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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: AngelEyes on 03 December 2009, 12:19:32 am
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Hiya ,
Im new on here. I worked as an escort a few years ago for a friends agency but then tooka break and went to college. Trying to get back into escorting and proving to be anightmare.
So far all the agencie sI have tired so far have bene rude saying they want pse..toned honed page 3 size 6 with no blemishes.
Hmmmmm okay re my scam question. has anyone heard of classyescort girls? they got back to me and seemed intersted in my photos asked me sot sne dmore. They ahve rung me to aks questions and for statistic. But they want me to pay 300 pounds for a photoshoot.
I know it says on here thye cana sk money for photos and they do ahve a website up and running. but I am still sceptical? Seems like a ot of money when they are going to take comissiona and Ihave had cheaper quotes elsewhere
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'Classy Escort Girls' is the offshoot-they-didn't-want-us-to-notice of the deeply dubious 'Escort Agency Jobs', a fake advice board for agency workers designed to point new ladies towards their operation (as described here (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=1493.0)).
I can't post a link to the original because it was soon taken down, but ?300 for photos is a total rip off, which they have probably told you it is for after reading on here that this might be a way to get money out of people, and I would give it a VERY wide berth.
If you want to find a proper agency there are plenty listed on the main directories, or try Google. Just apply the same criteria as described in Scam Agencies thread and you shouldn't go far wrong.
Welcome to SAAFE!
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What Amy said,
Also one thing you could do if a company wants you to do a photoshoot through them is to tell them you have your own professional photos, which you would like to use. If they are genuine they should be happy to use them for your profile, jf they insist on you do thier photo shoot I would be careful.
Welcome and good luck.
xx
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I found an agency called perfect partners through parttimejobs-uk.com, and they have taken a few of my details as well as some photographs, and require a registration yearly fee of ?299. Now that is a lot of money for me, apparently I have a booking set up which will earn me ?600, but in order to do this I have to part with my money first, 24 hours before the booking.
I am dubious as so far I have tried to gain some written advice and reassurance, however my emails have been replied to with "it'll be better if I phone you".
They do sound very professional, byt the testimonials on their site can be found at other agency sites. I have asked for a registered business number and some written reasurrance but the booking is for tomorrow and I am due to pay today.
Do I part with my money with the prosppect of earning the easiest ?600 of my life? Or do I proceed with caution and miss out on what might be a great opportunity?
Help!
x x
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I found an agency called perfect partners through parttimejobs-uk.com, and they have taken a few of my details as well as some photographs, and require a registration yearly fee of ?299. Now that is a lot of money for me, apparently I have a booking set up which will earn me ?600, but in order to do this I have to part with my money first, 24 hours before the booking.
I am dubious as so far I have tried to gain some written advice and reassurance, however my emails have been replied to with "it'll be better if I phone you".
They do sound very professional, byt the testimonials on their site can be found at other agency sites. I have asked for a registered business number and some written reasurrance but the booking is for tomorrow and I am due to pay today.
Do I part with my money with the prosppect of earning the easiest ?600 of my life? Or do I proceed with caution and miss out on what might be a great opportunity?
Help!
x x
It isn't great opportunity, and you won't earn ?600. You will lose ?299, which is a lot of money by anybody's standards, particuarly when you may as well set fire to it.
Read this (http://www.saafe.info/scam_agency.html), and this (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=385.0).
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What Amy said. Run like the wind unless you want to be parted from ?299 forever.
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Just looking at the contact details in the terms for that part-time jobs site, he can?t even remember his name by the end of the paragraph.
Secondly, as you say they wont put anything in writing, so what happens if you do ignore everybody here and pay, your shafted, as you can?t prove anything was ever said.
Just reading of other scam organisations that operate in EXACTLY the same way, why do you feel this could be any different?
And to finish my annual post Why not suggest if this client really wants you, they take your fee out of the commission, and see how many excuses they give you why they cant, ill bet they have at least 5.
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Many of the scam agencies advertise under many different name, so the testemonials could all be from the same company.
Tell them you can't afford it and if they want they can take the ?299 fee from the booking. I bet you the ?299 that they will tell you that is not possible = SCAM!!! (Oops, sorry Anjali, just notice you already said that)
As everyone has said to every enqiury of this nature: If the agency want money up front and guarantee you a booking before you have even been signed they are a scam
Escorting is not a quick money spinner, it is a serious business in a competitive market and no-one can guarantee bookings like that!
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I emailed to ask for the registered business number and confirmation in writing as I'm aware that the dealings so far have been by telephone and kim the "agent" has been incredibly reluctant to write anything in an email.
I have alarm bells going off so thank you for confirming my concerns.....I think I will keep hold of my ?299. Are there any professional escort agencies out there at all?
x x x
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These have been posted before, but I haven't got the time to search for the threads and have them bookmarked. You can use these sites to check up on businesses
http://www.alexa.com/ (http://www.alexa.com/)
http://domains.whois.com/domain.php?action=whois (http://domains.whois.com/domain.php?action=whois)
As said acid test is to ask them to take the fee from your first booking.
Again check some of the other threads on here and the main site for agencies or how to find them, as this question has been asked many times before and it also depends on your area.
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Are there any professional escort agencies out there at all?
Oh lots. Have a look on the various 'punting' websites to see who is advertised / being reviewed on them.
This does not guarantee they will be interested in having you join them, and many do have an extremely narrow view of what a successful escort looks like. (Or perhaps, a realistic view of their own inability to market properly someone who doesn't fit their own stereotypes.) But given that you have experience it should not be impossible to find somewhere if you want to work for an agency.
I emailed to ask for the registered business number and confirmation in writing as I'm aware that the dealings so far have been by telephone and kim the "agent" has been incredibly reluctant to write anything in an email.
This is not the test of being a scam or not. There are loads of genuine agencies which are not registered companies, for example. This is not surprising, as the people running agencies are behaving illegally, controlling prostitution for gain.
What genuine agencies do not do is demand money from prospective staff before they have cash in their hand from a client. This lot did and it proves, despite everything else that they said, that they are a scam.
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I used your suggestion...I said that I would be happy to proceed if the ?600 booking fee contributed to the registration fee...the client pays the agency ?299 and gives me the rest in cash.....I will keep you updated for a response, but their response to my previous email was this:
I have received your email. I am very worried can you please contact me asap.
I do need to speak to you on the phone. Please let me know a convenient time.
Regards Kim
I also had a voicemail saying they were worried that they would have to find someone else for the booking - funny that they are more concerned with the booking than addressing my concerns.....I have no confidence in them whatsoever!
x x x
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By the way to be legal escort agencies are actually 'employed' by the Escort otherwise they would be prosecuted for pimping. So on this basis the agent is in your employ and should be doing everything they can to get you what you want - i.e. obtain and get you to a booking, I would suggest pointing this out to them since they working this as if you are the employee and henceforth are commiting a crime...........
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By the way to be legal escort agencies are actually 'employed' by the Escort otherwise they would be prosecuted for pimping.
Not true, I'm afraid.
What stops more people running agencies being prosecuted for controlling prostitution for gain is that the police have better things to do with their time.
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Sorry I should have qualified that a little better. Agents will often quote that line themselves and of course other employment agencies do not charge fees upfront - it's up to them to do the promotion before they get their pay.
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Hello,
Thank you very much ladies! Thats what i thought .......... 300 pounds way too much and a rip off!
Do you think i should give up on the agency and set up independenty?
I did look in google as suggested and classy escort girs is what i got plus a few others. the others have alll been plain rude to me..........
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If you google for escort agencies in your county or area you should find a selection of reputable agents.
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Or look on punterlink and punternet.
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Its all been said here any agency who asks for money upfront is a SCAM!! I almost fell prey to 2 similar agencies myself before I became indie it was a good thing alarm bells were ringing at that time. After payment they can always come back and say the booking has been cancelled and then you probably will never get a booking ever.
Some good Agencies out there will pay for your photo shoot and then take it out of your first job.
x
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hello,
Thank you all ladies! You really woud not think that classy escort girls is just an advice board. They seem like such a genuine agency with a proper website and phone number. Just goes to show you cannot ever be too careful.
In hindsight , having taken my details over phone he did go on about the money several times. The last comment being wel i'l leave up to you to see if you can get the money together or not.
So I wont be haning over the 300 pounds!
By the way reagrding the suggestion of google, I did use google and classy escort girls came up on there. All the other agencies so far have been very rude to me. I think soemthing to do with stereotypes as mentioned.
so has any one got any suggestions? this wasn't such hard work when i did this before ........
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Thank you all ladies! You really woud not think that classy escort girls is just an advice board. They seem like such a genuine agency with a proper website and phone number. Just goes to show you cannot ever be too careful.
Where do you get that idea from - they have nothing to do with advice - they are pure and simply a scam - end of story.
By the way reagrding the suggestion of google, I did use google and classy escort girls came up on there. All the other agencies so far have been very rude to me. I think soemthing to do with stereotypes as mentioned.
Sorry, but I think we have given you all the advice we can regarding searching for agencies, remember most of us are indies. You will just have to keep trying and use your own judgement, at the end of the day we can't do it for you.
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Thank you all ladies! You really woud not think that classy escort girls is just an advice board. They seem like such a genuine agency with a proper website and phone number. Just goes to show you cannot ever be too careful.
Where do you get that idea from - they have nothing to do with advice - they are pure and simply a scam - end of story.
I think Beebuzz is referring to 'EscortAgencyJobs.com', which is the now-defunct fake advice site which I mentioned in an earlier post - this was designed to drive unwary wannabes to their agency site - none other than you-guessed-it. Just a misunderstanding, although it could have been avoided by reading the post a bit more carefully.
By the way reagrding the suggestion of google, I did use google and classy escort girls came up on there. All the other agencies so far have been very rude to me. I think soemthing to do with stereotypes as mentioned.
Sorry, but I think we have given you all the advice we can regarding searching for agencies, remember most of us are indies. You will just have to keep trying and use your own judgement, at the end of the day we can't do it for you.
She has a point. We can offer advice but we can't do it all for you, particularly when we have no idea of where you are, how old you are or anything else about you. Have you read through the main site at all? I googled 'escort agency' and got stacks of reputable places (almost exclusively in London, but if you are in a different area, just put in the name of your town/area as well). Many will have online application forms if you are having trouble with them on the phone. We have also already suggested Punterlink and Punternet - try them too; you have more than enough information from this thread alone to put in a bit of the legwork yourself.
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I think Beebuzz is referring to 'EscortAgencyJobs.com', which is the now-defunct fake advice site which I mentioned in an earlier post - this was designed to drive unwary wannabes to their agency site - none other than you-guessed-it. Just a misunderstanding, although it could have been avoided by reading the post a bit more carefully.
Oops, re-read your post regarding the link, I see the connection now.
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Hi all,
was not referring to escort agency jobs.com! And Im also sorry if I offended anyone ...........I wasnt expecting you al to do the work for me lol. I just wanted some advice as have been out of the game for a while.
Anyway you will all be pleased to know that I ued the punterlink website .......I put in the legwork got off my butt and have founf agenune agency that wants me to start on Monday.
And aplogies to Anika Mae about the punterlink.......... I did not see your suggestion until I checked back in just now. So sorry for creating a new thread etc etc.
My apologies to you all.
I would ike to ask one last question if I may. I have a few stretch marks........... is that ikely to be an issue? It nevr ahs been before but times have changed..........
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and before anyone say anything just saw my post and all the bad typing...............yeah i was tired when I wrote that............didnt do a proper check through.
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No need to apologise Beebuzz, I was not offended and I don't think anyone else was, but also couldn't think of any more advice to give.
None of my clients have a problem with stretch marks, but I am an indie and my clients know they are getting a real woman not a dream with a perfect body. I'm not sure if agency clients have other expectations.I would also think it might depend on what the other girls on the agencies books look like?
I am glad to hear that you have found an agency and lots of luck for Monday. Let us know how it went.
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Hello,
Well i feel like I got told off for wasti ng threads lol and that maybe I gave the impression i expected every one here to do the work.
However , in previous posts I would like to point out that i did say I had sent many emails to varying agencies so i am retracting statement about getting off my butt.
I would love to be an indie but am not ready for that yet........i couldnt take incalls at the moment so woud be no point!
Thanks for info on stretchmarks. The agency has said that they wi collect me on Monday and let me start that night. No money s bene asked for upfront and i dont have pictures on website. Plus the pictures i snet them are far from perfect so fingers crosses.
All the other girls look norma healthy and not toned honed page 3 thank goodness.
Ps obviousy theonly perosn that can romote and sel ymself is me ha ha ha
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I found an agency called perfect partners through parttimejobs-uk.com, and they have taken a few of my details as well as some photographs, and require a registration yearly fee of ?299. Now that is a lot of money for me, apparently I have a booking set up which will earn me ?600, but in order to do this I have to part with my money first, 24 hours before the booking.
I am dubious as so far I have tried to gain some written advice and reassurance, however my emails have been replied to with "it'll be better if I phone you".
They do sound very professional, byt the testimonials on their site can be found at other agency sites. I have asked for a registered business number and some written reasurrance but the booking is for tomorrow and I am due to pay today.
Do I part with my money with the prosppect of earning the easiest ?600 of my life? Or do I proceed with caution and miss out on what might be a great opportunity?
Help!
x x girls stay well away of these people...its a scam ive been done back in april and have done a lot of reserch and now know how to spot them..get in touch and bi will tell you how that goes to all the girls....t
It isn't great opportunity, and you won't earn ?600. You will lose ?299, which is a lot of money by anybody's standards, particuarly when you may as well set fire to it.
Read this (http://www.saafe.info/scam_agency.html), and this (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=385.0).
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