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Gazaro

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Have just experienced stealthing and ejaculation inside
« on: 08 January 2025, 07:05:38 pm »
I have posted a warning in the Warning section, post awaiting approval.
But I also wanted to share my today's experience here in order to warn you, girls, that just checking condom with a hand might not be enough.
I'm usually extremely aware of the 'condom removal' situation, and regularly check if it's there.
Today a client came and asked to have sex in doggy position. I turned around, and heard he was kind of moving the condom. I immediately checked, the condom was there, along all the length. I thought then that he just was pulling it back up as he was constantly losing erection. When we finished, I noticed there was no sperm in the condom and I thought he had pretended the orgasm because he couldn't cum and didn't want to admit it.
When he left, I felt that something was leaking out of me. I checked the condom again thoroughly, and I saw that the very tip was cut off (with the cut piece still there). The hole was about 5mm. So he deliberately did it just to finish inside.
Why would he want to do it? There was not a lot of difference in sensation I think.
Another thing - I'm not sure what to do with him now. I have posted about him here and on CE.
I'm not sure I should write to him about it. It seems to me it will give him some kind of satisfaction.
Will have to check myself for std...

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Re: Have just experienced stealthing and ejaculation inside
« Reply #1 on: 08 January 2025, 08:07:36 pm »
There have not been many convictions yet - I think it's two in England & Wales and one in Scotland - but since 2011, it's been accepted by the courts that stealthing is rape. So you can consider reporting it to the police.



'The Ian formerly known as SW5'. What they said: "Indispensable", "You are our best resource", and (hours later!) "I'm afraid that you're being made redundant..."

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Re: Have just experienced stealthing and ejaculation inside
« Reply #2 on: 08 January 2025, 11:06:24 pm »
I have sent him an article about a man convicted for stealthing, and I might take other steps.
The question is how to prevent such cases. When you check the condom during intercourse, it's all there. It's very difficult to see that this little tip.

Another thing - this guy is in a relationship, was very worried if he didn't have lipstick anywhere around his neck.
Imagine - fucking escorts without protection, and then same with the partner!
I don't know if I will ever be able to trust a man in a relationship and give him sex without.

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« Reply #3 on: 09 January 2025, 10:21:33 am »
How did he get to cut the condom?

When I did that service, I provided the condom, and I put it on the man, and then in doggy, I would check it with my hand as you describe, so how would I have had a chance to damage it?

I never let the men put their own condoms on or off so I could keep control of things and keep track of things

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« Reply #4 on: 09 January 2025, 11:19:45 pm »
I also use my own condoms (3 sizes), and put them on and take off myself. So I put it on, turned with my back to him for doggy, and he started to put it inside me, then withdrew, and I heard that he had quickly done something with the condom and immediately checked with my hand, the condom was there along the length. He said he just pulled it higher and I believed it, because he was losing erection. The condom was there, but he had already cut/tore off the very tip. No idea how he did this. With his teeth? But I'm sure he did that, because I usually remove condoms myself after the intercourse, and he quickly started to remove it himself, and before I approached. Then he passed it to me, there was obviously no cum, so I thought maybe he had pretended orgasm but it was much worse.
I had thought I was really good with condoms and stuff but it turns out we're never good enough. I mean how on earth can one notice the little hole at the end of it? I found a similar story that had happened to an escort in my country. There a client also cut the tip, and he put his cock out through this hole. It's possible to put it back in quickly if a girl wants to check.
I will now always stop in the middle of sex, say I need more lub, and inspect everything carefully.

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Re: Have just experienced stealthing and ejaculation inside
« Reply #5 on: 10 January 2025, 06:24:50 pm »
I now understand how victims of abuse are feeling. Not even one word of support, people only trying to show that it was my own fault.

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Re: Have just experienced stealthing and ejaculation inside
« Reply #6 on: 10 January 2025, 07:19:28 pm »
I now understand how victims of abuse are feeling. Not even one word of support, people only trying to show that it was my own fault.


It was not your fault at all, you did all the checks that normally keep you safe and that is all you can do.

He was the issue,  not you, he somehow damaged that condom (how is irrelevant, the fact he did it is the issue) he is the arse hole,  make sure you put a detailed client eye in for him and if you are feeling able speak to NUM, depending on where you are in the country there are also es ort support services, I know up north there is the Changing lives organisation, they have people you can talk this through with.

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Re: Have just experienced stealthing and ejaculation inside
« Reply #7 on: 10 January 2025, 08:28:22 pm »
Thank you very much.
I'm in the UK.
Yes, I have put a report on CE, and going to be checked for STD.
When I tell my friends about what has happened - the first reaction is:
Do you let them use their condoms? Do you let them put on/take of condoms?
No, I don't. I do all the stuff to keep me and my clients safe: I buy good condoms in 3 different sizes, I put them on and take off, and I often control with my hand - both, the ring and if the thing is still on the cock.
What scares me is that they still find the way to do it!
How to control the tip of the condom, I don't know.
Girls, be alert!

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« Reply #8 on: 10 January 2025, 09:13:30 pm »
I don't read any of the replies as blaming you - this is something he did deliberately and I would bet a large amount that you are not the first person he's done it to.

It was also done in a way to be difficult to spot: the aim wasn't to have his penis uncovered, but to end up with what happened.
'The Ian formerly known as SW5'. What they said: "Indispensable", "You are our best resource", and (hours later!) "I'm afraid that you're being made redundant..."

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Re: Have just experienced stealthing and ejaculation inside
« Reply #9 on: 11 January 2025, 09:36:25 am »
Hey, I'm really sorry if it sounded like I was blaming you. I really didn't mean it to sound that way.

I've had a few times when things didn't work out with the condom, and they came inside me.
It is awful and frightening - who knows what STDs these guys might carry?

 I do understand, and I am sorry for you.

Nevertheless I genuinely wonder how he did that.
I think my broken condom situations ... one or two might have been avoided with more lube.

And despite all my vigilance, I was caught out by one of those serial sneaky condom-removing guys even though I was super experienced... And I know he did this all the time because: 1. he didn't seem surprised, 2. he then gave me the line about not worrying he's had a vasectomy - jazz, that is not the problem! 3 - and this is the real one... I also worked in flats. About a year later he turned up and the other girl working with me told me she'd had the same happen to her and he was notorious for it.

So, really, not blaming you.

The thing is more and more women come into this these days being quite naive and one of the first things they might do is let the guy supply or put on the condoms. They need to learn not to do this and to be vigilant about them.

Others will read this thread and might learn something.

Big hugs.






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Re: Have just experienced stealthing and ejaculation inside
« Reply #10 on: 11 January 2025, 01:06:43 pm »
Thank you very much.
Yes, also some of my friends' immediate reaction was:
- don't you yse your own condoms?
- don't you put them on and take of yourself?
- don't you check during penetration?

I do! And I did during that meeting, apart from taking it off, I told him not to touch it but he quickly moved it and gave it to me, to my tissue.

I also use a lot of lube. I'm sure this wasn't a condom split by accident. It was a cut around the tip, with the tip not cut completely. And, when he removed it, he saw there was not one drop of cum. If he hadn't done it, he would be shocked. But just went away immediately, very quickly.

I'm also wondering how he did this. It took not more than 3 seconds (I heard the sound of condom). I got alerted at once, but he said he had needed to pull it up higher because he was losing his erection (he really was), and I checked with my hand immediately, it was there, so I also checked a few times again during the penetration, but obviously I didn't touch the tip.
So I don't think he had time to remove it and cut with his teeth. It looked like a scissors cut but the end of the tip still connected.

Could he replace the condom quickly? I don't know but I was using Pasante, they are kind of latex free, and when I checked, it was also latex free, so I think it was the same condom.

I read about a similar case in my country but there the guy used his own condoms. I don't let them use their condoms. Since I started using mine as an escort, they never break or slip off. When I was a civvy, and men used their own ones, they split and slipped often. I now think it might have not been accidental.

I'm also thinking how to prevent this happening. I think if you hear they are touching the condom, it's not enough to check it with your hand. Visual check is necessary. In general, be careful when in doggy.

I heard, there are closed groups on the internet, where men share new methods how to remove condoms. As well as how to get bareback sex.

Girls, be careful! It's not rude if you don't trust them. Even when you are with your back to them, listen and be aware of what's going on.
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