Quote from: MissKylie on 01 December 2012, 07:31:53 pm

I don't understand how anyone can be so stupid and risk their lives and other people's for cash or for abit of fun. Makes me sick to my stomach.

can you catch it via OWO?

I think there is a very small risk but it's no where near as high as having multiple guys spunk in you bareback.

"The Prime Minister has said too many people are not educated about HIV and Aids, and almost 25,000 people who have the human immunodeficiency virus are not aware they have been infected." .. This is aimed at Gay men mainly, so is it good news.

I'm not entirely sure how this is good news, but...

They affected mostly compared to the rest of population groups. 

Yes, the infection rate is higher amongst gay men than most other groups, but I'm going to go..

In other words no gay men see women escorts.

'Ha, ha, ha' at that bit. About one in ten gay-identified men is sexual with a woman in any year. There is a high acceptance of paying for sex in the gay community. I'm not sure what the number is, but it's not none.

Part of the issue in talking about this is the difference between desire, behaviour and identity. There are straight identified people who have same-sex desire. There are gay men and lesbians who are bisexually behaved. And there are monogamous bisexuals. Etc etc etc.

When it comes to HIV figures, what happens is that on diagnosis, a guess is made as to the cause of infection, based on the patient's disclosed history.

So a man who reports unprotected sex with say tens of women and unprotected receptive anal sex with one man is very likely to be placed in the 'via sex between men' category, unless there's evidence that the male partner wasn't HIV+ and at least one of the women were.

At no point are they asked about their sexual identity (or, if they are, it's not recorded in the official figures). The HPA reports it as 'sex between men', and the media talks about 'gay' or 'gay and bisexual men'... because we are expected to think that only gay and bisexual identified men are sexual with other men.

This sure has got me thinking about the risk it could be higher than I expected. Does this mean we as escorts are put at more risk knowing this.

No. You're more at risk not knowing it.

(For anyone wondering, one source of the 25,000 figure is anonymous testing of blood given for other reasons - as that shows a higher infection rate than the number of actual diagnoses, we know that there are some people who are HIV+ but don't know it. Another source comes from looking at the immune systems of people who are recently diagnosed, and using that to estimate how long ago they were infected.)

I have a few married clients who like go to gay saunas and have sex with guys (bb or protected that I don't know). What i know is that they're doing it bb with the wife...

I don't understand how anyone can be so stupid and risk their lives and other people's for cash or for abit of fun.

Look at the numbers who smoke.

Smoking has always killed more gay men than HIV, for example.

exactly-I don't worry about HIV at all.I do covered sex and oral and if a comdom breaks I just go and get tested to be sure but I don't get scared about it.If a comdom broke with a bisexual man/drug user/someone from a high risk country or during anal I would just go to the hospital and ask for PEP.I'd be worried if I'd been doing bareback for the last year but yeah,there are so many other things that you're more likely to die of lol.And if I did owo I'd be far more worried about herpes

This is aimed at Gay men mainly, so is it good news. They affected mostly compared to the rest of population groups.
In other words no gay men see women escorts.

Ha Ha Ha!
They would call themselves straight. (Fucking you is their validation (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/wink.gif))

A 'Straight' man's thoughts about gay sex:
"I'm not gay if:"
--I'm the active partner
--I don't swallow
--They're wearing a dress
--I immediately go home and fuck my wife
--We don't kiss
--There's a woman present (even if only on a dvd...)
--I cross my fingers
--I visit meetingdiversity for Pay-Sex, the next day
--They support the same football team as me
--I'm only doing it to prove I don't like it.
--I've watched 'Die Hard' in the last 24 hours
--I didn't move it once it was in.

Quentin Tarantino made a movie which basically shows that straight men are actually gay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfbjUmG8zGk

{Just assume they're all gay and you'll be fine.  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/wink.gif)}        ""Sword fight!""

I do think the previous posts are full of ignorance. There are actually more heterosexuals living with HIV in the UK but gay men have a higher ratio.  And there is a very good chance everyone here has had sex with someone who has HIV. But you are still negative due to the use of condoms. HIV is quite hard to catch compared to other STD's. There are many relationships, where one partner is HIV positive and other negative but after many years there status remains the same. It's all about education.

The funny thing is if we were to tell other people we were escorts, one of the first things they would think  is " Maybe they have HIV" or that we are walking STD's. So we should put ourselves above that. As for Bi  men, I would say at least 90% would never tell a woman they like sex with men, and even then it depends on the individual, whether they practise safe sex or not.


Yes, it scary but that's why we practise safe sex, hazard of the job std's. I am more concern about thing's like herpes and HPV because it's hard to protect yourself from that. We are lucky to be negative and am sure with safe sex we will continue to remain like that.

Quote from: meetingdiversity on 01 December 2012, 03:44:26 pm

"The Prime Minister has said too many people are not educated about HIV and Aids, and almost 25,000 people who have the human immunodeficiency virus are not aware they have been infected." .. This is aimed at Gay men mainly, so is it good news.

I'm not entirely sure how this is good news, but...

Quote from: meetingdiversity on 01 December 2012, 03:44:26 pm

They affected mostly compared to the rest of population groups. 

Yes, the infection rate is higher amongst gay men than most other groups, but I'm going to go..

Quote from: meetingdiversity on 01 December 2012, 03:44:26 pm

In other words no gay men see women escorts.

'Ha, ha, ha' at that bit. About one in ten gay-identified men is sexual with a woman in any year. There is a high acceptance of paying for sex in the gay community. I'm not sure what the number is, but it's not none.

Part of the issue in talking about this is the difference between desire, behaviour and identity. There are straight identified people who have same-sex desire. There are gay men and lesbians who are bisexually behaved. And there are monogamous bisexuals. Etc etc etc.

When it comes to HIV figures, what happens is that on diagnosis, a guess is made as to the cause of infection, based on the patient's disclosed history.

So a man who reports unprotected sex with say tens of women and unprotected receptive anal sex with one man is very likely to be placed in the 'via sex between men' category, unless there's evidence that the male partner wasn't HIV+ and at least one of the women were.

At no point are they asked about their sexual identity (or, if they are, it's not recorded in the official figures). The HPA reports it as 'sex between men', and the media talks about 'gay' or 'gay and bisexual men'... because we are expected to think that only gay and bisexual identified men are sexual with other men.

Quote from: meetingdiversity on 01 December 2012, 03:44:26 pm

This sure has got me thinking about the risk it could be higher than I expected. Does this mean we as escorts are put at more risk knowing this.

No. You're more at risk not knowing it.

(For anyone wondering, one source of the 25,000 figure is anonymous testing of blood given for other reasons - as that shows a higher infection rate than the number of actual diagnoses, we know that there are some people who are HIV+ but don't know it. Another source comes from looking at the immune systems of people who are recently diagnosed, and using that to estimate how long ago they were infected.)

I meant be good news for me as Gay men don't like woman, so thought a lower risk to myself. But know that bisexual men can get through the net. I should be ok because mainly the clients come to see me who are married.