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Jemimna

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Kissing clients
« on: 21 July 2009, 09:55:36 pm »

My friend whos also an escort, tells me she french kisses and also kisses all of her clients as that is what they want and that's why they come back.  I'm soon going to have a Incall place where I can work from. I don't really fancy kissing all of the clients.. unless they have some attraction about them!  I would only probably kiss a client if he was paying me overnight maybe, but not even that ! I don't mind if they were really goodlooking etc.. but I know most will not be. One old client of mine had black bad teeth and I said no, I don't kiss! I just couldn't! 

So my question is... do all men want long kissing sessions ?

anonymoussw

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Re: Kissing clients
« Reply #1 on: 21 July 2009, 10:01:04 pm »
Of course you don't have to kiss, but from a business point of view I believe kissing to be almost crucial. If you don't want to kiss then it kind of gives the impression (in my eyes) that you aren't really into this. Nobody wants to have sex with someone who doesn't want to do it. If I met a client who I couldn't kiss for hygiene reasons, then rather than restrict the kissing, I would (politely) turn them down outright.

But that's just my opinion...
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
"if" - Rudyard Kipling

BurlesqueHoney

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Re: Kissing clients
« Reply #2 on: 21 July 2009, 10:27:31 pm »
Are you sure you are in the right business?  The media tends to show both extremes, the hapless street girls and then the uber glossy Belle de Jour kind of scenario.  The reality is probably somewhere in the middle for most of us and you might have to reflect and reappraise your expectations.  You sound quite young and a bit spoiled, at least the way you present yourself on here.  The most successful ladies get the balance right of being confident and setting clear boundaries of what they are comfortable to offer but also realise that clients want to be pampered and spoilt so really it is about them and not your ego.  After all they are paying I would presume a decent hourly rate to get a personal and generally affectionate service and kissing seems part and parcel of that.  Most clients would expect that from an escort and not kissing is seen akin to more of an old school kind of parlour, pile them high and get them through quick kind of impersonal 'low market' service.

If your attitude you show on this thread is shining through with your clients ? you may find it hard to get nice, decent regular clients.  You may not do too well if you only reserve a good and full service, including kissing to the most attractive clients.  Many of us will try and see something nice and attractive in everyone.  So unless you are marketing yourself at short PSE type of encounters, I would say kissing is a fairly commonly expected part of a meeting by the great majority of clients, certainly for longer bookings.  That said of course you should decide what you feel comfortable with.       

Jemimna

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Re: Kissing clients
« Reply #3 on: 21 July 2009, 10:40:32 pm »
Thankyou for your comments and you for judging me about my ego lol. I have been doing Escorting for 6 months and I would consider myself to be Upscale.  I have done my research and read books esp from one who wrote about her story not Belle de jour.  Not all men want to kiss, some might do, but some will just want the sex!

At the end of the day I'm not doing it 24/7 I'm doing it for extra cash to pay off bills... and enjoy life.  I've never had a problem before. If men would require it, then I would probably do it if they were clean! Would you kiss someone who has black bad teeth ? nah I don't think you would ?!
« Last Edit: 21 July 2009, 10:50:28 pm by Priscilla.vip »

BurlesqueHoney

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Re: Kissing clients
« Reply #4 on: 21 July 2009, 11:07:07 pm »
You obviously edited your first ruder post.  Maybe you are more self aware...

Well, I am 40 and do not feel the need to mention class.  One either has it or not.  The beauty of this industry is that there is a myriad of different preferences for all sorts of ages, ethnic backgrounds and shapes.  However, despite not being an elite VIP super model I get lovely regular clients at a good rate because I make them feel special.  Once you realise it is about fulfilling a fantasy for a client and showing some genuine customer service you build up a great steady circle of regulars.  The industry is full of gorgeous ladies and equally loads and loads of negative FRs of said beautiful women thinking that this is all that is required in this line of business.  Respect begets respect and if you treat gents like walking wallets rated according to a scale of attractiveness in as much you are willing and deigning to do then in turn you will be treated like one of many in a meat market.  The biggest sex organ for many men is actually the brain and if you can engage them in a warm and sensuous manner you will be having a lot of success.  Quite frankly I have seen a number of ladies that have a similar attitude and they tend to be shocked that dumpy lard arses like moi earn the same as them.  Looks are a great asset but do not alone suffice.  So either take on board what others say or throw a hissy fit.  I see on a different thread you stomped your stilettos because Monsieur Punterlink did not kiss your toned derriere.  Instead of getting the facts right you insult him and then get piqued when he returns like for like.  Yes I tend to be outspoken but respect my clients and in turn have in most cases a great experience.  I only judge your comments and attitude displayed on here, like you seemed fit to do to others that were seeking genuine advice rather expecting to be fawned over.     

Jemimna

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Re: Kissing clients
« Reply #5 on: 21 July 2009, 11:11:55 pm »
Sorry but I'm not going to read it all. You judged me in the first place, I did edit my first post, because I put 'high-class' and thought better delete it, as there is a class issue in this country, and it was nothing about 'class' it';s just the high end is called 'high class' you are obviously on here for a bitch! and I'm not.  Bye


anonymoussw

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Re: Kissing clients
« Reply #6 on: 21 July 2009, 11:17:37 pm »
...Not all men want to kiss, some might do, but some will just want the sex!

At the end of the day I'm not doing it 24/7 I'm doing it for extra cash to pay off bills... and enjoy life.  I've never had a problem before. If men would require it, then I would probably do it if they were clean

In my experience, intimacy is one of the most important things my clients want. How can you be intimate with a person without kissing them? Just providing sex rather than an intimate, personal experience is hardly "classy". Treat this like a business. Don't just do the bare minimum to meet there "requirements". Just because he's paid you, doesn't mean he wouldn't prefer it if you did kiss - at this point he just wants to get his end away remember. A couple of hundred quid is nice in your wallet, but the best result is for them to want to come back.

Would you kiss someone who has black bad teeth ? nah I don't think you would ?!

Personally, if I felt there was any reason I couldn't deliver a good service to the best of my abilities, I would politely ask him to leave, because I am not generally happy doing a second rate job.

Thankyou for your comments and you for judging me about my ego lol.

BH may have been a little hard on you, but you have shown yourself to be a little churlish in other threads...

I have done my research and read books esp from one who wrote about her story not Belle de jour.

Did your research include "Pretty Woman" ?

Sorry, I couldn't resist it...
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
"if" - Rudyard Kipling

anonymoussw

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Re: Kissing clients
« Reply #7 on: 21 July 2009, 11:18:41 pm »
Oh. Didn't catch that last post. Oh well. Um... bye?
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
"if" - Rudyard Kipling

BurlesqueHoney

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Re: Kissing clients
« Reply #8 on: 21 July 2009, 11:55:20 pm »
Contrary to what the OP thinks I do not come on here to bitch neither do others as far as I can see.  Yes at times, I am very direct and on a few occasions could have been a lot kinder.  But I care for the forum, as well as its members and especially rate the info section highly.  This is a good place to debate and exchange differing opinions just pointing out when someone is out of order to another lady on a different thread is not bitchy but shows concerns for the feelings of that person.  Same has been pointed out to me and others when we were too harsh.  However, what the OP needs to realise is that this is a business for most of us where we strive to give a good service irrespective of looks that is the whole point of them paying us to make them feel good.  It is nothing short of insulting to deem one?s self as up market above others to somehow big yourself up.  At the end of the day, we are all working in the sex industry and regardless of what price we command we ought to treat our clients with respect.  This is not about one gent having bad teeth but a general attitude!   

And really this is a fairly genteel forum which is lovely and for many represents a respite from more robust boards, so it is quite self defeating to flounce of just because others actually voice a differing opinion.  I would not like to see people driven from a board or experience mobbing.  But here it is a case of tantrums and tiaras and in our line of business we probably need to develop a slightly thicker skin to keep our sanity.  I reckon it is the OP?s loss to leave as rashly as she could have benefited so much from hanging around and actually respecting and taking on board the views and opinions of others.  But it seems from her comments and overall attitude she is accustomed or likes to get her own way.   Besides providing intimate services one of the most draining aspect of our work is actually pampering the ego and trying to make someone else feel good.  Obviously, often we also get spoiled and receive pleasure but we ladies do need to be realistic about the fact that they pay us and at times we kiss a lot of frogs and not everyone will be a prince!   ;D

UrbaneAspects

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Re: Kissing clients
« Reply #9 on: 22 July 2009, 04:02:39 am »
Ok...I just found a weave here, a broken nail there, some smeared make-up...and looks like someone lost their shoe and the heel broke off! Oh my GOSH is that someone's tooth?   :o

ok this isnt fight club LOL, but wow what a beat down! Ok...I have to take 2 sides to this. Honey is right to an extent about services. We offer a service and if someone doesnt want to compliment the service and turns down something as innocuous as kissing, then yeah it can come off as if there's something missing. I cant add on to anymore then what has been said.

But now, poor battered Jemimna is not completely wrong here! In my experience, kissing only makes up a small percentage of my clients. Some need it and like it, others reserve kissing for their wives or husbands...not escorts. I dont know how it is with the ladies, just giving my 2 cents. Judging an escort by whether they kiss or not as being an awful, spoiled, no good son of a $#@%& is quite ridiculous to say the least.

I kiss, but there's also times I want to kiss a client and THEY dont want it. Like I said, its not the be all, end all. Besides there are more germs in the mouth than there are anyplace else. I can see why someone doesnt want to go lip locking every guy they meet and some days Im RELIEVED to go through several clients without having to kiss them. So really, give the girl a break! I think great oral sex makes up for kissing for alot of guys  ;)


UrbaneAspects

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Re: Kissing clients
« Reply #10 on: 22 July 2009, 04:10:02 am »
I believe kissing to be almost crucial. If you don't want to kiss then it kind of gives the impression (in my eyes) that you aren't really into this. Nobody wants to have sex with someone who doesn't want to do it.

Funny...so just because someone doesnt want to kiss doesnt mean they dont want to have sex? Do you french kiss your dog as a way of showing how much you care. Absolutely NOT. I have to disagree 150,000%. As I said, kissing is the strawberry on the cake, not the cake itself. Its not even the icing. A booking isnt incomplete just because one hasnt tounge locked each other.

I offer kissing and still disagree as it being the be all, end all. Thats utterly ridiculous

The biggest sex organ for many men is actually the brain and if you can engage them in a warm and sensuous manner you will be having a lot of success.     

Now thats true. One of the reasons why as male escorts we have to understand that concept!
« Last Edit: 22 July 2009, 04:15:02 am by JoeyR »

brandy@saafe

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Re: Kissing clients
« Reply #11 on: 22 July 2009, 09:35:13 am »
Well, I guess that's the end of that. Sorry to see you've left us Jemimna. You're welcome back anytime, but you do have to grow a bit of a thick skin and I don't just mean on here but as an escort too. It's a hard business.

Violette

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Re: Kissing clients
« Reply #12 on: 22 July 2009, 10:33:01 am »
 :o Bloody hell that left me reeling!
 I am going to try to offer a wee bit of perspective from my side of things. I have done the low-end(window work in Amsterdam)-Mid range, and I have done the Belle de Jour route, and the only difference I find is the expectations of the client, and how you are allowed to manage them. At the end of the day it is about customer service, and managing expectations. The gentlemen who comes to the window have the same needs as the one sitting in the presidential suite at the Amstel Hotel. But the difference I find is your control of the situation shifts. When a guy is paying 50 buck for a quick screw, I can after an allotted time tell him "Time is up, pay more or piss off!" But when your Arab prince has paid you several thousands of euros for the pleasure of your company, and is fat, balding and smelling of garlic, with armed body guards, and Dutch secret service at the door, do you really think I can tell him, I don't kiss! I find something I like about him-fast, and keep that in the forefront of my mind to get me through.
J, if you are playing in the high end of the pond, then your clients will have high end expectations! They are bloody high strung prima donnas, who have every whim catered to and for. When a man is paying 400 pounds for the pleasure of your company for an hour, he doesn't expect to be told no to lots of things. Also, this is why when they are in the bathroom, I gently point out the disposable tooth brushes and mouthwash!
Even if you aren't logged in there is still loads to learn here, so hopefully you will lurk in the back ground and benefit for the good advice here.

UrbaneAspects

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Re: Kissing clients
« Reply #13 on: 22 July 2009, 10:48:06 am »
I find something I like about him-fast

when that doesnt work I search through the downloaded pornos in my brain and play a fantasy, or backtrack to someone I fooled around with, even if it was 3 years ago!

UrbaneAspects

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Re: Kissing clients
« Reply #14 on: 22 July 2009, 10:51:08 am »
So my question is... do all men want long kissing sessions ?

For crying out F-ing loud, no one has answered this poor woman's question! No, all men do NOT want long kissing sessions. Have you ever had a 1 night stand with a guy who wouldnt kiss? Yeah tell me about it