundaries is really the only skill you need to be good at when you start working. :) Oh - and correct condom application and the use of a dab of lube to make sure the latex doesn't tear due to friction!

Sex skills (how to give great handjobs & oral, cowgirl, dirty talking, strip-teases etc etc) are much more easily learned on the job - remember, just because you can make one guy ejaculate doesn't mean the same stuff will necessarily work on the next guy, so get comfy with the idea of asking any client how he likes his BJs/HJs/cowgirl/etc and listening to his suggestions. Also, don't forget, sometimes the client will have little experience of actual sex (he might suggest things he's seen in porn but find that they aren't so hot in real life) so get comfy with experimenting, too. Take it slow and communicate openly - most of the time, a client will find the idea of you enjoying yourself the sexiest of all, so if he hasn't any suggestions and you've done sex/oral/hand stuff to the point of exhaustion, you can always ask if he'd maybe like to watch you put on a hot masturbation show for him.

At the end of the day, as long as you're putting effort in and maintaining a positive attitude, there's really nothing he could complain about. Clients should ask if there's something specific they want; we are not mind readers, nor are we offended by sexual requests (once they've paid!). If in doubt, prompt him to tell you what he'd like. Sometimes, you will get one who seems determined to just lie there watching you silently but I find these guys to be quite fun sometimes - I'll just go all out with a big performance til his time's up. It's nice to not be interrupted sometimes! :P

To touringamy - I'm afraid we can't post any names or links to agencies publicly on this forum, as we do not necessarily want to give support or advertising to them. You may still receive a few helpful PMs, though. And a good way to find out which agencies are popular is to check out the punter review sites - see Google and www.saafe.info for more on those. They'll tell you which agencies have the happiest clients, which *roughly* indicates which ones have the happiest girls and therefore have the least horrid working practices. Still - be careful in your selection!
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