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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: MKX on 17 September 2019, 03:58:31 pm
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Who’s bright idea was it to start to offer full on tongue kissing in a service at no extra cost?
All I get now are guys who want to French kiss. I don’t want to kiss them, I don’t want a strangers tongue in my mouth followed by a nasty cold virus or sickness bug.
Unfortunately soon as you tell them you don’t do it then off they go.
For gods sake if we’re going to exchange saliva then why not charge extra.
Working ladies never offered this freely years ago.
Desperation and greed has ruined this industry.
Men shouldn’t be allowed to dictate, it should be up to us.
They just think they can walk all over us now.
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I don't want to receive oral from punters nor perform unprotected oral on them, so I don't. What other sex workers do is up to them, doesn't affect me one way or the other and is none of my business - there will always be people offering different services and it's not a competition.
If you don't want to do kissing and it makes you uncomfortable then make this clear on your ads, and don't :).
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I only offer minimal French kissing and that is not for smokers whatsoever and only in small amounts for those with clean fresh breath.
Most of the time their breath is not fresh or they don't expect any.
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I really don't mind kissing the good looking guys who are fresh shaved but I hate beards and bad breath. I often just limit it rather than full on French kissing. Many do not want alot of kissing either .
Some of them want me to wear lipstick not a problem but then they kiss it's all over them lol.
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I don't provide kissing, not an issue.
I charge extra for as many things as possible though. ;)
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Kissing someone I don't find attractive makes me sick, I won't do it. It is too intimate for me and I only enjoy it with men in my personal life or those few who are hot. I don't even like being kissed on the neck, you can just feel them making their way up 'by mistake'...NO!
I can take or leave other things but I just won't offer this because I don't want the awkwardness of turning someone down who is manky but has no clue how gross they are. Fair play to those ladies who do it!
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I’m not desperate. Nor greedy.
And no man has ever or will ever dictate to me the services I provide / don’t provide.
In a gfe booking I’ll let the client initiate kissing. I find sessions where they don’t and therefore we don’t kiss throughout, a tad more awkward. I don’t know how we warm up otherwise, or where to look half the time, just intense eye contact is not for me thanks.
Especially if they’re a dead body client, or chatting shit client - fill the time with some lip to lip shut eye, maybe a quick power nap while I’m at it. Lol !
Xx
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Conversely, I don't see how you can offer a GFE without kissing? It's surely the no.1 foreplay activity, and a lot of men (and women) say it's what gets them going. When you find a good kisser, it can be amazing. I just limit/control the amount depending on their oral hygiene, scratchy beard etc., but I'm certainly not getting any more colds or other infections than I was before escorting (commuting on trains/buses and working in open-plan offices was far worse for that).
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It is not up to clients to dictate what services we offer but neither is it for other sex workers to dictate what we do and what we charge.
When I started up sex work I certainly was not greedy and offered services that I felt happy to offer and that I felt were appropriate for the GFE I offered and to me kissing is part of a GFE.I personally didn't charge extra because for me it felt like a fairly basic thing to do within the type of service I offered simple as that.
I also didn't see a correlation with getting more colds anymore than you would by just sharing any space with anybody.I also wouldn't be snogging anyone that obviously had a cold.
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I would find it weird as hell not to kiss!!
cant really say i can be a gfe if i didnt kiss....
AND no im not "desprate or greedy " as you have just called wgs who offer this. seriously a low blow at other wgs.
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As you said in your post OP 'it is up to us'.It certainly is,that's why some ladies choose to charge extra for lots of things and some of us prefer a more inclusive price.
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Conversely, I don't see how you can offer a GFE without kissing?
People manage to do so. They tend to make it clear up front that it's not something they offer.
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I can see this heading in the same direction as the 'murdering bugs' thread ???
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Who’s bright idea was it to start to offer full on tongue kissing in a service at no extra cost?
All I get now are guys who want to French kiss. I don’t want to kiss them, I don’t want a strangers tongue in my mouth followed by a nasty cold virus or sickness bug.
Unfortunately soon as you tell them you don’t do it then off they go.
For gods sake if we’re going to exchange saliva then why not charge extra.
Working ladies never offered this freely years ago.
Desperation and greed has ruined this industry.
Men shouldn’t be allowed to dictate, it should be up to us.
They just think they can walk all over us now.
I hear you.
I hate kissing.
It was never in a normal service then some started offering it for extra money and now it is in with the price for most.
Times change and more gets offered for less like every industry and the more competition more prices go down and more gets done.
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I can see this heading in the same direction as the 'murdering bugs' thread ???
Quite *nods*.
To me, kissing IS a part of the GF experience & I do offer that. Very rarely I get someone who doesn't want kissing & I honestly feel like I've lost a limb, bc it's such an integral part of what I do & how I incorporate it into the session.
As far as being attracted to them, I mean, my emotional thermostat is on zero anyway with these guys, so it doesn't matter. If they need a swig of mouthwash by god, I'll tell them.
My personal feeling is you can't truly be GFE if you don't offer kissing, but that's just my opinion.
*waits to be bashed about*
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People manage to do so. They tend to make it clear up front that it's not something they offer.
I get not kissing per se, just think it would be slightly odd to omit it if you marketed yourself as offering a GFE.
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I'm thinking of removing French Kissing from my services.You can still provide a lovely GFE without
tongues right?
I see someone several times a year who, halfway through the booking starts to ram his tongue down my throat. :-X
He's fine up to that point and I think he gets off on the fact I very obviously hate it.
I turn my head away and clam my lips shut.
He gets away with this because he's fine at the start then, like clockwork the ramming begins (always when I am pinned under him)
Yes.. I know... :-\
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I don’t mind kissing gently on mouth or body but I will not take
a clients tongue or their saliva in my mouth.
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I get not kissing per se, just think it would be slightly odd to omit it if you marketed yourself as offering a GFE.
Only if you think 'GFE' should be treated like a list of services with tick boxes next to them, rather than a general way of conducting bookings in a warm, affectionate and gentle way as opposed to a lot of very high octane and very overt 'porno' stuff that most would call a PSE. I don"t think this, so I don't think it's that odd.
I've done a booking this afternoon with no kissing on the mouth (because the punter didn't want it) and it was every bit a GFE, mostly because I have no idea how to do anything else :)
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I find the term GFE quite funny because most punters probably think it should involve kissing but most of the ones cheating are trying to escape there wives and girlfriends sexual performance and get more. Maybe the term GFE should mean you get nothing but moaned at told no sex tonight i am too tired ;D
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Maybe the term GFE should mean you get nothing but moaned at told no sex tonight i am too tired ;D
LOL
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Maybe the term GFE should mean you get nothing but moaned at told no sex tonight i am too tired ;D
That’s the “wife experience” add nagging add eternal headache LMAO