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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: tessab on 09 November 2011, 03:00:34 pm
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Before starting out as an escort, I gleaned a really helpful bit of advice on here that if you can have sex with men you don't find attractive or are gross-looking, this is the job for you. I've been escorting now for five months and this has never been an issue apart from....the kissing. I have a really sensitive palate and nose and the smell and taste in my mouth for days afterwards is really getting to me. Anyone on here refuse to kiss and if so, how do you broach your non-desire for tongue action to a client in a polite way?
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I purposefully do not have kissng or french-kissing listed on my profile. And, I don't advertise as specifically a GFE for that reason. For me, there is nothing more intimate. There has been exactly two clients with whom I snogged and another two whom I kissed, lightly--no matter how urgently their tongues tried to penetrate!!
I can close my eyes and suck or lie back and enjoy being f---ed but I always explain beforehand--if it comes up--that I don't kiss. Yes, for some it's off-putting but even those who love kissing are usually more than happy to get the bang for their buck...as we say...
That being said, there will likely be future clients I'll be happy to snog. But I don't even say it's discretionary for fear of having to explain to someone why they don't rate!
Good luck!
x
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I HATE THE KISSING! It's more intimate than sucking cock, and I also cannot get rid of the taste and smell for days. It's mainly their aftershave, but there's also THEIR smell, which may be pleasant but it's not something I want to smell when eating my dinner three days later....
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Yes!! I couldn't agree more unfortunately :P
The taste of another human beings *very essence* ( sorry to be 'airy fairy, but I can't think of way of putting it more succintly.. ) that lingers long after you have got home, eaten, washed, brushed teeth etc..and lets get this straight, a TOTAL STRANGERS very essence and one that you probably don't desire to kiss..
( Could it be anymore obvious I am currently going through a "really don't know what I'm doing this for anymore.." phase? :-\ )
Having said that, I can count on one hand ( and have three fingers remaining ) the number of times I have done a booking and NOT kissed..It's just odd for me and I have left feeling quite cold towards the client..I can self-analysize exactly what that is all about too.. :(
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Do most of your clients insist on kissing? Do you think it's one of the key services to the job or is it just the mouth equivalent of OW or no anal?
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I think if you describe yourself as offering a full girlfriend experience as I do, then it is expected and I am often asked to confirm I am happy to kiss when they book.
Though this is just one bit of my marketing and I definately think it isn't a vital service to provide.
I'm guessing it is more rare than common really.
The willingness to provide a happy blow/handjob and be sexually/sensually responsive is probably the only real necessity to work constantly in this line of work.. ;)
Edited to correct sensually unresponsive laptop keys >:(
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how do you broach your non-desire for tongue action to a client in a polite way?
don't open my mouth wide enough for them to stick their tongue in it!
I do kissing, I couldn't really imagine not doing it, but I offer GFE, and a very intimate GFE at that.... I don't mind it so long as it doesn't go on and on and on....then I usually migrate down south and use my mouth for something else for a while.
I really dislike full-on dishwasher style tongue action, even in my personal life! But I'll still do it if that's what the guy likes
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how do you broach your non-desire for tongue action to a client in a polite way?
don't open my mouth wide enough for them to stick their tongue in it!
I do kissing, I couldn't really imagine not doing it, but I offer GFE, and a very intimate GFE at that.... I don't mind it so long as it doesn't go on and on and on....then I usually migrate down south and use my mouth for something else for a while.
I really dislike full-on dishwasher style tongue action, even in my personal life! But I'll still do it if that's what the guy likes
I'm exactly like this. I don't mind kissing at all...but if I don't fancy tonsil tennis I just don't open my mouth wide enough!
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Yes - kissing is one thing; having your teeth and tonsils diligently cleaned carwash-style with someone else's tongue is quite another. Or there's the thing where they just sort of hover over you with their mouth open so their saliva runs directly into your mouth - to me that feels like being spat on, in a way, so I don't like it. :-\ In my 'real' life, I only like gentle kissing with tentative tongues so of course I don't understand why a stranger would want to lick the back of my throat, but it's a must-do service if you offer a GFE so I'm happy to go along with it for work. It did take me some time to learn to stifle the natural reaction, though, but I'm glad I can now. And if it all gets too much (like if they clamp their mouth on yours during mish so that - combined with their bodyweight on you - you absolutely cannot breathe at all!!) you can just push them gently away with a naughty smile and tell them there's something else you'd really love to put in your mouth. :P
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I also do GFE, I've also always included kissing. I agree...kissing is on-par with cum in mouth, which I don't offer. The main issues I have with it are people with really wet mouths. \
And people who don't french-kiss but sort of lick my lips and the inside of my lips and my teeth and tongue. Does anyone else get this too?
It really hasn't been overwhelming in the past. Only recently...all three of the individuals I see on a regular basis/longer bookings like doing this.
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Yes - kissing is one thing; having your teeth and tonsils diligently cleaned carwash-style with someone else's tongue is quite another. Or there's the thing where they just sort of hover over you with their mouth open so their saliva runs directly into your mouth - to me that feels like being spat on, in a way, so I don't like it. :-\ In my 'real' life, I only like gentle kissing with tentative tongues so of course I don't understand why a stranger would want to lick the back of my throat, but it's a must-do service if you offer a GFE so I'm happy to go along with it for work. It did take me some time to learn to stifle the natural reaction, though, but I'm glad I can now. And if it all gets too much (like if they clamp their mouth on yours during mish so that - combined with their bodyweight on you - you absolutely cannot breathe at all!!) you can just push them gently away with a naughty smile and tell them there's something else you'd really love to put in your mouth. :P
YES! I hate guys that actually dribble their saliver into your mouth - it's disgusting.
I do offer kissing, but can usually muddle my way out of it if he's...not pleasant. Despite offering GFE, some guys like to get straight down to business with none of the kissing and cuddling, which is fine by me ;D
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I find not snogging far more clinical and I don't like taking bookings where I don't kiss. On the rare ocassion that a client has refused kissing, I've wondered if I'm, you know... ugly or my breath smells lol. But I've learned ways out of getting out of the washing machine tongue action jobs that make it seem like I'm oh so driven with lust that my mouth and hands have to be on other parts of his body. I am always the first to initiate snogging - but I market myself as being a bit of a cocky sod with a swagger so its part of my character really. In my experience, I find that men are so used to being the 'aggressor' sexually that when the tables are turned and a woman is taking complete charge of the scene from the off, they tend to go along with whatever you want. Or maybe I just vet well/attract the type of clients best suited to me. YMMV. Sometimes I find that they want the genuine intimacy due to their own loneliness/other issues, and given I'm single, it doesn't feel much more different than snogging someone in a bar. Except I'm paid in pounds sterling, not vodka shots. Saying that though, I don't see anyone older than my dad as I just couldn't be ok with that. So I mostly spend my time snogging men in their forties - maybe if you added a generation on top my response would be different!
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The only jobs I find difficult are the ones where there is no kissing. Far to clinical without. Bring on the snogging!
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Kissing for me is very intimate. In saying that before I got with my fiance I was a bit of a erm....slut basically Lol. I would snog the face of any guy I met on a night out. However, I am extremely health conscious and germ phobic and detest wet mouths and smelly breath and furry tounges. I can count on one hand the amount of guys I have actually kissed, albeit very gently. I agree that sex without kissing is clinical (maybe) but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I have no problems with being fucked and with sucking cock for hours on end but I just find kissing too yuck for want of a better word. It's the same for me with OWO, NEVER! And weirdly I really dislike guys playing with my nipples. Some I don't mind, others are far too rough. RO (reverse oral) is another one. What's the need to spit great big blobs of spit all over my nice clean shaven vagina. And then proceed to push all your nasty wet germs inside me with your fingers. Uuuggghh. I think I too am having a day where I'm thinking what the fuck am I doing?! LOL. Natalie Xx
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Yukky, just so much of the time.
I usually try to avoid totally.
Occasionally I get a really yummy client where I feel an extra connection...
and I really love it.
But mostly, no.
And the insistent/desperate needy kissers, usually involving the clasping of the back of my head
(let go!) well they are usually totally rubbish at it.
I blame their partner for not teaching them how to do it properly.
I was gonna post a thread on this exact subject but you beat me to it. :-\
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Yes I have mixed feelings on this. I LOVE kissing the clients who know what they are doing and where there is some kind of connection going on. But there are some who just have no clue - as I offer GFE its pretty much essential that I do it, but I try and find distractions for the clueless ones!!
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If they ask when booking about kissing I say I do if you have nice teeth & fresh breath. Cos I would have freshly cleaned my teeth before an appointment & so should they. There is nothing worse than seeing someone who you can tell wot he had for lunch cos it's still in his teeth!!!!!! Yeuk!!
I do luv a gud snogging session tho' it really turns me on & gets me in the mood if they are a gud kisser.
xxu
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I really really do not like kissing clients, I feel guilty that I am SO turned off by the idea, but I just do NOT enjoy it.
There are one or two who I will lightly peck, with my lips firmly clamped shot, in fact I have lost booknigs as the man in question wanted to indule in a MAJOR tongue fest..all that spittle flying around, all that drool..no thanks.
I like my kisses to be soft, teasing, so no deep French kissing for or from me.urghhhhhh!
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I do luv a gud snogging session tho' it really turns me on & gets me in the mood if they are a gud kisser.
xxu
I agree nothing turns me on more than a good kisser! I find it really hard going if a guy doesn't want to kiss or is a terrivle kisser
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... Cos I would have freshly cleaned my teeth before an appointment & so should they.
This is something you SHOULD NEVER DO immediately prior to a booking ........... especially if you are planning on performing OWO.
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I kiss, have no problems with it. I close my eyes and think of johnny drop or kitty miski off aw LOL
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... Cos I would have freshly cleaned my teeth before an appointment & so should they.
This is something you SHOULD NEVER DO immediately prior to a booking ........... especially if you are planning on performing OWO.
Absolutely.
Use a mouth wash instead.
Ensure it is Alcohol-free as Alcohol can irritate gums
leading to bleeding and thereby an STI infection route.
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I only recently started kissing clients, having worked in a working flat (menus/extras etc.), but after a while after becoming indie, it kind of occurred to me that if I'm offering a GFE, if I don't kiss, then I'm sort of breaking the trade descriptions act by not doing it.
If I get a client who I couldn't bear kissing, I just sort of give little pecks around the mouth and brush my lips against their's, and kiss the neck, and a soft breath into the ear etc, and am cool with kissing the rest of the body (but only the penis if it has a condom on it_ owo, no way.)
Other clients who don't turn me off, I will kiss full on the lips, but no snogging, but I may lightly lick their lips, and nip a little with my teeth.
If I properly fancy a client, I'll happily lock lips, I just don't like 'deep' french kissing and don't kiss this way in real life, so if they are a little too 'cement mixer' I pull back, stroke their lips and ask them (in my sexiest huskiest voice ;D) if they would like me to show them how I love to be kissed, and they've always responded really well to that.
Beware though, recently I kissed a client after lifting the 'no kissing ban', and BAM, feelings. He'd been my client for 9 months, and nothing (I liked him of course) until that kiss.
Bloody hormones. >:(
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[...] I just don't like 'deep' french kissing and don't kiss this way in real life, so if they are a little too 'cement mixer' I pull back, stroke their lips and ask them (in my sexiest huskiest voice ;D) if they would like me to show them how I love to be kissed, and they've always responded really well to that.
Really?? That's brilliant news, if so! I've always refrained from saying anything to cement-mixer-kissers, fearing that there was no point because they maybe wouldn't be able to change their kissing habits? But if you say that they can, indeed, cease cleaning my mouth with their tongue, with proper instruction... that's very exciting news indeed! ;D
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Why, thankyou ma'am!
You're also helping them to be better lovers!
We should hold kissing workshops! ;D
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I'm also in the camp of sometimes finding it uncomfortable, I think it's because kissing can be much more intimate and affectionate, in some ways, than full blown. I can understand why but, at the same time, it's strange!